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We just got it and we're excited to share it. It's short. Don't worry. And hopefully this works. We searched your family history. Preserve it. Collaborate with your cousins to grow it. Connect it with research from over a million other family history enthusiasts from around the world for free. Welcome to Wiki Tree, a volunteer-based mission-driven community dedicated to growing an accurate single family tree, a tree that we all share. Close cousins on Wiki Tree privately collaborate on profiles of living family members and the recently deceased. Collaboration on deep ancestors is between genealogists who are meticulous about research and cite their sources like historians. Genetic genealogists on Wiki Tree carefully compare DNA to further increase accuracy. All our efforts come together as one on Wiki Tree to be preserved and enjoyed by cousins and descendants long after we are gone. Our community is special because we've grown from the grassroots up instead of top down in a big corporation. This has made our community uniquely productive and enjoyable. We're creating something wonderful and having fun at the same time. Come join us at wikitree.com. So that's just a little bit about Wiki Tree. Would one of you like to tell us a little bit about the your society? Okay well shall I do that? So so um Cambridge Chair Family History Society was formed in 1976 and in 2020 we merged with the Huntington Chair Family History Society and if you're not familiar with the local geography it's the adjacent former county. In 1974 English local government was reorganized and what was the old county of Huntington Chair then became part of Cambridge Chair and quite a lot of the organizations within that area now cover the enlarged area including such important family and genealogical sources as libraries and archives services. We have about 1,300 members across the world. Some live in Cambridge Chair and Huntington Chair like Muriel and myself. Others live elsewhere like Karen and some of them live in overseas countries such as Finland, the United States and Australia and so on and so forth. We have an active committee of about 12 people who meet every couple of months and we have a series of regular talks by Zoom and in person. We have research surgeries which take place in half a dozen venues across the patch mostly on a monthly basis and we have a range of other activities so we are fairly typical of family history societies I guess across the UK. We've recently launched a new web project and one of the things that we are particularly pleased with is the way that people can then search for and search for in later places and also of course by downloads of the records that they want and various other things. We publish a journal once every three months. Some people elect to have it as a print journal, others choose to have it electronically and then Karen produces a newsletter once a month which goes out to all the members who've chosen to take that which I think is about 75 or 80 percent. That's a quick overview. If Karen or Miria would like to add something you're welcome to do so. Other than we also have quite a thriving Facebook page as well which we have also set up a lot of individual groups for various parishes within Cambridgeshire and Huntingtonshire with the aim for people to join them and share their research, their brick walls, their photos, anything they want to share that's about family history in that area and hopefully meet up with other people who are searching in the same area and hopefully the same names so that they can start to collaborate together. Just to add to that actually Karen and I are working on a knowledge audit at the moment which will then allow us to sort of direct people more clearly to potential people that they can link with and help. Oh great. So plenty of things happening there as well. So that's exciting. Yeah it is. I've done it before in my career so but it works quite well. Very cool. Well we're happy to have you with us. We loved the seven people that you gave us to start with. Well you gave us 12 but the seven that we picked to start with in their own right they were all super interesting. Can you tell us a little bit about how you picked them? Well I picked them all and the criteria I think they all ended up being baptised in Cambridgeshire or Huntingtonshire but that wasn't what I actually was trying to do. Obviously I wanted them all to have a link to Cambridgeshire and Huntingtonshire and I tried to pick men and women different eras so that you were looking at different types of records and across the two counties and I did know that you know I made it difficult for you. I knew you were going to find it more difficult with the Huntingtonshire records because they're not really online so you had to be quite creative with finding some of those things and anything that I found that was interesting in any of our other records as well so it wasn't just looking at a census return or a parish register it was looking at some of the more unusual records. Wills came into it a lot I think and marriage licenses and non-conformists so yeah I really wanted to give you a run for your money and a good trawl through all the records that are available. Well it was fun I know they had a good time I know I know there were a couple that were really challenging that we'll look at but they've you know we love challenge so it's called the challenge so that's great well let's get into the stuff then do you guys see that yeah so here were the seven people that we started with this number underneath them is was their cc7 number at the end of a challenge and what that is is we call it the connection count and that is how many people in the tree they're connected to so when we started some of them you know we'd only added their parents to their connection count was maybe three a couple of these did have some things on wikichu already but that's those numbers there the numbers of people that we were able to add or connect to them with so we'll go more into that for each one but that's just sort of a little overview there um this is an example of what we mean when we talk about our connection finder so we have two features on wikichu one is called the relationship finder and you can put in the wikichu IDs for two people and it will tell you if they have a blood relationship and it will show you what that is and who their current answer or who their ancestor is and then we have our connection finder where you can also put into wikichu IDs and it will show you the connection between those two people but it will include blood and marriage relationships so this is an example uh Joan Whitaker was our team captain for the week and Roger Jennings was one of our seven starting people and so she is 22 degrees away from Roger and every time you see a color change is a marriage so there are a few marriages between the two the two of them but this is what we're talking about when we talk about degrees and connection finders and things like that so we took a look um with the seven starting and we wanted to see who out of the seven of them were the closest to each other and these were the three so Roger Jennings he already had some stuff on wikichu and we were able to add a lot to him so it wasn't surprising that he was um one of the closest connected so Roger Jennings and Winifred Fair they were 16 degrees apart and then Roger Jennings and Miles Day were 17 degrees apart and Winifred and Charles Stacey were 18 degrees apart so those were the closest connections between the seven starting people and then one of the ones that popped out to me when I was looking at it was Marjorie Stephenson you know most of them had varying degrees um from the other seven like anything from 16 to 25 but Marjorie who was 24 degrees from Joanna and Winifred and Miles and Charles and um with Joanna and Winifred she was connected through her brother's wife and then with Miles and Charles she connected through Marjorie's mother so it was just kind of fun to see you know she she had all those connections within the 24 degrees and then so every week we do um we call it you know it's our connection finder it's featured profiles that we show and we usually have a theme like artists or something like that and when it's a challenge week we include all of the seven starting people from the challenge so this week you can see on the right here um we try to find notables from Cambridgeshire Huntingtonshire and our main person that was kind of the anchor for the week was Oliver Carmel so this shows the relationship or the connection between Roger Jennings and Oliver Carmel he was the closest out of the seven starting people to Oliver and you can see there's only one marriage um in their connection path so Roger's second great grandfather Joseph Pike married Oliver's first cousin five times removed Lucy and that's how Roger and Oliver are connected so it's just a lot of different ways that you can look at relationships and connections and um you know see who's in their in their connection trail can I can I ask a question there uh um you're talking about sort of degrees here uh does that link in with the the the concept of uh I think it's Kevin Bacon seven degrees yeah it's pretty much exactly the same concept it's how many how many people are between you and another person yeah but but it doesn't it doesn't necessarily follow the that that they're actually related does it it's about which they're linked yeah okay yeah the relationship the relationship finder shows the blood relations yes and then the connection finder will include blood and marriage okay um yeah okay all right um yeah okay that that that that's helpful thank you you're welcome so um I wanted to start with William Wade Ellis I we're going to share a little bit about each of the each of the seven and I did them in the order of the ones that were hardest for us to find to the ones where we could find the most so William Wade Ellis was definitely um a bit of a challenge a little about him for those who aren't aware he was born June 11th 1751 in Ellie Cambridgeshire England to Thomas Ellis and Elizabeth Robbins he was an artist and a naturalist he also traveled with Captain James Cook um on all three of his voyages as a surgeons mate and he had painted different things that he saw birds were really popular for his pain and other kind of nature nature creatures um he was described as a gentle young fellow of good and of good education in 1785 he went to join the Queen Charlotte on a voyage to northwest America but in Belgium he accidentally fell off the mast of the ship and he died so that was his last voyage so one of our members Greg Clark he made these fantastic graphics that you're going to see throughout here um so you can get an idea of where we started and where we ended up so when we started with William we had his parents um and then we were able to add just a little bit on his dad's side um as far as direct ancestors go so we got back to a great grandfather there um and then this is when we're talking about the cc7 and the seven degrees out this graphic will show you the first circle that we start with so here's William and then the green dots are his siblings and the black dots the gray dots are his parents so that's where we started as far as degrees for him we only had the one degree when we finished we were able to add a little bit to seven degrees out so you can see um we added a couple more siblings and then we were able to branch out to seven degrees we added 15 at seven degrees out so we were able to add 67 connections to William within those seven degrees he was definitely a tough one um so who was William Ellis this was William Wade Ellis's great-grandfather he um was born about February 1630 in Sheffield Yorkshire England um he like I said is William Wade Ellis's great-grandfather in 1684 he was the master cutler of Sheffield which made him very influential in the area and elsewhere uh Sheffield was the main center of color reproduction outside of London at the time they were especially known for edge tools knives razors axes and nails and then later they gained worldwide recognition for things like the bowie knives which were mass produced and shipped to the US and are really popular still today um so William the great-grandfather would have been at the center of all of that as the master cutler and then his son William who would be William Wade Ellis's grandfather he was also a color he followed in his father's footsteps and he was a parish clerk and he could read and write right um and then another son of William's Seth became a reverend in that same area and then this is another graphic on wiki tree we have something called wiki tree plus um which you can run all kinds of reports and look at things in a lot of different ways and it can generate maps like this that you can look at um immigration patterns so the maps show the location of everyone who's within the cc7 of the starting person each of those people has a red dot for where they were born and um a blue dot for where they died and then there's a pink line that joins the two dots that's their immigration pattern so you can it's another way to kind of look at that so not too much for William because he was definitely our toughest one and then for fun since he sailed with James Cook I just wanted to share the connection between those two and you can see they are 31 degrees apart and they had a couple interesting characters in there that mentioned family they they had some interesting stories too so that was William did you guys have any comments or questions on him I think you did well with him yeah it was difficult they really really tried they really tried with him and they had fun doing it there was a lot of a lot of the chatter was about you know the Ellis Ellis family and trying to see what they could find Joe did you work on that one for Hilary I didn't know I mainly worked on the Jennings family yeah yeah and I mainly oh tell a lie I would these the one that we finally connected through the peaches because I didn't I did a fair bit of work on the peaches for one of the ones that we couldn't connect up to the tree yeah okay in which case yes I did but only because I was working on the on the peaches you know at the end of the week yeah you can actually see that in this connection so there's William to start and then he married Elizabeth Peaches so that's where the peaches yeah tighten and that's the evidence that demonstrates the move from Yorkshire to Ely is it because the family moved from Yorkshire to Ely didn't it in the evidence you've got there yeah that's interesting yeah so that was William it's interesting they all stayed in England as well apart from William Wade Ellis dying where he did yeah but I think some of them are going to go all over the world oh yeah just some of them it's like whoa all right so that was William then our next one that was also a little bit of a struggle was Joanna Vasa a little about her she was born April 11th 1795 in Soham Cambridge Shire England the daughter and I'm going to say this wrong I'm sure the daughter of Olodah Aquano and Susanna Cullen she was the only surviving child of Olodah and Olodah was a former slave and an anti-slavery campaigner there's not much this known about the life of Joanna she did marry a Henry Bromley in 1821 and she died March 10th in 1857 in London so here's what we started with we had her parents and one of her grandparents and then here's what we ended up with so not a ton more with the direct ancestors but we did add a grandma and some great grandparents on her mother's side and then as far as the connection circles we started with a little bit more for her than for William there were about 70 connections for her already and then we finished that so we added about 300 and she ended with 359 connections so that shows you out to seven degrees you know we were able to add quite a few not in her direct ancestral path but certainly connected to her so I tried to find some interesting people in each of the for each of them to share um Williams Hallows Blackman he was um in a little outside of her seven circles he was actually he's actually nine degrees out but her first cousin John is first cousin John Fitch's married William's second cousin Matilda so that's how they're connected and William was born August 26 1796 in Saffron Weldon Essex England to Robert Blackman and Anne Wakefield he died December 13th 1895 in San Diego California and his obituary was titled the oldest inhabitant and um I think it was Vicki Blanco one of our participants she found this obituary which I just wanted to share because it's it's nice but it's also ironic if you haven't figured out why it oh I messed up on that slide so you won't even know but I'll tell you the mortal remains of William Blackman were placed in their last resting place in Oak Mount Cemetery today hundreds attended the funeral of the centenarian six Healdsburg pioneers all of whom were 70 years of age acted as pallbearers while crowded around the grave of the good old man were many men and women who are looking at life from its west window the oldest person present at the funeral ceremonies was Mrs. L. Tooms grandma Tooms as she's called who is 92 years of age now that Mr. Blackman is gone Mrs. Tooms is the oldest person in the county and feels keenly the loss of her friend and many respects William Blackman was a remarkable man there have been many fake centenarians but the men who live to celebrate their hundredth anniversary are few in number fears still reach that age with health and faculties unimpaired and yet on the 25th of last august when Mr. Blackman had reached the century milestone he entertained a jolly crowd of old folk when was as happy and bright as the youngest person present it was on that occasion that Mr. Blackman and others decided to organize an old folks club these members were to be over 70 years of age and whose object should be to care for those who needed assistance the good old man was the first of 30 members to be stricken from the role by the hand of death and in his passing the city lost a most worthy citizen so nice tribute to him but and don't look at the slide because I missed up the number but he actually died in 1895 he died in december of 1895 so if he actually wasn't a hundred years old he was like shy of it by about eight months so ironic um especially with the obituary that you know that talks about the fakes centenarians but um I suppose it can happen how do you I mean looking at the date there 1796 I mean most records would give a baptismal date not necessarily a birth date I can understand you've got a birth date from the newspaper report but but the the baptismal date which you probably can find in the records maybe sometime after the birth date minded so I mean if he was if he was baptized at about a year of age he might well have been a hundred years old yeah it could have been and then my grandma um our entire life that I knew her we thought she was born in 1925 we celebrated her birthday like that and then she was probably in her 90s when I found her birth certificate of her twin who was born in 1924 and so we were like grandma your mom had a really long pregnancy you know and she so somehow you know she got confused about her life and she was a year off her whole her whole life so it can certainly can certainly happen so here was the map for Joe Joana um a lot of her family you can see traveled down to Australia a lot of her connections ended up down in Australia and New Zealand um in particular Melbourne and Tasmania when you go into wikichu plus and look at these maps you can actually zoom in to certain areas to really see um so there's her for New Zealand and um Australia so quite a few quite a few went down there any thoughts or comments on her before we go to the next one definitely uh so some went to India as well which is uh quite interesting yeah several actually several of these had some that went to from India yeah which was pretty cool I think the uh the English or the British were all over uh India at the time they might well have been working for the East India Company yeah quite good Ben yeah so so would the work that you've done involve looking at the East India Company records sorry none of that um there are some um on um uh find my past um and uh Fibis the families in English society so um so yes yeah that's good probably would have been looked at again it's not one that I I worked on this this particular program that's interesting thank you all right next up is Marjorie Stephenson so Marjorie was born January 24th 1885 in Burl, Cambridge, England to Robert Stephenson and Sarah Rogers she was a lecturer in domestic science and went on to be a biochemist she was one of the first two women elected a fellow of the Royal Society which is an award for individuals who made a substantial contribution to the improvement of natural knowledge with mathematics medical science things like that so she was one of the first two women um elected for that award so here's where we started with Marjorie we had our parents and then we finished we were able to add a little bit more for her than the first two so we got a few grandparents on her mother's side and then back a few more generations you can see on the on her father's side um as far as her seven degrees we started with her parents and four of her siblings her first circle right there um so she had six connections and we were able to get her to 577 connections in those seven degrees and every time we see a gray square or a gray circle that's a direct ancestor of hers that we were able to add yeah so so one of the interesting people in her line it was actually her uncle um Charles Henry Rogers he was born in 1852 in Newmarket in Suffolk Samuel Rogers and Alice Ann Warnes he married Mary Ethel Absalom in 1895 in Essex and then he was a vicar at St. Albans church in West Clifancy which is also in Essex uh the cool thing there is a stained glass window that was given to the church in his memory by friends in the congregation which I should be able to look at here you guys see that yeah you can't make it any bigger but they said that Henry is the one depicted kneeling at the bottom right so down there praying he's down there praying so so beautiful window so if you're in your in Essex go check out the St. Albans church um and you can see the next two in Essex oh no now you'll have to go I'll have to go now you have to go and tell us how was yeah you thought that was really cool that was her uncle um yeah that's that's really interesting about the importance of stained glass windows in family history research and I I mean I both have a personal interest in this and I've have written something about it and not least because of the National Stained Glass Museum in England is in Elie where Muriel and I live uh but but I think it's a very underused resource in family history terms I mean have any of you ever come across any sort of detailed sources that have a discussion of this no I haven't honestly it's not even something that I had thought about until I started looking at Charles and realized you know that there's you know what my grandfather's stained glass window in his memory and and uh his grandfather did too and oh well so um although quite a number of them were destroyed in the war and so oh no the church's were bombed so yeah but it's interesting isn't it and yeah you can see is a nice area isn't it quite near south end isn't it so um uh yeah it's worth visiting yeah yeah yeah you definitely have to keep an open mind about you know what all can help with genealogy and definitely surprising what things can or what you can overlook or just mess if you you know start thinking actually newspapers are a very good source for um dedication of stained glass windows it makes an interesting story and very often you you get a picture as well yeah that's a good idea so there was Charles and then so the interesting thing we found with Marjorie um was that a lot of her family had connections with horses so um her maternal grandfather Samuel Rogers was a horse trainer and a jockey during his career he won the thousand guineas which I believe is like the Kentucky Derby for us in the States um he won that twice in his career once on a horse named firebrand in 1842 and then on a horse named Habena in 1855 I did read one article about him where his style was described as not being shy with the whip so really gung ho jockey um and then on her paternal side her grandfather Robert Stevenson and his brother Thomas Stevenson um were racehorse breeders and trainers and then Matthew her great great-grandfather was a training groom I believe one of his sons was also a training groom but he was a training groom for the Duke of Bedford at one point so it was just interesting to see you know on both sides of her of her family she had the connections with horses so yeah I mean that's interesting actually because the the national horse racing museum is at Newmarket it's just open orders from uh Cambridgeshire and Huntingtonshire and they do have extensive records there it's well worth visiting if you haven't yeah definitely yeah that's good so you can see here um a lot of people were spread around there in England and then a couple came to America to date um and again she had something that went down there to Australia do we know if they went voluntarily or whether they were sent you know it's a good question I'm not sure um I I didn't look at her Australia length but it looks like they ended up down on the Melbourne and Tasmania area too and down around there definitely something to look at and various degrees of being sent as well aren't they one is sort of all three one you kind of opt into like uh joining the navy or something like that some you make completely free choice and some you know you it is done for you because it's the second so that was Marjorie that was the bit that we were able to find her next oh and then this is the zoom done um for her for England so oh so quite quite a lot of movement there then they moved a lot around there and then you can see there's a few who straight out to Austria and Berlin and yeah that's good yeah so that's her so up next is Miles Jeffery game day uh he was born December 1st 1896 in St Ives Huntingtonshire England to George Dennis Day and Margaret Jane Davies uh he was a World War one flying ace credited with five aerial victories he was also a war poet and most of his poems were published post war when the war broke out he joined the Royal Naval Air Service and served as flight commander a lot of his poetry was inspired by the death of his brother Dennis who'd been shot and killed by a sniper in 1915 um and then Miles himself died while in service on February 27th 1918 when he was shot down in flames into the sea about 25 miles west of Dunkirk by a German seat on so I feel for his mom and dad his rough time yeah a lot of parents so here's where we started with Miles we had just a bit on his father's mother's side and here's where we wound up so we'll add a few generations back on his mother's side and then go several generations um on his father's father's side um and then a fair amount there in the middle this is where we started with him and his seven degrees so we had his parents and three of his siblings and then just a smattering of 26 people there and with him we were able to get to 709 connections so quite a few there from Miles George Game Day so George is Miles's grandfather on his dad's side um he was born December 14th 1795 in St. Ives Huntington Denshire to Jonas Day and Francis Game which is where the game came from and I kind of chuckle every time I say his name because it's game day which makes me feel football either football American or soccer you know both George was a prominent farmer around the same time that the Irish potato famine was ravaging Ireland the famine was one of the contributing factors to Britain imposing high tariffs on food exports and a movement began in the late 1840s against those um laws and it caused a lot of debate between proponents of free trade and protectionists George was a noted protectionist uh he made at least one published speech on issue and was considered to be one of the leaders of that movement in that area at that time so that was the great grandfather on his dad's side and then we looked at David Davis who was um the great grandfather on his mother's side he was born about 1797 Aya Hillary do you want to say that? Let's see if I can pronounce it properly. Landusand I think it is. My work pronunciation is not brilliant even though I've lived in Wales for three years or 30 years I mean it's I lived in Wales once and I think that's a pretty good effort to hit it. Yeah most of too little is easier. Yeah I think I could have gotten that one. Um but he so he started off as a grocer and a draper he was working as an apprentice of one of his uncles and then he went on to be a founder of the steam coal industry in south Wales um he got involved in small-scale mining in Rigos and then he moved from here one to a house he built in Blind Gore um he built another house there for his son David who joined him in the business and then another one of his sons became the sales agent um but he lived in Cardiff and so many of his workmen followed him as well and eventually four of his sons became involved and David um established Davis and Sons so I thought well I thought was cool here was that both of his great-grandfathers were pretty influential you know in their different areas he had the one that was the protectionist and then just David who was the you know kind of one of the founders for the steam coal trade in the area. Yeah I managed to find um some things in the Welsh newspapers for this line I think and helped the person who was um researching it who was an Australian was researching somebody in Wales but I managed to find some stuff in the Welsh newspapers which considering the Davis surname I think it was very good. Yeah I think that just I think David Davis was the one where we saw somewhere that he had 10 kids and I think it was Gillian I know there I know several people worked on this but they were able to actually find all 10 children and there was a lot of discussion in our discord channel because they had to just tap into a lot of different records to try and find them because some of them were just living in different places at different times and um but they were able to piece it together and they got all 10 all 10 of them were there and then just for interesting sake uh since he was Miles was an aerial and he was shot down by a German war plane I thought it would be interesting to see how far he was from the flying ace man Fred von Herth Toppen so they were uh they're 21 degrees apart so and you can kind of see those nostiles they have in there that are connecting them so some figure names there and their connection path which is always interesting and then here's his map. Miles had the highest percentage of people who stayed at home and the fewest who went overseas. Like so a couple down to Australia looks like one died down there in New Zealand but mostly they stayed um looks like he had some also in the India area but most of them stayed pretty close so that's Miles and you thought on him before we go to the next one? I noticed um I was doing in the end I had to just put some stuff on on one side because it was all in records that really only we held and just generation after generation after generation they didn't even move out of the town that they were in they were just staying right there. Yeah so yeah I'm surprised to see how much movement there is really. Yeah interesting. Yep it's pretty cool so Charles Stacey was the next one up. He was born January 22nd 1843 in Arith and to John Stacey and Elizabeth Leiden. Charles was a US Army soldier who received a Medal of Honor after fighting in the Battle of Gettysburg in 1863. He voluntarily took a position on the skirmish line to help find snipers that were attacking the Union artillery and even after they pulled back you know their own people from that line he still stayed there um you know trying to to defend and and find those snipers and he was actually taken captive and then held as a prisoner of war. That was Mr. Stacey. So with him we also started with just his parents and then we were able to add um all of his grandparents and some great grandparents and even a couple great great grandparents for him and his direct clients. As far as the degrees of connection we started with a spouse a child and his parents so you had four a cc7 of four and we finished with a cc7 of 1467 so we were able to branch out quite a bit for him as you can see there. So that was fun um this was one of the ones I found he's a little outside the seven degrees too he was nine degrees but he's connected through Charles's sister's husband and Daniel's mother's husband their family's marriage. Daniel also served in the Civil War. He was born January 30th 1827 in Regum, Monroa in New York to Thomas Bingham and Almyra Galusha. He served in the Civil War um he enlisted November 20th 1861 and was Lieutenant Colonel. He was commissioned into the Field and Staff New York 64th Infantry. He became a Colonel in 1862 and then he was actually wounded twice. He was wounded once on May 3rd 1863 at Transferville Virginia and then a little bit later on July 2nd at Gettysburg and he was discharged February 10th 1864 but he died just a few months later uh in July of that year so I don't know for sure but I wondered if it was just four you know injuries from the battles that he never quite healed from. Well he didn't have a lot of time to recover from May to July. Interesting to see the uh the early photograph of him there. Does any of your sort of mapping tools indicate where you've found photographs of the people that you've identified? Um those would be on the profile yeah when we had a profile we asked members to source where they found it from so I'd have to look into this profile but yeah you'd be able to find it there. Yeah that's one of my personal interests is early photograph so yeah it's good to know. Yeah you'd be able to see there where they found it. Yeah you guys are going to have to come into Wikitrain just to explore um you know because this just in an hour we can barely barely share. Oh yeah no I appreciate that. There's all kinds of good stuff waiting for you guys out there. So that was Daniel and then just again for my own entertainment and hopefully yours uh General George Mead was actually the union general who defeated General Robert Eley at Gettysburg so I thought it would be interesting to see how Charles was ever related or connected to General Mead and they're just 15 degrees apart um and you can see Charles's sister um she married Eliton and then George she married in his family married into the Meads and that's where they were connected so quite cool and then here's his map. Yeah they went all over the states. States in England I'm guessing the Buddha in the middle are probably people who died at sea during the war I guess. Looks like he had one who died in Spain and then a few down there in Australia and New Zealand so yeah. I thought you'd like this one because I knew that he went over to the states so I thought I'll put him in. Yeah some of our U.S. people are very excited to have a U.S. person. I know when you were introducing it you said and if you're wondering why he's here it's because he was born in Erith in Huntingtonshire. Yep yep so that was Charles so then this one was my favorite Winifred Harrison Fair and it's because I love airplanes and she was a pilot. She was born January 9th 1906 in St. Yacht Huntingtonshire to Ernest Henry Harrison and Winifred Edith Kate Stevens. She was an aviator and the first woman to be checked out on a hurricane fighter and she was one of the first eight the initial group of women pilots to join the air transport auxiliary and so in that picture right there you can't I don't know if you can only tell but she's climbed out of a spitfire which is one of my favorite airplanes so she got to fly spitfire so I thought she was pretty dang awesome. So with her we started with her parents and we were able to add a lot. Oh wow. So this is a 10 generation 10 generation charter. Yeah that is yeah. This was the one I worked on. I did quite a bit on this one. Yeah it did well yeah that's good. That was very good and then this is where we started with her 70 views of connections. She had 80 so she started with the CC7 of 80 and we ended with a CC7 of 1532 for her. So Hillary your interesting find was it connected to her? Yes it was it was an interesting divorce. There was one of the one of the people divorced his wife. His wife went on to marry the correspondent or one of the correspondents and then I found another divorce from that second husband and because she for the same sort of reason she had a so there was a correspondence he was divorcing her again so yeah and I also found people that were like one there was a Martin there was a family where there was there were two Martins a father and son and the father had a second wife and the second wife was the aunt of the son's wife so it was sort of quite closely connected to each other so we certainly had on on our interesting finds I've managed to find a few things. Interesting dynamics for sure. One fun fact about Winifred's dad Ernest he delivered the first British quadruplets to all survive to adulthood even though they were born seven weeks prematurely and he had some specialist nurses who helped him but he took care of them for their first few critical weeks at his own at his own home and as of 2021 all they were all still alive. Interestingly you know we were mentioning about stained glass earlier in this line there is one of them his he was a I think he had something to do with wood cabinet maker I think he was and he presented a lectern to the church where he was baptized which was his father's church and there was a nice bit in the newspaper about it which I've actually transcribed on a page that's been transcribed so. Oh wonderful. That's excellent. Could I ask you a question Hilary? I'm very impressed with the number of direct ancestors that you found of Winifred there in the slide that we sure saw earlier and I mean roughly how long did it take you to come up with all that? It wasn't just me working on it I worked on some of them and I worked on and adding all the family as well you know all the siblings and things once you add the siblings you can start building out a bit. Oh yeah no absolutely yeah so do you have any sense of the time that you and your colleagues would have spent to get to that stage because it's always good to see that isn't it? Usually you know it can take quite a while to add on the thing. I know that's why I asked. Probably some of those more distant generations a lot of that probably was already on Wikipedia. You're connecting to what's already on there as well aren't you? A lot of them we would have found and added and then there's some where they would have been able to connect to stuff that's already. Yeah I can see that okay that's good. So just a couple interesting connections to Winifred. Frederick Albert Cook he Winifred's husband sister married Frederick Snacky he was I think five degrees from Winifred. He was born June 10th 1865 in Hortonville, Delaware, Sullivan, New York to Magdalena Long. He graduated from Columbia University and did medical studies at New York University Medical School and got his doctorate in 1890. He was an explorer both of the Arctic and the Antarctic. He served as surgeon on Robert Perry's Arctic Expedition of 1891 to 1892 and then on the Belgian Antarctic Expedition of 1897 to 1899. Later he was convicted of fraud and served time at London with penitentiary from 1923 to 1930 and then eventually he was pardoned by President Franklin Roosevelt. Wow. So his life kind of took a turn there. He's a colorful character. Hopefully he got it back together after he learned some lessons there. They will look quite a lot of medics and solicitors in that in that line. Yeah, they were perfect. And then we had William Thorne Carter II. William was born in September 14th 1900 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to William Ernest Carter and Lucille Stewart Polk. He and his parents and one of his sisters were actually survivors of the Titanic sinking and it was kind of it's a sad little story but I'm going to read it anyway and try not to cry because if it has anything to do with dogs I need to cry so I'm going to try not to but this is just what was found when they were researching him. We actually have a titanic project on WikiTree so they'd already done quite a bit of research on this particular profile but it said William just managed to join his mother and sister in life boat for but it was a close thing after reluctantly allowing 13 year old John Ryerson into the boat. Chief Second Steer George Dodge had demanded no more boys but Mrs. Carter put a hat on young William's head and together they boarded the boat. Carter in his later years never liked to discuss the Titanic disaster not because of the loss of life or the experience of it all but rather as an 11 year old boy Carter never forgot the memory of having to leave behind his old airdale behind on a leash. Light told her would not permit the dog to get on a life end with the rest of the family so young Carter cried but he was assured by Colonel John Jacob Astor that he would take care of the dog and the last thing that young Carter saw of his beloved airdale was John Jacob Astor holding the dog's leash and apparently there's a rumor that John Jacob Astor went down to the ship's kennels to release the dogs that were there and the story kind of lends a little credence to that rumor so William had to leave his dog. That would be quite impressionable on a 12 year old imagine. So wanted for its husband's brother and married William's wife sent to after their divorce so that's how they were connected and then just because Millie Earhart's personal favorite of my woman pilot I wanted to see how they were connected and there's actually it's pretty cool so you know this relative of one of Fred's married David Culbertson and this relative of Millie Earhart's married Agnes Culbertson so they had relatives that married siblings. Yeah so that was kind of cool and then they went everywhere they were all over the place so lots down here not lots but you can see you know the India area some down there to Australia but a lot back and forth between the states and Canada and any thoughts on one of Fred before we move on? It would be so cool if she had known that who she was connected to don't you? Yeah it would be super cool that's why we have so much fun now looking at that stuff right? Definitely yeah that's why the relationship finder and the connection finder are members to their favorite tools so I was like am I related to so-and-so am I connected to so-and-so? Yeah and the our connection is good because of course you've got the Ducksford the Imperial War Museum our museum which is in Cambridge here in Huntington it's quite nice as well there so there's some good links there. You can see the spitfires flying there? Yeah absolutely yeah it's great. So cool I love it. All right so number seven what do you say is my name so so me? Sorry I think so. So Roger Soam Jennings he went by Soam mostly in his life but he was born April 24th 1904 in Bodysham, Cambridge to Roger William Bulward Jennings and Winifred Pike Pease he was a British art historian known as an expert on East Asian ceramics he served in the Hong Kong Civil Service and then became a valuable contributor to the Journal of the Hong Kong Naturalists. He later took a job at the British Museum where he served as assistant keeper of Oriental Antiquities so with him this one is fun so when we started with him you can see that a lot of his mother's side was there and not so much on his father's side and when we finished with him we were able to fill in quite a lot on his father's side yeah so he started pretty well connected he already he had about 22,459 connections when he started and then this may not look different but it actually is a lot more condensed um he ended with 4,179 connections so quite a lot for Mr. Roger there I know they had a lot of fun working on his lines too. There were so many knobby families in this this family though you know it was really low hanging fruit and I'm ashamed to say I did my favorite thing to find out was that Roger was actually a third cousin of Bambo Gascoigne because it went through the Gascoigne's who were sorry husband's just right home they went he was in the Gascoigne family who were buried in Barking and in Barking we have the Gascoigne estate a really hideous council estate and Bambo Gascoigne came and opened that for us back in the 1970s so yeah and it was also interesting to see down again on the um uh the father's side that uh a lot of them were reverends yeah buying and selling the rights to present their sons to the church as they did in those days very cool that's interesting because I think that's that's three out of the seven people have got in there which must be way beyond the uh the expected numbers mustn't it so yeah yeah the other interesting thing about this was also that um the um uh it's further out than as shown on the uh the finder but um it's they they finally married into the first government who was the and he was the um the government the first governor of the bank of england so yeah very cool so just a couple of the interesting folks that we found so son Gambeer Jennings was Roger's great uncle he was born April 14th 1826 also in Bodysham to George Jennings and Maria Jane Gambeer he served in the Crimean War he was ranked as a brevet major and he commanded he they were in at war they're in a battle and two of his senior officers died and so he stepped up into command of the B troop of the 13th light dragons during what was called the charge of the light brigade and so for that he was awarded the companion of the bath and he was described as a brave and very well respected man who was deeply mourned when he died in 1873 so quick brave that was roger's great uncle another is this guy john floinson uh he he loves something else too it sounds like he was born about 17 late in england and he was part of a group that on january 21st 1743 he founded the honorable and facetious society of ugly faces so their membership was about 40 men mainly affluent merchants and professionals membership requirements included being a bachelor having a facetious disposition and of course having an ugly face so i wish we had a photo of this guy but his appearance was described as rough face blurry eyes flowing like two fountains monstrous long nose hooch liking eagle eagles beak and a pretty large mouth oh i was really pleased when i found this guy oh my gosh he was so fun he just was something and so the other funny part with him so one he was the mayor of liverpool in 1761 um and there is a man named richard brook who wrote about him um and said that one of his daughters married general gascon who was for many years one of the representatives of parliament for liverpool and another daughter married john dent who was during several parliament a member for Lancaster both of the ladies were celebrated for their beauty yes so he may have been a founding member of the ugly face club but his daughters were okay so he was fun it's so much fun and you get like you know a lot of times you can only find updates and places but when you can get these little nuggets of like the person was so fun yeah according to that you were born in 1708 and died in 1871 which would have made it that was a type of 1808 1808 right okay yeah it says 1708 on here yeah that's what happened when you type okay so that was john and john was rogers fourth-grade grandfather and then we had a lot of people in a cc7 so there are a lot of people that come and go from different places and they've been all over the world including a significant amount from south africa and india and a lot from great britain so you'd have to go to wiki tree plus and and pull up from this map for genines history genines and you'd be able to zoom in a lot closer and see all the different you know the states and be able to really like look more closely at those wow yeah i'll never get over that ugly face club i know no given the soames name did you find any connection to the church your family that uh in the links because they're linked to the soames family aren't they and so the spelling is quite unusual isn't it so it's the same i think there are but because they've already been created i didn't spend much time no no i understand that if you go on to his his tree or his profile then you can trace it back yeah of course yeah okay all right i'll check our i'll check our relationship finder real quick well yeah let's see i think winston church was often considered to have quite a nice as well wasn't he so winston and roger our ninth cousins once removed so so yes in other words yeah that's that yeah they did connect back there so right so yes good yeah i think he was the posh one because i remember when i was teasing people and they said oh it will be somebody that's posh and i said no i i don't think they're all posh i think i have got a wide spectrum of people who did all sorts of different things and came from all sorts of different walks of life but yeah he was the posh one wasn't he that's probably why you got so far with him they had lands and things like that yeah yeah for sure yeah it does make a difference when they're not aglabs and they're like you have no idea how many aglabs i have in my own tree but of course over over generations you get both up with and down with mobility don't you so it yes great child did you delve into the cambridge university records because there were so many vickers and you know a lot of them will possibly have gone to cambridge and i wondered if you had used those records uh we used then a lot yeah he's cambridge alumni yeah yeah that's a good site that is isn't it and proclades would have been helpful to you as well wouldn't they yeah there's also the clergy of the church of england database yeah so yeah yeah that's good yeah oh so how do we do yeah that i thought that was really good i'm uh impressed with what you managed to do with it what i gave you yeah can we can we thank you and your your colleagues i mean it was a fascinating piece of work and really enjoyed sort of taking part this afternoon and and getting a bit more sort of take on what you've actually done so it was excellent so thank you so much no i'm glad you could join us and i i just i'm going to give a shout out to a few people that worked on it jaymond chaco was our mvp of the week um they get points for different things and he was our top scorer we also do bounty points for different things like the first person who connects someone to the tree um we give them some brick walls to break down so if they can break one of those they get some points so we had two bounty hunters that tied with home bounty hunters they tied for points for that and that was marjorie gibbons and vicki blanco and then i have to give a shout out to jone jone widaker was the captain for the week she wanted to be here um but she had another meeting and she just gave me a little bit to read so i'm just gonna read this is from jone i'm sorry that i'm unable to be with you today for the reveal of the cambridge shire and huntington shire family history society i want to thank everyone who took part and helped to make the week such a success i was impressed with the overall standard at the work that was done during the week and particularly enjoyed the friendly collaboration that took place on discord i would also like to thank the cambridge shire and huntington shire family history society for sending us such an interesting flexion of profiles to work on some quite hard to find information about but it was a great challenge for us another improvement for our sherry so it's lovely thank you for inviting us well yeah what i mean i i we have a regional group of family history societies and there's a meeting in it in a couple of months time so i shall certainly in my report say something very positive about this and i'm sure that will then sort of resonate through the other members and it may well be there you'll get some further business through that that would be great yeah we have a lot of fun doing these so yeah so thank you for thank you for partnering up and taking our challenge i'm giving us a challenge we'll be back next year if you'll have us so i know you had five more games so definitely you have to figure out some way to yeah we'll pick some ag labs yeah yeah perhaps we'll take somebody uh really early i mean i'm quite interested in tracing answers back to the conqueror so we'll go over one of those as well let's do that yeah there we are we do you have a group of members that really like working on those really early early research so yeah no no i i have a talk which is called my family back to 1066 which people are to do it and uh so it's it's on our website if you're interested in seeing it so very cool yeah so yeah thank you all right well then we will say farewell for now thank you thank you all right thank you yeah good