 Today was a bunch of traps. Hey Alex, let me ask you is there still a my C cell going on for Memorial Day? I think we're we may have it for the last week guys, so take advantage is half off This is a chance to do it. You ever curious about my C stock market is man People say it's low people say oh, it's hard guys. We do the same thing every day. I'm green today I was green Friday knock on wood. Yeah, I've been green pretty much I probably think I've been like read only four days in the past three months knock on wood I don't want to jinx myself, but we do the same thing every day man when people say there's shit that's slow It's low because they don't know what the fuck you're doing There's so many different strategies so different styles to trade the markets are never slow It's only slow because we stick in our own niche and that's completely fine. We always teach you to start with one niche Make your money become consistent, but when you're consistent already Complacency is death That's why you see me trying all new sorts of things. I am pretty much a short-bias trader But I do long suit know it locked today and makes AMC Oeg things like that when I recognize that there's opportunity in the morning I go along So complacency is death guys if you ever become consistent with one strategy one niche Use these low times to learn because now what happens is never really slow for me because I could tell trade during the So, you know if your short seller is very dangerous to trade during zombie hours So but I know how to long a stock to so I go long sometimes during the zombie hours And then during during the midday where it's just really choppy people think it's choppy, but for me I love it. You know why it's called channel trading So I trade between the channels people go. Oh, I see all these guys these fruits gurus always talking about oh my god The markets there's so much manipulation out goes pick a direction already pick a direction I go. I don't give a fuck what direction it is as long as the stock moves If it moves with a channel, I will make money. I Prefer it in a channel. You know why it's safe It is safe trading Trading within a channels very safe compared to trying to figure out the top trying to figure out the bottom do all this stuff Right guys, so there's many different ways to trade And so we teach you a bunch of different ways to trade Not only we teach you that We actually that's what we do. We teach you that actually whereas the other people they alert you, right? So that cut leads me to this topic that we want to talk about today guys What happens when you're fucking through root? Doesn't show up for work. He's on vacation. Whatever else it is. What the hell you're gonna do? What if he gets caught on a sec scam and he disappeared you've just wasted thousands of dollars To to fucking to do what to not learn shit except to trade to learn what he wants to pump you right guys, so Are you self-sufficient as you sell that really are you really self-sufficient? Can you? trade Without a single alert can you trade without having someone to tell you what to do? I don't think most of you can I Don't think most of these guys in these chat rooms can We're worthy only ones they might see someone that do not alert. We do not pump. We actually educate you on How to trade so that that's why I don't need to show up to work sometimes You know other people have learned what I done and that's why we promote them to moderators If you take a look at our moderators they consist of Members Members who are trading the same style the same strategy the same process as Us So our methods our processes are what repeatable they work You know how I know that they work The moderators have the same charts as I do other members have the same charts as we do So it's repeatable it works They have the same exact trades as we do without us having to alert them and when I see that happen They post the charts in our room And when I see their charts looking like my charts and my charts are not that great their charts are even better sometimes, right? I Love it. It means that I my job is done I've truly truly educated and mentored someone to do a Ridiculously good skill that will change your life and their family's lives forever The moment I see that they have the same chart as I do Without me having to alert them It makes me so happy. It means that my job is done guys But where are these fooboo guys? Their charts do not look like any of their trader's charts because what they do is a they front load Then they get on the mic or they pump it on Twitter or they pump it through the $100,000 100 member 100,000 member rooms No one's gonna post a fucking chart. They're gonna show you that they've been accumulating for the past week to pump you or They fucking in 100,000 shares to scalp for 10 cents Ask yourself really ask yourself Do you know what the fuck you're doing? Even if you make money guys in these chat rooms the moment they disappear your toast Your only chance of survival is that if they are there pumping to you So what you end up being is the fastest sheep? The fastest sheep is still a sheep. I Rather be the slowest self self-fucking self-training individual, I mean, you know like I Want to be able to be able to do it myself? Okay, I don't need anybody. I don't want to be sheep I don't want to be the best sheep in the world. I what I want to do is a self-sufficient trader If I am a self-sufficient trader, it is up to me To make my own trades because I know what I'm doing and I am capable of doing that. That is true education guys Because I I longed on today. I saw a bunch of fruits not being in the room and I'm like, holy fuck So I was kind of pissed actually so example was like there's one big guy that I short all the time And I was a fucking thief someone says he's on vacation. I'm like, oh fuck So I'm pissed because of the big part of my income because he moves these pieces of shit stock up and I short them And I'm like there goes a big chunk of my income For the day, right? But you know what man? I'm a self-sufficient trader. I'm no sheep I only anybody trade so then I trade my own style. So but it's you know, my old style works It makes money But hey another way to make money is to trade off the sheeps But just but if that didn't happen today, I I will still be okay, but the sheep right now Where their leader is on vacation? They're screwed. They don't know what the fuck to trade. They're just sitting around like hey, where is so-and-so? We're so oh, it's not here today. Oh fuck. I Mean what the fuck you I thought you're here to learn Obviously those guys in those rooms are not there to learn they're there forget rich quick or go bankrupt Go big or go home fuck that go big or go home. I rather I rather just go slow, but but fucking never stop Slow and never stop slow steady wins the race guys consistency is what we preach self-sufficiency and stop being a sheep That's why we have these fucking cells to help you out Notice I'm not here Alex is here now. It's not here I'm here if Alex and I are not here tosses here if toss and all of us are not here the moderators are here we all have People that we have successfully trained using the strategies that we teach others So they're all trading our strategy our process and now it becomes their process their strategy and now they're teaching other members guys and That is true education. So I wanted to talk about this because I woke up today I was like where all these fucking fruits. I'm making money off Fuck that goes up. There goes a few thousand dollars. I make every day off of them, right? Literally I make a few thousand dollars every single day off of them not going but uh Any questions guys, I'm gonna slow it there. I think I want to bring Alex on real quick Alex You wanted to come on to talk about something We have a great thing guys. I forgot to post about this. We have a new program You know, maybe we have a member appreciation program and then I see that we always we love our members We give back our members. That's how if we that's how we had to meet ups We have free meet ups guys The pandemic kind of stopped that but we love our members you guys know that we're the only ones I show up fucking every day. I took a break from my trading right now to come out here looking like shit To talk to you guys every single Tuesday and Alex does it on Monday Tosh and I do it on Wednesday on the free free webinar tonight's Tuesday, so Joe does it on the On the webinar for large caps and options for m-i-c guys. So You know, no one does that man All right, I'm gonna go live with Alex Program we just implement So bro, bro, how you doing? Oh, I'm tired of talking So let me let me kind of explain a couple things. So what we're doing now guys is we are introducing something called the member of the month So we want to start to reward members who are helping other members most every single month This is additional to our member appreciation program. So basically this month We decided that Akeem a play I hope I'm pronouncing that For posting the daily chat logs for everyone to review every single day So Akeem, please dm oliver tan and he's gonna get you a bunch of m-i-c swag We want to continue to reward our members whether it's a swag Maybe we send you guys some money to go get a nice steak. Hey, Alex. Alex. I'll do I'll do one better We're gonna post them on our website. We're gonna have now a website member of the week every week We're gonna add one member to that list and so It's got to be in our website forever. How about that? That'd be fucking cool, right? We'll throw it on there So this is how it is man. It's like a recognition board guys We might throw some other badges on the board. That might be a great way for us to do it Alex Like, you know, like recognize whoever is helping out the community and then that's our batch batch thing Sir, sounds good. Also guys last day for the memorial day half off your first month The lake is on the website mindvestingclub.com. Check it out And that's basically it bro. So you have a lot of good topics to talk about today. All these stocks are still crazy It's just wow, bro Stocks are crazy and the main gurus the main mentors are nowhere to be found Talk about the zombie rule again in the watch list. I think that need to be reiterated Yeah, I mean, I don't want to give too much away because that's kind of our golden rule But yes, man every single day at 10 30 There is a big signal on these stocks that they are starting to reverse We do something called time-based trading Which means that for every couple hours on the trading day, we have We have a way to kind of trade it so the morning between 9 30 and 10 30 is for shorts You know 10 30 to 2 is belongs 2 to 3 is for shorts and 3 to 4 is Nothing So this is something that we review every single day that we teach people every single day And these will save our members a bunch of money Correct, and that's how we do it and the tab programs have helping people as well So I do want to reiterate this that people take this shit for granted guys People think trading is just about buying low selling high. That's bullshit because the problem is Where do you sell? Where do you buy the fruits don't even know these guys have no clue all they do is They have a hundred thousand members And they just buy where they want to buy and people have no clue all they do is chasing Yeah And so what happened today? Alex? What happened today? I haven't days. They don't know how to trade bro. They don't know how to trade because all they do is buy pumps And so what happens? The reason we talk about this is that we were we are in pretty much all these rooms as well Just kind of listening and laughing and they're like what the fuck's going on. I don't know what to do Yep, exactly, bro. Exactly. So I we do things differently and I would just say man. Try us out and you'll see for yourself Yep. All right. Cool. I want to bring one member on after I bring out you off. So thanks, man All right guys, who wants to come on raise your hand. It's been a while since I brought a member I would love to bring someone on that's just random If no one's come on then we'll be done. I'll get back to trading But um, I think someone wants to come on Talk about whatever you want to talk about your spirits is m. I see you don't have to be an m. I see a member All you need to do is raise your hand guys. All right. I'm going to go live with holo tarred Hola tarred Xander is um high school student. So it's never too early guys learn Never too early to learn Oh, I thought holo started to treat the easy client. Okay guys. I'm a brown daven Mr. Daven here A lot of times that I brought him on so it's good. Let's see how he's what's going on Hey, what's up brother? Mr. Bao. What's going on? Hey, you're always looking so good, bro Hey 1030. I'm 1030 at the gym. That's my rule, right? Getting away from the troop. That's true, bro That's my trade. The only the only trade I take is the dumbest heavier So tell us uh, so introduce yourself to people that don't know who you are and what's going on, man Hey, what's going on guys? My name is davron. I'm the og m i c member. I'm you know, I started with bow back in 2018 I believe right when uh When msc started So he's a day. He's a day one original man. They won out for a long time. M. I see you say I mean He's a Dude, you need a house in in sacramental area. He's a good realtor. So yes He's traced so I'm gonna plug him to hit him up. You know, this is supplemental income He doesn't do this full-time training, but it helps out Exactly. Oh, yeah Yeah, it was nice seeing you in vegas, bro. That was fun So tell us how do you juggle work? This might be a good question for you because a lot of people have a full-time job And you have a full-time job doing something else. So how do you juggle it and you know, how do you how do you even start Training when you have another job? It's definitely hard. So, uh, you know, I do real estate full-time obviously and uh, yeah, wake up Since being on the west coast, it's easier, right? I wake up at 5 a.m. You know, 4 45 a.m. So start getting ready right away I'm gonna stop you right there. I'm gonna stop you right there. You know, it's what you said It's easier, but you have to wake up at 4 45 some people who want to wake up at fucking 10 o'clock So that's the difference between daveron who's a successful guy And someone who's making excuses. So I post I tweeted something If you're gonna if you want to change your life, you make you make it happen If you don't want to you're gonna fucking find an excuse daveron is not making excuse What he did was he called it easy. He woke up is easy You know what the easiest part being successful in waking up But for us it's easy Well, other people's not but you know what the real hard part is When you wake up, what are you gonna do to wake it up guys? If you think that waking up is the hardest part You're fucking you're not a backward Right, it's fucking that's the easiest part of the day. Now we have to wake up and go make money That's harder, right? I love waking up at 5. It's I mean 4 45 right 4 30 4 45 because you know, it's you get you get they started early You you know make some money until uh 7 30 our time You're you're done with the market and you can go hit the gym and go work on your business You know real estate. Whatever you're doing. So So how to help you how you started man? Oh, yeah, how do you balance it good? Obviously, I was yeah, I was at the gym with my buddy and then we're talking about stocks and stuff And he mentioned tim Sykes. He's like, hey, do you know this guy tim Sykes? And then I was like, you know, who's that guy? and So he mentioned this and I started following him on instagram and I signed up for his penny stocking silver or whatever thing, right? um And actually I started doing pretty good. I I turned like initial 7k to like 14 or like, uh, no to like 20 something k um And then he kind of like he gave me a shout outs and everything like that and I kind of learned the basics But then I blew up right and I blew up and I kept losing I took my total loss was like 70 k or something like that Before I started, you know before I found you and I messaged you. I was like bow, you know, this thing happened I know you seem like you're you're really good, you know trading and and he gave me some advice You're like, don't give up. I just stick with it and you know come learn it in my m.i.c So I started learning at m.i.c. And it took me four years to finally become profitable this year. I I was pretty profitable until April April and may so April I take a I took some hits. I'm still up on the year I'm still up like a lot on the year, but I took may off To just clear my mind and I'm back here in june You know first day It's the same thing man, you know what you're doing the problem is when you become too successful too quickly You become arrogant and you forget what I took for you to get back to where you got so sometimes That humbling experience may be the best thing for you to bounce back up higher now Because now you're gonna make fucking sure that's not gonna happen again 100% get you know what I did pal Go for it I put I put a broker broker level stop loss at two and a half percent of my account value So that means I can't lose more than that even if I want to right even if I can't can't stop myself, right? Because before that I'm very profitable But on like there's one or two days that take me out that take out like two three weeks one month of work And if I can't eliminate those days I'm profitable, right? I'm super profitable because I know I can make money every day like today I'm 500 or 50 500 bucks green right and it's effortless, you know amc You know waited until it, you know, uh the stuff and then I uh, you know, shorted the following balances So think about this man 500 dollars a day. That's a hundred thousand dollars a year. You can do that every day Yeah, that's a lot of money bro. That's more than normal fucking jobs more than engineering, right? Yeah, and it's small size and and for me, that's a small size like I'm usually throwing a lot more size, you know But um, yeah, so like it's 500 bucks That's the thing like I get greedy and that's not good as well because I want to I want to get to your level Alex's level, right? But then the market puts me back like no, you're not ready yet. You're not ready yet Stay in 500, you know 400 range. So davin, you know, you know why because like once again, you're like Okay, I we always told you to put a max day loss, but you have not Yeah, you've been you've been successful without it Yeah, and and you broke the rules along the way to get there Exactly and you're blessed that you're still up for the year. Some people will lose their entire fucking bankroll Because they've been successful 99 days The hundredth day They fucking lose and they lose all their fucking money. That's what happens then Yeah, well, I'm glad that it took you long, but you finally did it at last To put in the risk management parameters Exactly. So after my initial blow-up, then my risk management became like very very good That's why I haven't been blowing up my accounts, right? I'm like, no, that's the last time I blow up So now I know like I had a max loss in mind But I would always like, you know lose a little bit more than that So like my max loss was like before $2,000 or $2,500 I would lose like $3,000 or $4,000 then it messed me up even more in a double amount So now I'm at I put my broker level stop loss at like $850, $850 bucks. So and I know I can make it back in a day or two or not exactly right That's exactly right, man. You do around two to three days max guys. What happens is this on the max thing? Okay, there's two ways when it hits that max day you lost Sometimes the broker doesn't liquidate for you unless you tell them you want to auto liquidate So then you you'll end up holding it because you're like I hit my last max loss I can't trade anymore. But what if I hold it even come back to me, right? And then you end up losing double your max loss all the time Exactly. So you need to set your max loss in my opinion around 70 to 50 lower than what your real max loss is So if you want a thousand dollar max loss, you put that shit at 700 800 bucks And if you're losing more than you know If you're trading like a 35k account and you're losing more than a 50 you're wrong on a day So stop trading the go leave and come back the next day. You're not you're not reading it correctly So the only thing that might happen is you keep losing losing losing and it's hard to make back 850 with you know If you're not reading correctly Plus your emotional bro Oh, yeah, that's your emotional everybody has a point where they become emotional Like for me losing interest is not but it could be like 10 grand them down So my so my stop loss can be 10,000 bucks for example, right? Yeah, because I'm thinking fun That's to me. That's more money than you know that I should be losing and so So what happens is this guy? So Davern hit it on the nail in the head. Okay The only reason this is the main reason that separates me From you guys is the fact that I am able to fucking cut my losses That is what that is the last hurdle guys for you to becoming a consistently profitable trader And the long term become a successful trader long term is that one difference? Okay, you're able when you lose Not to give back everything So so you you saw me every time I fucking lose I'm pissed, but I'm still green I was the best trader literally I mean It just I look at your charts and like how does he do that? I'm more of a reactive trader So I need the confirmation on the tape and before I can enter Well, I just can't do like fantasy orders for somebody's like I I tried him but like it's good, you know, but I'm you're scared You're scared. You're scared because because you have PTSD from the time you're wrong It could you're blowing up every every time you blow up You're every time you lose you blow up. That's why you're fucking scared every time I lose I know I'm not gonna blow up because I could cut my losses. I have the willpower You seem to say so to get to that hurdle Davern You must be able to this For a consistent amount of time not to lose or not to blow of your entire count when you lose you must be able to Take a hit a jab So you imagine like like what what's that the gypsy king's opponent Dante went wilder Oh, yeah, he never got fucking hit the moment you got hit one time. He's fucking yeah, I'm getting scared So you go to you know be able to learn to get hit So, you know the gypsy king guy that's that fury guy He got he got off the campus because he got hit so many times. He knows how to take a punch and not get knocked out So what you need to do is this size down It's okay It's okay to lose bro You know saying because what happens is this you cannot be fearful when you know, you're right the The fearful comes in the unknown It's I have PTSD too, bro I'm pulling up many counts when I started when I start thinking to when I start thinking too much. That's when I fuck up I just need to just do it because what happens is when the trade When you are not in the trade is when you can clearly think the best, right? Yeah, and so that's why I also have pre pre planning You I pre plan my fantasy orders because what happens is this those fantasy orders are made or placed When I'm not in when I'm not emotional So those fantasy orders in my opinion Have made me up most of my money It's when I start to panic and do shit in real time because I'm emotional. I'm greedy. I'm scared. That's what I've fucked up So what you should do is size down Do the fantasy orders Chassis orders small size Put your stomped out and then you're gonna notice. Oh shit. If I was wrong only down 100 bucks Yeah, I'm down 50 bucks So over time you're gonna realize hey that that fucking doesn't really hurt. I'm only down 50 bucks when I'm wrong That's no big deal. So my ptsd is kind of like fixed where Now because what happens now you're too scared to lose still bro When you get when you fucking lost you you're like frightened. You're like you don't want to blow up So what you need to do is be able to go to the fucking sparring sessions your gym and take these hits and realize when you can hit You're not gonna get knocked out if you do it, right? Because what happens if you're you're a fucking freak and you never get hit So when you get hit you're fucking free free. So That's your max loss Yeah, exactly do not do not be a fucking afraid to trade the right way Okay, and that's the only difference man. It's the only difference between me bro. You know what you're doing all right, man Of course, and would you say like pre-defining your like your Not just max loss, but like Loss for every trade is also like, you know, helps you do that too, right? You you can do however you want to do. Yeah I've been doing that. So what I'd also do is this okay max size. I think max size is more important The max size will limit your max loss. Yep, exactly. Exactly. So so if you want to short and locate your max size Don't go over that because you know Because if if you're fucking max size of five to share, how much can you talk to you lose? It goes up a buck. It's a five hundred bucks Yeah, so that's that's how you do it, man. I on these stocks. I'm scared I don't locate the the size that I want. I just look at a little fucking smelly chair That's a really wow guys. Take notes. It's really good proper sizing, right? It's the best risk management So so, you know, you have you what you do you put multiple layers So I'll give you example you jumping in a parachute from a plane The guy has a main parachute and he has a backup parachute You know say and so I go for what's that further? I have a fucking safety net too And I jump with like three other guys and help me out You know, you can't just have one one thing max day loss is just one thing A hard stop is just one thing. You know you layer. I call layering risk. Okay. We have videos on this how to layer risk so Do what it fucking takes and get a tab sometimes you you fucking You know, you need a tab because what's gonna do is like I I've heard members Call brokers to remove their mac loss. No, I don't know Fuck you fuck. Yes, bro I have guys fucking telling me they do that So what's the point? But you know what man that's human psychology, right? You're fucking so pissed off. You're event trading And then that's that's why I'd get seen these psychosis. That's how these guys, you know, they they see red And they're just fucking crazy. That's how they kill people and you know shit like that So sometimes you need a friend to pull you the fuck out. That's what happens, so And and we provide that in m. I see right we have tab programs So as soon as you join you can go on tab, uh, you know channel you can you know, you can find your match up with the tab Yep, you know what tab is that it's your wingman. You're clubbing wingman Accountability buddy training So he's got if you're if it's last call and you're hitting on someone that you're not supposed to be hitting Exactly Your wingman you're clubbing accountability, buddy You're hot Hot chicks only one in the club All right, brother. Thank you for coming on. All right. Hey, I'll see you Everyone if you have any questions DM me, um, you know, I'm a member. I've been a member since day one Um, if you have any questions about m. I see you want to get a member's experience. Hit me up, uh, davron Or real estate or real estate? Yeah Yes, thank you so much. Bye. Bye. All right, man. See you back. Bye All right guys, I want to end it there. That's a good note layering risk Well, that's what davron did man. He he didn't shy away from admitting he lost He told people he blew up He's not ashamed of it because you know what man loss does not define who you are You know what defines who you are is his ability to bounce back To recognize and own the loss and bounce back All right, guys, we'll see you back in ig next time but tomorrow Is the free webinar that toss and I will do at 2 p.m. Market time. So we'll see you tomorrow. See you guys