 So we're here with the Exalos here at SID Display Week, and who are you? Hi, I'm Christian Vélez, founder and CEO of Exalos. So what are we looking at here? Yeah, basically we have a demonstrator where we want to illustrate the advantage of our special light source called super luminescent diode, which is basically a speckle-free laser. So speckle-free lasers, because they have less coherent, and that's why you can see, for example, the advantage in this image, once you have a laser-based image where you have speckle, this granulation, and that's with our super luminescent diode, which is basically speckle-free. And this is this technology we have been developing the last 10 years. We have now green, that's the new light source. We have been having also red and blue. So with this RGB SLEDs, you can build a display projection system without speckle correction. So right now, when people make projectors, for example, with the laser light source, they have issues? Yeah, so they have to use the speckle, or modulate the laser, or use different kind of tricks to be able to get rid of the speckle. And this is an inherent speckle-free laser, and that's a big advantage for different projection applications. Big advantage? Yeah, so yeah, that's quite unique, because you combine the advantages of an LED, which is a broad spectra, with the advantages of the laser, which is very nice beam quality, and that allows new architectures, much more flexibility for different projection systems. What is this setup right here? Yeah, so basically we are illuminating, we have here the SLED and the laser coming out, which then go to a MEMS mirror, which then generates the image, and we do that three times. Here the laser and the SLED in blue, and here the SLED and the laser in red, and then illuminating again the MEMS, and that's how we generate the image. And then we can prove here, for example, in the blue, no speckle thanks to the SLED emission, and the reference is the laser with the speckle, and same for the red. So what kind of potential displace will be in projectors, but what else? Yeah, so the main application we are targeting is augmented reality. So there are different architectures which can profit from this concept of the supermuseum diode, because normally if you have a laser in a headset, where you have to get rid of the speckle, this will kill your form factor, and that's something with the SLED, something you don't have to, you can have a much compacted system basically. And other technologies for augmented reality displays use LEDs, but then you lose a lot of the light, so basically you are less efficient and you consume a lot of power, and that's why SLEDs can be an ideal light source for augmented reality applications. The other one is of course picoprojector, there you need a nice beam quality, but you don't want the speckle due to the laser coherence, and that's also the ideal light source for a picoprojector. So it's about high efficiency, power consumption is lower, the colors are better, brightness is higher? Colors are the same because we are fulfilling the RGB requirements, but it's basically, you combine the advantages of laser with LEDs and in that sense you have the ideal light source for a projection system. And GLP, L-COS? Yeah, that's the other application, today people are illuminating L-COS with LEDs. The big disadvantage of LEDs in that case is that they are non-polarized and then you lose 50% of the light with the L-COS. The big advantage of SLDs is they are highly polarized and so you win already 50% just by using SLD. And besides, because the SLDs have a very nice beam characteristics similar to a laser, you can make much compact architectures. So what's next? And how big is your company? Where are you based? Yeah, so we started 15 years ago, our main business has been infrared SLDs which we sell several ten thousands a year, but that's mainly for other applications. We have been developing now these new visible SLDs for consumer electronics. We are now sampling the red and the blue SLDs to different AR potential customers. And we are then hopefully by the end of the year qualifying the green so we can have an RGB light source and start the whole development. And so how's it going here, the SID display? Yeah, it's very good. We're very happy at the ISO and it's ideal platform. There's a lot of people? Yeah, it's a lot of people, very high level people, all the big high tech companies are coming here to try to spot something new, because one of the main requirements you need to fulfill to qualify to the ISO is that you are showing something new. And a real prototype? Yeah, and a demo. And basically every big company sending here their scouting folks trying to see what's new and what's the potential new cool technology they could use. So yeah, has been very busy and extremely good contacts. When do you think it's potentially going to be in consumer electronics products? Yeah, realistically, two to three years. We're still two to three years away. Until it's really... Done and everything? Yeah, of course, and then you need to scale up. But we have already some devices being tested with very good feedback. And so we are confident that in the next two to three years this will take off. And that means that everything will be higher quality? Higher quality, yeah. Quality or yeah. Better performance. And a form factor enabler, I will say, yes. Because that's one of the big hurdles today for the augmented reality that the glasses or heads are still very bulky. And the SLD could be one of the key components to resolve some of these issues.