 Tonight, I'm here with Tex also known as Texas Dom Tex, how you doing tonight? I'm doing good. What's going on? Oh same old thing just having to chat with you tonight I Want to first ask you about your I guess we'll call it your entrance fee to the man is fear What made you come into the self-development creating the best version of yourself? What is your backstory in your story? Man, where do I start? How I got into the manosphere Was a friend of mine who was also a dominant male We had a group of guys that we talked to on the internet that we kind of compared notes about in this Dom sub community That then I'm a part of and he sends me a Article, I guess it was an email blast or something from hunter drew and I was I love I remember exactly which one it was and I'm reading to you this guy's good you should read this and so I'm reading this thing and I'm looking at this guy's this guy's a domino half. He doesn't even know it You know, he's he's got the whole attitude down I mean, maybe it was his email creating your slut or something like that, but I Started reading more of his stuff. He started referring to red pill and reddit and I started digging deeper down that particular rabbit hole and came upon You know some of the the traditional red pill stuff and about that time I got I was on Twitter because of Trump and so, you know, I've been Hanging out doing a lot of stuff there. So I just did a quick search for hunter drew and bam there He was on Twitter, right? So I started following him next thing. You know, we're doing them in March in 2017 You know, we're just just like I said, I just ended up becoming friends with him and a couple of the guys He was hanging around with the next thing, you know, I'm part of this whole thing And it's just probably he's he was my my entry to the to the whole world of this thing Now was hunter drew was he the family alpha was that yeah, yeah, that was the family alpha He goes by Zach small now. He went ahead and came out of the closet. So yeah I he's he was the gateway drug that got me into all of this bullshit Okay, good now when when you entered when you entered this with Hunter or Zach X small now You had some health problems, didn't you back then I'll do away before that Yeah, I like Tim. Yeah, like I said, I read pill myself and people don't understand that statement too. Well, I don't think 12 years or so ago. I Got an infection in my leg a bug bite or something. I don't know what it was puncture wound in some sort and I got flesh eating bacteria in my leg and You know, you're seeing all these people right now dying of COVID, right? And why are they dying? They're dying because they have co-morbidity factors, right? They're obese. They have diabetes They've got heart disease. They've got, you know, COPD or something like that. They've got this extra things going on and so What infection that probably would have most guys that are healthy would have shaken off I was a hundred pounds overweight and lethargic and drank too much and was miserable and everything else and this infection took hold and And literally it was in the hospital Job, I don't know 10 14 days something like that multiple surgeries. They were gonna cut my leg off at one point My wife talked them out of it. My wife got a blesser, you know, we were still having we were having trouble at the time Just trying to have a happy marriage and you know, she could have let me die a couple of times she actually literally saved my life twice during all this stuff and Which is really silly girl because I had like a million dollar life insurance policy on me. So, you know, she must really love me That's the one thing I took away from this, right? But I got out of there I survived that and I said, okay, I gotta start getting healthy man I got to start doing something right. So I started, you know, walking and just trying to eat better and running and all that Kind of stuff and then I trashed that same leg I trashed my knee because I'm 330 pounds and I'm trying to jog and so you never know six months later That that poor leg is getting operated on again I got a total knee replacement this time on that one and one thing led to another and just had a lot of Just a lot of struggles in the marriage and that type of thing and at some point I Redpilled myself realizing that something's got to change that I'm not happy. She's not happy. We still love each other Life is not what it's supposed to be I could see divorce on the horizon. She could see divorce on the horizon We were both trying real hard button heads or nothing was working and that's when I said, okay Fuck this. I got to start losing weight. I got to start getting the shape and truthfully I didn't do it for myself at first I did it, you know selfishly thinking, okay Well, you know, I'm gonna have to have you know, slim up a little bit and try to find another woman at some point You know, this is how blue-pilled I was thinking at the time and as I went through all this stuff It just I started getting healthier and healthier and happier and started searching for things that made me happy and then You know, that kind of kind of redpilled me to the way that I had been living my life and the fact that I hadn't been in charge And I hadn't been doing the things I should have been doing, you know, as a man You know what taking care of myself. I wasn't taking care of my family the way I should have been I was lazy You know, I was just I was pushing off responsibilities you know, and you I Don't know man. It's a whole myriad of things low testosterone turned out to be an issue So we took care of that as well So I'd never heard of the red pill I'd never heard of any of the the books or anything like that I had ended up that same friend that sent me the article had Turned me on to dr. Glover's book no more. Mr. Nice guy and that was a nice epiphany read, right? That got me in so that's kind of how I got into into all of this stuff And then one thing led to another and the wife and I fixed our shit and off we went, you know For somebody who doesn't know that's watching this now go ahead and yeah Give give your version of what it means to be red pill or red pill Yeah, you know red pill I think it's just an awareness man It's just for me. It was an awareness of how the world works It's awareness of how relationships work with women. It's a relationship It's it's an awareness for How I view the world instead of looking at the world through this little, you know Telescope now. It's like I'm back. It's like all of a sudden. I'm like 33,000 feet up in the air I'm looking down. I'm seeing the whole thing now I'm seeing the corruption in government. I'm I mean you could take red pill every different direction you want to Everybody every community's got a red pill in it, right? Um But I redpilled myself in terms of just fixing my own stuff And deciding that I was going to start being a man worth worth respecting and That that to me is what it what it was all about Just understanding where I was from the macro looking down upon myself kind of a third person Like in those video games where you create the angle where you're looking down on the guy as you're playing the character That that was how I kind of ended redpilling myself was to watching what I was doing instead of just letting the world react Around me. I was starting to take the actions and step forward So red pill again for people that don't know is basically I mean, I think it all it all derived from the movie The matrix You can take this blue pill And you can go back to the way you were Or you can take this red pill and see the world for what it really is So that's really the version of the red pill now I've noticed really since this election time that I've seen people like I think was Elon Musk, you know, take the red pill. I've seen I've seen Trump junior say the same thing take the red pill Do you think these guys really understand the true meaning of the red pill? I The red pill like you said originally goes back to the matrix movies, right? And so any most of us I've said, you know, 90% of the people walking around have seen one of the matrix movies at some point Um, and I think that's where most people grab that reference from Um, that there this is this world around us that we're walking through or living through is being controlled by You know, a certain number of small number of people and there's there's that kind of red pill thinking There's the sexual dynamics red pill that you know, a lot of us got to talking about especially a couple years ago You know talking about, you know, male females sexual strategies and All that kind of stuff and there's some red pill going on there I mean the guys once you see it, you can't unsee it, right? You know, it's not a way to live your life, but it you know, why they say it's not a prescription Uh to fix things, but it's certainly a diagnosis type of thing So I don't know man the the term has been corrupted and been latched on to by anybody and everybody I mean hell the wall street occupy wall street people a couple years ago. We're talking red pill, you know, so Every every little group is trying to yank on to it and trying to co-opt the term It's became kind of generic right now. I think is what absolutely and I mean to me My original theory of the red pill was strictly To intersexual dynamics. That was my introduction to the red pill And I have applied it to not just that but everything in my life And I think some people agree with that and some people don't So I think the term red pill has been a little bit Generic, especially in the past, but I think I think people that Don't agree with it. I think our Fooling themselves to a certain degree, right? I mean you can you can deny it. Like, oh, that's not the way it is That's not the way it is. And then you start seeing these little things. They're like, oh crap. That's exactly what I read about it That's what this guy was already was talking about her and you start to see it Once once you've read it you start to see you can't unsee it man There's no going back to being blue pill You can't swallow the blue pill and get back into the cocoon again. You're done Exactly it has to do I remember talking with donovan sharp and Saying it's one thing to take the red pill, but it's another thing to digest the red pill Because what it's going to do is things will I think will haunt you Because again, like you said once you see it you can't unsee it And that can be that can be a curse and a certain to some people to me It was an epiphany not a curse to you it was an epiphany What do you say to a guy that's rejecting red pill philosophies and red pill thinking? Oh, you know It's that's the natural state of things, right? It's like the the stages of grief that kubler ross wrote about years ago And you're going to have denial and anger and all that other stuff that's going on I always just tell people that are first of all, they get angry Right. You're really really angry about the whole thing and like that you feel like they've been played, you know, they've been You know fed a lie type of thing Just got to get them over the anger part, right? And just tell them just just Digest it just let it go Don't be angry about it. Whatever just keep your eyes open and recognize, you know when When crappy things are going on around you, you know, try to understand why they're going on around you And try to understand it in some of these terms because you'll you will start to make sense after a while And it's not telling you have to hate all women or you have to live your life a certain way That's ridiculous. It's just to help you to diagnose a situation Then you can apply the fix and figure out what you want to do at that point It opens it opens your eyes is what it does. Absolutely. Yeah, you know so Now on your on the screen here it says text, but Everybody knows you and a lot in the manisphere as texas dom So for anybody doesn't know but dom means dominant. I'm correct Absolutely. So you live what would be called with with your wife? Dominant submissive relationship. Absolutely. I think when people hear that the average person hears that I think they get triggered by it But yeah, the the fact that I've heard you speak about it and I've heard you explain it So I'd like you to explain that to the audience here and let them know What like what is What is the basis of it and how did you get into it? I think the first thing is when you hear dominance and submission you you immediately think the bdsm because those are two of the letters in bdsm dns, right? Um, there's a whole lot more to it than that. Um, I think that If the person stops and says, okay, what what is it exactly? It's basically it's it's one person leading the other person following Uh, that person that's following isn't a doormat. She's not abused. You know, she's not treated as a second class citizen She's not a slave unless she wants to be for the night Right, but she expects you to have a solid frame As a leader, okay, and you're supposed to make the decisions You you you're the man of the house. You're supposed to make the tough decisions and I think what it is it's a It's formalizing A relationship and giving it a term But it's something that your grandparents live man your great grandparents lives, you know, it's human nature There's always been a dominant player and a submissive player in a household You know, it's just in the last 30 or 40 years that everybody has to be equal and you know We all have to kumbaya and split the chores and do all these things and then everybody loses the spark of polarity You know, they're not happy anymore. They can't figure out why there's no sexual attraction because men are not being men They're being neutered Neutered men or little girls basically and women are trying to be men and no one's happy because they're not living their true lifestyle And so I think that's what we're doing. We're allowing My wife is is saying look, I want you to lead me. I want you to leave this family And I want you to have this incredibly strong frame because I want to live inside your frame Right. It was a whole red pill thing, you know years ago is like, uh, you know, you should have You should have this great frame, but don't really let anybody know that you've got a great frame You should have this frame. Don't let them know that that you're pulling them into it or whatever It's just the opposite here. It's like I have this great frame But she's expecting me to have it if I start to lose my frame It upsets her because she wants me to be in control of what's going on now People immediately think it's sexual and true sex is amazing, right? And it's just That's the kinky part. That's the part where you can you can play around and you can tie up and you can Have floggers and you can do whatever you want Most of people that are watching this to probably seen 50 shades of gray at some point. It's not all that it is a deep connection between two people Who emphasize trust and communication and respect and honesty? And they and they work these pillars of this relationship to to maximize the relationship for both people She gets something out of it. I get something out of it and we're both it can be insanely happy And like anybody else when you have the ups and downs and things start to get a little rough You have this framework to fall back on you have this set of rules. You have this expected behaviors You can remind somebody that hey, we're not speaking in respectful tones I'm not or you're not and we can fall back under this framework And so we course correct so much more quickly than we used to It's literally saved our marriage, you know, we were we're 30 something years married now and uh I can say it about year 25 or so. We were about to be split. So it's it's pretty amazing And I people get about it. I get people on twitter that Hit blow me up on dms and tell me how i'm abusing my girl And I don't you know, I've got a little dick and how I've got You know, I just all the little things that they come out with right because they don't understand the lifestyle And they just think they're holier than the island that this is abuse or whatever to say It's just the opposite, you know, she's my greatest possession I treat her I treat her incredibly well and she treats me incredibly well Because we both know that the door swings both ways We both know that we were we were close to the brink of disaster And we'd neither one of us wanted it neither one of us ever stopped loving each other And so we're able to use this framework to get our course corrected And we know that we have to bring our a game At all times not always right sometimes somebody's sick somebody, you know But but we strive to have our a game all the time And that's what kind of keeps it all together. So everybody thinks it's just wild and crazy sex. And yeah, it can't be But we're monogamous man. We're not having this guy said, oh, you're you're having orgies every weekend. Am I really Told me You know, I mean, hey, I I'm open. I'm open-minded and all that but I don't share my girl, right? I mean, I'm we're monogamous. She's my greatest prize my greatest treasure Why wouldn't I want to give her to some other guy? It just doesn't work that way, you know People don't understand and I think too when somebody does hear I mean, I I I was guilty of it myself when I hear dominant submissive relationship you deep it automatically brings your mind to a sexual thought Okay, but what what you're telling me is that dominant submissive is really a the natural order of men and women Absolutely, it really is Yeah, yeah, it's been that way since cavemen, right? You know cavemen were dominant went out, you know and protected the clan and killed the animals and brought them home when women Took care of the kids and and kept the home nice and kept things going, you know so I allowed my wife to Be herself man. She can go out and plant flowers. She can go bake cookies. She can go color crayons with the grandkids She can do whatever she wants to and explore her femininity And not have to try to compete with me to wear the pants from the family. She's happy or not having to do that You know because years ago I was messing up and you know women are amazing Absolutely amazing in their in their ability to pick up the ball and run with it when their man is totally screwed up You know because they're going to keep their kids fed they're going to do whatever they got to do to make sure the whole thing doesn't just completely fall apart and They're miserable doing it, but they're going to do it because you're not going to be the man You're going to force you're going to advocate the throne as king you're going to force the queen to start to try to be king And they get miserable and they hate you for it. You know, they don't maybe Overly say it at first, but trust me. They just get sick of it. So we just got their Got finished butt heads with each other and trying to fight for who is going to control. She said, okay Look, I'm giving you control don't fuck up You know Handle it. You know, yeah, that's good. I mean As men we should be in control But the way you're describing it when any of these words trigger people control Dominance those are all trigger words, but we do have a natural order I mean, we really do as men. I think most women really do want to be led But when the guy gives up control like you said, that's when the issues start when we get lazy when we get fat when we when we don't pay attention to Opsi where you're where you're everybody has their needs You know, so as a as a as a say a A dominant how do you take care of your wife's needs? Oh, you know, I make sure in general. Yeah, yeah I'm really worried. I've worried. I'm really I concern myself with her emotional needs right, I mean I women are big balls in emotions and They don't always want you to fix stuff. They want you to listen. So You know, I my goal is to try and and really listen to her really well and figure out where she's coming from and take her advice She's smart as a whip. She's a very successful business person Um, she can read people better than I can I'll get into a business situation with my job and I'm in a I'm in this group dynamic thing going on and I'll write it by her So what do you think's going on here and show it Invariably every single time tell me exactly whose motivations what and she's she's good at diagnosing these things, right? So but I'm diverging but my thing to meet her needs. It could be it's physical stuff Yeah, I gotta make sure that the electricity bills are paying the yards mode and all that's just That's just what all guys are supposed to do right just do your stuff handle your stuff but from an emotional perspective Supporting her and her choices and what she wants to do in life Listening to her worries and her fears because trust me man, it's the freaking covet thing You know, it has just wound her up and every other woman that I know, you know, it's just wound them up a lot of Because there's the concern the anxiety and the tension and what's going to happen and oh my god, you know, the sky is falling You know, I just saw CDC stat right to people my age I'm in my 50s and our so she right and so people in their 50s basically have a 99. 5 or 6 survival rate if you catch it you know, it's really not that as bad as everybody's saying it is but Her emotional state on this whole thing has been a mess man So I'm having to get clued in having to really listen to what's going on with her having to reassure her Having to let her know that I'm prepared. I may not know what's coming down the line, but she can she can rest assured that Whatever's going to happen. I'm going to make a great decision that I'm prepared at the house You know, whether it's supplies or money or ammunition or whatever, right? Whatever happens, we're going to be okay, you know, and that's that's the thing so Those are the needs. I think that that she she needs met. That's Really emotional, you know, yeah, my brother always says Women don't want to be the rock. They want you to be the rock Let's say a man wants to talk to you about a Dom sub lifestyle. How do you approach that subject with him? It depends on on where he's trying to come from an angle is If he's simply trying to spice up his sex life and do something in the bedroom Then, um, you know, there's some definite things that he can do in that regard Taking more control in the bedroom not asking her what she wants, you know Penning her down a little bit being a little more aggressive and that type of thing Is a lot of times that's what the guys are asking about. How do I get her to be more More submissive in the bedroom. How can I how can I be more dominant? So there's definitely some things you can do there other guys come at it with Hey, you're able to fix your marriage, man. I really want to fix my marriage And I think this might be work might work for me too the biggest issue with that is My wife brought this idea to me Right. So here we have two people That are saying, yeah, let's explore this. This seems like a great idea And we're both working at it together because we both want to fix things So some guys are in this bad situation relationship and they're trying to fix it But they're the only one doing any work And their their girl's not wanting to do any work and she's already mentally checked out And at that point it may be too little too late kind of thing um But it's worth it's worth having a conversation with her over, you know You say, hey, I've I've been reading up on this kind of stuff And I thought maybe this is kind of like the way our grandparents used to live Maybe not all the kinky sex and all that but just You know just me leading you following and us living a more traditional I don't want to go down the whole trad con thing, but it's it's a very traditional lifestyle, man It's a very very much so um And I just try to help them figure out what are they trying to accomplish and where do they want to go And sometimes in that situation where he's he's wanting to fix it. She's kind of half checked out I'm like, you know, dude, the only thing you can do is be more dominant in in your interactions with her in the world Um, you start doing all the red pill stuff basically, right? You start taking care of yourself You start going to the gym. You start eating right Um, you start not being a whiny little bitch and begging for sex Um, you know, if she's not giving you any or whatever you turn around go to the gym Walk away go do something else go find a hobby Um, you know, it's all those those things you have to do to improve as a man Is how you take that first step and become an dominant because I think every every man out there's probably got Some sort of dominant deep down inside of him. Anyway, he just hadn't figured out how to let it loose yet So you do all those things you take care of your your your responsibilities You you treat your body right you treat her right even though you she you may not think she's deserving of being loved And I'll let you love her anyway, but you know You're you're no longer her servant if you've been subservient to her you got to stop that shit You know you have to if you're worried about everything you say or do and how she's going to react or fly off the handle That's no way to live. You have to quit worrying about that. You just almost have to like, okay Just pretend like i'm single how would I how would I act right now if I was single? What would I be doing here? Um, you know a lot of guys are in roommate situations with their wives, you know, it's it's a sad state of affairs, but if she's not wanting to Work on improving things to hold dom sub thing probably is going to be Rejected summarily when you bring it up to her So you got to kind of phase it in kind of slowly and I think a lot of that would begin in the bedroom you know if you are able to have sex at some point and You know having sex like it's your last time on the planet, you know And leaving her bow like in a week and walking away and wondering what the hell just happened You know and and taking what you desire taking what's yours Enjoying yourself and whether she gets off or not is not what you're going to sit there and worry about for the next half hour hour hour however long you're in there You just take care of you And and and that's Not being selfish. It's just this is what i'm here for You're the object of my desire and i'm going to have you and and she feels ravished Used and very feminine and very beautiful when it's all said and done So There's things you can do there But if you start, you know, you pull out the 50 shades movie and say man I was reading about this stuff and y'all are having marriage problems and you pull out the 50 shades movie That's probably not going to help. You know But I do people do it. You know, they stay do it so Yeah, which weighs more in this type of lifestyle Is it is it the sexual part or no, no the sexual leading sex is easy man. The sex is freaking easy You know, if you've mostly been married a while, you know, it gets her off and you start exploring other things The sex part is just taking control in the bedroom is is is very natural to a lot of people um Maybe not so much to some guys, but you know, you can you can figure it out and start, you know Quit worrying about being a nice guy and just just be a beast You know that that part but but the leadership part maintaining your frame man. That's that's the part that's the 24 7 part That's the part where you know, you got to work at that stuff You know, it's really easy to have a bad day and decide you're going to blow up at her You know, she said something and you just pissed off at the world and next thing you know, you're not watching what you're saying And you know and submissives are very needy very very needy once You know the currency you have to spend with them is your time your attention And they want it all man. They want it all so, you know, like right now She's in there watching tv and she knows that i'm i'm made time to come out here and have this conversation And she never questions that she never gives me any grief about it But I can guarantee you she's waiting for me to get done here in an hour or so and come back in right because she wants my full attention and And she wants she wants that and that's okay because she gives back to me in her ways as well. So Um the leadership part is the part where you you just don't want to crush them I mean you start snapping back at them and stuff. That's the old way man We don't do that trap anymore. We we burned our ships man. We're quartets, right? We burn the ships at the coast And there's no going back to spain man. We're done. This is this is how we're going to live our lives It just doesn't work. We're divorcing period and she knows it and I know it and we embrace it and We love each other even more for it. So yeah, danger question You asked me what time it is. I've had to make a clock, you know, okay Now now you're I believe you're writing a book And I am what what is the basis of this book? Obviously What we're talking about now, but is there anything Anything that you can kind of give us a little Cheater on Yeah, I get I get asked all the time. Hey, man. Is there a good book on amazon or is there Give me good reference material on that or websites or whatever There's some good stuff sort of but it's all sex-based. It seems like everything I run across is it's all about You know how to have a scene with your wife in the bedroom and creative and it's all sex this and sex that And trust me like I said the sex is the icing on the cake on this whole deal It's it's definitely amazing and and mind-boggling at times, but it's it's The reward is far greater than just that so Not having any good links not having any good places to send people I have a couple but it's it's limited, right Um, I decided I'm just gonna write my own I got all these people asking me all these questions and I type out these long freaking direct messages back to them And I thought you know, let's take some of this stuff and let's go ahead and put it into a book Let's categorize it into some chapters and make it short make it easy to digest don't make it anything long And I really thought I was going to have it ready to go here for uh 21 con here next month, but Then somebody introduced me to this this guy that does ghost writing stuff And the best way to say things on on the internet twitter And it was like how to rethink how you write and all this stuff and so That is a bit addicting and so now I've gone back and started re-editing some of these chapters and Looking at it from a readability standpoint and trying to trying to actually make it something Worth somebody's time to read and I think it was pretty good But I think I can make it a lot better. And so instead of trying to Instead of trying to get done with it and have it and say, oh, yeah, I got this book blah, blah, blah You know, I would I wanted to be the right book I don't care when it comes out because it's gonna be me It's going to be part of my story part of how we fix some things Some tips on things that that we found that work good for us Along with some of the basics and just kind of blend the whole thing together And like I said not make it, you know 700 pages make it something somebody can digest in a short period of time Yeah, because I you know again, I'll go back to where again when somebody hears dominant submissive it automatically triggers a response that it's sexual and from Way you're explaining it to me right now That's like you said, that's the icing on the cake. That's the reward of Should I call it a reward? I mean, is that a it's of of your lifestyle? Ah the reward yeah rewards sound like you're trying to earn something right? Yeah, I agree with you. I agree with you it's it's just the uh It's the fulfillment. It's the it's the bonus. It's the uh, yeah, I don't I just yeah Trust me. I'm I'm thinking the same way you are um Yeah, I mean, it's just there's just so much there. I mean, you know, we we talk about Gaming our wives. We talk about gaming our girlfriends. We talk about You know, sexually your wife starts when you get up in the morning, right? You may not hit you're not having sex till 9 p.m That night, but it started when you woke up. You just don't know what she knows it, right? So Um when we're living this dom sub lifestyle and we're living and we're we're allowing ourselves to Allowing each other as well to live their desired role in this relationship and we have set roles on how we do things and who we are and how we interact with the world and It starts then it starts with how we wake up and we talk about relationship where we're having coffee Or we're talking about the world. We always shift back and talk about us for a while and It's the attention that you spend that I spend with her That leads us to that 9 p.m event that type of thing. So it's um It's just having a solid marriage man and people people look at it like it's some derangement or something and You know, whatever you do in the bedroom behind closed doors. I could care less I mean, I don't care who you are or what you're doing man. It's none of my business. I just don't care Um guy guy girl guy guy girl girl girl girl guy girl whatever. I just don't care man Close your door and lock it man. I ain't coming in so people get so hung up because You know, there might be God love them 50 shades of gray fucked a lot of people up right because the characters are all screwed up The guy's way extreme. Uh, it's not how the lifestyle really is at all But it was the kind of chick porn That led to one of the best-selling paperback books ever led to making a lot of money on movies It it did one thing that I thought was cool Is that it brought the whole lifestyle into the public eye a little bit more and made it a little more acceptable And people were started to explore it and think about it and talk about it a little bit more Which is good, but it also set up a unrealistic Um example of a dynamic that I just it's just unrealistic. It's just not We don't all have penthouses and helicopters and you know, we there was there's some Titillating stuff in there this that the other if you like that kind of stuff great You're gonna you're gonna love that but there are people that just live this lifestyle That don't even know what the name of it is. They don't know what it is They just it's how they live their marriage, you know, but let me ask you a question What does that tell you that a movie like 50 shades? And I think there wasn't there like sequels also I believe it's real. Yeah. Yeah. So what does that tell you when all these women are lining up And buying these books. What is that? What is the what does that tell you about these women? It's telling me that feminism has failed them It tells me that living their lives having to be equal with their spouses equal with men trying to be men And break the glass ceiling and all that crap Is not that fulfilling, you know, they're they're reaching out for something Listen women come on man women read romance novels like like that's that's the market, right? That's a huge market. If a guy could ever figure out how to write a romance novel and do it really well He's set for life So this is another another variant of a romance novel. It's kind of funny. We were We were still in the battle days of our marriage And uh I was I had downloaded 50 shades. I figured we were about to the worst. It was getting close And I downloaded it onto my ipad. Of course, I didn't want anybody to know I had the book, right And I'm laying in bed and I'm reading it And she walks in she's like, what are you reading? I'm like 50 shades I can't believe you're reading that trash, you know, she stomped off into the other room or whatever And it was just I had to figure it out, right? There's millions of women buying this book and rubbing one out at night reading it, right? And so I got to figure out why I mean come on. There's something going on here Like you said, there's something happening here And I'm just a dumb old white guy here in texas and I want to figure this out because I might be back in that dating pool Here real soon And it'd be kind of nice to know what's going on in some of these women's heads I'd say one thing led to another and and now we're kind of we're living a very tame and modified version of that And just happy just enjoying, you know getting through getting through life and having fun along the way Good. Well, let's switch gears a little to you are a speaker at 21 now. You've spoke three times and you You're a majority the majority of your speech, especially the first speech was about dominant sub lifestyle But you also speak about masculinity and being a man So give me your take on that and the reason I'm going to ask you that is because We had talked earlier and your 2018 speech And that was your first speech the first time I saw you speak now at the end of that speech I don't choke up much, but I felt myself choking up One of the things you said that really really hit me hard And you were talking about men reaching out to other men and I believe I'm going to paraphrase you here But I believe what you said is when you have to throw a man that rope You throw a man that rope, but also That man has to grab on to that rope And that right there to me was real important what you said So tell me about that and tell me what you mean when you said that It's it's part of the mission right we always talk about you may have to find a mission in life Man, you got to have something to live for it can't be your woman. It can't be your job It just needs to be something that that makes you better at being you Something that benefits the world maybe something that's just a mission that keeps you driven And one of the things that I figured out Getting into this whole Manisphere thing Was that there's a lot of younger guys That didn't have dads Or their dads where they're missing or they were awa or you know, they just were shitty dads Or mom, you know, there was single mom situations that kind of thing And so I found myself being one of the older guys there And as far as like in twitter and in the manisphere stuff and and and now with the fraternity of excellence and some of the things that i'm doing there um You find yourself kind of being the The old geezer, you know, even at you know mid fifties at the time and i'm the old guy, right? But that's cool, you know So what I realized is the mission is to help these guys and whether it's you're another 50 year old guy You're you're struggling your marriage man. I've been there. I walked that walk. I've stepped in every one of those potholes I know exactly where you're coming from and I can hopefully try to help And the younger guys, maybe you can avoid these potholes man Maybe you don't have to have that that shitty couple of years of marriage like I did You know, maybe you can explore some different angles and different thoughts So it's always said, you know, we throw ropes man. We can't pull you up. We won't pull you up I don't have enough energy and time to pull everybody up But by god, man, I'm gonna hold that rope I'm gonna hang on to that rope at the top and that hole all you gotta do is climb I'm not gonna let it rope fall. You got to climb. You got to put in the work And I think where I got a little honestly I got a little choked up at the end of that talk as well because it uh all the emotions come flooding out of you something about You know, I do this because because men are important and men are not getting this and by god You know, you have a responsibility to leave here and do the same You know, because it's not just you know, those other men are important But you're one of those other men you're important too, you know, and you're important to me And so that's why why we do what we do Yeah, I mean that talk was was amazing fun for me It was nerve-wracking because it's the first time I've done anything in a atmosphere like that And the lights are pounding you in the face and and you can't see anybody You know, and my eyes don't work so good anyway, so I had the young man with the little with a little uh iPad with a count, you know the clock timer. I didn't even move it closer to me because I can't see the damn thing You know, it's too far away and and it's kind of nerve-wracking, but you're up there You got your slides as a crutch, you know, you can oh, excuse me You got your slides as a crutch and you can you can work on on You know keeping Pacing your speech by looking at your slides and all that kind of stuff But at the end man, it's kind of like, you know, yeah, this is all good information This is all cool stuff. This is kind of how I saved my marriage and So all this stuff that that people have asked me about and wanted to hear but There's also some other things that I want to tell you guys here at the end So I think the last 10 minutes or so was those things about get out there and travel and see the world and do these things and And take care of your bodies and and exercise and all these other things I wanted to tell everybody for so long and that last part was You know, you've been armed with all of this incredible knowledge 2018 was an amazing event man There was there was so so many Truth bombs being dropped For four straight days and I was the last guy up on the fourth day And so I had all these things man that I've been sitting in the back of the room getting bombarded But I didn't miss a talk the whole time And I'm just I'm just getting slammed all day long. Oh, man. How can I how can I do this? How can I do this better? I can do this better and all this kind of stuff And so at the band it's like this is what we're here for you have your armed with all of this knowledge You got to go do something with it now You know, you can't just Okay, file that away and go home and go back to watching football and drinking beer on the couch You're not taking care of your family. You're not taking care of your life or letting your job piss away or you know being a drunk or whatever Use this knowledge we've given you man. If you're in a hole, here's a rope You've got four days of guys throwing ropes to you crawl your ass out of that hole What are you waiting on? We're all standing up here waiting on you get up here You know, we're here. Come on. I ain't gonna pull you up You know Another guy was talking about you know, hey, man, I've got I've got loops on my backpack just grab onto one because I'm trucking You know, hold on tight just grab on come on for the ride kind of thing. So I that's you know, I love 21 con because it's it's getting guys together That's the fun. It's the fun at the pool You know smoking pipes and cigars and stuff and hanging out and having dinner and talking in the hallways and all that But the reality of it is all these features hit youtube man. They're all free at some point They're all gonna they're all out there and those those speeches don't go away. They're they're there forever Um, so, you know, somebody can go back and look up my talk from 2018 that we're talking about right now It's there. It's it's live. Yeah, you go find anytime you want to Um, and that's the beauty of 21 con man because it's all this stuff. Yeah, it's expensive or whatever But we've staying nice places. We like we'd like to do nice stuff, right? So it's all there for free for you at some point in it. Well, you can't make it So, you know, be sure and and go to the 21 studios channel 21 university or you know, go to that you find them on youtube You can subscribe for cheap to the private site. Um, I'm just saying there's just so much creative And then what we did patriarchy was the next one in may of 2019 And that was just for fathers and guys that want to be fathers and all that and that was an amazing time It was completely it wasn't completely different from 2018 But it was it was an offshoot of it, right? It was a it was a focused Of the focused event for for that topic. It didn't get into every crazy thing that we talked about in 2018 It just kind of focused it down on some on on the parenting and the fatherhood and the patriarchy stuff So, I mean, I could say these these and they put that anthony's pulling three events together at the same time in a couple of weeks Good lord Yeah, I think it's gonna I think it's going to be an incredible event. I really do I'm looking forward to it, you know, can you give anybody a A glimpse into what you're going to be talking about? Next convention Well, um At the patriarch one, I will not be delving into dom sub stuff It will definitely be be fatherhood And things that I wish 30 year old me had known type of thing So I'm gonna kind of I'm gonna kind of do a little time travel And I'll leave it at that. Are you speaking just at patriarch or 21 also? 22 and and patriarch and then I am I am not scheduled to be on the stage for the the main 21 con event At this point. I'm doing two out of three So you're speaking at 22 so You've got to tell me about the mansplaining event of the century What what are your plans when you speak to women? um my plan is to Tell them the story man It's to tell them the the the emotional connection That the livestock can bring tell them that there's another way. It's not a mandatory way But there's an alternative way to think about living your life So with the name Texas Dom you got a pretty good idea what I'm going to be talking about to them, right? Yeah, but respectfully and not delving into a bunch of crazy sex and stuff but just to Hopefully speak their language, you know, yeah, maybe take a vote on see who has Hands raised who has seen 50 shades of gray. That might be a good way to start Every freaking one of them probably, you know, so I don't know man. It's gonna be fun Like I said, I I I like to tell stories And so, uh, it'll be story time with text Okay, is your son coming to this one? No, he's uh pursuing his masters right now and he can't he can't pull away this time Okay, okay Well text listen, I think you've really explained kind of the Dom sub lifestyle. I mean even though I thought I knew What it was about and but I think this explanation you gave was a little more in-depth Then I've heard you talk about in a while So I don't think it's I think I think it's To me it sounds like more of like a just a real solid leadership role is what it sounds like to me It is that In my particular instance, it was my wife was throwing us a lifeline I mean, she was miserable too, right and and she was researching how to be happy and Trying to figure out what was going on in her own head and her own heart And that's when she came up with this, uh, christian women's submission It was like a tv show thing going on for a very short period of time And this there's a couple of websites that she stumbled onto And like so she dropped that bomb on me. I thought she was fiction to say it's time I think it's time to separate and then she turned around to me and while we're driving and said, hey I think I I'm a submissive. I'd like you to be my dominant and you know the first thing I'm thinking that was oh, yeah, sure Perfect. Yeah, let's do it and I got no idea what I'm agreeing to right, but it was a lifeline It was okay. I want this to work. She wants this to work. She's got a good idea I think let's go ahead and research this and figure out if it's going to work So I got to give her a lot of credit. I mean, you know, we have a strong marriage because We both give a damn and so even when things weren't going great. We still both loved each other one of this whole thing to work And you know, that's the story I like to tell because there is hope You know, divorce rates are rampant in this country and they always and god bless covet COVID is definitely increasing the You know the the divorce rates everybody having to be in the same house with each other for a couple of months You know and they weren't quite used to all that but You know, there is a there is a way to save this if you really wanted to say if you want to save it You don't have to bail on it and and that's that's that's a big part of what I what I try to help folks with Is to realize that there is there is another way of doing these things. You don't have to just jettison And throw everything away Let's let's say a woman now is watching this video And she's interested in that submissive Dom lifestyle Is there somebody that she can reach out to? Yeah, you know she can always Reach out to my girl via email My girl had a site going for a while. She took it down for a little bit Trying to streamline a few things and she's been working through some health issues And so that the the website wasn't the highest priority Right now, but I think it will be at some point But uh, yeah, I mean if anybody gets on Texasdom.com and emails me I have women that email me Not all the time, you know, when I act like I'm that that important, but I do get these emails On occasion and what I do is is I respectfully forward them over to her You know, I let the girl know I said, hey, you know, I'll reply back and I'll copy a cc my wife And I said I think you know my my sub Is probably a better person to help you and answer these questions And then I just turn it over to her and let her talk girl to girl Because I kind of have that that whole Mike Pence rule. I don't catch my I don't get caught talking to women privately I just don't do it No, I mean, we're we're at the point in our marriage man where I can just give my wife my cell phone, right? I walk away for five hours. I don't worry about anything. She reads right I guarantee you there's men and women watching this thing right now that was shutter at the thought of handing their spouse Her cell phone and walking away because you're fucking up or you're not acting right Right take it from grandpa here. Okay. Yeah Yeah, I'm telling you you know, you know, you're doing things you shouldn't be doing you're talking and flirting with people You shouldn't be talking and flirting to you know fix your stuff If you want to step outside like that go ahead and divorce first and then step outside and do your play time Right, but if you get to the point where you can hand your spouse your phone and walk away and not freak out about it You're probably at a pretty good spot in your marriage or your ltr You know, so yeah, I get a little wound up about that but Trust me, it's it's a it's a peaceful freaking feeling knowing that I'm who I am who I say I am and I my actions don't contradict that so I don't have private conversations with women just because that's temptation that Never turns out well for a married man. You know So well, how can everybody find you now? You did mention this? What is it again? It's texas dom.com texas dom.com Um, I've got a little youtube thing that I don't I don't do much on right now. I haven't lately Been trying to finish the book and all that But that's I'm on twitter at texas dom numeral one texas dom one But yeah, I mean I'm pretty easy to find so okay Well text I appreciate your time tonight and you have given me and everybody else a lot of information On a dominant submissive lifestyle It's not what everybody thinks it is and I hope this really kind of Brought some perspective to what what you have going on in your life and how you can help people Yeah, I hope it has because I mean I really do it's better than what you think it is If you if you don't really know what it is I'm here to tell you it's better than what you think it is on first glance Take a few minutes to explore and figure out what it's really all about Maybe it's good for you. Maybe it's not right. It's not going to be a prescription for every single person out there But there's going to be a handful of couples that this is going to save your marriage And so it's it's worth looking into I'll leave it at that Again, I appreciate your time texas and I'm glad we can make this happen Yeah, I'll see you at 21 in a couple weeks. Yes, sir. I'll be there Okay, thanks for your time. I appreciate it. You're welcome