 Hello and welcome to I don't even know what this will release, but You see sneaky freaky and sneaky rags and sneaky mumble-o have been Answering super chats in places you wouldn't expect In your kitchen right now. Go look. Yeah, you may notice to the right There is no one moving in that bill gray block. Well, yeah, that's gray, right? It's like a dark We're in we're in the void here alone Floating for eternity. Well, they got the comforting sounds of Marica in the background. So there's that but oh, yes You hear that and the void just uh That's a that's a happy song, but I feel like if you listen to it for a thousand years It would just become an omen of suffering. Yeah. Yeah, definitely Well, I guess even now right whenever you hear the blue shell accompanying it It's sort of an omen. It's like, you know, you compare it to like the stuff in Elden Ring or like Dark Souls music It's just like no, this is true. This is the void right here What you're listening to is The beginning of a video that goes over every super chat that was given in for I don't even know what the number of the e-fap was because I only wrote down that it was part of Falcon the Winter Soldier, so it's that episode. It was like 11 hours long and we went through the entire show Yeah It's actually one of the more popular episodes. I think people fucking hated that show Now it's like how many more Marvel shows we had in the interim like four I know right? It's every time It's like the coolest thing ever at the time people say but then give it like a few months Everybody stops caring There were people that were defending that you got to do better thing when it came out. I doubt they do It would be it would it would be very amusing if someone tried That's for sure Regardless, we're gonna read the messages you guys sent in one by one until they're all done Then you'll see that this thing will pop out at some point. You'll be like whoa so um, I Guess we'll get started This is in wait a minute This is probably in the wrong order actually because some of these are about the whole do better speech It's like let me scroll down Reverse order. Maybe that's the correct chronological one Well, you know what I'll try it and if things make sense, then we'll be all right, so first one What would you rather have immortality or invulnerability? Super slow eternal regen that will always ensure you come back in one way or another or complete immunity to all forms of damage But not death by age I think I'll take the first one I'm not I'm not sure I Immortality always feels like one of those things where it's like is that do you really want that? Are you sure? You know, I Always like jump to the absurd and extreme like everything gets destroyed But I'm just there flowing in space turnly dead basically a little bit No for doing that And I guess the second one well But also just think about like how much it will change your perspective on Like feels like human beings are very much like a lot of what our experience is about is framed through the lens that we are not Permanent I Wonder how much it would change you as a person to become basically immortal I just yeah, I think I would be enjoying how I can just survive anything in life and go on forever But every once in a while I'd be thinking like man What if the earth gets destroyed at some point, and I'm the only one left and And then and then what if the planet itself explodes because that'll happen eventually Death of the universe when all the stars Die and even the black holes slowly but surely radiate off through walking radiation all of their mass And you just in nothing forever. We talked about the void But if I had Mario Kart double-dash to play put until the end of time, I don't know if that'd be such a bad trade really Certainly could have been worse, you know, like I'll complete the game on all difficulties then mirror mode That'll take a little bit Do it all over again. Yep. Why the fuck not players every character imagine that Yeah, exactly great Yeah, I'm the hated one character so much even if you had an actual eternity to play it You just it was like I won't play that's what like if uh if you're playing smash brothers And you just refuse to play as like metanitis like it's not fair. It's not fair I'm a principal man. Okay, I'm not fair to myself I'm so principal that I'll do it when nobody's around literally nobody because it's the end of the universe Everyone's dead. I would also worry by the way about the eternal life one Basically like people finding out eventually. Oh Right would figure it out eventually. I would imagine fun enough More so than just governments trying to be like hey, how do you work and poking you in stuff? But also you being like maybe you should study me because I could probably help people if they can you can draw anything from Yeah, so obviously there might be some stipulations involved in this wizard deal The wizards like you can't tell anyone it's entirely magical people figure it out. That's your problem. That was your mistake like but yeah Yeah, I think to be safe. I would probably gun for the good strong life that ends at the normal ish time I think I'm on board with that. So, yeah I No one ever stopped to ask the verbal terrorists why they stood up to the top of it up to the top YouTubers you need to do better toxic brood also high rags rip and tear lol lol Hello to you So that's also a reference to the do better shit. I could like it. We could be at the end all the beginning I guess we'll find out is Falcon the witch soldier better than Thor 2 I can't remember much of Assassinate any characters. So I'm pretty sure like thoughts who is generic bad not like Abominable, but who knows I haven't seen it in a long time. Yeah But yeah, just quick guess would be that thought who is better. It's just boring. I guess Any plans to have Tharius unlimited on the podcast. He's a the bat woman enjoyer. I think yeah He is a bat woman enjoyer Chad bat woman enjoyer. I Wonder if it we might have ran out of time to do some kind of bat woman panel Maybe yeah, but you know, maybe something in the future Farewell to bat woman all our favorite memories. That would be cool. Actually if we could Get the fans of all the channels to sort of get their favorite moments Maybe send in sending timestamps and then get us all washed together and you know, I don't know That could be fun. I would pick mighty us reacting to when Exploded the thing in the remember the bridge scene episode 2. I think I was like, yeah Where I knew the show was special. I was like we're in Absolutely lost our shit Man, oh god, that's like almost nostalgic at this point. It's a simpler time Yeah, because also bat woman will be the blueprint It will be because we've come we'll end up covering more multi-v shows. I I hope I'd like This too. I like the format and I think we can get a lot of good discussion out of it and maybe cover some good ones Like we do a Hill House, you know and black black woman black woman as is now the case But bat woman will be the be progenitor of all of that. It'll be the one that proved that it could work my favorite I'm just as high molla. Hello Gotta go to work, but have a great day and two dollars. Thank you very much Appreciate it. I hope you had a good day and work that year ago Yeah, I hope your day is well, maybe he's got a different job All kinds of stuff It's sad that you know chrono was fired, but at least the van de men has finally stopped sucking dig new Disney's large throbbing rooster well specifically Mandalorian I guess Because a lot of people did have a lot of positive things to say about it But I think it's fallen apart now and to the point where if you ask them how they feel about it like even season one They'll be like, yeah, it was it was a We're still still being the controversy boys and being like no shit. It's terrible. It's awful open up your eyes What I see a lot now is people Using Mando as a comparison with Master Chief. This is how you do the character, right? I'm like stop it Mando shit You're right people are doing that Man Mando got it right with the helmet and you just like did that I don't even the fact that he kept it used dread Okay, if you have to use someone use dread Don't use Mando Mando didn't even get it right it broke its own rules like several times Yeah, I think we even said like we didn't want his helmet coming off in season one But it did yeah, and I never want to see his face. We should have kind of just lucky There's always gun for Having characters reacts to it at most you never actually see it. That's like Nice way to do it if you have to do it And you don't know no, you don't Yeah, funnily enough I'm likewise. I don't know if this will line up at all make any sense, but it was right on tights episode I was on and Mad Lauren came up and Jeremy was saying even with Um You know season two not being liked by many people stuff like season one was you know people saying different things about it And he was like I still remember when I got into a cold rags molar, and they just like Talking to me about episode and I was like episode four the ATSD one for yep And I think it was like 10 minutes. He went from saying like it was pretty fucking awesome, too Oh god, that was terrible. It's like yeah, cuz it was it was an episode It was that was an experience watching that too much stupid Yeah, it was really disappointing Good hope for that show Imagine that imagine the idea of like watching opening episodes or even one of a show I'm being like this kind of neat and then it being bad I wonder if that's happened recently Oh, I guess depending on when this episode comes out several years from now. Yeah Uh Hey, Disney's abominations a new one guys. You're the only ones who can high rags Hello Yeah, we'll do it. We done did it. I think hey guys, could you help me out? I want to get into PC gaming, but I don't know where to start. Do I buy or build? What's makes a good PC? Thanks Uh, you look I'd go for it You can buy one there. There are good pre-builds out there Just make sure you're getting a you're make sure you're getting a good one Start some tech channels for good pre-built recommendations and no doubt they can find you some Just be aware a lot of them are crappy You can build one. It's not super complicated at all. Um, like Lego for adults Kind of it's certainly doable The thing is I'll only have them in America But like there are just places where that will sell pc parts that if you just give them a full parts list They'll build it for you for like $20-50 Yeah, there's some services who do that. I I can't recall any off the top of my head But those services absolutely do exist Yeah, but just familiarize yourself with the parts and what they do Watch, you know channels that'll tell you about the parts and how they You know fit together both in terms of how they function and like physically Um and just look up builds within the price range that you're comfortable with like if you say pc under $1,000 you'll find so many articles that will just give you a parts list Yeah, there's all kinds of websites like pc part figure and stuff like that that will help you Set one up for yourself and get one ready Maybe the key is to just go to craigslist or look in the want ads or whatever it is that the yellow pages And see if there's someone local who just uh is kind of a tech guy who You know will come over teach you things Tell you what all the what all the parts do stuff like that A lot of people do that as a service because um, I'm in the building a new pc soon TM, uh, are you similar to that rags? I can't remember are you uh sort of yeah, I'm probably Because there was a point in time where I was totally thinking about I was definitely going to have a new pc by now and then things happened with prices and whatnot and You know covet and the silicon shortage and all that sort of stuff just hit it once um And now there's a whole new series of cards that's supposed to be getting announced slash released in quarter three of this year So I'm just going to wait for that But then after that yeah, I will be taking a look getting something new I'm happy that I spent a lot of money when I got mine because I built mine in 2017 and even now it's like I'm totally happy with it Um, I don't generally I tell people Yeah, I think it's better that way because when I built my first pc I didn't spend as much money and um I did have to like and this was kind of like before PlayStation 4 and xbox one came out. So then There's a little bit more pressure to like get more ram than I had gotten um Get a new gpu and yeah, it's it's it was better to just um In my case spend a bunch of money all at once to turn on future proof But I mean you can depending on what games you want to play you can it like if you're only going to be playing um If you're playing a lot of the popular games on pc a lot of the ones that are specifically designed to run on on um lower-end hardware like League of legends or csgo Valorant Overwatch like these are all games that you can play on an on like a mid Range pc even lower than that really if you want to like you don't need to spend A lot of money unless you want to be playing like the latest cutting-edge games at the highest um resolution frame rate and like graphical settings Just think about what type of games you want and then how much you're willing to spend and you'll be fine This keeps the resources out there Really when I was Pushing for my first pcs and stuff the resources back then so much worse than they are now like now Websites go for basically everything It's super blossom. Absolutely PC gaming is yeah, it's way much. It's way bigger a thing now than it was like a decade ago It's just a super friendly ecosystem to be in yeah for games. You got so many people who are Ready to help and so many resources Streaming cultures Well, when they stream people's builds, that's that's just really cool as an idea like yeah You can just watch them literally create your pc Yeah, hope Um The show would have ended so many times if bucky and sam carry guns like they usually do Yeah, bucky not having a gun is uh because he normally does carry one I was about to say I went to falcon first. I was like, oh, yeah Because he has this too little like And he does oozzy things doesn't he usually but he only he only decides to kill people in that opening action scene when he's fighting The flag smashes. He just decides to go for normally super soldiers are super threatening if you don't have a gun Yeah, especially when you are just a normal guy like which he is he's a normal dude Yeah Very true I really want to hear flb breakwind loudly Okay FLB Hmm Oh that is Breakwind loudly I really want to hear you release a wet messy blast. I don't think this is too much to ask, please I don't know who FLB is Fat Fat loud But the point is that stuff doesn't get picked up by our microphones We have A software that That will not allow for The those noises to come across the microphone. There's nothing we can do it's out of our hands technology has limited us limited us in this way Yeah It can't be done unfortunately Bad isn't it It really is you'll have to just imagine it in your head you'll have to sit at home Close your eyes just lay in bed just think Wonder what I want to what a freaky first sounds the most freaky as they want is it? Oh, I just had to pick someone I didn't pick one of the three I couldn't pick myself Or I'm all right, so I had to I can't say that I've frequently decided to whip out my phone and start recording my farts, but We'll let this guy know if you do You should whip out matches instead um, I mean Well, definitely was like, um Yeah, I guess yeah, I'm not you know what no That was a journey Yeah All right, um Hi rags Hi When I was little I had a JJ the jet plane themed birthday party even the cake had JJ on it picture that in your head Wow It's never been another little cake like this That's that's nice Yeah Part of the theme song It's so much love of the sky like this. Mm-hmm when you're the oldest of four. Mm-hmm the things you absorb So a dceu fan in the wild using literally every argument you refuted Are you superman in man of steel and praising the literary depth of justice league? It was astonishing Uh, I must have been painful knowing what you know Kind of nuts. Yeah like uh the world of delving into Snyder's vision Like the amount of work fans do to make it seem like The greatest films of all time for writing. This is the You just don't expect it when you watch them because they're so horribly bad Yeah, it's true Uh destroy this terrible show long man The show is the biggest punch in the face, especially if you're a fan of the civil civil war. Yeah, uh I like how it you all of them have been You know, it's like it's not your wow and the guy who made falcon with the soldier The guy who composed for it is the same one who did civil war, but you know what I mean Yeah, um Unlike all of the movies have ignored the accords Get past I don't exist anymore as far as I can tell. Yeah, they just might have all never happened They just can't get away No one cares about everything anymore in that world Hi rags Hello to you. I'm ubes and gang. Hello. Oh, yeah, this is before for you would even have been a host, right? Oh, wow, we're taking it old school I just published my first video ever responding to plinkett's review of the prequels I couldn't have made it without you guys for inspiration. So thank you Good stuff. Well, that's great. I hope the media I guess in the intervening year Maybe that's uh, maybe there's a bit of traction on that who knows Yeah, I hope you had fun and enjoyed yourself We eventually uh, covered his revenge of the sith video, didn't we? We did Yes, we did That went interestingly Yeah It was uh, it's because such a strange. It's like it's hard for people to take this a side of sorts. I don't know Do I side with the prequels my love or do I side with the plinkett my other love or do I side with the fappings? I also love it. It's a kind of maybe only to me that I have to trust myself. There's no one else Yeah Everyone just lets me down I think our conclusion was he makes good points bad points and it's funny Yes, it was an entertaining video Definitely entertaining, but he was a mixed bag. I wonder how much of that it Goes on today. I wonder if he was to if he was to remake that video Uh, how it would change Well, you gotta wonder how anything changes in the matter now that we have the trilogy that generally is considered to be Like worse or or at the very least terrible Yeah I think it's safe to say it's considered worse Uh, I guess the problem is I'm not sure like broadly publicly. I think a lot of people like the prequels more But I don't I don't know like if there's perceived as being worse. It's hard to say Yeah, people fight over that a lot. They're like, uh, obviously everyone still thinks they're garbage and some people like, no, they don't Oh, no, no, they're bad. If a name ends with s does the apostrophe come before after it when it comes to making it a possessive? God, it's after And it's generally after Because you don't want to actually sort of like change the name itself by inserting an apostrophe into it I think I think it's just you you can't that is the name. So like if somebody's name is uh Jones Uh, Jones's will just be like j or n e s and then apostrophe. That's how it works with s So like like me it is r a g s A posh it would be all right. Yeah, like if it was something that belonged to you would be r a g s and then uh apostrophe That's that is correct dramatically or I guess punctual punctual punctuationally A lot of people are not grammar Yeah, a lot of people give the r a g apostrophe s they change my Yeah, because your name is not rag. It is rag. It's not right. It's right It is rag So remember that from now on those of you who write rag apostrophe s apostrophe s and and so on and so forth You have no excuse now. I guess unless you didn't listen to this e-fap whenever this comes out No, you don't have an excuse you learn that you everyone learned that in school. Everybody does learn that in school actually, yeah Evening lads and ladies here's some money that I would have wasted on a disney plus subscription if it wasn't for you guys Hope you're all keeping well. I'll rags kick j etc etc Thank you. And uh, yeah, I realize that we operate as a form of MCU watch, you know for other people who are like, yeah, well I guess unless you wanted us to talk about hawkeye That's the only one we've missed so far, right? Yeah, that is the only one that we've missed Yeah, we need to do it. I'm not feeling particularly compelled to check to see what I missed out on No So I suppose there is a funny element of like it could be the best one. It could possibly yeah lower stakes Because that's our loss I mean, I can't imagine it being a big loss Um, holy ham sandwich. I enjoy nothing except e-fap Oh That's not the stuff in the world Hopefully you enjoy some other stuff Yeah, I mean we we like that you like us But you could like other things too. There's a lot of joy in the world to be had don't limit yourself. Mm-hmm. Yeah Uh, this just has a labor of hate all right Have you heard of this game called world of horror? It's a horror rpg where you investigate five mysteries so you can fight an old god and during the investigations You run into rando horror scenarios Oh I have yeah, I've not heard of it. Absolutely unfamiliar Do not know Um I always watch the moolah cut which is a 1.5 times and it's what I'm used to One time sounds drunk and wasted laugh mask. I'm just doing this to say that I'll catch it later Cheers. Have fun. Love you guys The moolah cut I'm drunk when we're not sped up. I'm like That is well if we're drunk then yes, but that rarely happens. Yeah, we haven't done that in a while You do some more gothic phone streams, I guess I mean, I'm one of them soon enough for so many other things to do Yeah, we're keeping busy I mean this what we're doing now is proof of that. Yeah Uh Funny how the only person in the show that said a black man can't be cap is Isaiah Also, if the nurse faked his death won't they still want his body? I can't remember what the justification was for that. Did she say like they gave in a fake one or something? I can't Explain it away If if at all in a tiny casual throwaway line that definitely holds up I would have thought that if you go into those lengths you probably wouldn't want to be in america anymore, right? Probably you might find you then you're going straight back. I assume Might want to hide in like Well Anywhere else I guess I guess anywhere else would be preferable, but I mean like oxygen chain or something Yeah Yeah, it's I remember there being problems with the story. Anyway, it's all fucking invented on top of everything else because That was the thing like inventing another Captain america that no one ever heard of that did missions. It's like, uh, that's really frustrating But it's like I guess it's nothing compared to The egyptian and greek gods have been here the whole time by the way, and you're like, oh Yeah, nothing compared to kang that's for sure People don't understand how much kang just fundamentally broke everything. Likey the whole the whole show Just it's the most significant piece of mcu content, but you wouldn't know it based on how much people talk about it Loki saw his whole life in a film Of course. He's now a good person It's a changed man. Yeah um Do better e-fap isn't that end speech inspiring I felt inspired Embarrassing to do something. I don't know what but something to do to do better just to do better senator Only they wrote that Yeah, I know nobody and ever and it went through multiple people and that it was on set and I guess I don't know people like Nobody there was like You know just laughed with the line Delivered the lines and you didn't think you know, damn this is uh Huh It's just like what is this message do better like thanks, bro Remember how people were saying that it was like profound that it was a really profound speech Because like it's it's not even about what it's about. It's just it's completely void of any substance whatsoever Just do better. I mean, how could you ever raise your kid wrong or fail to run a country? Just do better Well, that's part of the problem with the scene. It's not even just him saying that it's in response to them explaining How complicated this all is and how they're trying to make things better There was a part where it's like you could reach all the borders like that. It's like no, no No, you really You really really really hard Don't they say like with a phone call you can get a million dollars to some awesome shit. I don't know It's such a this is what I mean It's perfect in a way. It's like a child's view of how Government how to fit the world. Yeah, like you can change borders You can print money and then just have the money to do whatever you want. It's like Look, all right, and there's anybody to blame. It's your team for just snapping everybody back Like without doing anything to fix any of the problems Like this is your fault. Well, it's not falcon's fault. I guess because he wasn't around when the team came up with the plan But I mean, yeah Ugh Um, I gave after I gave up on this show after two episodes. I have a question What is you guys's favorite and least favorite war movies? Uh, my favorite is saving private ryan as is mine You have a favorite ryan. I don't My friend might be 1917. I thought you were gonna say that Uh, it's a good choice. It's a bad choice. Yeah, we need more world war one stuff Well, I mean that's uh least favorite My least favorite world is it war movie they said least favorite war movie. Yeah Resident evil the final chapter because there was supposed to be a big ass fucking war at the beginning And they skipped that shit and everyone disappeared and I have been forever disappointed by that Yeah, I don't see ruby rose get shredded by a big propeller blade I count for nothing To be fair to be fair that movie was bonkers Yeah, really that's an evil movie was bonkers. I think it was a little bit bonkers I don't have to agree with that My least favorite war movie. I don't know what about the tomorrow war Does that count because if it does it has war in the title It's certainly a contender for my least favorite woman. Yeah, I would happily can see this. That's one of the worst movies I've ever seen It is one of the most movies I've ever seen I feel like I love how that film disappeared as quickly as it came to everybody's talking about it now It's like nobody talks about it. That's an e-fat movies. It's been recorded It's an e-fat movies. I know I had to watch it twice rags, and I had to watch it twice for the uh the e-fat movie covered it Well, that led to the creation of one of the funniest fucking things that's ever happened on our show being Filmed to his commentary, so Yes Oh god Yeah, give me a second. I used to Yeah, I uh, I don't really have many things in my head to think of for like Like worst war movies. Yeah. Yeah, it's There are war movies. I don't like the movie fury. I kind of don't I'm not super happy with that film Um, I was fine with it, but I don't I don't recommend it I know the one of the uh, the chief complaints about that film is historical inaccuracy because there's there's this battle where it's like the three tank There's four american tanks go up against a tiger Um, and like everything about it doesn't make any sense They take out the uh, they take out the last tank in the convoy instead of the lead tank The lead tank is the one they'd want to take out first because it actually has a um It has a cannon that is capable of penetrating the armor of a tiger as opposed to the other two that it attacks It charges towards them Instead of staying in its its stationary position where it would be much safer Um, it just doesn't shoot as fast as um as the as fury does So that's no reasonable if I could just so that's interesting because when you when you open that with historical accuracy complaints I was preparing to say How does that compare with something like hang on? Hang on I was preparing to say like how does that compare with something like the patriot with everything that we've discussed But what you're describing I would argue isn't even about historical accuracy. It's just uh incompetence Yeah, because um These are things that exist in this world that have a utility and nobody is eight behaving or using the tactics that they would Um, and it's the it's the reason why the good guys survive basically well Not forever, right? Not forever, but um, and then also like that film is um I know that because I've seen deleted scenes for that film I think if they had kept the deleted scenes that film would be better Um, a lot of the deleted scenes actually give you more character stuff and I guess there's just things that are less of a preference for me like um I uh, I tend to prefer Sort of easing back on music in a lot of war films. Um Not not using uh, not too much like score Maybe maybe that is a saving pro because saving pro but Ryan's so much of it is diagetic Like um music choices are very limited and then in 1917 they also even though that has a pretty persistent soundtrack It's a very unique soundtrack Um, and when they need to pull it back they will support back to oh man The night window the song for the when um when he wakes up and he's in the god that was such an amazing sequence I love it It's so good. I really like that film 1917 is cool I already know anybody who didn't like it, right? Uh why am I still didn't like it that much, right? Did he give it a Lower or higher rate and I can't remember. I think I think you still gave it a positive rating But I think the sentiment was he wasn't that impressed with it like technically and in terms of what it was doing narratively Well, there you go. Uh So I was just thinking about was um I guess it doesn't it doesn't work as well because Three of us the three of us don't have this perspective But you know when it comes to something like the patriot and um one of the biggest complaints is how evil the english are in that Which isn't at all representative Had they been that evil Which that was just embedded in history Nobody would be making that argument, right? Presumably people rarely say they made the nazis look too evil Right and so therefore it isn't about it go get into cartoon levels or anything Well, I think it's more so just it feels disrespectful, right? Yeah, I think there's a perspective. I think it's partly rooted in the the true fact that people Will develop a perspective on history based on media that may well not be true people just do that um People won't necessarily watch documentaries or read books about history A lot of people's opinions and perspectives on world war two are probably more so colored by the films They've watched than what they've learned at school about world war two um, yeah I mean because uh because a common one in uh, like we in australia We much more look at world war one than two because world war one was super important for australia's national identity Gallipoli and whatnot and um, there is a common perception that it's in part because of the film gallipoli Which I really like that film the like british officers were completely Like they were the british were like very much They just didn't care about australians. They didn't care. We were fodder and we got thrown in and that's just not true Like that perception sort of came about but I mean british soldiers were absolutely and like pretty much the same position as australian soldiers in world war one um But but it's a perception that sort of exists because of a lot of uh films Um, and a lot of people think that that's true. It's just I think um It's the reason why someone look at the patriot and get like annoyed because there's probably some people who watch that film We're like wow the british wow Like and it's like it's just not it's just not what happened in reality um, I think I categorize that in the same way as I do for um, you know like The the the comic book sort of respect the source stuff. It's like it just becomes a moral argument to me, which isn't invalid It doesn't affect the storytelling I don't think it can because if we do then we have to start saying in glorious bastards. It's a bad film and I think that's like no, thanks um Yeah, it's usually the comparison right like because Yeah, um, well one of the ones I tend to like to bring up is hillhouse because the fact that if we were there when he was scripting it all and we were like dude, you're using the uh the The title the ip of something that has a fan base and you're gonna trick them entirely because it's not gonna be about The book at all Don't you think that's a little lame and if he was just like, you know, if he was just completely honest and said I I want to tell my story Well, yeah, I think uh, I think it's the conversation that's worth having about you know, um, respect for History respect for the source material. I just think it's a different discussion It's important not to conflate them. Well, and I think people would listen to this and be like what the fuck How can you compare respecting a source material like at some fictional book compared to respecting history? and uh, um Yeah, I guess the thing is is that it's I guess all I would say to that is the reality is the further back you go The more you're okay with it I think the reason why world war 2 is very touchy is because it's like one of the most significant events in human history It's quite recent a lot of people who are alive There are plenty of people who are alive today who experienced it So there's like an element there of like, oh Whereas if you if you were like doing, I don't know the battle of Hastings and you went super historically inaccurate I don't know that people would care as much about that Um, who was the battle of Hastings is also super significant in history Who's the the battle for independence, right? Like is what would it be considered? Uh Uh the patriot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so more independent if um Well, because it's we already have a comparison. It's kind of funny that uh brave heart just doesn't have the same reputation and yet it's no it doesn't like almost as if not worse Uh historical inaccuracy than patriot. I'm not even sure which one beats out the other. Um, yeah Because Yeah, because I just I just sort of just like the luck of the draw And I guess that's the only frustration that I end up getting it's just like I just wanted to talk about it though from like a storytelling point of view Well, yeah, I think um, I think it's just a matter of uh, it is there an expectation that we have that um that stories That are about historical offense ought to be historically accurate. It's like, I don't know maybe Um, I guess I would always express a preference for that personally Um, I like history and I like it. There's something that I find really um interesting about watching A film that I can sit there and really feel like damn I can imagine like the conversations played out this way and the events played out this way There's something really cool about that Um and interesting and I it's just a personal preference I have but at the same time it's like I really like and glorious bastards. I really enjoy that film Um, and that's not even trying to be accurate to what happened I mean talking about favorite war movies if they even count you would you'd be up there That would be high up on the list exactly But it's yeah, it's an interesting conversation to have that's for sure Yeah, how much that is a question. Yeah, well can writing be good and disrespectful? Not sure that is a conversation, isn't it? Yeah, I think so Yeah, I think so because it's just like I don't think I categorize them quite the same And yeah, I definitely talk about being disrespected like Well, it's it's worth I mean especially right halo, you know the adaptation argument still stands Even as its own thing it can totally be good But like can't lie it's it's always going to annoy me when something that I like That I think is really rich ground for adaptation. Just get squandered That's a totally valid sort of reaction to have it's just important not to conflate the two. Yeah It's it's just helpful that halo is a terrible show and a bad adaptation Makes it nice and easy double whammy mm-hmm Um, I'm surprised you guys didn't mention that walla had information on all the justice league members But decided to use mentally unstable criminals only two of which have superpowers Uh Yeah, do we know what information she had does she know they're at real identities or she just know their powers Uh, I think that she would probably know their powers. I don't know about their real world identities, right? Like does she Or did didn't she have a file? Did she have a file on like flash and stuff or wasn't that the file? I can't remember what the file said, um She gave it to uh bruce, right and then bruce was using it to to find the justice league So she must have had some information on them Well, no, yeah, that's the thing. I couldn't remember what information it is exactly, uh, if it's Information that it's just it just gives you a full rundown of them as where they exist and what they're doing Then yeah, I guess, um, you should have contacted them well before doing, uh suicide squad um Well, I guess it's just a matter of with the suicide squad. Yeah, like at least they say leave it to us or whatever I think sorry. I can't remember I really can't remember if that was at the beginning of the end. Was that the end of suicide squad? I think it was at the end because that was like your little stinger for ah, he's the justice league's getting together because I suppose I can't believe I'm saying this but I suppose that you could argue that um All are once people who are will listen to every single thing she says and she can just kill them at a whim Right, which is not something she can really do with like one the woman of flash no I guess the thing is is that the suicide squad as a squad has a much better composition in terms of This is a team that I can imagine having a lot of utility to use because like on In the first film, it's like who's really that useful. It's like ldr. Blow Dead shots a really good shot. So I guess he's kind of worthwhile to keep around um That's it really kill a croc maybe Holy queen has a baseball bat. She does have a baseball bat. That's true That is very awesome. And I love her as a character. She's so amazing. I love harley quinn. She's so Wow Lying you're lying right now. You're lying great. I know so much about her. I know so much about her after three movies Three that is three movies. Yeah. He is three movies gone I mean, you know being genuine all we've learned is that she's a girl that's been broken by experiences with a joker That's about it being as good faith as possible Okay And she absolutely hates any damage coming to children Yeah, and that's about it Uh Yeah, I don't know. Um It could just be that you explain it away through walla being kind of a crazy asshole She just described batman by the way when you were describing harley quinn Someone who whose experience was changed After the joker and they hate it when uh, hold to be fair. I said a girl who was broken by the joker Don't really think Ignoring the girl part. I don't even think that you'd say batman was broken by the joker. I guess if that's what you said Uh, it was close or something um Val axe antioxidant cocoa fusion If you like cocoa flavor is a good drink I rags and do you love good rat? I love good rat rats are great I'm a big fan of rat Um, and then they said rat he molza plaziz Mumbles very loudly You're you're mollar plushy mumbles loudly. Uh, oh it just mumbles in the night. Oh, he's got opinions. I don't know We're just trying to share Maybe he's checking out some movies. He hadn't seen before on your shelf and he's like, uh, well plot summary sounds terrible You see the plush on a phone You need to keep your plush on a little stand in your room That is like it rests. It's like ashes on this stand And they're the ashes of enemies that you've killed I know that reference Because the film's really good You do Oh, do I oh, yeah, what was it? Wait, what's the quote again? not quote Well, maybe once you say Oh, what I I thought you were talking about a quote. I was referring to this is from a video moller has done What's interesting is I refer to moller's video and not the thing that The video is based around because I don't think I think my video is the most attention that has gotten as a piece of information Because I think most people just would have ignored it. Oh, yeah But what do you really think about it? It's like wow that is stupid That's the it's the ashes of his enemies for any of that I love Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah Why would you do that? Why would you write that? Oh my god, it's so Maybe in the storm troopers whose job it was to go out there and find all the people kylo killed Bring them back and then incinerate them and then Empty them into the bin where he leaps his helmet Yeah, imagine being that guy. It's like all of that had to happen to get a thing of ashes for all the people you killed You can picture snoky and like wait why and he's like uh I think it intimidates my victims like I don't think it intimidates your victims. You're dead Well, the nobody's gonna see this Oh People like ray see it right and that's that's what I bring up I was like, well, what's the point if you don't even tell her and I'm pretty sure she'd find it funny like it's absurd Probably would undoubtedly if I was in her place, I'd be like really Is that is that are you being serious? These are the ashes of my enemies and you're like, what are you what? What are the like all of them or do you have to change them? Why do you put your helmet in there? That's gross Yeah, that is kind of gross. Also, that explains why it's so goddamn dry in here You know what moist ashes Uh Kind of matches kylo right in a way though, doesn't it? It does Impotent just what we thought out. It really conceived edgy character um This time catching a live show got hooked a few months ago, and I am attempting to catch up I'm currently on episode 52. I adore the show and all of you lovely massifs I dream of being on eFap one day high rags Oh, hello. I'm sure you will have catched up on uh Catched up. Fuck me. I'm sure you will have caught up on uh the whole show in the uh In the time between that message and now maybe It's interesting to think about, you know, I wonder if they're still a fan I wonder if they're watching all the episodes or if maybe they have moved on in the world Because you know, there's only so much eFap one can take before they explode In a positive way Oh, I was about to say I wouldn't want that to be interpreted negatively one exploding Um, but yeah, good to hear Carly is not a terrorist just because they have a sad backstory does not excuse their actions By that logic then Zemo is not a terror. I'm not interested in fucking that's stupid part of the Show whereas like That would shouldn't it wasn't it like falcon who's like stopped calling it that is not true when it's totally fucking true It's so insane using violence to advance a political goal But you couldn't be more of a terrorist Yeah Like these words exist in order to categorize you correctly But also to let everyone know what we're dealing with quickly Which is exactly what you are if you didn't want that label you probably should have avoided committing to those actions falling up People who you tied up because it's the only thing they understand people you've already successfully robbed Remember that she did that and I remember correctly Part of it at least from falcons POV is to do with the fact that um It's like It's a way of like not listening to her or whatever. It's like we can't be using that works It'll you're ignoring the fact that there's a girl there who like has blah blah and just like Can you say this no, it's every word that categorizes the kind of crime you're committing or Should we just not call anybody anything? They're not called someone a superhero in case it means that we ignore their uh Light or something. I don't know like Something because you make the choice to ignore important information. Like I don't know that sounds more like a u-problem than anything insane man, like You know someone said a fucking psychopathic supervillain robot is trying to destroy the world like hey Ultron has you know A motivation and you need to hear it out. It's got feelings. I'm sure he does have a motivation. I don't care Oh, that's great, uh Brown table said that sexual harassment. I don't know what they're referring to Except sexual harassment, of course. We did say that No way. There's too much substance in the tweet. Oh, this could be um when we were looking at the um, it was either the tweet or the correction tweet because um It was like something really harsh brown table said but then uh It was I think I said like there's still a chance. This is fake and then he actually put a tweet saying it was fake All right, right. Yeah. Yeah, I remember that Um bt said pretentious racist get back here mohler bt Oh brown table All right, I thought you were talking about bt from titanfall to fall Oh, man, whenever we get to titanfall three Nope It's up to apparently it's up to respawn. Yeah, it's pretty much Yeah, respawn has a high level of autonomy within ea by the sounds of it. Um This is it's something I've I've learned because I was reading I've been rewatching a bunch of the old destiny vid ox and stuff apparently within because PlayStation or sony acquired uh Bungie but bungie is still like basically independent. They're a subsidiary But they get a lot of autonomy in terms of what they do as a company And all of that stuff is still multi-platform going forward Um, it's just yeah, it's a little more complicated than that sometimes with studio structures and and whatnot um Because people forget like a lot of these studios have their own board. They have a ceo like a c Co they've they've got like an internal management structure that will be able to make decisions um It's the same with like bio where right bio where got given five years of pre-production on anthem and then Yeah, we're like right. So what do you got for us after five years of money? And there's not a lot in it shit Yeah And that's what I mean. It's like, you know to be sympathetic towards the position of ea But like yeah, I don't know about like a few millions of dollars where I managed to do the impossible They made me feel sympathy for electronic arts. Yeah um This is stop doing stop tearing down video essays just because they worked hard on it Then stop tearing down bad movies because of the same reason double standards take my hand exactly You you just you can't You can't be on the internet making videos criticizing films that have worked on by hundreds of people over the course of years Like a pure just creative expression I mean, of course with like minus three dollars, but like it's creative expression and then get upset when you get criticized for what you've made You've got to be you've got to be able to take it I mean and also it's just it's the internet like I don't like you're always going to get criticism Yeah, I was gonna say even if it were invalid unethical and unreasonable and even banable you'd still have it happening So it would just be general good advice in any case like you prepare it Take it on the chin. Just keep working. Keep keep at it. Keep uh trying to get better at your craft Marvel's writing has gotten so bass-acquards that they make the hero's villainous and the villain's more complex and interesting Boss-acquards well Walker and Zemo came out looking the best Uh in that show, but look at the others like We'll see with moon night and People cult leader man um I have a feeling that We're getting your standard. I worship arm it because arm it will make a better world and arm is just gonna kill everyone It's like, yeah Yeah, um What else we got uh kang. He was terrible Like one of the worst Agatha was horrendously bad. Yeah The villain like really no, what did she do? I got the ol along. She didn't do anything wonder created the hacks like what? odds So what else is there? Um, I guess no way home, but With no way home is like the heroes and villains are both, you know So it's just no way home really is an anomaly. Well, I guess shang chi, right? Like shang chi is a hero. He's not like He he is a good guy. He's just not a very interesting good guy And his dad is a bad guy, but he's not a particularly interesting bad guy So like in a certain sense shang chi kind of is doing all right Comments everything else, you know Yeah, I don't think the pattern is quite as strong enough to make the claim but um, you know In uh, some of the stuff for sure where it's like some references You just got it backwards. You forgot who the good guys and the bad guys are remember Cap said if they're shooting at you, they're bad. All right It's not that hard to figure out who the good guys and the bad guys should be Um, oh jay long bone, please break wind loudly on stream This guy again apparently apparently this Thing that he wants that's a bit weird, but uh, all right. I mean, you know, the guy knows what he wants. I guess Between ryan and zack. I'd take ryan because at least he'd give my great BB. Oh breaking bad episodes even if he didn't write it. What about you guy? We've had that question a couple times Uh, or jay-jay throwing in as well, but just like Give them your We make it even more of a like like your personally written script and one of those two gets full control over adapting into a movie Who are you picking? So the choice jay-jay back Snyder or ryan johnson Uh, I probably ryan's probably gonna make me more money No, jay-jay is probably gonna make you more money. Oh, it's just between those two. Yeah Yeah, ryan johnson will make me more. I yeah, you know what? I think I'd go for ryan johnson Maybe there'll be something that's interesting that comes out of it Yeah, maybe it maybe it will be interesting. Maybe it will actually work out like maybe yeah, I don't know I mean, I hope ryan's work than zacks is what you're saying. Yeah Yeah, I think I actually do yeah I think I think at the very least it would be a more interesting film even if I really didn't like it I think I I made me for the same. Um I I I it's just my it's certainly a gut feeling of like donko near snider weird things happen Really weird things Molar, I'm in wales right now for work. It's sunday and all the pubs are closed. What why don't you guys like money? I'll cod if lovely place. It's chill with a few hot bitties too Yeah, I mean, but uh Oh sunday and all the pubs are closed. I wonder if that was because of this what we would be in covid times of this Oh, yeah, this would have been like april, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah, probably it um He didn't when they treat the shield as if it's what makes you cap and notice how they change the end title from falcon to cap But bucky's still into soldier. Yep. Yeah, that was stupid. I don't know why they didn't they said they didn't think people would understand Like it's it doesn't betray the whole thing that they're both Adopting new mantles and moving into a new status in the world. But like the way people don't understand free but I I I mean, we've heard him called the white wolf in like multiple things at this point I mean, that's what tachala called him He called himself that in the show He's not the winter soldier anymore. He's got the codes out of his head It makes a narrative sense to call him the white wolf which was done in just like a flashback scene Yeah, oh, yeah, that was great The acting was great overall to me the acting was great. The acting's been pretty consistently great marvel stuff lately Shame in the material Um, I'm not even a movie or writing fan I watch e-fab because I love the way you guys analyze things with logic and objectivity Something which is very rare for any topic these days. Hey Just trying to remove them biases I Seems like Conversations can get very stream. I I catch myself saying streamline because I was ended up being longer than like anyone else is But I suppose that is still streamlined In a sense because there's not really confusion as to what it's a common vocabulary really that's that's like the whole thing We know we know what everybody's trying to say because we have the same sort of underlying metrics yeah Happy weekend long man thoughts on the recent model combat movie The originals and just general thoughts on bad video game movies or if they could have worked I suppose it's kind of funny to answer now a year later We now you now know what we think about both of those films Yeah, I suppose um, wait, did that happen within the last year? I thought it was older than that to be honest with you Um, I think mortal combat the the new mortal combat came out Last year like in april or something. So this probably would have been after this question was asked Well, um I mean I'll I'll give a quick thing and then if you guys want to add anything. Um, just the originals Flash original because we watched that first one, uh Pretty cringe but enjoyable Super campy but a clunky, but I don't know. There's some funny as fuck stuff in it And some of the things you can understand and respect I suppose What what movie sorry all combat the new one was like much more traditionally consumable as a movie And looks way better because obviously it does uh in terms of special effects Uh, but still baffling choices for story and character though I feel like k no alone in the new one was enough to carry me through Like more than the original I think I like more than the original I think so too There is yeah, I think so too the first one In a way the second is more It's weird because the second is almost so it's almost more disappointing Because you expect that it tries to do more and it was given, you know a lot of Clearly a lot of attention I think they were still a little too afraid to uh to fully embrace the games That's why we have this new character that gets added in instead of just having it be Johnny Cage Um, and then this weird like power thing that they established instead of just having it fully like immersed in the mortal combat world as we know it, you know But maybe the second one will be more like that because I got such good feedback on times when we get to the game is more I feel like that used to be a thing where you'd be like they will Create this first one again, but correct mistakes, right? And it's like why would we expect that instead of it just being strictly worse than the first one, right? Like I don't know because that's that why they wouldn't do that. Would they be like Back and take it on board and try to implement it. I guess that's just a reasonable expectation You know if you cover they should be like few quick decisions get rid of main character man He sucks focus fucking wig bring him back. K. No. I don't care how you do it. He's coming back Back. Yeah, I'm interact with Johnny Cage as if it matters. Goro also didn't die. You simply killed a fucking weird demon that wasn't Goro Make the new Goro beat the fuck out of everybody and don't even kill him in this movie kill him in the next one um Yeah, just just simple stuff man like And then just work on dialogue this entertaining and engaging and have a very simple plot that ties it all together. That's all you got to do Yeah Because some of the action in that was badass Yeah, like when uh, when kano ripped out reptiles, huh? That was cool I think what we saw that was pretty hard. We might actually have some fun here I'm really front loaded his competence there. Oh, well pretty much. Yeah. Um, but Zero that was cool Except when the the protagonist man got involved. It's like no. No. Yeah. I kept ruining it I was like scorpion sub zero. That's it I such baffling decisions for Game fans who are clearly like you're appealing to game fans. Just give them what they want Which is a full fight between scorpion sub zero than a fatality. They're familiar with that's easy Why would you want generic bad there doing generic things? Anybody there haven't been like johnny cage somebody who's like an interesting pov, you know, yeah You should have just had johnny cage that would have been way better if he was our protagonist and you give him like A personal beef with someone and johnny cage has got to fight that person And sub zero is defending him scorpion's like let me take him You know that sort of scenario and then you got two boss fights at once one for the game fans one for the story Yeah And I mean, you know, if you're gonna have like melena in there, why the hell wouldn't she have katana be in there and fight melena? Why would you have it be sonya? Put sonya up like I don't get it Like sonya against kano that that makes sense as a parent Why would we have katana in there had cabal in there as well? And he's like really fucking cool. You just get sort of killed and you're like, oh Yeah, that's like, I guess we're not going to see him in the next film. That sucks Oh, it's such a strange way of doing it all. Um Because they they they got it with some stuff fucked it up with other stuff. That's how it was. Yeah Um, so yeah, that covers who knows. Yeah That's just a while while you were wrapping up that I just noticed this Yeah, he's been arrested again So like that's probably him right like he's out As remilla, I don't know what we're gonna find out eventually as a result of all this but How do you get arrested again, dude? Especially when he was not hit people. It's so easy. Imagine being his agent right now Oh, yeah, like you are isra. I specifically told you not to hit random hawaiians What are you doing as we remember? Well, I got out of prison to die back in Jail, whatever is where you promised you wouldn't punch more hawaiians and here we are you punched another hawaiians This is gonna be super old by the time we get hit this this goes out, but yeah There we go. We just gave this recording He punched the guy Because of my head. He just punched a random person for no reason He punched the guy and then he turned around and he just started running That goofy really slow run from justice league But he's just running at normal speed for everyone else. In fact slower than normal, but he doesn't know yet Then he goes Then the police just walk up and Cuff him Like how'd you catch me? I'm the flash He's very drunk in this scenario then he's very no totally Totally lucid This is just how he is. He's just delusional. He thinks that he is the flash All the sniderverse people kept sending him emails and telling him that he was the flash And so it got to his head and then he snapped Now he just thinks he's a really shitty flash who can't Punch someone and get away with it Because he's too slow well Um, I guess the third part of that question was thoughts on video game adaptation movies and if they can work Um, sure they can work. Of course, I can especially when you have you when you're adapting video games I have very good stories and good characters But yeah, there's there's no reason why this is exactly the same as adapting box That same difference broadly um Well, that I was gonna bring out as a if we got a sliding scale here of um Faithfulness and quality of writing it can just go all over the place Like literally pick a part on that board and it can go there. It doesn't really There's no Reason why like if bio shock one got turned into a season of tv If someone said like it can't work bio shock was built as a game. It's like bullshit that can work Yeah, there's a lot of events that yeah bio shock would make a very good season of tv Just needs someone who's like because this is the thing if if that one made or Whatever they're fucking planning to do with it because made and it's poorly written It's not like that's evidence of video game adaptations. Just don't work. It's just like, well, no, it's just poorly written At this point you can make the same conclusion by being like, I guess star wars sequels just don't work Like we mean we've had so many bad ones like yeah, but we have one good one so I suppose I was saying that the other day by the way that uh, they were like uh To be fit e-fap are pretty like A hypocritical when it comes to a lot of things and someone said that how and they said um The apparently return of the Jedi is a great movie. I was like I don't think we've ever said that I think it's better than Jedi I don't think it's a great film I mean, that's great. The third act is great like well parts of it Parts of it. Yeah, sorry like Not the end or shit And the first act is real wonky From saying like I just don't remember and I'm pretty sure the last reference I remember to it before I saw that comment was rags saying, um They're they're two great star wars movies. Um And I think Was it was it you rags or someone else said the last time Can you can you imagine the last time someone came out of the theater thinking that was an amazing star wars film That was two days ago. I think was Yeah, that was me a couple days ago Yeah, the last time people walked out of a theater after watching a great star wars film was in 1980 Which uh back the dates everyone rags is saying something there Which I don't disagree with and I don't think many people do disagree with honestly um Yeah, I think I think it's the general perception is but That's it's a film that I enjoy a lot, which is I really enjoy. Yeah. Yeah I really enjoy Return of the Jedi a lot It's solidified luke and vader is Like iconic and respected characters forever And that's worth something. Yeah, that film brought him home Yeah Empire empire set them all up like really well, but you know still yeah And of course a new hope is a really strong standalone story Um, I mean it can be taken as a standalone story. Oh, yeah I mean, it's it's part of a trilogy. I guess what it says it's a really strong cohesive whole Yeah, um, yeah So, yeah, um, we think they can definitely work. It's just that we have very few examples Arcane probably being top of the leaderboard now Top of the leaderboard and I don't really know what would be its competition I don't even know what would know. Yeah, what would number two be? like By the way There were so many things that didn't make it into the media medley for arcane. It was kind of weird People kept sharing like these smaller takes and one of the ones I saw that I was going to include And I was just like, oh fuck it. It's just so bad as an argument that whatever it was um frustration The vie would have been angry at powder at the end of episode three when How to obviously didn't mean to kill anyone Come on Take care of that and just like come on don't get it sometimes like If you've never been angry at someone for doing something but they did not mean to do the thing Yes, because if they don't mean to do it that means you're not upset anymore like that's how human beings operate I I you know it had You not been taken by marcus. I I could believe that she would have Carried on her life with powder, but you would think about that forever. It would never go away Of course She's never going away for either of them. That's kind of the um That's like the truth of the show that it acknowledges and it's part of the reason why that show is so great. It doesn't shy away from that Yeah, you can't go back to the way you can't undo this this event has changed you whether you want it to or not I'm gonna have no problem rewatching that season up to when season two comes out I'm I'd like to rewatch it. Yeah Uh Here's for the delicious disnoid tears this eFap will cause I mean, it wasn't very controversial. Was it? I think even chat were very involved with Tearing it down because they weren't happy with it. We had a little push back with moon night. Um But I don't know how long that'll last Give it a couple more episodes Specifically three where it has a horrible ending Yeah And yeah, uh, but you know No way home was way more controversial than um Like falcon the winter soldier was in terms of our coverage I stand by what we said As do I I feel like we ripped into more of no way home than most people would have I described falcon the winter soldier to a friend in two words racial diarrhea also high rags racial diarrhea Hello, it does a lot of weird shit with racism in that in that show um Like people not recognizing falcon and thus they're like a black man. We must arrest him Uh the heavy-handed We are police we see black we arrest Eat chip check they phone You guys know cap four is going to have the falcon winter soldier showrunner writing it, right? Can't wait to go save for that dumpster fire Yeah That was a fun noise I love how they force sam and bucky to be poor even though they have no reason to be especially with far from home Especially with far from home um They talk about the fact that fury is a part of a huge organization that involves all of the heroes so Well, it's just there's no way that tony didn't set up a fund Or if the if he didn't the pepper wouldn't also set Maybe they're referring to tony having Set things in place for Peter and therefore he must have for everyone else Surely because yeah What's wrong me man? Like it it shits on tony as a character for sure Yeah Very frustrating. Um, also bucky shouldn't have been the new cap I'm much more happy with bucky being it than a falcon I've said this before and i'll keep I Don't mind either way Um, I guess it's more just a matter of like falcon. He just he doesn't have the super soldier serum Which means that there are some limitations to like what he can do um I think it suits way better than falcon is falcon. He's earned his position as falcon falcon is his identity Why does he need to take on captain america? Meanwhile bucky is known as the winter soldier, which is something He needs to shed whereas there's nothing to be like there's nothing to be ashamed of as being falcon I mean, it's kind of it's kind of odd overall like Become captain america. It's like no, i'm right. I'm i'm falcon falcon's a well-known superhero who helps the fuck out of people I don't know why I don't know is captain marvel should you become captain america? It's like no I maybe it is just a matter of because in the comics falcon does become captain america So I'm just like, oh, I guess that's what we do, but then again bucky has to so And also it's an adaptation. So You can do whatever you want I mean, ultimately, I'm I'm now settling for fine. Make it walker. He's like the most Wow I mean walker dropped the shield that he made to save the people and that isn't like earning, you know What it means to be captain america Walker is the best like storyline and out of everybody in that whole fucking show except maybe zemo Yeah, I guess like you can't see but yeah in terms of Dude zemo wipes out all of those super soldier cunts and he he kills the guy who's making the serums zemo's a chat in this season I'm very glad that worked out that way, but he will be back for another appearance at some point And we're all gonna be on the edge of our seats again Yeah, for all the wrong reasons World we live in like, oh god. I don't know. Oh god. I don't know. We're seeing him again Oh god. Oh man. Oh god. Oh man Um, is there any way I can ask any of you guys questions outside of super chats? Sometimes I have too many thoughts to get down in so many words. I can't afford longer super chats But they've been the only messages I asked that go noticed I'm afraid that um If we had a system for that and we reliably answered it Then we wouldn't even be able to finish them let alone super little. It's just this this is the best balancing that we have Yeah, we wouldn't be part of the super chatter. Yeah, it's really either super chance Or if you say something during a stream that is interesting or that catches our attention. Yeah Um, we do read chat so we definitely do. Yeah, and it's just rolls on by That's the problem when we got this many people looking to say stuff. Uh, it's just very few ways to Make it so that you can answer everybody Yeah, without just eating up all your time. Yeah Hello massives. Hi rags Hello Recently went on an og sargon stream binge including dnd crusaders, which is great But I still can't find the stream where I first heard you mention efap I can't remember a stream where I first mentioned efap I don't I have no idea what it was one of the efap episodes probably because it wasn't called efap for the first four Right like what I'm saying is like I don't it wasn't a like a designed thing that was launching before it launched, you know Sort of yeah, yeah, kind of it sort of did I guess I'm just a little confused as to what this person is really asking for If you're asking me the first time I mentioned the stream I have no clue When the first time was I mentioned the stream. I just don't have that I'll be a strange thing for them to want to find though, isn't it? Yeah, it's a strange thing. I suppose. Yeah Yeah, I wouldn't be looking for the origin of it. I'm not sure. I just I just don't know Happened a long time ago Anyways, I have an epic and celestial day. Why thank you I don't miss Boom chili Wakanda claimed jurisdiction for wherever they are sam just wanted to be captain america Ryan can just take the bat suit like black people can't just do whatever they want hey That's That that they do it with plenty of virtuous white women too. Okay, it's not just It's it's plenty of and there's probably some goofy ass Bad writing that reflects it on other characters. You just You don't want to find patterns like that. That's gonna lead you down very bad pathways It's more so Very incompetent writing Writing yeah, because They like do the whole yas queen thing with with the dora melange so hard. They have no idea what's actually happening Is the thing they're critical of? Yeah I'm Taking the shield. He does it with bucky. So they're both just as fucking guilty on that one And um, and it's nuts. They're taking it from They have to break his arm and beat him the fuck up in order to take this thing that Why are they taking it what people say is to prevent him from killing more terrorists or something? Oh, no I don't understand It's yeah, it's absolute fucking garbage as for then It was a bat woman taking that. Yeah, ryan taking the bat suit Of what's her name k kane took the suit Yeah It's it's all just terrible fucking writing dudes like We have to live with it because they have no idea what they're doing Uh j-bone will you be my first black? Nice nice. Yeah, I'm sure she'll be Super moved by that as a as an opening rags will you be my first doggo? I will be your first doggo We're going so many adventures together. How long this was a year ago. Yeah Oh dang it expired. Oh, that's that's rough. That's rough. Yeah, you take it only last for one year Yeah, what a shame so close I haven't watched and don't care about falcon the wind soldier sounds bad But that's no excuse to miss an e-fab episode nor an opportunity to tell you dumbo's to play ddlc That's the that's the spirit Hello, maybe maybe Haven't seen falcon the wind soldier. So I'll watch this stream later. Maybe just dropping in for a quick mohler. You're gay Thank you very much At least friendly ginger protester died at the end Friendly ginger protester wasn't friendly about it But again, maybe she got put on like a hospital thing God damn it. You did it up in uh green night Yeah, she did that right That lady in that house that was just in the middle of the forest headless lady in the house You know the forest where things happened My sister made me aware that there is a tv show um How I don't know if you guys have heard of it But it's called like the lady in the house across from the lady in the window or some shit like that on netflix Is it like anime? I think it's like the no it's it's Real tisms. It's it's about a woman who drinks wine excessively in her house and looks out a window and spots a murder kind of like the rear window or um Disturbia Which is the movie with the the original one with like jimmy stewart Uh He's like in a wheelchair and he sees a murder happen. Oh, I I I oh that's some oh no some sinners I know I knew you'd think of the simpsons reference Yeah, of course because I've seen that movie I can't remember what that was cold Said it's a looking kid. Yeah, but I I think you could call that as part of that genre. I don't know if you either you saw Disturbia, but that that was um Sheila boof Commits a crime and under house arrest and then he sees his neighbor Do something super suspicious and spends the whole film trying to figure out if it was a murder? You know, I'm not going to spoil what what it turned out to be because maybe you'll watch that film at some point But yeah, it's kind of almost a genre. I don't know but um Yeah, that one's called like the lady in the window Across from the street from another lady in a house with some stupid Name Sheila buff just sort of went crazy and went away, didn't he? He's still getting rolls, isn't he? I don't know. I think he is but I couldn't tell you what Yeah, I had no clue. No idea. Check the imdb. See if he's still um Saying he will not divide us in Assorted places in america. Have you seen the internet story video on that? He goes over like all the different locations and how he was found It's fucking amazing I'd prefer my headcanon to whatever imdb could tell me I want Sheila booth star and i robot too Sheila both can be the new alice and next resident evil series. Yeah Um Falcon the winter soldier is just spider-verse but worse I Where in the winter soldier Harrison between those two Wait, he's saying falcon the winter soldier is the spider-verse but worse I'm not sure what that comes from. I'm legitimately confused. I feel like there's just nothing I can say because I just have no idea how you connected those two All I got I got nothing for you. Yeah, I'm I'm at a loss Hello multisms and crew been reminiscing on older shows I loved and came to a crossroads when it came to band of brothers and this And the pacific off top your heads, which do you think is better objectively? I've only seen band of brothers, so Uh, I don't know. I think I'd like to rewatch both of them I've seen neither though band of brothers has like one of the best reputations for a tv show out of all of them Mm-hmm There's a lot of famous people in it Oh, yeah Like hitler I don't think you Who isn't in it? Okay. I'm not even a cameo Angry Joe episode two 13 21 Um, oh, I guess his review of falcon winter soldier episode two on the cop pulling a gun on falcon And I'm like this happens. This happens all the time. It's really cool to see it in marvel now So the problem is that like falcon is too famous for this to happen Um, it just it just doesn't feel very well justified. It feels well Especially given what's happening because I was just walking across the road Yeah, he was basically just I it's like oh, he was just being there Yeah, I think there's just I think there's ways better ways of doing if you're trying to make that point. Um I think so And ways that can just come across much smoother to people who find it like that you're trying to paint a picture As opposed to show an event Uh Yeah, I mean, it's a super touchy subject. It's just that when you see it, you're just like, oh Especially because of the components I think it's just because you can kind of see like the the intentions rather than an organic string of events Not to say that what they presented is like impossible as a scenario. It's just you could have You definitely could have done a better job of Arriving at the scene that you wanted I think so, yeah Dimo and john are great Yet the show wants you to hate them and expects you to like ginger and sam the series completely fails with the main characters I can agree with that though. I would be interested to think about what do you think the show wants us to think about zemo I'm not I don't think it wants us to hate him I think it wants us to think the walker redeemed himself to some degree when I don't think he really did much Of anything wrong. Um, yeah, he what he did was just of course what he was going to do based on what his character Actually was when they see it as oh see we're redeeming him. It's like no, he had nothing to redeem He was he was rough But I don't know that his actions should result in anything like the punishments that he gets I don't think it makes sense Especially in this universe where we've seen all of the avengers just enact anything they want to do all the time And um when he does it to someone who's just Extremely fucking dangerous and has just executed his partner. Like I just don't it just didn't didn't work for me um, so I'd say that Their intentions are a little skewed there. They definitely wanted us to feel some pity for for carly. I didn't feel anything at all I thought she was a horrible person Yeah, I'm glad she's fucking dead. I hope she's dead. Then there's Sam Who yeah, just kind of coasted through the the season getting to be the best guy ever without really making many smart decisions um Not very happy with him and in fact They that as if we haven't decided he was fucking assassinated. So Yeah, he was he was absolutely squandered because sam was in an okay place Like he just didn't have much. Uh, there wasn't much exploration of him in the prior films But but it's like there was nothing really wrong with him He was he was ripe for telling a story about and I feel like they definitely squandered that character Yeah, and then there's emo who It doesn't we were so nervous the whole time but he comes out We were so and it doesn't quite feel like him blowing up the rest of the super soldiers when they are caught by the way And like neutralized in a sense. It doesn't feel like the show was like God, don't you hate zemo right now? Not really. I think it was like wow, look at how confident he is. Oh, yeah, we're not. Yeah, not at all for him Yeah, I so so I don't know but that's kind of interesting thing about right like the show didn't want us to hate him Yeah, that is interesting To think he was kind of cool and interesting Oh, so Because I gave him his comic, uh, you know mask That was funny. We put it on just to take it back off after Yeah, pretty pointless, but sure. Well, it's good for the trailers Hi evap my cat has been struggling with a white White blood cell count the last few weeks. She doesn't have much time left Love your pets while you can you never know when your time will be cut short Hmm I hear Never had a cat myself I did learn a lot of people with cats Yeah, I had a cat when I was really young but barely remember it old Farkel Well, uh, yeah pets are precious man Hey Definitely give you the perspective of like man, you know animals kind of cool Yeah, there's certainly a lot of neat animals and cats are one of them Uh Watch the 1990 film jacob's ladder directed by adrian line. It's one of my favorite films of all time Jacob's ladder. I'm not seen it. I know the name, but I haven't seen it Yeah, same here Hollywood is becoming more bollywoodized Indian film industry And a majority of bollywood movies are purely escapists and operate completely on feelings logic and plot consistency the secondary It's sad to see the devolution or devolution um As I don't know if it was if it was I feel like michael bay is what you get when you're trying to just go feeling based in terms of like I want people to be blown away. Yeah exactly um Lots of things going on right now that tangle everything up into crazy nonsense. Um But there is definitely no consideration for plot consistency. You ain't wrong there Thank you rags. I actually like the show, but it's not good. I wanted to like it more I want to be able to recommend this, but I can't so many great character moments, but not the most important ones. It's so clunky So many great character moments white for what show presumably falcon the wind soldier Yeah I guess I was just confused why they mentioned me in particular Hmm, maybe they're talking about something in particular, but uh, there's not thousand soldiers. I don't know. I assume so Well, um, I'm afraid this may have been some time ago. So it's hard for us to remember that one But uh Whatever it was It was all right Um When carly asked bucky if he'd ever fought for anything bigger. Why did he neglect to mention he fought in europe? In will war two that's a pretty big cause Did she actually ask him that at some point Shouldn't most people even know that winter soldiers, um exploits are pretty public at that point I would imagine. Yeah um Yeah, I don't know wouldn't surprise me if uh, because I haven't seen that show in quite literally a year. So I can't quite remember if um If you just like fails to I mean fighting for cause without Thanos Yeah, I can believe that he doesn't say things that his character would obviously say True Uh, never seen the show, but I'll gladly watch you massive tear it apart. Anyway, the mcu should have stopped at end game Well Maybe we should have stopped it if Tennessee war hit that credit Imagine whatever you want for how everything turned out Um Jay Longbone, please say sorry soy cock, but in the real world the chad chud get the big titty ambi girl pregnant in a smug voice Man, I assume these are all from the same person. He's weird request for Jay Longbone He's making his own mcu maybe Now I finally understand how people felt after tlj captain america shield covered in blood says look what we do with your symbol of heroism My hope was the zemo would blow carly's head off Oh, he came so close. He came so close the show wouldn't let him The show wouldn't let him. Oh, that was a moment for us when he actually got the shot off and we were like And then uh, yeah, she just hid behind a table Yeah, that bulletproof table. Oh god. Do you remember the moment when he was it seemed like he was contemplating taking the super soldiers? Oh, we were so worried, but then when we were so worried, yeah, it was the moment of relief like Oh It's the most tension I've felt in a disney product and so a while. Yeah legitimately like seriously well at that point Anyway, no way home is kind of Oh, yeah, I guess no way harm, but like I almost almost don't even think of that as like the mcu for some reason Yeah, it's like the suicide squad being in like a dc movie Yeah, because if you if we were to grow out like, you know make a scale It all follows this trend and then there's just this one that walks off weird outlier. Yeah This one movie with great characters and terrible plot and you're just like what what what are you doing? How do you have a view in ages? Where what what do you have to? Tim pool says falcon the wind soldier is anti-woke because falcon punches antifa while choosing to fight for america thoughts also high rags Hi, sorry. What? I feel like did they forget the power you Need he advocates for them at the end But also like can we just stop framing meteor analysis through like these political leads? Oh, it's super cringe Because yeah, you can talk about it without referencing These people and see like these these organizations and trying to see which one better represents whichever. I just think that uh Probably when soldiers are fucking disaster Yeah Whether or not it's Work or not I don't care I just I like the idea like that doesn't think bad like you say whether or not it's work whether or not it's anti-woke. It's like wait How does it uh, I doubt disney would want to intentionally make that right with with what I don't know like okay We had thought um I think tim timpool has a couple of those kinds of takes doesn't he well because timpool said that um what was it that like uh Squid game was anti-communist. Yeah, not anti-capitalism Which I mean, it's just uh again. It's just another example of us being like can't we Can I just talk about what it is? Sometimes I think it's a matter of um, this is my toy and it is and it's yeah a little bit It can't let the other the other guys have it Because everyone likes squid game for the most part so then it's like well, you know you understand They do the thing I know I know plenty of them would have worse like you don't understand the point of the show You like it. You don't even know that it's against you or something like, you know, okay Yeah, it's like okay. Can we just can we stop please? Uh If have 133 catch up when? More importantly high rags. Uh, hello Hopefully that one got done presumably if On that one maybe yeah, well it's either in this list. I've got or uh, or it's done I'm If they're asking on this one when this one's the earliest one, I think we've got then Fuck, I hope that we got it done More importantly high rags Hello Decanonize endgame All right, that's never gonna happen Not only is it never gonna happen. It's just I actually think a lot of people would be like, what the hell don't do that Endgame was amazing And Wilson would think that august walker from mi fallout is had a noble cause Yeah, well no, like falcon's logic applies to basically any villain He's like hey, you should you should listen to a man. Come on. It's like, um It's unbelievable the fucking imagery of him like bringing her down the wings Yeah, that's an angel She like was crazy at the end. She shot Sharon remember when uh, when walker was trying to uh, save those people She actively stopped him. Oh god. She was actively trying to stop him from saving people Oh Tough to watch and they're probably gonna make walker evil Well, yeah, or at the very least. Ah, see he's an anti-hero not like, uh Bucky and now like yeah, they're real heroes And you just want to say fuck off What is sam's job does he or doesn't he work for the government? What is Sharon cap is the one white man whose opinion would matter zemo's right I don't mean the cap is the one white man whose opinion would matter. What does that mean? I don't know what they're referring to Zemo is right. Why are the flag smashes just as why are they? Sam's speech is so out of character the editing. They're just general complaints. I think um Yeah, well Sam's job is is completely unknown They they say he does like black ops missions. I think for the government, but it doesn't pay at all Yeah, you know the government doesn't have any money to pay Maybe if he was white they would have paid him and it's good to keep in mind the falcon technology is incredible Um, it is insane. They could have done so much cool shit with his falconess Oh, I wasn't I was talking more about his lack of money when he's like walking around with government property that's worth a gajillion or whatever Um, we're supposed to believe and he can repair it on the on the go He's clearly very intelligent person who's very good with tech Gotta be poor otherwise our narrative doesn't work And then what is Sharon? No idea. She became the boss of matter. Paul. Yeah, what is Sharon? What's going on there either? Rags and whoever this applies to pick three of your favorite fantasy racist slash species to fuck mary kilt for fuck's sake Also, hi rags. Hello Yeah, I would rather talk about nerdy stuff instead of which things you want to fuck from whatever fantasy IPs Yeah Since the snap was indiscriminate floating squids or mass effect fuck it. Yeah Since the snap was indiscriminate imagine waking up one day, and you're the only person left in your town Yeah, it's possible It's possible So many stories to have told with that time It's all none of them And you might think to yourself There was a discussion like yeah, we could do all of those But there's a very specific reason we're doing this blip thing and we need to sort out those storytelling goals You know, uh-huh. What are they? Uh And you look at everything that's come out since and you're like, yeah, how have you benefited from making this thing a thing? Mm-hmm Because i'm trying to think it's like I guess Yeah, because all the movies have tried to ignore it. So I don't understand like why this was necessary It was just there because it was a big thing to get people into the cinemas for those sequel What a mess Um, everyone's talking about how strong vibranium is when in episode six cap shield is taken out by a chair Anyway, keep it a good work when he walks. Yeah God, I almost forgot about that. There's a pretty strong chair, right and bat rock is a talented man Hello massives and hi rags Hi there has anyone played boulders gate three and or control thoughts on them I've not played them there. Baldur's three eyes on my to-do list I played a little bit of control, but I couldn't tell you much about it. I um, yeah, I hear it's really good Yeah, I've heard good things. I've heard it's okay Yeah, I don't know anything about you though Um, I haven't seen this show, but it sounds like el chupacabra. I'm staying away from it If anyone recommended to anybody Hopefully that was clear after we spent what how many hours talking about it It's pretty easy right now to do recommendations for marvel. It's like, um, all right So once you presumably you're done with end game It's like where she goes access like well no way home and then be good You know calling it like end projects. It's like, oh no that went well Calling it the goat sucker is actually very very on point. You guys know what you know it Oh, I guess I started the wrong thing. So chupacabra means the goat sucker uh Because of the the legend that it goes around Exanguinating You know farm it got cattle and you know chattel that sort of thing So And much the same way that goat means greatest of all time you have all these great great characters that are ruined By you know the mcu's continuation Hmm. Yeah, you're saying there's quite the argument to say that uh The marvel the mcu is el chupacabra right now In a sense though, what does it mean when it's sucking its own blood dry, you know Yeah Wow, it's people's creations that came before I guess through if you break it up to be less broad it is New creators sucking the blood out of old creators stuff Yeah um Reminded to support beyond the pale rpg on patreon No idea what that is. All right Oh more mentioned in a leaf on the wind now i'm sad wash Then then then that's a spoiler right there. There's no need for me to read that one out, but yes very sad Uh Tim pool says falcon. Oh wait Either that was sent twice where I read it before um They deliberately show that sam and bucky cannot fight together until they can does falcons new suit give him super strength Do they mean to reinforce walker's privilege by not court-martialing him? physics um What do you mean that uh They can't fight together until they can i'm not sure what that means by that And uh as for a suit giving him super strength presumably not Wow, I think we're meant to presume that it does I don't know how it would but I think we're meant to assume that it helps um I think I think we're meant to assume that it does that because it's like oh, it's vibranium That's that's what vibranium does it helps you well It's gonna be bulletproof because We need everyone to be bulletproof Nobody can get shot bullets can't well. It's just funny because of the way the mask is done that it's so stupid leaves It's like whole head open, right? Yeah, it does it leaves at top of his head open too. That's the big part. That's like what the hell are we doing? Yeah He's a little dumb. All right If seema was the main villain of the show, do you think it would have been improved? honestly, no Uh exactly what they did with him. It was it's a miracle. We got that It is a miracle it is hard to overstate We were we were legitimately tense in the chest every time he was on screen Because we know their track record and we were just We were like, oh man. I can't fucking believe that It's like every scene every scene it teetered on the edge of a knife that they were gonna ruin him they um When they break him out Not his fault It's it's everyone who works there and bucky and falcon for thinking that was gonna work Lucky that doesn't really destroy him at all And then they carry him around and he actually like outsmarts them By getting information but under their nose from that place he takes them to Then I think they want to try and recapture him. He ends up getting loose running away And and like in a rare moment of them actually coming through on his character His only focus was trying to crush this new rising super soldier threat and he does It's like and then he actually gives himself Gives himself up while talking about how this was never about like any kind of he's not Doing this because he's like evil And uh, I guess that just how the fuck do we get that lucky? Unreal. Yeah A little bit lucky there could have been a fucking You wouldn't have been surprised at all if they had made him like the evil one of like There seems to be an element of going for this But like how he and karli are kind of the same thing and she's kind of Maybe more sympathetic because they give him more backstory shit than uh And he gets in this or at least reminding of what his backstory is, but whatever Yeah, had they made him the main villain of the show. I think it would have been much worse Oh, yeah, absolutely um Hello all my end woods. Hi rags Hi Do say hello to wolf from me because he was the reason I found you massives try to have a fun efab Oh, thank you very much. I'm sure you always try to have fun. You can see that one was a fun one. Yeah Yeah This show was so bad from preachy childish narrative to stupid millennial villain And bucky suddenly forgot his training and can't defeat a bunch of drugged hippies. Hydra would be so ashamed Yeah, um bucky was nerfed like crazy in this that season Yeah, he's kind of a stupid asshole What a shame Yeah, really How do you feel? Oh, see there's another one, but I mean, it's definitely a different one How do you feel about tim pools take the fat was isn't woke that it's patriotic captain america beating up amtifa That's so funny or each time I just I just Really into the shit like this is always just hilarious to be We've talked before as well as that's not our approach Even if they intended for whatever messaging and they're really incompetent at writing it It just makes everything even more worse with another dimension on top In terms of like shit writing because you start to try and draw A message out of it and I could totally see timpool arguing with the writers I could see the writers being like, uh, no the the flag smashers Have a righteous cause and timpool's like no they don't and uh Neither does does falcon think so and he's beating the fuck out of them And then the rise will probably be like no, we have a whole scene where he goes over how Well, then you could be like, yeah, but all he says is do better. Yes. He doesn't they don't happen You know like you could Yeah, it's just yeah, I can see it happening. I got you Check out invincible unlike joss and sniders cuts It actually does the real consequences of superheroes very well and actually has funny jokes So I can tell this isn't all the one because it seems like the opinion on invincible has kind of shifted, uh In the time I don't know. Well people stop recommending it eventually. They didn't give up with fucking arcane No, they didn't They knew that uh I mean, I've just come to terms with that now I realize that that's just one way to get me to watch anything is once there's enough recommendations from enough people Especially people that are like people who have similar taste as me. I should be like, oh shit. All right Yeah It's kind of neat how because like if arcane was shit, I seriously doubt it would have gotten around Yeah, I think uh, I think it probably would have just nobody would have cared right I'm pretty sure it would just be that show that someone mentions in a super chat Like did you play logic to see that show they made about it? And I'd be like, no Or I would have asked Theo if it was any good and he would have said no and then that'll be it Because he would watch it because he's obsessed with animation You guys don't get it falcon is trying to hide his income from the irs. That's why he can't lend money to his sister That's like the reveal. He just wants to spend it on himself. He's tired of all this bullshit I love the how marvel insinuates the winter soldier was active in the korean war But the world as we know it involves the us europe and random fake countries Oh, you're saying like With the amount they fuck with like our understanding of everything in the mcu that you don't even know what these historical events would have meant with uh Kind of true, um You know if you want to get super nerdy with it. It's like the existence of captain america Would have had an enormous ripple effect on the whole world and culture everywhere Yeah, but they don't We don't want to deal with that. We just rather say no everything's the same. He's just here Except maybe colson has some grading cards, you know, he's like, all right because remember You get him and then nothing for ages And then loads the superheroes suddenly of all different places all different sources Many from the cosmos all converging And you can tell that once upon a time we may have been able to argue is to do with Thanos collecting the stones But really at this point there's just nothing to suggest that there's any reason It's just a matter of fuck it This is being made in this day and age and everyone's just popping up now because we're making more of them so The kind of coincidence stuff people don't even like to think about because it seems like so petty to complain about I was like, oh no spider man and iron man are operating at around the same time. Why is that a problem? It's like The only way to get around it is There's a solar flare and it affects the whole population of earth Yeah, and some people it does nothing and some people it gives them power kind of like uh the Nevers Yeah, uh, also smallville, I think and the flash show did that This helps you generate a bazillion villains for your hero to fight Um Misinvincible it's worse than falcon, but you guys you'll like it this screenshot has the same colors as this one panel It's awful on so many levels I'm sorry Do not understand what you're saying. That's very confusing. Can you say this screenshot? Gooberchats can't come with screenshots So, uh, yeah, I got nothing on that one. Um On free's ronin point one of the most valuable things I've ever learned is that your emotions might be real But they might not be rooted in reality yeah it's um They're in response to external stimuli or even just thoughts that you have I guess that can arise They're like ask for whether or not they're gonna help you is that's kind of a different question Like I do with ronin I I'm not sure what it's like ronin specifically hawkeye okay I don't know I That's what I like the sentiment I understand I guess I don't understand what it has to do with uh hawkeye though If that's who they're talking about Oh, yeah, I just can't remember what you may have said related to that that thing I'm incredibly disappointed in myself for not noticing all these issues the longer the stream goes on the more I hate fat was I'm gonna sell you um Yeah, it's riddled from episode one because It's no secret that I actually have a whole script written that breaks down that entire show Uh one day may be made into a video But like even the um, I think we would have gone over in the stream But the scene with the therapist and bucky it's like Completely catastrophic immediately Because they didn't think about any of it And it just makes you wonder about the state of bucky in this world. You cannot gloss over that There's the time to to address that for the audience is this show, but they don't They don't and now will I ever it's like I don't give a fuck I don't know that they do really They just forgot about war machine being black and an american symbol Is that because he's already war machine that they wouldn't want to give him captain america I mean, I guess I can understand what I wouldn't want to give it to him. Maybe but like But I was already talcans, so Well, that's actually my argument for why shouldn't be captain america's. I don't understand. Uh, but because yeah, that's what I'm saying If you had like they have the shield and they're like, who should we give this to and walker is one of the suggestions And then someone says well, what about rodie? I could totally see them being like, well, he's war machine Like war machine is this the closest thing we've got to a government sort of hero Already he's established. We want him to become captain america's and we lose it Well tango so we can get a replacement war machine, but rodie is a really good war machine. So there's no real reason to Yeah, you know, and yeah, and and to be fair. I'm pretty sure they They figured walker would be like perfect Um, yeah, and then I guess it just didn't pan out because the plot demanded that Yeah, even though he was fucking stellar and I doubt you could have picked a more Upstanding person for the job. Well. Yeah, remember remember in canon. He won three medals of honor like You don't just get to say that well the fact that he's not only having won three, but the fact that he's alive and he's won three Yeah, Jesus But now let's find out about Uh, walker is cringe. Anyway, everyone went full massive when lamar died and winterfowl can just let everyone run away Even my fangirl wife could not um, and There's no second part to it No Maybe maybe it ends there. She This fangirl wife could not Yeah, no, that seems really annoying. Um Some reason everyone is like blown away by whether or not lamar is okay Instead of it like that to me someone like um bucky should be completely unfazed by people dying Uh Unless of course they're like steve you should be he should be bothered by how he's unfazed by it. Yeah Give anything. Yeah his decision-making shouldn't be um, like Ruined by the fact that someone in the middle of this fight may have died like that That should be on the cards like totally for him at all times I mean like the fact that this guy is like this had a whole history of being a merciless fucking killer I don't know. I think we've done so much better work for it. Oh, yeah, of course they could have but That's never on the cards really was it? um, but yeah, they all fucking run out of the room and everyone just watches it because they they You know, obviously walker running up to lamar's body and being like that's totally fine, but Having falcon and bucky just sort of let everyone remember in that scene as well bucky like has the chance to kill one of them And he just doesn't because he's like no, I don't want you and it's just like man Clearly there was an idea of why are you here? Yeah There was obviously an idea of like should bucky kill anymore Or is he uncomfortable killing now because he's you know more bucky than he is winter soldier and and just like You didn't explore that shit really at all. Did you No, I don't I don't even know if it was even there to be anything other than just I don't know Makes me wonder if that's just residue of like what they were planning to maybe do if they had more time or whatever, but I don't know restaurant I couldn't stop laughing about Sam talking about being the black man with stars and stripes like iron patriot wasn't a thing. That was a mistake. Yeah Yeah, that was a fuck up They completely forgot I am and three really happen. Yeah And I saw there were there were plenty of discussions about that. They were like, this is a different thing He's referring to captain america and it's like dude War machine wore the fucking american flag on himself pretty much like you can't get more star spangled than that It's it's just like I I refuse to believe they remembered that when they wrote that I I would hasten to guess that they didn't Walker is cringe. No, wait. Sorry. I read that one In ultron doesn't cap drag a man behind his bike at high speed before flinging him into a tree. Yes. Yeah, he does There are plenty we highlighted a huge amount of times that cap has taken someone who is Disabled in terms of like their threatening levels and he's just decided to execute them Which by the way is not something I hold against a person in the middle of a fucking war They're type players However If this show is going to hold that against the character You have to hold it against cap all the people who's killed I mean like the people in the Tresquilion Fucking Iman blew out the guy's heart in Iman 3 Yeah I guess that's fine Don't worry about it. Yeah, that's fine And at that point if it's just the fact that people saw it I'd be like, well, what a what a great bit of nuance you got going there Yeah Only kill people if nobody sees you do it. It's the private versus public murdering. Okay Uh I thought bucky was holding back in fights because of his arc, but no, what is the point of a vibranium arm if it's just an arm Okay, so having an arm is very useful. Let's get that out of the way Just assuming they're more so appealing to how it doesn't seem to do much Other like like that's not just the things that an arm can do in some of his fights But I mean I don't need to see punch people with that arm because you think that would be the obvious thing to be able to disable someone quickly with right Because it would hurt a lot the vibranium. Yeah. Oh, yeah getting punched by a metal arm I imagine that it hurts. Maybe I had the wrong like intonation because what I think they do have a point What is the point of a vibranium arm if it's just an arm? Oh, right. I see. I guess because it would be indestructible basically Yeah Yeah, but they think that you'd want to put that shit to use I guess that's the implication. It's just like it doesn't seem to make much use of it at all in any particular way Yeah, no, I know Remember when she disables it Uh, yeah with my chicken hand. Yeah Damn you sleep. I hope all the hosts in chat are doing good as do I Yeah Uh, my mom had this job if you hadn't gotten income for years then there is no reason to believe the debt can be paid Sam sister is just dumb I remember what what job they're talking about. What was his sister's job? I can't remember. I thought it was just like community service or catering. Was it? catering, yeah She was a caterer a person of cater If you haven't gotten income for years, then there's no reason to believe the debt can be paid All right, I guess it's relating to how she but yeah But the reason why it's stupid is because I had no income for years because I didn't exist Like that was a criticism. They bring up but then sort of don't really address like as a yeah It's your fault. Yeah, they say yeah We're not gonna give you this loan because you didn't have income for five years and they said well I was blipped away for five years and they said lol. Don't care when obviously that's absurd and no one would ever operate by that Yeah, especially when half of the world So half of the world doesn't get to have loans anymore. It would be like a blip package You just have to prove that you're a lady and then you'd get a little package Package Yeah, the government will be all over it trying to make sure everyone can get back to on their feet basically Yeah, that'd be a huge thing politicians would talk about. Oh, yeah Because everyone has family members who are blipped. Everyone knows how difficult this is and we're we're not gonna leave those people behind that sort of shit Absolutely, dude imagine that was in this show. That would be really cool Like there's an actual presidential election relating to the blip and everything Yeah, I think it would be I wouldn't trust them to do it in a million years, but you know Oh, yeah, because they'll say that yeah, they'll they'll have the republicans or the the right. They will have a literal cheeto on the screen And he will he'll be a cheeto in a little little tuxedo or something some reason And it'll be like aren't we very clever? but then of course, uh House of cards kind of dabbled in that and it went to shit as well Do you see that season? I think you did right? They started having the election Oh, yeah, yeah, I did watch that one. I was season four. I think right it was like It was like I think season four was the last one. There was pieces of good Oh, I didn't watch after that. No I I kind of remember the difference anymore in terms of the good and bad seasons and where it went wrong I think season one and two were like the only good ones, right? And three was kind of a mixed bag And what I hear is the last absolute last one was an absolute fucking nightmare to watch because I hear that they have not managed to deal with kevin space. He's been booted out very well And you know hate the man iral, but uh, his character was a big draw for that show Uh, you guys don't get it falcon is trying to hide his income. Oh wait, sorry. I read that Just finished watching new model combat movie. I laughed entire time. How bad it was and funny in the same time Yeah, it's a pretty um pretty awful movie, but like it Entertainment factor is still quite there for a lot of pieces of it. We're talking about the old mortal combat New one new laugh the entire time. Hmm It would do it. I think there were stretches in that film where we would just like come on do stuff Yeah, a little bit Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't good. It wasn't I wouldn't call it terrible It wasn't good though Yeah, kind of a bad Yeah, but there were parts I liked Oh, yeah But my civil war gosh done y'all sound like a bunch of colonizers and you get what you deserve Oh, no We are kind of colonizing youtube, okay by by making content on it existing. Yeah Chat still owes more of 50 50,000 more memes. They'll be forgiven after they pay their debt. Jesus Oh, is that a reference to Stefan Wolf owing like 50,000 planets? Do you remember that? Oh, yeah, that's right. 50,000 worlds Yeah, basically If he can knock out one per day Oh my god, yeah, I'm still gonna take in 50,000 years Like a log and took him to do it Yeah, like god damn. What a stupid movie That movie is a very stupid movie. Yeah One of them will building problems. We're from the get-go. You're just like hang on Have you thought about how fucking long the time that is? That's like getting a sentence. No, not life sentence. Just 10,000 years in the slammer Never liked civil war. I always knew they'd drop the split and accords would have liked to be wrong But anyway, you don't get credit for an idea. That's not a reason to dislike civil war Civil war is down for what it is in terms of a You can't rent out the concept Well, what I would say is civil war's potential was squandered after the fact Yeah, it's like it sets up Really a brand new fresh chapter for the world of the mcu and then they sort of rushed into what we're doing the end of the Thanus stuff now. You know, like, oh, sorry Oh, so what about the accords? Yeah, what about him? Oh, and then they finish up and then they're like right back to normal. What is the state of our normal worlds? Like well, there was there was a core. It's it's fine do ever Need to do whatever you want problem with soldier was the spiritual successor to civil war War yeah, it was you use some of the music. Yeah Bucky sold his first issue of the hobbit to pay for falcons free weapon rentals If that's like He read the hobbit when it came out and apparently there were actually very few copies printed when it came out Imagine how much that would be worth. We still had that Well, it'd be worth a lot. Yeah Didn't want to keep bothering rags with angry joe's reviews. So I'll super chat it last episode. He gave an eight out of 10 Oh, I guess he gave one of the happy that doesn't surprise me. We just talked about that. Yeah, he yeah He's uh, he's not good at reviewing movies and shows. He's just not he's not equipped for it Uh One day joe will have a non a good non game take Um, yeah, maybe what is the technical difference between a warlock and a wizard? Oh, I can't remember this conversation. I remember happening But I can't remember I think the implication is that a warlock dabbles in more of the occult kind of magics I thought what we had established was that it was just that like a warlock is uh as a male witch Yeah, that's what I've always known it to me Yeah, well that that kind of goes into what I said because a witch generally has a like uh when people say Oh, there's like negative connotations. I guess Yeah, there's uh negative connotations to a witch in the sense that they Blood rituals and consorting with demons and dark magic and the the occult right and a warlock vibe, you know I think it's been pretty broadened out at this point. It's really going to just again. It's kind of like vampire and I used to Baggage with it if you want to call it baggage. It's not really baggage. It's Yeah, it's it's just sort of a general like if I was making a world and I referred to someone as if I had a character refer to a Female magician if you will as a a witch it meant that they would See them and the magic they do as almost it's almost like an insulting thing or a derogatory thing But also descriptive like oh, that's that's a witch You know, they wouldn't say oh, yeah, she's a mage Or she's funny because in the buffer universe magic uses that are female called witches And there's plenty of ones that are strictly altruistic and non occulty Yeah, sure there are What would you call them and like just Women who are using magic that I know I don't know. I haven't really thought about it. If I was Uh Yeah, I don't know. I think it's it's it's world specific, but there's just general connotations to things, but I don't know. It just depends on the world. Um I would call them I mean as as Being in the world or myself being outside of the world looking in No, you're right in it. I mean If i'm writing it It would depend on the nature of their magic probably like if it was like healing spells and unfilings A gandalf of the girl Yeah, if it was good gandalf stuff and like white magic and healing and things like that I might just go call a mages or a magi or Wizards or I don't I don't think I call them sorcerers Sorcerer has more of a mysterious Um Kind of vibe to if you call someone a sorcerer they could go either way in terms of good or bad Um calling someone a sorcerer has a it conjure it conjures up a a kind of Like oh kind of untrustworthiness because you never know what a sorcerer will do But wizard seems more approachable I think it's actually In buffy where uh, which has negative connotations and one of the characters that is a witch is frustrated by that Yeah um I just joined and there's strange music going on. We're so confused and then fringles started looking up the definition. I get it Yeah, we had a whole discussion Which is wizards Music Wizards are separate and require training sorcerers have innate magic witches are made of wood And therefore sheet tear and warlocks are male witches Witches are made of wood. That's the first I've heard of that Oh, that's thank you Oh, is it That's what because then burnt no money python Oh, I don't I'm blanking on that completely. Yeah, I know if a witch is made of wood she'll float Oh, that was uh, I remember that from the simpsons. Simpsons had that as a joke Yeah, I think I'm getting that tangled up Um Now you're just making me think of our season of the witch Great film great film great Uh Atmola restore the elevator music tism Hashtag. Yeah, but anyway. Hi guys. Hi fringo And the queen of the cackle j longbone and I guess rags Hello The difference is the hat ah Goal becomes clear Uh sorcerers magic comes from themselves wizard mage magic comes from nature Which is warlocks magic is granted from someone else like a deal with the devil I like how these rules are They're all different for each person who sends them in Yeah So confidently I think it just highlights the reality of the situation. It's dependent on your whatever fiction or writing Uh, whatever particular version I said this this applies to like vampires werewolves and uh Even frankenstein like there's gonna be all kinds of different ways of doing it Because like if I had vampires that aren't affected by sunlight You should be like what but if it became like a hyper popular take so it was so well written or whatever um Or just just people enjoyed the idea Then eventually people just be like I guess vampires aren't always affected by the sun And then there probably is some kind of fucking like old-ass reference Like the this this comes up with zombies. Um The original ones don't eat brains Or even flash right they just eat they do whatever their master commands them to do that's how they work And that's just not the perception that they have no in terms of completely moved on now And if you made them that way, I think people would be like this isn't zombies like voodoo magic or whatever exactly That's a great example to have because it kind of proves the point, but that's fine exactly Mage is a profession wizard is wise sorcerer influences fate More crazy rules I think fate slash stay knight covered this a techno mage just executes code All right Okay, I got nothing for you So then according to the disney trilogy rey is a sorcerer and it is about space sorcerers and stop taking it so seriously Yeah, why don't force users are categorized as Hmm, I guess wizards Because they're using the natural world, which is something that somebody said no apparently matters I identify as a battle mage Pretty cool. I guess uh, I guess I guess Gandalf's like a battle wizard any Getting in there in a sense. Yeah You shall not pass Mola is a rigor lover rigor what Or maybe I don't know One who rigs A one of rigor. Oh that's something I didn't mention to you guys before and Now it'll be here instead of on a different e-fab. I guess but uh, of course the new episode of doctor who this is wonderful part Now give you all the components you need. There's like eight people on a pirate ship And then maybe about 10 meters away to the left is a ghost pirate ship thing that's floating there And they realize the ship they are on is probably about to explode. I think and then you have they have to get on to that other ship And so yeah, this is something they walk on the ghost ship They've uh, it's just a big gap between their ship and that ship Okay, so They say like we've got to get over there. It's like, yeah, all right So, uh, you know, there's a couple things. I'm sure we could come up with for solutions to that problem But you know, what did they do they cut to a wide shot of both ships You can't really see like the nature of anyone or just you could just kind of barely see the ships And then you hear the doc to say Geronimo And then it cuts to the next scene and they're all on that ship Oh, that's clever. Yeah Nice That's one way to solve a problem when you when you're working us over like that Yeah wraps that all up in a neat little bow I'm starting to think that Geronimo was ADR as well. Maybe they like filmed it. It was awful. Whatever their thing was They're like, we just we just do something else Let's just not show it. It's somehow better that way. What we shot is so bad. It's better to not even show it Um, if an astronaut was a werewolf and on the moon, would he turn into a werewolf even if the moons isn't full? Well from your perspective the moon is Well, you can only you're you see far less of the moon when you're actually on the moon So seeing it or feeling it Well, that's the thing you see less of the moon in totality The answer to this is it depends on what your werewolf lore is Yeah Being in the sight of the moon then you would always be Oh, yeah, because Van Helsing Argued like it was literally whether or not you can see it or it like shines its light a moonlight. I think made you a werewolf Yeah So that means that on the dark side of the moon you would not be a werewolf But on the light side of the moon you would what about if you're on the dark side of the moon You shine a little torch down on the floor I don't think that would you would have to shine a Maybe if you've shown a bright enough light at the moon to bounce it off you could Or maybe oh, maybe you could say specifically. Yeah, why wouldn't just a little light where Maybe it's not bright enough It wouldn't bounce back at you enough. It's strong enough It would have to be as sufficiently strong enough actual light like why would I just assume anything more than zero would be enough um I think even more than zero there'd be some light coming off of it But I don't think a flashlight would be strong enough to sort of trigger it You know like you would need a like if you took floodlights and things of that nature and rigged them up and um Showing it down and you were standing there with it Then that would work but or the alternative is that um, it specifically is sunlight that bounces off the moon That could be a rule and it turns out the big twist is where wolves are much more connected to the sun technically because That's right You're onto something there The moon is cool moon night is cool not anymore though Whenever this episode comes out A very little moon night in the show up to this point, aren't we? Yeah, there's very little moon night. We only got like well, we've had five minutes of them Maybe we've had very little detective work. That's for sure Yay Yeah Um hashtag not my frozone Don't know what the context is for that, but I'm sure it was relevant in some way Um at william ice bane. He would turn into a werewolf when the earth is fully lit as seeding from the moon He'd turn into a he turned into a werewolf and he could see the earth From the moon. Well, I didn't say he could see it. It was just that the Once the moon lit up the earth at full potential When the moon lit up the earth at full potential meaningful moon But for some reason this thing seems to specify that it's How much it is lighting up the earth Again, this to me just seems like something that's gonna be different for everyone who's making it Most people probably haven't even thought about it who make werewolf stuff or we just like whatever. It's the moon This is worth thinking about all right. I think so It sounds super Petty almost but ultimately like there are some payoffs you can have down the road if you think about these ahead of time absolutely If all the scenarios your wolf man will get into, you know, someone might be relevant once you find out what your rules are On a side note currently lifting to get swole enough to pimp slap a werewolf No fairy frick is gonna get a drop on me bite me. Huh? I'll bite you So being swole won't prevent him from getting the drop on you Just so we're clear if that's your goal Yes, and well you'll punch him He'll punch straight away. We can still get the drop on you No, that's as he's dropping you'll punch him. Oh No drop done comes out And then of course once you bite the werewolf you'll become a human wolf He turns into a human every every day As a result of you infecting him with your human venom Pretty cool I recommend invincible tv show earlier. It got really bad later on. Sorry for recommending it lol. Oh Damn story of our life I don't think we ever had anyone say they regret recommending arcane, so No, I'm sorry. Yeah, let's seem to be the exception I'm sure. Yeah. Well Maybe someone if season two is poopy. Maybe maybe he'll be that way. Yeah, but hopefully not Um best albums for rhapsody of fire and avantasia uh mystery of time for avantasia and Rhapsody of fire is complicated. There's a couple Oh The album that emerald sword is in it might actually be called emerald sword. I can't remember but uh, yeah Go with those answers Though I love basically the discography from both of those bands Um Worst thing to hear in bed Five dollars more if anyone can beat make sure to close the casket when you're done. The wake is tomorrow Nice To be fair, maybe you're fucking a vampire which um You know that could be okay Yeah, I mean they they passed the harkness test weird to do it there though Maybe it's a kinky thing or maybe that's just their bedroom is a casket Because they sleep in caskets because as you do if you're a vampire They're they're really like they're really conservative. They're big on tradition, you know, so they sleep in a casket You know rags character is us During the day Vampire wise and he's sleeping in his coffin and he says I hate that stereotype Yeah, some of them are like that. Maybe some of them embrace it um EFAP episodes a long slash don't jump from a place too high Slash when grandma's getting discharged slash. I'm worried because rags went in dry. Oh Oh That's art Yeah Hoping for a review of modal combat anyone. Well, you got an EFAP movies double feature on it So, yeah, we give we have pretty decent thoughts at the end. Yeah talking about them both Which one we prefer which one we uh, how we you know how we feel on both of them? So You could check those out and you will have your answer Yeah, and you'll have some fun times along the way Rags open carry is legal in ak. Do you? Uh, I don't live in alaska. I live in arkansas However, uh, no because open open carry is not a thing here currently I am on it. I carry concealed that is how it's done here Some states are open carry. Some states are open carry only in no concealed carry Really? I don't know that Hey train, I think Yeah So I think one state just signed into law that you don't even you don't need a license to carry a gun Uh on you so I don't know it depends on state to state, you know Generally like in the south and some states out west and everything the gun laws are way better Um, and some they're just some are just downright fucking tyrannical and oppressive It depends where you go a lot of different states Uh, a train and billy butcher found pipi longstockings compound v shipment Pipi longstocking that's a fucking trip I'm not sure what this means. I'm just gonna Even alone Drinkers video on starship troopers was godawful to be fair Drinker hasn't been enlightened by sargon. Okay A lot of people haven't I don't blame a lot of people at this point for still having the Like tier two perspective We're talking about four and it sounds kind of vain. I don't mean it's me that way But tier one perspective is what a fun action movie tier two is This movie was like trying to come across as you know cool and actiony while trying to prove that That's how fascism works. It kind of has an aesthetic. You think it's kind of neat and cool, but it's horrible underneath and then tier three is like Wait, this this isn't fascist though Yeah, this is like the opposite of fascism. This is actually kind of great There's a lot of very interesting elements to it And it's so weird to watch um arguments go back and forth because I think one of the best ones would be Redder media would say You have this guy Who's welcoming in new recruits You've got a robot arm and two missing legs and he says um A mobile infantry made me the man I am today and like they laugh and say like what a great little bit of satire This guy who's sitting you in pieces like being like, oh, yes This is this is a good thing for you guys to do welcoming welcoming them to the meat grinder And then you have sargon talk about it and it's like so it's a guy Who's clearly a veteran and he's proud of the work he did for his his culture his country like uh Even as much as he's lost he still is proud and glad that he did the decision and it was worth it to him and if you take it with like As good faith as you can with a literal interpretation He's saying that with those words on pippus. He is like Look at me. I I'm aware of the fact that I've lost limbs and it hasn't uh at all changed my perspective the I did the right thing for the right reasons and I'm proud of the man. I am you know that sort of thing and It's like I think most people would say like yeah, you could have either Interpretation now just be like, I don't know man Like it's it's so strange when you look at the film with the perspective of I suppose it can slot in with one and the other But you just have to ask some questions and I feel like one perspective starts to fall apart Will the other one get stronger? uh Because I remember seeing the video was pretty I think that's why sargon made his video, right? He said he was spurred on by red light media's video I can't remember why he said he uh, I can't remember if the timeline's right on that but yeah, I don't know it's uh It's very interesting to think about especially because like the main argument would be but the director said it was a satire And it's like I know That's a really bad satire. I don't know what to say Is This This put in the pocket for death of the author. I suppose I don't know. I find the whole subject rather interesting Wizard soldier versus sorcerer soldier debate go Um, do you think they meant sorcerer soldier? I assume so wizard soldier versus sorcerer's soldier I don't know what we can do with that, you know I don't know Favorite Dyson Sphere youtube creator. I don't know. I don't know any youtube creators that do Dyson I know what it is I didn't know that was a kind of youtuber. I had no clue Nope You don't pay anyone played unipop one or two. I beat one Yeah, I played one. It was okay It's kind of disappointing I'm guessing free. I don't know why I did it What games again, sorry unipop one and two No Rakita Laura's down to come on eFap do it gonna happen one day I think I might just make it an episode where we talk about like One or two or maybe even three movies that relate to law and just talk about him You know like the shad one we did but with a guy who's a lawyer instead Because we can't exactly talk about weapons with a lawyer because they're all nerdy and stuff We'll figure out something a 10 hour review of space jam seems topical now There probably is one isn't there? I'd imagine at this point Probably long form on the long rise, which is long good Everyone google long covet even diseases think eFap is too toxic Maybe long code is the good one Um, hey, I'm just not sure. I don't know Rags you are on the on the wizard debate bonk Oh, you're wrong on the wizard debate. Damn What even I don't even know what was my perspective? I don't fucking remember But I have it on good authority that you were wrong, so Screw bucky battle star is a cool name. Also. He didn't laugh when steve was captain america um I guess it's kind of hard to say at this point because I can't imagine I'm obviously have heard it already, but like if you were faced with the option for two superhero names in a world with zero Reference to any of that sort of thing and your choices were captain america or battle star. Which would you go for? I think I'd probably go with battle star because I'd probably argue captain america sounds a little uh I don't know. I feel it. Yeah, I think that Our captain america has sort of made that name not weird and cringe when it otherwise would have been, you know Yeah, so I guess I agree with that kind of Three medal of honors is absurd only 90 people have ever won two one of them was marine general and legends medley butler in will war one Yeah, it is absurd And you can point out that I think we did But then you have to move forward with that being true. You know what I mean like it's It shouldn't have been possible But now you have to actually look at walker and the world around him as though he's actually gotten that many Uh medals of honor. That's just how it works Um, and nobody treats him that way And he doesn't really act that way I mean Like he's super emotional Which I guess isn't something that would preclude you from getting a medal of honor. It just doesn't seem quite right Like, um, he should have like enormously Incredible control over himself in battle to know exactly what decisions to make at what times But um, I don't know. It's it's just uh, it's more so frustrating that people It don't seem to give a fuck that he's gotten that and it doesn't hurt him anything Medals of honor used to mean something. Damn it I think that was the line when you got really angry. It was like, you know, I am Oh Yeah, it was at that point we realized. Oh, they're just going to turn him into an angry person. Yeah You should have asked him to be his swim buddy Do not know the context that one's for Um, hello all my wingmen Oh, yeah, they got offended When he he called him a wingman. He used to do a cap's wingman It's true. That's fine. Don't worry about it. Just change your name to drop table users I'm uh, I'm not sure about that one. I'm not not sure what's happening I can't imagine dating when plus 50 percent of women Lib women report having at least one mental illness per pew research Uh, interesting that is a true late I don't know You know what maybe that just spices up the love life. I don't know I'm an alabama wingman and I want to be free. Hell with the w double acp also high rags Hello I don't know what to make of any of that wingman. I want to be free. Hell with the w doubled acp I am an alabama wingman All right It crowded better understanding of the internet than this show does deleting yourself from the internet. Good grief. Have a good week massive Wait, does someone delete themselves from the internet and uh, how can the winter soldier or is he talking about age of ultron? I can't remember. Um well Yeah, I just I just can't remember what what that's a reference to Ross one medal of honor walker three medals of honor referencing civil war I wonder how roads would have felt about walker. Where's war machine anyhow? That would have been a way more interesting Uh interaction to have I think roadie and walker Um, maybe we'll get in future. I don't know after Sam gets Sam gets Lamar is like what I was your wingman Oh, well, I don't think that Lamar would care about that because he's asking for more wingman You can have more than one Black crow cacar Stay out of the parking lot All right One of these ones just because that's not an emote. That's just a weird thing being said Uh falcon is a key hunt for getting mad at the kid after he calls bucky white panther I don't remember that happening Kid called bucky white panther I remember having a discussion about him being called white wolf or whatever Uh Yeah, I guess I never read too far into that Can we call fringy black fringy? No green fringy. Yeah, it would be green. It'll be green fringy because he's green Uh, remember in civil war bucky tanked past Tony natasha t'challa and steve with ease But in this show he's outmatched by a Wakandan guard lady. Of course, of course Yeah, they're just the best Really good First Avenger or winter soldier, which is better discuss First Avenger, uh first Avenger First Avenger is like first half is really bad pretty damn strong from what I remember Very straightforward I believe one vial was stolen when steve got the serum And he also gave a few vials of blood to help reverse engineer a copy of the serum That one vial getting stolen got um Unstolen though didn't it because he grabbed the guy and then the guy took a suicide bill. I don't think uh They managed to steal it after I have to rewatch first avenger Another huge the guy who made the new serum was told by the us that after the alien blip didn't care about the serum anymore Oh, right. Yeah, he says like production had to halt because he was blipped it's like Wouldn't Whoever's organizing this project have just gotten a different scientist or is he well They do say like he's the only one that can do it, which I don't really believe to be honest with you Especially if um, it's a scientific process so You can obviously teach people it and if they don't have them under cameras The scientists watching him it's kind of like breaking bad where you can learn waltz process And when people do well it becomes less special Um, and you think they would just hold that out as a contingency or something. I don't know He probably think he had a lab assistant. I don't Maybe he did what he could to make sure that he was the only one who knew it to keep himself valuable I feel like if you're dealing with the organization that we were told you was dealing with which At the time was I guess the government Um, I can't remember anymore is it Is it the government or is it madropore? He's in he's in madropore when he's doing it, right? I have to give it the eye rewatch Um, what you're explaining is what happened at tusk could Tuskegee This was world war two to ski This is world war two segregation was still around MLK didn't happen for about 20 years later Um, I'm afraid I've lost the context on what that's a response to The general public didn't know who the original ant man the original the wasp or the captain of marvel where what the fuck is the show? Um So the general public didn't know who the original ant man wasp or captain marvel where the fuck is the show But what does that have to do with the show? The problem I can't Figure it out I mean, you're right. Most people don't know who the original captain marvel ant man or um, who was the other one? Oh, right. Well, wait Original captain marvel. There is no original captain marvel in the mcu No, um Oh, but are they talking in universe or like in terms of the world, you know us meta I assume they were talking about in universe because they were obviously ant man was around as michael douglas And so was the wasp Oh, I see I got you. Yeah, and yeah, those those hadn't gotten any uh Sorry me man The more you expand it and and realize like all this cobit shit was happening everywhere with billions of organizations And and then when their movie rolls around they're suddenly really fucking stupid and can't keep secrets Yeah, as soon as the cop car scene was over I immediately dropped the show and cancelled my dog shite plus subscription I hear that a lot whenever one of these shows comes out people like I am canceling my subscription Yeah, their subscription numbers keep growing every quarter not just that just why you why were you subscribed up to this point? Haven't you seen the other things they put out? If if that's enough for you to unsubscribe I mean And I got everyone's got their own personal breaking points, I suppose So bucky had antler dialogue for the therapy scene He says a lot of how he's feeling directly. It's kind of annoying, but they only had what time for two therapy scenes, so It's not like that has the hours to work with A lot of shows do the thing where they they give one therapy scene per episode and it usually relates to the current dramas But it's also building toward a big payoff of some kind But we just rush through that ship As a white guy who got frisked by a cop for weapons and doesn't hate cops It annoys me when people use these mundane interactions with cops as examples of racism um You can bump into pieces of shit people Um and they can make it about race or whatever. It's just that it uh Unfortunately can feel very pandery um in a lot of ways Uh, yeah, just feels a little bit hollow In the show anyway. Hold up. It's not like that scenario couldn't be presented in a way that makes sense in the story Yeah, they Present it in such a ludicrous way that it just is like, what do you what do you this is? Uh I can see the strings Yeah, it hurts your message of anything because people think it has to be cartoonish for that to happen Uh Finally remember this meme john walker's intro is the embodiment of the new guy meme of 2020 all the way up to sam and bucky's attitude toward him What do you mean like they introduce a character and it's like look how shit this guy is and we're all like this guy's kind of cool All right, this guy is really nice. He's actually kind of great He doesn't do anything wrong Like socially and they're they're they're fucking cruel and bullshit to him Just because he's been given the task by the government to help people You know what I mean? Like when you broaden it out like that Oh, it makes it really hard to like sam and uh and bucky But the show is completely unaware that that's even happening or it's a possibility Like no the audience will side with sam and bucky every time we know this So I was shooting aliens and outriders who wanted to eat my friends and realized are they evil? Maybe I'm misunderstanding them. Are they black? I I I don't know. I've never played the games It wouldn't know but um Hey, there's plenty of opportunity to Misunderstand the intentions of an alien force uh We saw this in vietnam I didn't get any reaction for that. That's such a great reference I just watched alien 3. I love it and despise it at the same time. Help long man Tell me your opinion on the movie so I know how to feel uh There's a lot I like about alien 3 um But premise is it just pisses all over aliens for some reason Like sorry to the cool characters you like who meant a lot to Ripley are just dead now Um Short list of people who have tried to move borders to varying degrees of success Vladimir Putin, Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler I'm sure the list goes on much further than that Hmm build back the great wall better matters What a slogan It's confusing a little bit When Thanos snapped half all living beings away Didn't that include half our food like cow's chickens veggies, etc Wouldn't be we back at square one with half the resource and half the people No No, we don't talk we wouldn't be back at square one. We would be square fucked at that point. Yep. We're just over Half the people and half the food sources collapse. We're screwed. We're already having a trouble Preserving all the different food industries as they even come close to operating Yeah, it's just we can't operate it off the people It's like the like the unemployment rate is not 50 percent. You know, there's a reason for that um They control banks careful falcon Yeah, we should cancel them Please watch team titans go to the movies after the dceu. It would be a good pilot cleanser um well I don't know what we did for a pilot cleanser after I would because we're on like a dc break, but um We've still got we got a whole bunch coming. It's on there on the way Because we're mostly up to date except for shazam Um, I think so. Yeah, same the only one we need to do right? I believe so Yeah, which is crazy because you think well, he would have been more by now right if not for the delays Um, yeah, it would have been problem. Uh, no, I don't think so. Oh, maybe Okay Maybe Real quick when the man Blimeyna bad because boring and not scary fair enough I don't want to seem cynical, but I feel like I have to ask do you think any of this garbage writing will fade away at all We'll always have garbage right now. They'll always be bad writing. Yeah I know it sounds kind of like what but We can't have good writing without bad writing anyway, so Like it's just hard to be good and any creative enterprise. I think Yeah, there is no industry of any kind that doesn't have more bad than good I don't understand how that's even it's just that's just the nature because a lot of scales are going to be created by the potential for human ability like Exactly everything gets scaled down Uh, or up depending on how we're doing really but Um, or rather just that the scale itself will move. Um Because like what is the worst movie ever and I think we we draw the bottom at like, you know, it has to be viewable, I guess at least The best because it's just like there's just not many that get to be in that election or maybe This is where it depends on how we're looking at the scale because like At the same time you could have very few in that selection or like millions and like we're how and it's like Well, because the best at just whatever scores the highest or does Achieves the greatest or is the most popular and of those we have plenty Yeah, it's just um, yeah, I don't know like If the question were more so is is is mainstream Uh sci-fi and fantasy ever gonna be as good as it Was in different instances of time or uh the ip's like marvel star wars star track Doctor who and all that stuff. So I don't know man I think it's a bit stacked against something like marvel at the moment just by virtue of the way that these things are made I don't know why I said by virtue of instead of because I don't know it's probably going to be really hard to like consistently deliver good results When you've got such a tight timetable so much information is sort of kept from individual creators Um, it needs to make a lot of money because it's massive like multimillion dollar productions and that probably just limits the amount of risk you can take Um, and yet if we had 10 more years of things that are as bad as Loki and then the trailer for moon night dropped We'd still probably be like whoa Maybe this one will be good Yeah, there's always potential Whether that's well founded, you know Walker needed scenes failing as cap having the GOV or the government Criticizing him becoming unpopular damaging his marriage leading to him being desperate for the serum not being seduced like gollum in the ring They do rush that quite a bit. Um Doesn't he like he loses a fight and then he's like I want serum now Yeah, like he didn't even stand a chance who's I'm gonna get the serum where it would have been more interesting If it was presented as I need to use the serum I am captain america. I need to I need to be able to do this Everybody's counting on me. Yeah, it'll be more interesting. What are they talking about like having you know general public saying like You're no you're not captain america You're just like a bad imitation and then government being mad at him for failing missions His friends being like the ones that save him In these bites and yeah all stuff like that and then yeah straining his marriage that would be That could be great and he's like I need that serum like I just Well, you know, he takes it without us being told overtly and he starts doing much better Yeah, just just more of a character study would be nice When falcon said to bucky you've got names in those books and I'm sure some of those names only you can give closure I actually said this show thinks I'm an idiot Um He shows do you think you're an idiot? We know that's true, but um, he's talking about he has to go and speak to people whose family members. He's killed, right? Yeah, but yeah the book. Yeah, you wonder about that being like that government sanctioned has he been Do they know he's doing that because the is I don't even know there are issues that may stem from that. Yeah for sure Uh, that prison riot was a perfect metaphor for twitter and bucky making a troll tweet making two check marks start fighting Okay, let's see what you mean I came to hate sam smug face um Sam throughout the mcs always consider himself to be right, I think To be fair when you team up with cap, you're probably gonna feel a little righteous Unfortunately, he's very wrong in his show a lot of the time uh, when you lots What's you lots favorite internet argument line? I was arguing league law when the guy hit a dead end He went this is gonna be great when the next low wave hits in 10 years and you're all wrong Wow commitment right there favorite internet argument line I don't know if they just mean like I don't know one of the stupidest things people said during arguments Uh, oh gosh off the top of my head I don't know. Um, I don't know. It's it's worth incinerating a million people if it means ending slavery That's all we have a yes and thing. Yeah That was fun That's just one of those ones. It's like how the hell was that the thing you guys were talking about it. It's like Oh, did you watch gave a throat? They were better off for Daenerys Um, the comic flag smashers got destroyed by Deadpool like three times and one of them was because they were embarrassed of Getting beat by a clown and went after his daughter Oh, they felt like Deadpool was a clown. Yes All right. Hmm. I guess so because quite the clown I mean the way he's funny, I guess, but yeah, he probably makes some jokes and they're like you're you're a clown you're a clown kind of I mean, yeah, I understand, you know Maybe that's a stereotype plans appreciate like we all funny Yeah, we're funny. Yeah, we're definitely not creepy. You know, we put a lot of work into outcraft I put on the suit. I wear the nose Isn't there that horror movie called clown? We the guys gradually becoming a clown I don't know some people's careers I'm sure it's at a far call Uh, the anime black lagoon showed how a lola city would work better than this. You might enjoy black lagoon. Also, hi rags Hello You massives i'm trying to catch up. I started when you were episode 80 ish from episode one and i'm at episode 67 stupid long man Oh, well, oh my fault It's true. It is not our fault Uh, spider-man showing up at the finale would go well to how he tied He is in far from home my rags hashtag. I walk with walker Yeah, walker's great. Um bringing in spider-man at the end. That was a theory, right? It was it was buzz about that potentially happening in falcon the winter soldier Um It didn't happen As for it playing into far from home Um, fuck. I can't remember the timeline anymore I guess far from home is after because falcon would still just six months after endgame, isn't it? Yeah, I can't keep track of it anymore Isaac and I Hi mauler efap and hi rags Hello Hey Live down under so often miss the streams want to show my support also suggestion for efap movies jupiter ascending It's a trip, man That is a recommendation. I definitely watch that for efap movies. It's already an hour backlog slash to do Uh jupiter ascending is definitely an efap movies movie. We'll probably have a yms on for that because we're sure he finds out Oh, yeah, I did get a review. That was uh, really funny of that Um, how did no one guess brown table sexual harassment? See I have no clue what that's referencing Like nope. It's were we guessing is it I I got nothing Is the boat subplot a forest gump reference? Maybe you can tell you No, I think they just really felt like that was the what they needed to do to Stress the familial situation of this character and their money issues and stuff And so that's what they decided to do with that And how does a bank not account for the blip how? Because the riders are retarded. Well, if you remember there's like a line about how they have but then that just does it just doesn't happen like it Because of shit Wow, the only thing that occurred to me in this scene was is anthony mackey playing two actual marvel characters now Plus this bounty never gets followed up. I'm going broken here Is the implication there that he's so not falcon that he's playing it's not falcon anymore. I guess, yeah It's just some Well, it's like he is a prop for the story that we want to tell and who cares what his story was up until this point Yeah, pretty much because it just never I just never pulled that from that scene in endgame that like that was a thought on his mind I thought it was a pretty straightforward. Oh, this is like a huge responsibility for anybody to take on and I'll do my best Not that I'm I can't because of my Yeah, I'm my being black You kind of a black man holding that shield. Okay I was just never even it's out. It was just never it was never a thing in my mind of like Oh, yeah, that's isn't going to be a problem for him. I was like Why Fucking racist I think that if it were made like 2012 ish where avengers were made Um, I don't think they would have gone that direction at all probably not That would have gone the more normal word of just uh, oh, it's a difficult mantle to live up to but I'll try Any hold up not only in the abilities of but the uh the values of Yeah, exactly. And then the the obvious way to go is like you may not have held up steve's values. We are holding up your value, which uh I don't have to be exactly maybe those values more relevant to the time that we live in Yeah, like You can make it so these facing challenges that steve may have dealt with differently or something But not necessarily in the wrong or right, you know, there's plenty of interesting things to do But instead they went that way and then they did it really poorly Um, it's a texas wedding That's related to wow guys teenagers have been shooting at each other for eons And it's really concerning that you didn't that you imply there should be some kind of legal intervention They're part way teenagers are shooting each other in this Show Carly was a teenager, right? But I guess she was shooting other teenagers was she was she a teenager? I can't remember. I think she was like 19 I'm pretty sure sam called her a teenager like oh next time you're not gonna have to be dealing with like a teenager or be someone um even more of insane or like more capable Who's he saying that to? Oh, he when he was doing a speech about how they got to do better Well, they already dealt with zemo was the one before her technically. Yeah Yeah, he's like a fucking 40 year old so And also I guess it's just annoying to downplay the amount of damage carly did she killed a lot of people She nearly killed all the senators. Yeah, and remember her reasoning was just Violences all that they listen to or whatever. Oh, I understand. Like, you know what? I doubt that's true um But hey, I don't know if it's not true. It's just It makes her look awful that like if you had scenes where she they're trying to break in they get caught And then someone like pulls a gun on her and she shoots them before they shoot her that sort of stuff That's one thing. Yeah, but instead they have her like she's tied these people up and then she fucking blows them up You had what you wanted the threat was neutralized. You did not need to do this, but you did Just because it's awful. She's a villain. A horrible person. Yeah Sharon got blipped apparently No, she didn't right How could she have He didn't and then she because she said that everyone left her behind which is fucking baffling by the way Yeah, that everybody just abandoned her and even falcon like apologizes for that and it's like So You want me to believe that just everyone just forgot she existed how You know, it was super helpful in civil war like It's only lamp shading in us. Well, it's meta lamp shading the fact the writers forgot about it Obviously the writers did they didn't remember Or something that she's like a scroll or whatever I don't it wouldn't matter. She's a scroll. They forgot about it They did that's true. Actually. Yeah Is kum the greatest Retroactive meme watching old e-faps and whenever someone says come I think of jay and metal and then laugh at the brilliance come I mean metal and jay are pretty brilliant. I will say Um, it would be great social commentary if a random black dude showed up and the bartender also assumed that he was smiling tiger And then a third and a fourth. Oh, that was so fucking stupid, too He like He doesn't look or sound anything like this other person, but he wears similar clothing and apparently that's enough to pass Do you remember that shit? Yeah Oh wait, did he look I can't like I remember there being something weird about it sort of looked like him I think which is incredibly convenient is You can't win with that right and wise if he looks like him that's retarded in terms of just like luck But then if he doesn't look like him then you shouldn't be able to get away with it. So Why did you have to write to that way? Why couldn't you've just said you're all visiting fucking billionaires, you know Also winter soldier. I remember when they all record that on phones when he beats a whole bunch of people up And that doesn't have any consequence at all When we were all talking about how that's gonna like that would fuck up wood Yeah Well, look if the government find out the winter soldier is beating the fuck out of people Potentially to death in mad report Which by the way, what do you even know laws in mad report? Was it lawless? It was lawless yet. There was a ton of infrastructure Um, we basically said like there's no fucking way. No fucking way. There's no laws. That's not a You're not gonna away with that. There's got even if it's more All the laws would have to be the laws would have to be at the very least that there is a recognized state with territory Like how are you lawless but have recognized borders that this is the city of mad report? Yeah, and that's the thing if um, it wouldn't matter if he's doing it there or not They would just be like you're going around hurting people. You've breached your uh Whatever fucking that's the other thing. They didn't explain to us what rules that bucky was out on And to be fair the person who should even have advocated for all of that would have been camp We just didn't see any of it No, because he's gone. I don't know if that means he's dead or not though. Nobody does not even the right Um, youtube the final frontier these voyages of the podcast efap It's five-year mission to explore strange new rats to seek out new scripts and new themes to boldly go where no massive has gone before Oh people have been to some of the places we're going but No They will find something new I'm stinky We'll probably be going for more than five years. We're up to four soon. I think right? Yes, very nice Few months Well, I looked it up far from home makes even less sense now because the falcon winter soldier takes place months before it Why didn't Talos call up salmon bucky? Um, I'm not sure how much salmon bucky gonna be able to do with the elementals Yeah Um, like what are you gonna shoot him? And then of course you do have like Maybe I don't know I'd have to check continuity, but presumably they're on missions. I don't know I don't even know who Talos Like what the hierarchy of organizations are in relation to fury and government and you know all that basically Well, uh hard to say right now. Yeah, it's fury beholden to the american government or is he beholden to like cosmos people? I don't know. Um, I have no idea Uh, hey jim. What are the consequences of the flashers time travel? Jim Jim I actually don't know Because that was something that I felt we felt was missing from uh Flash's big moment right the one that everyone loves. Yeah, there's nothing for him to lose. So why not? Mm-hmm Like what does it mean to break a rule if the rule doesn't like what do you lose by breaking it? doesn't think it's it's it's all spectacle because The equivalent if you remove all the spectacle is oh by the way the flash has an auto win button May as well press it. Yeah, it's not even an auto win. It's a retro. You didn't actually lose button It's insane. Yeah, if you're pressing case you lose because then you didn't Um, then of course the comparison to tony and in iron man. He can Sacrifice himself to get rid of that nuke Uh And there's no reason to have thought he was gonna make it back, but he did That's a very different thing and that's the thing if um, that's all they need is a line where it's like If I do it for too long, it'll it'll tear me apart, you know Something and then as he's as he's running you can see him like in pain. Maybe even some effects Regarding like his skin or whatever, but he just gets there And when he when he does it and comes out of the whole thing everyone's like saved And he's just like on the floor and they go oh god barry. Okay, you know and they can You know they can bait us for a minute as to whether or not he's made it Just that's the most normal way to have done that payoff instead. He's just like I did it We win I step them all And do you remember the reaction to that scene everyone was like we were robbed. This was incredible When like I don't think joss wooden would be able to make that scene The amount of cgi they've gone because the justice league cgi was already garbage But um, the payoff doesn't even match the way that the the reset scenes would have worked I think joss this league was terrible too limited resources. So thanos was right Wouldn't that be funny thanos versus carly? She'd win Hey jim quick thing. What do you think of the consequences of flash's time travel? Who's who's jim? What's happening? Where's jim? I legitimately don't know who jim is And someone else said jimothy. What are the consequences of flash's time travel? Maybe this was some kind of meme and I've completely forgotten what it was Maybe I legit cannot remember You lie turkish delight is six out of ten not worth selling your family out for I mean, I like turkish delight. You guys like that? I don't think you've ever had one Maybe six out of ten really does kind of match how I feel about them actually They're okay. Like they're not they're not they're not bad. I think they're more than mid, but not much more Yeah What are your constitutions to sonics flash travel? jim kizama What is happening with the superchats? Uh Does sonic have time travel? Uh probably speedster. I just can't think of any examples of it. Yeah, I don't know any of them Uh Did no be made an unbridled rage on the first Jurassic Park movie to make fun of you Um And your terrible criticisms on fallen kingdom Dude, I've had people many people over the years. Tell me that I'm completely wrong on fallen kingdom That's totally fine. The fallen kingdom is one of the worst movies. I've ever seen in my life. It is Top tier garbage It's a joke like as Soon enough we will get back into the Jurassic vibe. I imagine when dominion hoops out. Yeah Oh, yeah Oh boy Uh, yeah, I don't know like a lot of people like fallen kingdom apparently which is nice Hey dinosaurs are in it Oh, yeah, that's true Should have should have considered that in my assessment Well, did you know But it makes sense to use dinosaurs in combat because rats were used in world war two Oh No, those make sense. Yeah, of course Why It sucks if like I think people listen out like yeah, of course dinosaurs as well. It's like no You know what tanks jets pretty good and they're you know, they're flown by people who are like rational and you can talk to and communicate Compared to a t-rex don't take many resources to maintain No, they know you just give them a normal amount of food You put some petrol in in there and you do your maintenance on your vehicle is there expensive as an investment? Oh, that's another thing. Yeah, the human dinosaur the human that comes with the jet can repair They'll they'll likely know how to do that in that crazy I can do things other than just fight. Yeah resources And they're not gonna randomly try to eat you which is nice Remember the fucking guy who wants to do it the first movie. He just gets like tore apart by the velociraptor. They're great The movies always feel the need to be like, yeah This is like, I don't know man He's getting eaten to death, you know, it's a little bit uh, oh boy um What are the gyms of flashes consequences? Yeah, something to do with gym. This is a meme that I have simply forgotten Hey, jimmy christmas. What are the consequences to flash doing the thing where he travels through time? A lot of people asking this question to jim and I just don't uh, I feel bad I guess I wouldn't want to be jim right now because it almost seems like they're making fun of him Hope I'm not yeah Yeah, jim fuck you uh I know this doesn't fit here, but flash time travel consequences Not the nightmare scene because wasn't dark side gonna go to earth anyway and flash still time traveled there too to warn bruce. Sorry Uh I'm guessing that's a different instance of time traveling when he goes and warns bruce, right? Yeah, that was in batman vs superman. You remember? Yep. I remember it really doesn't make sense anymore. Yeah, maybe if I'm really cryptic Uh, it's this was yeah You were right about him fear him. It's like thanks bro. That helps I'm mad man. I'm right about a lot What? Yeah fear him. That's an interesting way to put it, isn't it? It's gonna take over the world and turn evil flowist eyes uh I heard that it might be like man, it might be worthwhile to eat him like how unstable are you? I'm from the future lowest dies it makes superman go nuts Bye I just wanted to tell you what happens. Yeah, hi, it's me berry I can tell you something that only we'd know that would mean that you could be able to trust me if that was going to be an issue Yeah, like this is a really important message and you're really bungling it We're the bottom of the rung tell that to thanus is snapped dust also do better Okay, you've got to do better thanos. Yeah snap them all Well, that was what he decided after uh, he realized. Hey, you know what people actually don't like dying So i'm just gonna delete the whole universe and start over again Jimmelbow, what are the consequences of flashes time travel? I hope he knows man Maybe just figure it out in the year between I hope so. I know that if I want something done quickly and efficiently I'll want a global government think about going to the dmv for the world um I mean after the blip makes some sense, right? The everyone's gonna want lots of policies to be enacted and Of course, that's the funny thing about all of it is that what the flag smashes want is essentially what the the government is trying to do But they explain like it's very difficult Well, yeah Well, I guess how how interesting is it though as well considering that the show released in the midst of a highly disruptive global event That compared to what the snap was in universe It's like the snap is considerably more catastrophic um, and yet there's like absolutely no consideration for how complicated at all is the nature of like power and political institutions and upheaval and like what it stems from and why and There's just no exploration of that meaningfully Even though it was right before you it was I guess it was started filming before the pandemic happened But even even without a pandemic it should have been pretty clear to you that um That the snap is a big deal A big deal much bigger deal than they made it out to be I know this dream is going long, but can you explain the difference between a witch and a wizard? I am very confused No Just just go to the internet. Just have a good look around Jim Kazama Oh, wait, we're at that one. What does the milk doof jim flash time tismo flutual Oh All right The artistry What do you think the social environment of america would be like today if obama's first act as president was to give everyone the n-wit pass Oh, nice. I think we'd live in a better world. We'll peace we get that out of the way Everyone would get over it pretty quick It'd just be part of the world And uh, maybe they're great Yeah, i'm seeing this next one and it's again referencing the whole jimmy and the flash Yeah, i'm i'm lost on it. I'm almost certain it would have been some big meme that we were all on board with but All of us are blanked of it Unfortunate, but uh, you know, it says it says jimmy why my peepee herty from flashy timey is Yeah, I have no idea what these are Oh Don't you get it? That would be an outside effect to time travel. Like oh, yeah, I can try time travel But my my peepee really hurts after I do it and I'd really rather not Oh, so what made me aware of a thread today about um I decided to cut video and it was a thread of counters because my video is terrible and uh When I said there's no consequences for using time travel Therefore there's no stakes because you can just the auto win button. They said yes, there are he has to eat A lot when he does that Oh, you should you should have just not said anything you should have not said anything The funny thing is that doesn't even happen in this like not that I would expect him to do it, but like He doesn't pull out a lunchbox or anything when he's uh Oh, so stupid, but yeah, I think my group over to afford to buy food Like one of the stakes he needs to eat. Okay. What's stopping him from just doing that And it doesn't seem to be the kind of I need to eat the you know He's like dying until someone gives him a chocolate bar or something. He just yeah, like I'm hungry now Well, I mean now we're thinking about it What if the consequences were that his metabolism is going so fast that it starts to eat away? It is like muscled and um, that would be great because it would be you know He's actually deteriorating and then that might be more meaningful because it means that he might need to trade his life to do this and also that he would need to be fast enough to get there in time Before like, you know, he withers away that would be a meaningful steak not oh, I need to eat a steak God damn that was a lot of energy. I just burnt there Oh, no, I need to eat a steak What's the thing in terms of uh repairs this is this is an easy one because it's just like why didn't you do this? This this payoff has happened a million times where to save the world It's gonna cost your life or it might you don't know that it won't like that's that's so normal What are you doing? and I actually think that because of The meta of film if I may say um, a lot of people probably interpreted that scene that way when they had there was no reference to any of that You know, like he's desperately just trying to get to the location. He's to go because he's to touch the the cube, right? That's the how it ends Something he touches something at the end No, wait, that's the first time he does it. What does he do at the end of this one? In the finale, I can't remember he like reforms the path as he's running and then He rewinds time is the important part, of course Because even superman got disintegrated it was it was super scary Don't you get it captain america is one for one with superman and since cap didn't travel the world 24-7 saving every single human being all the time. He's a horrible human. I again raggled Hello one for one with superman Like 19, uh, they are the original when he turns back time by spinning around Or are they just saying that he's a parallel, you know, they're both kind of meant to be the uh, like paragon heroes I guess so, but let's see one of them's powers are a little more than the other Uh, why be the flash through jim's time? No, no idea Why are we jim just to suffer? What? I picture there's gonna be a top comment on this catch up this like they forgot the jim meme Yeah, sorry. We did we forgot the jim meme Uh, it just eludes me Time travel what a consequence is flash using jim These are all real super chats. I don't know. I just And why did they come up with a falcon with sojack? Yeah, I don't know. It must have been some conversation we had about jim the flash and some other stuff Is the jim's of the flash do limits? Why are the consequences of time? Hmm No got nothing for you. Yeah, I don't know what to say. They're lost Um The jim is how it be to flash the quote Nothing on that one either. Yeah No, sorry Jim harper mac cut them down dutch a predator reference that involves the weird jim. All right I get that one half of it anyway Um I'm really proud of this community and jim's answer to flash's time travel consequences Maybe jim's like a super chatter or something maybe oh it could be that could make sense I was about to say is there someone we've covered with the name jim At or someone in yeah, maybe someone in chat Said something said some comments about it and we highlighted it. We talked about it perhaps Now people are given jim the time Do you guys missed out isaias says the nurse declared him dead to escape No way the government just lets the dead body go missing. They'd test it I thought she had a fake body or something someone else was asking us about that in these super chats I'd have to check again, but uh, it's not just they wouldn't let a dead body go They wouldn't let the dead body of the fucking captain america clone You don't know what you can do with that blood or you know any anything and also just You know secrecy. He's a very special body at that point Yeah Every night I beat off to the thought of jim answering what the consequences of flash's time travel are Hmm all right I hate how bucky has the attitude of someone raised in the modern day and not like someone raised in the 30s and 40s They never quite Utilize any of that no To be fair his His life has been it's a little bit unclear. What we know is that he was woken back up at several points in history, right? Yeah, but I'm late to do missions. No, of course, but it's just uh, what even is the mind of a person at that point I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, maybe there's like a total mess I mean in a better show we would have uh in a better show. We would have gotten this kind of exploration Um gym release the consequence cut of justice league I agree I hate how bucky. Oh wait, sorry Of all the ip's out there This is the that should handle socio-political issues, but it really drops the ball technically undermining any significant message Didn't have to Do that if they wanted to focus mainly on like bucky and falcon as people in this world without being a backdrop But it did seem like they wanted to make that a focus and it's like all right then Let's do it and then they did it horribly Well, yeah, because if you're gonna make it a focus you can't like half-ass it You need to meaningfully explore a lot of these geo-political consequences and everything But it's like you want to get points for dabbling in it But you don't want to put in the work that's necessary to fully explore these themes pretty annoying Yeah, and super soldiers are becoming a dime a dozen Yeah, like well, I mean at this point when we talk about scaling in the mcu like the number of incredibly powerful agents in this world like considerably fewer really powerful agents warranted the sycovia chords now It's like who have we added since then like captain marvel who was like One of the most if not the most powerful people in the mcu who was like active in the somewhat active in the affairs of earth Yeah, um, I guess dr. Strange has sort of become more Known in that time. No, he was after civil war actually Yeah, and he's like one of the most powerful beings in that world Of course like wonder stuff to do with her was kind of what prompted the accords in the first place And she's even white. She's like she's more powerful than she was back then Um, and there's probably a bunch of me even forgetting one and then I guess as well It's like well, how do we now that we know that Wakanda is a highly advanced civilization? Like what is their role now that they want to integrate more into you know the broader Landscape they kind of tease that the end of black panther. We haven't seen anything about it since Like it's as if they don't exist again Well, imagine how much worse everything's going to be made by uh black panther two and they try and establish What Wakanda's doing in relation to the world And plus there's no way that I handle that well Plus at lances apparently. Yeah, so Yeah, oh god, we've got too much too much A little bit and then once we got now we got egyptian gods of real and greek gods of real Um hashtag jim knows no consequences All right Because of the hail hydra scene in endgame shouldn't hydra think cap is hydra agent and be no cap knows There are agents in shield and be more wary of him making the elevator scene and went to soldier dumb A different timeline now. I guess it's how they dance to that Obviously They tell us that as long as they put the stones back in everything goes back to normal Which is just not at all how that would work Uh, no because you you've you've made changes All of them think cap is fucking pro hydra like in the avenger in 2012 like that's gonna fuck everything up Well Unless we're meant to presume that the tba somehow fixed it But then the problem is that the avengers were completely oblivious to the tba's existence And it also means I guess the like it keeps contradicting itself because it's like is the ancient one correct Is bruce correct is like who's who's right on like how the time travel actually works? I just don't think about it. That's that's it. Just don't think about it That's not fun though. Don't think about it. It's it's cool when you can think about it And it just sort of expands and balloons and gets more interesting Um, you know what they are jim. I know the truth All right Hello to anyone still in the call Oh, yeah, yeah But especially ruggles That's nice. Oh, hi I like to nominate the plan of the apes movies for efat movies after you do the war movie series you got planned Oh, yeah, that's that's still well on the way isn't there actually Still getting there you don't you worry it's cooking. Um Um When jim. Oh, well, sorry, uh, as for plan of the apes do they mean the timber one? Because I can see that working maybe for efat movies, but I don't know about the the three I don't know about the ones or the new ones Yeah, I'm not sure about that But uh, we'll see When jim arose from the mud He knew the answers we need to tell us we need him to tell us Okay All right Sorry if this is a repeat, but uh, the door in melange sound like a hotel name Kinda sort of yeah Um, remember when black panther was arrested in civil war for interfering with foreign affairs? Yeah, well, that's just not how it works anymore. This is what I mean That was part of what was annoying me about that scene was like Your Wakandan leaders would be pissed off if you were doing this by the way So what exactly do the door in melange just don't give a shit about anyone else they rule themselves They not have a king what is what is t'challa up to at that point? Well, yeah, they just Three they can sort of do whatever you want and there's no oversight from within their own man If it was weird because like t'challa was in favor of the accords Yeah Miss longbow a new manifestation of awesome. Hi I'm sure it comes appreciate that No, there was no oh, I didn't want her to like fart or anything. No Oh She has fans that don't want her to do fine or whatever. I think You're with them in a way on far related fans I call upon the power of the quote to battle the gym of the limit all right Remember the back in the day when people regularly walked around with sword like weapons displaying an empty open hand to someone in a trust movie Is a trust movie. I oh trust. Maybe they meant trust. That's where we get the handshake. Yeah Oh, because um because walker puts his hand out to um On a way he puts his hand on on his shoulder, which is too aggressive And so she has to kill him Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right. That's a great scene here in this place. Yeah They but they oh, they not only try to kill him, but they also try to kill Lamar too Yep, and uh And they're just they're quick and enjoying it for a while even though Yeah uh I like how when they're like, hey, can you not kill them? And it's like, oh damn you damn you bucky For interfering. Yeah, they condemn him for that. It's like what? It's like, yeah, how can you possibly condemn them for that? You attacked them for no reason I don't know man. That's a grace. It's a it is a salt. Put your hand on the shoulder Oh I think they were well within their rights To execute them. Yeah. I'm sure that's Wakandan law like It'll work out Um keep in mind the fans sent death threats to walk as actor, but unironically enjoyed this stupid scene That feels like one of those are you incapable of separating reality from fantasy? He's an actor I don't know we say that especially with the the choice there of where they choose to get angry Yeah, a little bit like I'm told to get angry at this not the other thing. That's what they do Um lemar. I'm three days from time at walker. Man. I love my kids Yeah, I I don't really have an issue with the aspect of It like, you know, if someone said like they clearly gave him to to walker just to kill him So it would make it sad. I should be like, I don't know it makes sense to have a partner and the guy is like Yeah, he's pretty normal. Pretty normal guy Yep He got less fanfare in terms of like, oh man, isn't that sad than kali Even though he was a hero. Yep Died saving his buddy Dominic the donkey points out kill monger a normal soldier killed One of these dora yet the dora can fight on even ground with super soldiers Well, I guess the thing is is I always I kind of had the impression that like whatever the the black panthe juice was was more Potent and powerful than the super soldier serum. Presumably. Yes, but I would also say that not not usually more star Strictly like like winter soldier didn't lose to her. She just took his arm off because she has like Because you can do that. I don't I don't really see that. I don't think it's even really possible We'd be like can that win against cap it's like I mean Like she's she's very competent. Um, but cap is also very competent and a super soldier so it's kind of I don't know that like a normal person could ever expect to win against Anybody who's on the super soldier stuff And I don't think walker had his super juice at that point No, no, he didn't have his juice in that fight So the dora melange beat three soldiers, which is still something of an annoyance, but whatever like, uh Just falcon lemar and walker with a shield should be able to do something but they're all Handled pretty easily by the dora melange Who probably should have black panthe juice I go over this in my video. It's Well, yeah, it is the thing of you have a but now I guess there is no more black panthe juice, right? They all look what flowers got burnt. They can make up whatever they want They can see what I have to write because I gotta find someone else They probably wouldn't want it to be gone now because they want to have their own Well, they once I because when I was saying they got have another one. It's like you don't need to necessarily um But like of course, there's going to be another one. Um From baku, right? You got it. Uh, that seems to be yeah, probably was gonna be surey, but then um, yeah Yeah, they'll figure something out Yeah, there was some hidden in the forest We didn't see them before but we're okay Why would it even make sense for kill mongers at like surely if he wants black if he wants like um, Wakanda to be a persistent Sort of a controller of the world wouldn't it make a lot of sense to make sure that you can continue the black panthe lineage Rather than having it end with you. Well, like why would you destroy them? Why wouldn't you more freely disseminate them? If anything if you want to go to the world No, it's like with these fears Will be fine, you know Additionally, that's what they did therefore they will not even care about tradition really that much. I thought he was much more pragmatic Wow, I don't know about that. But like, you know, at least he had a goal in mind That was a lot more important than anything to do with like, I don't know tradition I mean what would yeah The throne room has been topped in horrendous action scenes by fatwas Um, I'm sure they're out the terrible scenes that have been like throne room in the interim. I can't think of them right now, but Yeah, marvel are really good at making terrible action scenes I remember they really are In the first episode of hawkeye it really was like The the fight scene was is like man. This is uh, this feels rough even by like marvel standards I remember I remember having that impression of it. They're their fight scenes are just nonsensical Here's y'all been working 12s and there's only one podcast that caters to my need to fill the dead air during work Oh nice And hey the longer we go the more you can just like be like oh shit I guess uh, when I when I if you did a rewatch you'll be like and take me a year to catch back up And then a whole bunch of new episodes will be available because it's everything's so gosh darn long But then you've forgotten about the old stuff so you can rewatch that Then you can dip the the old toe into into the super chat catch up ones or the the movies And everywhere the the the most watched ones are the main podcasts But a branding must be a thing, you know Walker did nothing wrong I mean you could probably tweak some of the actions he takes but uh, I defend the sentiment Certainly didn't do anything as any more like Significantly wrong than a lot of what the heroes in the mcu have done without getting punishment like So much that all of them do that The shows just choose when they will care about it. Uh, is this not the same thing as dooku and anakin though? Um Also if anakin when he grabbed the dooku's lightsaber chopped off his hands spun around and dooku went You know no stop and then anakin just chopped the head off. I don't know it would be as explicit but um Especially if dooku had just killed obi one as well um And the dooku. Well. No, sorry. It would have to be the dooku didn't lose his hands As well, and you still had a lightsaber available like you still do whose threat level is Trying to uh, make it comparable to what happened with um, walker. Yeah Yeah, because the reason why it's the reason why the dooku one is like, oh boy is because he's incapacitated Like he has no capacity to harm you anymore. You got him This is just an execution Um, yeah, the problem with the the other one was that it was in the heat of battle Um, this dude is a super soldier who was not like incapacitated. In fact, he kept trying to get up Um, he kept trying to run away Like that was wasn't that and also he was the guy who just held you to try and get you stabbed That was the guy wasn't it? There's a lot of elements to it, right? Like one of the things to remember is he had recently attempted reattempted to You couldn't definitely argue hurt to kill. Um Walker when he threw he threw like a drinking fountain at him. It was all concrete because he's super soldier Yeah, he wasn't a super soldier that might have fucked him up Which I and he didn't they don't know that. Yeah, they didn't know that at that point. Um He said I don't think they did I'd have to rewatch this. He's still actively trying to get away He's not the only time when he's like, oh no, don't hurt me He doesn't even like properly surrender. And then there's a course. He's just like this is the thing We went over this on the stream But there's then there's the factor of you're heading into a public plaza these these people in these scenarios are very likely to take a hostage It should be very very bad It's um, he's super dangerous of whether or not he has a knife or a gun. He's uh Well, he's a super soldier. Yeah, um And then of course, he's he's recently executed when he uh, when the members of your friend Yeah Well, he didn't do it but he was part of the group that did it because him saying it's not me It's like I don't know what the hell like what he held them didn't he? He held yeah, he held walker, but he didn't he didn't specifically kill Lamar. He's like, oh that one It's like I understand there is a difference However, if I hold someone down so that you guys can stab them I feel like I should be able to be considered someone who killed them Yeah, pretty much me. I feel like that's beyond just a complice like you were actively participating in it because If you guys like if you guys were just swinging axes over and over and over and over again And then I pushed someone into that sort of thing that there's essentially no difference between those two things Um, and I think in that scenario people were like, oh, you definitely killed him that time And I'd be like no, that's kind of killed him both ways, didn't I? So, yeah, I don't know. I don't I hate the idea that he's like it wasn't me some fucking Bullshit um Only a fucking child could even potentially fall for that Yeah, Dooku's got his hands chopped off. He lost his lightsaber and he's clearly like inactive Yeah And they're why they do that scene Anakin has a little bit more time to think about it than walker did walker didn't have like time Really? I'm like, I said He's the contemplated in in a court. It would totally be relevant that he's incredibly emotionally breached as well Like he's uh, what's the word? But the dude like not 10 seconds earlier the dude threw a water fountain at him And he kept trying to run away. He just kept running He and then he kept trying to get up Um, so yeah, uh, because obviously we had I think it was cosmonaut that said there was no moral downside to Anakin just cutting Dooku's head off. He was fine with it like um Maybe if Dooku got some robot hands out of his pocket and then he could become a threat, you know Do you cap might have killed Tony in civil war if he killed Bucky? Maybe I think that would be something that you could experiment with to try and push cap to the edge Gotta use blunt force trauma so the kids don't get scared I'm actually fine with that. Um Because the the the idea is to show the power of the super soldier serum as well, right? Like she uh, she punched him in the heart essentially, right? Yeah Well punched him in the chest whatever the case like heart lungs Yeah, this a rare moment in the mcu where they showed the actual repercussions of force Yeah, because generally nothing comes of it people just sort of Well, I mean we yeah like and not realizing that if you have that amount of force like localized into a very small portion of your body um, yeah Oh, yeah, sorry my memories of we'll just slip back into place. So Guy who didn't kill Lamar was holding walker in place to be killed Yes, and then then Carly was gonna stab him and then Lamar tackled Carly and then she punched him and killed him Yeah, and it's it's kind of the reason why it's baffling that the terrorists are they like Oh, no, someone died. It's like what what you were trying to do that Like what do you think you're gonna happen like this was your goal That's the reason why that they killed someone who could actually fight back I I guess it that's the reason why it's like really annoying that it's presented as it is It's like these guys were trying to kill them Like this like what do you think was gonna happen? Like of course someone was gonna get killed if your bunch of super soldiers coming in with an intent to do it They remember Gregly they wanted to kill captain america specifically like to create a message of some kind, right? Sure But well, yeah, because remember Carly said I don't mean I don't want to kill people that don't matter Which is a very smart thing to say to walker Like this is what I mean. What do I mean to do with that? Oh, yeah, these these poor people who like apparently it doesn't matter when you kill someone. What the hell What is this see and I could already see like zemo dialogue if you were in the room being like So fucking annoyed that she would have said that Yeah Like the whole point is everyone matters to somebody Yeah, that was that was the whole thing was zemo, right? It's like oh the avengers went home. That's cool But my family got killed In fact, I kind of kind of wish he were in the room so we could comment on that Okay, so an active terrorist who is currently engaging in open combat in civilian populated streets uh CAO literally neutralized a threat Also has a super terrorist doesn't need weapons to kill en masse. Yeah. Yeah, this this it was a big conversation That's the thing that really makes it to where you can't Like if it was a regular person I would say that that change is a good amount Like it was just a normal guy, but like in this case, he's a super soldier. He is the weapon Yeah I mean we saw what he could do five seconds earlier when he threw a giant water fountain out of I just uh, just remember when that scene it happened so many people were like immediately complimenting the show for representing The darker side of using captain america as a symbol By just showing the blood on the shield shit and it's just like Yeah, and it's just a matter of that that shield's been bloody a lot It just wasn't put on there because there were films Like what do you what do you think happens when cap like punches his shield into someone's face? You don't think blood's ejecting out of their nose all over that thing Or like when he throws it at someone's neck Like that there's not going to be skin or like blood getting on it But just any number of the times he throws it at people It's just you don't think about it because they never showed it The next was this didn't cap throw a hydra man into a plane's propeller in his first movie Yeah, that's fine. He uh, he threw a lot of people into a lot of things and blew a lot of things This kill count is pretty high. Um, and it's not a kill count that makes me go like you're a bad person Like no, no, no He's fighting against hydra who wants to destroy the world It's like it it's it's more so just that um, it's annoying when in one instance it like the the universe sort of appreciates I guess in a meta sense like yeah, but like this is a war You know he's fighting combatants But then in this other sense it's like will we have a point that we want to push here Like we have a goal here that doesn't really align. So we're just going to momentarily pretend that reality isn't what it is Look how well it works out Yeah In the scene where zemo kills the scientist the rpg prop they use to blow up the container is not an rpg It's a rocket glued to a sniper rifle lol Is it? That sounds awful, but hey whatever you gotta do, huh Yeah um Amazing lucas just made a video about how falcon when soldier is amazing southport destroy this man on this and snider cut I've heard of amazing lucas here and there. Uh, I feel like He's like a vlogger anything about him. I think or that's the format. Um He recently had a debate with um, eric july over Over Something I think it was The batman stuff with the with what ryan kindle had said Gosh, oh drama never stops A whole year later Um, what you reference in his honor? Oh, no, no, no just the batman was a year A year later it will be a year ago in a year about Thereabouts They accepted a black iron man and black captain america. It was iron patriot Um, they don't remember iron patriot. We don't talk about that But well mcu conveniently forgets about a lot of its history, which is really fucking stupid considering that that history Yeah, but it's it's not it's just that the characters sort of appear when they needed and then they don't when they're not Like that's that's all it is. It's It's taking all of the the benefits the perceived benefits without any of the tradeoffs Which you have to work really hard to maintain continuity Like there needs to just be a guy whose job is to keep track of all of these things who gets contacted every time There's a project who knows exactly where everybody is at any given time I'm sure they're aware that that was a thing they could do but they just decided it's not with it Like, I mean it clearly doesn't matter, right? Like all you need to do is um because I think I think if you were to look now There would be a general consensus that the mcu has achieved what People wanted for a long time, which is characters interacting with each other in contexts that makes some sense But like we kind of we don't really have that um Okay, we have like halfway there, you know, I think they see literally every one of these discussions about continuity and Just maintaining rules in the same way that if they had this incredible grand finale that paid off like everybody's characters and Used all the technology and and whatever of this sci-fi fantasy world and then someone came up to them and said Can't do this your um, you know phase on generators don't actually operate at a 30 spark per minute So that light over there and this extension over here can't be those large that large and that long You have to change them. I think they see it all like that. They'll just be like no Which I guess is really funny because I guess I can see how you would see those as being the same, but they're not No They're very very different. Yeah, you have to try and add a bargain to them Like the whole reason we're invested is because we care about who the Seeing the people that we know to be x continue to be x not randomly. It's random other things But I guess the problem is you look at like like a lot of the hype around multiverse is specifically Oh, who's going to show up on the like Illuminati team? But it's like I don't I don't know what that means. You know, what is that meaningfully? um Like in universe in terms of why this would be the team that that exists other than Well, no, I want to see like Patrick Stewart as Xavier again. I'll Xavier I want to see all of these people. I think I think it is that's what it is I want to see them and I want to see them interact But I don't really care How they got there or if it even makes much sense for them to be there Kind of feels like that's the case It's hard not to feel like that's the case when so much of what's been coming out lately has been very well received And leans hardcore into that problem like civil war was this weird anomaly where characters Like where it seemed like there was a deliberateness in terms of who was there and why You know, we got to take Thor out of play because of Thor exists on earth Screws everything up. We got to get Hulk out of play, but I don't know if we just don't care anymore Huh What kills me is Sam not using his war veteran counseling background to talk to John be there for him But jumping at every chance to forgive Carly aka a terrorist Yeah Yeah Sam's desperate to understand Carly, but he won't give any patience or time to Walker someone who's lived a similar life if not a much more intense one than falcons But who cares right Yeah The writers decided it for it to be that way because that's the thing, you know If we can take a second like falcon wouldn't do that the falcon that was established. No, we wouldn't But the fake falcon in this show would because You just never tuned to do whatever you want But molar isn't the morality of an action based on how it makes us feel Hey, well in a sense um I thought they were going to go the way of isn't it based on whatever the consequences end up being um Yeah, we we talked for all kinds of we knew that when that subject came up I think when we did this coverage it was like right here we go Yeah, it's the bit Yeah, because episode four was when we were like, oh that was painful Yeah In the scene oh wait, sorry Rags so right about the mass effect series preach by the rags I know I've definitely whatever I said There was something there. Hmm Now you think after civil war falcon would want to make sure another hero like war machine doesn't get seriously injured or almost die Do you mean? Well in terms of that would be a big priority is making sure that no teammates are getting harmed Maybe even to an extent that as well. He doesn't care about walker though No, it'll break his arms steal them all They abandon both of them to be killed by the fucking super soldiers remember Yeah, that's a different scene than the one we were talking about earlier Because yeah plenty to choose from Save their life just like oh, oh, yeah, this guy's like you guys would have been dead if not for him Yeah, that's that's why it makes it so much worse If he wasn't there to save the senators, um, he would have arrived too late to stop it from falling Yep It'll likely be dead Yeah uh The fact that she actively tries to stop him from saving them and I meant to feel bad for her Yeah Walker never sat back watching others attack Not that we saw no we got three males of honors. I'm willing to believe that he's a pretty honorable dude Damn like that's never happened in reality like So in uh in the marvel, I think the most someone's gotten this too, I think I'm not sure there is there is a list on Wikipedia How can blue soldiers up with missiles shot a bunch of guys and kick people off bridges and went to soldiers some of which may have been tricked So We'll find because he Are we talking about just like the number of people have been killed just in general Yeah, it's kind of weird that you have this like in this show that has terrorist stuff And it is like following up the captain america film so that we're just like oh, but you know Well, no it doesn't because in the opening remember he kills a bunch of people Yeah, um, yeah Sam isn't virtue signaling with his speech at all like some people have complained what happened with the snap and the blip affected everyone um Not sure which pod you're referring to Well, if it's just a defense of sam speech Sam isn't virtue signaling with his speech at all. I would say he is he's so like the way he's doing it is Good thing should happen to people. That's what I think How yeah pretty much like I don't know how But positive sentiment, but nothing to actually help anybody achieve these things Yeah, he doesn't offer actually anything of substance. He just Says he wants good things to happen for people to me Like that sounds like a virtue signal Because uh, the fact is all of them want that too. It's not like they want to be evil mustache twirling Fucking members of a council that just fuck everyone over like that. Why would you assume that? um But uh, I don't know if it was a pilot defense is saying the snapper and blip affected everyone It's like I don't think anybody thinks otherwise do they That's you by their word Um, I relate to fringy my finger was trapped in a metal door and I got a new game I got a new game a while ago. Love the game my finger hurt a ton while playing Oh, I remember that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's because I uh, I got my Jod on chris on christmas eve while I was playing basketball And then I got a playstation 3 the day after a little big planet and it hurt for like two weeks play through the pain Yeah, I did because I was really excited to get a little big planet for playstation and a playstation 3 um But yeah, that sucked In the opening scene with the helicopters in the wingsuits None of those guys should have been able to air even enter the helicopter because the rotors would have blown Them down and away interesting. Oh, yeah, right. I didn't even think of that because the wind That's a good point. How would you have even remember they wingsuited into the uh into the helicopters? Yeah Physics doesn't exist in the mcu. Okay physics just gets in the way So I don't know if this is true in the show or movies, but bucky was injected with an sh serum Which basically gave him caps powers along with immortality Oh, I don't think they've Said that that's the case. Have they I don't think so. It's just a matter of he was Well, he's the same as cap. He was frozen for a while Yeah, well for most. Yeah, because he only got unfrozen to do missions. So it's why he's still pretty much the same age. Yeah Sam has killed numerous people his suit has rockets. He dropped a man to his death in episode one twice I think could you all see all three of them just murdering everyone after lemar dies? I'm done I could see bucky falcon cap Pretty much any hero in the mcu Going nuts and killing a person if they lost their best friend like it's not even hard at all to imagine Cap is like the only question up. But even then Well, could you imagine what tony would have done like if rodie got killed? I mean we saw how pissed off he was when he thought like when rodie was alive, but seriously injured Well, I suppose then they would counter. Yeah, he'd be wrong for doing that too I mean sure depends on what the music was Yeah, it does depend on what the music was They're very easily led astray They're they're very easy to manipulate. I just need to know if there's blood on his uh, his soup, you know on his uh, yeah um This doesn't feel like connected universe anymore All these stories don't connect to each other and no one acknowledges any of the superheroes And I guess I I agree with you But the thing is is that a lot of people would be like what are you talking about? It's more connected than ever look at how like characters team up and interact I mean, yeah, I think that is a general perception Is that it is more so now than it was before like the comics and that you have characters interacting But the differences that would like the comics seems like it was a lot more frequent Just by virtual maybe even the medium that you you can get exactly whichever characters you need That are relevant to whatever story it is that you're telling Are relevant get it Um, no, I don't actually Yes, like it's like the guy we covered. Yeah Yeah, I know Dodger stream left watched two other podcasts took a shower and you guys are still here. This is why I love e-fap never change Oh, yeah, we got some long boys With more long boys on the way Um When bucky was hydro, he wasn't fighting for himself. There was a film about that too Oh god, is that referencing some kind of fucking thing that they told bucky about him fight him for himself or something? I don't even I just I'm just gonna move right along chairs and tables my two weaknesses iraqs chairs and Yeah, it doesn't ever stop Funny This was highlighted as well like it's so awkward having giving falcon Cap shield because a lot of his combat is like based in the air So they just have to the shield's getting ridiculous He'll like throw it down at someone and always bounce exactly back up to him. Wow Yeah, it's no super soldier serum either. So no super reflexes I'm gonna even think if captain america was flying around that he'd be able to do all that shit It's a bit of an ask that he does it at all. Um, you have to be like He's able to calculate it because he's got great vision and understanding of physics All right. Yeah, wherever he learned that from. Yeah, well, I'm willing to say that it comes with the super soldier serum It gives him heightened. Yeah, maybe Well, yeah, because like some of the some of the shit that he's achieving You know that final episode when he's like flying around Popping the shield out Grabbing it throwing it. I think he threw one. Oh, that was the one. So like he he pops the shield off his back grabs it while he's flying Throws it at the door of the helicopter and then flies through the helicopter pumps the dude out Like god damn If chairs can beat vibranium does that make chris handson an avengers level threat I'd say so Hopefully mysterio can take him out Avengers level threat Is chair summoning wizardry or sorcery? I think that's it's its own sort of thing like Chair chair whispering sort of thing. It's like a whole yeah I don't know what the latin is for furniture. So like I make a point. I can tell you that Yeah, very few have mastered it though. I know that um The shield was able to tank a hit from milnia. So I guess a chair is stronger than that It was a weird moment Yeah, very very weird moment Can stop something the fucking absorb the energy of mjolnir and deflected it back Thor while he was dropping it down Thor Thor using mjolnir And that was that was back when we were still focusing on what those flaws were because uh As much as his first film is about trying to lose the arrogance Like he still got a bit of it in that battle with uh, steven And i man because you know him starting out like my quarrel is not with you And then it doesn't take him long to just be like fuck you like get the hell out of my face Because it's like yeah, because of course, you know a different man, but not a completely different man Later on you people are so petty and tiny. It's like that's kind of a funny thing Yeah, is it There's a thing weeden took I believe he probably watched the other movies in the fucking uh The free bit of edges who knows you wonder about that sometimes uh, how how many of the films have been watched or you know Huh And he he dropped the seeds for the the conflict between iron man and cap You know avengers is weird civil war is drawn back to in a lot of ways But then again, it's drawn back to basically all the films kind of Crazy in that way it builds on all of them and it even takes in the ugly ducklings Um, I need charizard pokemon now. What type would it be? Or fire dragon, right here is odd Oh charizard. It's only artwork for that. It was just charizard, but with a chair head Oh, maybe like furniture type. Yeah decorative. He's a decorative pokemon What is weakness being? Oh fires and mortgages Makes sense like if your house gets repossessed mortgage pokemon taking the chairs Uh I think the chair was cgi the ball was the marco the bat rock kicks for that shot They just failed to remove it and some shots to replace it with the chair. Yeah, I think so Remember that the little ball on the floor Yeah, yeah, yeah, normally they use a piece of tape or something like that, but I don't know Supposed to be brushed out though I wonder if they've brushed out now in the streaming version Oh, I don't know. I can't wait to never find out ever true Probably a mirror ball for cgi effects the chair is probably cgi A mirror ball for cgi effects Yeah, I think they use her sometimes. I'm not sure. I just wonder how I would That's why they're out there lighting. How would it benefit you for the chair? Uh, I don't know how it would for the chair, but I think usually the ball is helpful for lighting You can use it as like a point of reference Okay Cy one of the flag smashes uses a green goblin gas bomb They do I'm assuming you just mean a gas bomb in general not like an actual green goblin one I was probably wasn't a green goblin one Yeah, you worry me. Don't do it Jay long bone was right about the little ball seriously not giving y'all any more money after this. Oh That's okay, though I mean you liked talking the way the soldier. I can't imagine you would have had much fun in this If that were the case, I do not know Um, you've helped me with a lot. I hope it will help with my loss. I'll see you in the vods You're right Do do do Send a super chat earlier about my sick cat. She died of my arms earlier. Oh man It's held it for over an hour patting her in the final moments It was all I could do to come for to make sure to love your peps that's while they're still with you Absolutely Uh Unlisted gang rise up. So sayeth the unlisted man Yeah, because we're getting close to the last few of these now There An armored trucks melt steel beams Well, uh, the thing about the armored truck was just whether or not falcon should have been able to lift it right because it Yeah, um People I think tried to argue that he was the force was going from his jet pack to his vibranium suit to the car Not his arms But uh, I don't know that that one. I think it's just doesn't work. Um Well, you you were saying earlier that you you thought that uh, he had super strength from the suit, right? Or I think that's what we're meant to take from it But like, I don't know why how that would work, you know, because he is just I think we are not meant to think about it Yeah, pretty much Yeah, I I guess we'll see because uh, we're getting a lot more of him Time goes on. I assume we will be Finally catching up on it. I'm at efap 89 at the point where I recognize chat So hi semantic dragon nice to see you on the 70th 70th time also high racks Hello That is a regular for a whole efap Bucky said john shouldn't quote Lincoln Oh, yeah, that was like right at the end Uh, was spider-man captain america in civil war when he took the shield from steve Spider-man captain america in civil when he took the shield from Is that done? Even when john says the Lincoln quote bucky is still a petty and says not when you say it If if you're feeling Feel about it. You can just be like it's just a bit of playful banter But it's just you just want them to give john a fucking break at that point A little bit Damn, I went to sleep and seven hours later. You're still going Yeah, how impressive See you again when I catch up at efap's uh 50 right now Hey about 50 almost three years ago Damn, I must blow. Oh, this one sure is a long man though. I was gonna miss it No, I'm gonna miss it when I saw it was live this morning Yeah It's a long Lamar of us two Hmm Um The only thing missing was sam telling carly before she died. They'll never know what you sacrificed like mona monica told wander in one division Yeah, he kind of did say that though Like he was like, do you know what her cause was do you know and he kept he was really sad to see that she got shot You know, it's all very strange in case no one said the Mavic chair orb is a marker the chair is cgi instead of the actor just kicking the air and risking it looking at natural They haven't kicked the ball. They just forgot to cgi it out when they should have That is Wouldn't it be like easy to make it a green ball at that point instead of because it was a black one, right? Make it super bright so that it is it is obnoxious and you can't possibly forget Yeah And yet Sure serum serum makes you strong, but it doesn't teach you how to fight these people just all randomly know how to fight Um, I'd have to watch it again. I can't remember if they do anything more impressive than sort of flailing around falcon speech it insists upon itself Little bit. Yeah Hey falcon, there was a black man who served and fought with cap in the howling commandos during world war two You don't talk about him Talk about any of the people that break this weird narrative this show was trying to run with Probably with mentioning The only people who called sam black falcon were black I'm not sure what the idea with that was Nobody called him that before that show. He was just falcon. There was no other falcon So there's just no There's no environment in which it makes any fucking sense at all to call him anything other than falcon It's just like what do you mean black falcon falcon says do better to the governments and offers no solutions congrats show you ended racism Well, no, we ended uh inequality In that in it because that's all that's all that shit is about I feel like Sharon and the dawn would get along. Perhaps you can help her confront the abandonment issues and turn her from her evil ways The dawn can help everyone The dawn goes pray with everyone Good lad. Um, and that's it. That is all soldier Super chance Well, thank you all for uh for like giving this a listen. Sorry it took A whole year to catch up on this one. This is the first of a couple of these type of ones We're gonna be making uh, don't know when exactly this will go out But soon enough we shall be caught up on super chats hooray Thanks for listening everybody. Thanks to donations and uh, yeah, thanks for sticking by We'll see you later. Goodbye. See you