 Okay, welcome back. I think we'll just wait for the recording to start. There seems to be some issue, but I think we'll just get started and just keep an eye on that. Yeah, so we were looking at how do we, we identify different forms of abuse, and we also looked at what are some of the warning signs, what are some of the warning signs of abuse as well. Just before we move on to understanding some ways that you could help, I think it's also just to have an understanding of how do we recognize some signs of abuse. So we do, like we've noticed and we said that it is a very sensitive subject for people to talk about to deal with whatever the nature of the abuses or whoever the perpetrator is. It's important, however, to spot what the signs are and how you can find support. Number one is to understand that people with any kind of care or support needs, especially those who are elderly, people with disabilities are generally more likely to be the ones who are abused or neglected. They're generally seen as an easy target and are probably the less likely to report. A history of abuse or violence in the background of the perpetrator is another sign, is a deltay sign. Like many abusers themselves would have been victims, but whatever the reason may be, it does not give it any chance to excuse that behavior. It is not right to threaten, to frighten or to bring about any form of assault or harm to others. Abuse also is something that happens slowly and it's not something that you may see immediately. One of the main characteristics of abusive relationships is, like we said, is control, which is often achieved through force or through manipulation. In your interaction with people, if you suspect that a relationship is overly controlling, you may begin to see the signs of coercive behavior or you notice that someone's behavior is changing. It's good to be there to be the right kind of support. If you suspect that someone is being abused, the important thing to do is ask them how they're doing and they may not really truly open up to you at first place, but they will at least know that you are there to support them and that there is a comfort. Also looking for physical signs of abuse, especially if they are those who are, you know, if it is the physical violence or physical injuries, that's something that you can keep yourself. You can look out for as well. Now, before we go into what is it as a counselor that we do, I just want to probably bring about some, especially when we're looking about domestic violence or physical abuse. I think it's important for us to have an understanding as believers. What is the understanding that we have of a problem like domestic abuse and what does it look like? The first thing to bring about is to know that even as a person is talking to you that an abuser is one, someone who will exhibit that disrespect, control, insult, devaluing their partner and which can of course involve physical, verbal aggression or even sexual maltreatment. Now, I think what we need to also understand is, can we say abusers, do abusers, do these abusers have hope? And I'm specifically talking about violence also. Now, depending on the nature and the severity of what the abuse may be, there may be need to be a period of a no contact period with the abuser or a restricted contact. Now, what does this do? Is this allows the members of the family to concentrate on their own personal healing and their growth without the pressure of needing to interact with the party who is offending or the fear of it happening once again. Once the abuser has spent time to really go in for some kind of help or treatment or also is showing the willingness to change or willingness to work through things, a spouse probably should then only choose to begin to interact or start again coming into contact with the partner. Again, the decision should not be made too early or in isolation. And I think that's where a Christian counselor and maybe a pastor or trusted people can help the victim to see red flags and to know when is it that trust or reconciliation can be carried out or whether it is premature or whether it is unwise. You know, we need to understand that the abusers can conceal their abusiveness when they want to. After all, you know, after all that, you know, they can they can ensure that they keep that under wraps. So, but an abuser who has not truly changed how he perceives or how he thinks can often get back into the same pattern and can deceptively ensure that, you know, the spouse comes back home like, you know, promises or, you know, making huge claims. But unfortunately, we see that sometimes when they're back, this brings it, it worsens the entire thing the abuse worsens, because now it could be very angry and upset for putting the person through all of that. So, you know, through statistics now I'm telling you what statistics is that generally abusers changing are low. And it is important for the spouse to remember that they may be tempted to believe that everything is okay, or, you know, hangs on this desire that there's going to be a miracle and stay in that relationship. So it does not mean that you do not pray or look at God to bring about a supernatural change. But it is to know that, you know, change happens only when the abuser also allows God to bring about a change in heart. Because, you know, the entire outcomes of abuse is so, so hard and so devastating that, you know, the spouse should be empowered to really see a proof of change before believing in it. So the question again becomes, okay, what happens? Do you join these people together or not? So to also know that regardless of however bad the abuse has been and however, you know, how much of hurt or maltreatment there has been, you're helping the other person to forgive just as God has forgiven us. However, forgiving may not mean that the victim should put themselves back in the way of the abuser. It does not mean that, you know, living together or being staying with the person who has not repented and changed his thinking or changed his way is something that you should move back into. So if a spouse, an abusing spouse gets the help they need and is being transformed and the wounds of their partner is also healing, then we know that reconciliation is possible. But I would again say the wisdom of being reconciled after having an abuse should be considered on a case-to-case basis. You may not be able to say that all people who've been abused should reconcile and live together. There are very many cases that there should be appropriate understanding and counsel as it goes through a reconciliation process. So someone, a spouse who does not have to reconcile with someone who has abused them and need not be in a place of shameful or a spiritual indictment if they choose not to do so. Because, you know, we do see that a lot of times in different cases, the extent and the severity and the pain and the multiplication of abuse, it may just not be physical. It could be other kinds of issues as well. To also understand that abuse, so something that we need to know is that domestic violence or abuse is not a marriage problem. It's not a problem within the marriage. It is not something where you give them marriage counseling and things will be different. Domestic violence or physical violence in a marriage is a problem of the abuser, is a problem that the abuser has. And I think a lot of people struggle with this truth because they are aware of their own weakness. So maybe the spouses feel they have led the physical abuse to happen. And these abusers take advantage that the blame has been taken on by the victim and continues to perpetrate that entire thing. And they may, at the point of time, get them to accept that blame. So as professional counselors and, you know, as ministers, especially when they are not in reality with what domestic abuse and violence happens, we may really, you know, sometimes in a need to help, we end up working alongside with the abuser. During a counseling session where an abuser is present, you may find the partner finding it extremely difficult to articulate with any specific ability or force on what is happening to them. And they may feel quite intimidated, particularly if the minister or the counselor is very sympathetic to the manipulative abusers' complaints about their spouse. And this can often become add-on to the injury. So what you're looking at is individual counseling for an abuser should be targeted at changing the abuse of thinking and behavior. And that is the best source of action that you will need to look on, along with, of course, prayer and working through the word. Only when you see sincere prolonged change in the abuser would any kind of marital counseling have any kind of an effect. But on the other side, the spouse and maybe the children, they could benefit from getting probably shelter and support and, you know, working on the emotional healing and emotional pain. So that's something that, you know, I just wanted to bring about to understand. With regard to sexual abuse, I think one way to, this is not about counseling, but this is about knowing also how to prevent and deal with it. So even in things like physical violence, especially when, you know, when you are doing premarital work, it is important to help couples look through how they cope during stressors. What have been their coping patterns? And there are certain red flags that red flags that may be evident during, you know, the process of courtship, the process of dating. And these are things that definitely need to be highlighted and bought forth. So what are some of the red flags that you would notice in couples and in the way that couples deal with stress? How do they cope with stress? Now to come to come about sexual abuse as well. One of the important things, even as ministers, as people within a church community to do is to help not just parents, but even educators and, you know, ministers, all of that to bring about a knowledge that children need to be empowered about their bodies. And about knowledge of their bodies and what is acceptable, what isn't acceptable. And that's where sex education plays a huge role, not just in, you know, in settings where, like in institutional settings, but even at the home. Being able to educate children about sex and sexuality is the role of a parent to start young. That does not mean you tell a two or a three year old child about the process of sexual intercourse. That's not what it means. But for them and that there are graded ways in how you bring about an education. So as young as they may be two years old is number one is to be able to make them aware of their body parts and help them see that each of their body parts are as important. As any other part of the of the other body and that it is not treated with shame, but in fact double on and like how scripture says, you know, you treat them with double on and that's why they aren't exposed and they are kept private. So to give them an insight like that to help them see that every body part is God given God God made and to be given its due respect and not just their own bodies, but the bodies of the other other also. And as they grow up a bit more, maybe when they're three four years old is to help them see that it cannot be violated. Nobody else can, you know, touch or do anything without do anything that is uncomfortable for them without their consent. And if that were to happen, it should be reported or it should be bought about. So the freedom to expose children to that knowledge and that understanding is a role that, you know, parents need to take up to help them see that these body parts are their own and cannot be violated cannot be touched unless and of course until it is for a bath by significant caretakers like the parents or whoever else is instituted there or for a doctor's visit or things like that, you know, so that kind of a knowledge base is what we what you need to give also educating parents of helping the child to determine when they are uncomfortable about body touch, like, you know, very often, especially in our Indian customs, I've seen that parents have encouraged young children to go give hugs to maybe to probably an uncle or an aunt that that that has come in for a holiday. When the child is truly uncomfortable. So to be able to give the child the the freedom to to do that should, you know, really enhances their understanding that, you know, I can I have. I am able to put my sir put boundaries or put those limits on who can who can physically express their love or or, you know, attachment to me. So, so as parents being careful, and I would also say when you know, especially when we are as a part of church and things, we often go and maybe hug the child carry the child, and they are wriggling out and you're holding them tight, you know, be be wise in doing that and, you know, ask the child permission, can I carry you or would you like to give me a handshake or can I give you a hug, you know, and it is it is respectful to us that and if they say no be respectful enough to keep away from that. Right. Or, and as best as possible engage with them only, you know, which is acceptable, you know, like a handshake or a or a head tap and all of that and nothing more than, you know, something that makes a child uncomfortable. The fact here is how do you, how do you help children to understand what could be abused is anything that they feel uncomfortable about anything that they do not experience a good and a warm feeling about is is definitely something that you will you know, you will help the child to discern. And of course, and anybody who touches them at the specific private parts is something that is should should be educated. And as they keep moving on giving them more information about about sex and sexuality and you know as they progress into the pre teams and into the teen years, keeping that knowledge a lot more specific and true and even honest for that matter of recently I was doing a workshop for parents for mothers, and there was a question that was, you know, I had asked the mothers and said, you know, what if your four four year old child comes and ask you, mom, where did where are babies born? What would you say? And a lot of the parents said I bought you from the hospital or God put you in my stomach or you know, you came out from my stomach. Now, you know, you've got to be a little more smarter in answering your questions because there's going to be a point of time that you know if you haven't given your child the right information they will seek it from somewhere else, because it wasn't satisfactory. So some of these things are, you know, just just pointers to to help. These are all preventive techniques, you know, things that you do so that you do not actually, you know, get your child to be in a place where they they could potentially be abused. Okay, any questions here. If not, we will go on to the last part of what can we do how could be how could how can be help when someone does approach us in, you know, with with any of these issues, any questions, or I can go on. Okay, there aren't any questions. Okay, so what do we do when how can you help. Okay, so the first and foremost thing is when someone comes in and tells you their story, it's important to trust and believe and listen to the story. Okay. Many, I can, I can actually tell you, at least of 10 councillors who come you will have seven or eight councillors who share, you know, especially those who have been abused share and say how when they have approached an elder or a caregiver like a parent or a teacher. They have not been listened to and they've always been faulted for the fact that they've come in and said a story like that, you know, so they've, they've been sent back saying maybe you're imagining things or that uncle is too good to do anything like that, or, you know, what are you thinking in order to make the abuse of behave like this to you. So remember, whenever someone comes and shares this with you, the idea that the point is to believe it, believe it, listen to what they have to say and confirm and and appreciate the fact that they have come to you with that situation. Now, even if you may know the person that is involved. And again, these are stories that you would have someone talk to you and say, you know, this is a this is a man of God who's done it or the leader who's done it or a you know, someone in a pastoral group that's done it. Even if you can't believe that the abuser could do this, it is important to keep an open mind and give the opportunity for them to tell their story. Okay, it is it is very, very crucial that you do it because that, like I said, there have been so many times people have not taken help because they've been put off by the way that that those in power and authority and help could have helped them in some way. Okay, the next thing is that, you know, be conscious of the fact that they may not see themselves as people who are abused, and to help them see that what has gone with them has been wrong. And that is was unkind that was not the right thing to do. And it is important, it is important to label the what the abuses named the behavior for what for what it is without actually attacking the abuser so like for example, you know, you have been sexually violated or you have been emotionally hurt through somebody's behavior so you're not what you're helping them to see is that the abuse in itself is absolutely wrong and that's something that that shouldn't have happened also to make them aware that it is not their fault. It is not their fault that they are in a place like that, and that that you, you, you will do, especially when it comes to children, you will do the best that you can to help and to protect them in whatever way possible. Okay. Again, to appreciate their courage in bringing about this, this situation to you, and that that by doing so that they have done the right thing that by by seeking that help that they have done the right thing. It's important to also know a little bit more so ask questions about whether the abuse is even currently going on, and what has been taken place in the past so you to have a good history of it to probe into it is perfectly okay, because you have a better picture of, of what kind of a danger the person is in. Okay. It's important to continuously be supportive. Okay. And also, now, especially when, when you're dealing with children, it is a children or adults, it is important to give them options on how they can make better decisions. So it really also matters now if you're having a very young child, let's say a six or a seven year old child who's coming to you. There may be certain things that you may need to take a bit of, you know, a proactive step on one is to be able to enlist the support system that is there and the child is in the environment. Okay, so that is the thing you have to do. Who, who all are there in your environment that you can actually go and share this with. Okay, that's one. Secondly, is if, if there is immediate danger. Like, for example, they are staying with the person. It may be important to intervene in such a way to keep them away from that abusive environment also. So that would mean taking the help, you know, getting the support of the child and taking the help of one caretaker to ensure that they are in a safe space. So it is, so even your, this is maybe certain things that you're doing with the child, but let's say if it is, if it is a person who's being physically abused, it is important to give them options and help them make that decision so that they themselves will be responsible for that decision and not saying, you know, you must leave the home and get out. You know, they may say, I did it because they did it. And then, you know, if they have to get back in some, some way back to the house, it can get significantly difficult. Okay. The, the, the exception to all of this is if there is, if their lives are in danger, it is important to take action so that they are in a safe space. The next thing that is important to do is keeping the conversation confidential and not contacting the abuser. Okay. And discussing this, especially, especially if they haven't given you permission and even talking to the, to the, to the abuser in front of the victim. So the best thing is not to be able to not to give away any information. But of course, if you need to endless support from somebody, that's something that you know you take permission to do and get the right person to involve so that you know there is safety that is provided. Again, it's important, especially in times of physical abuse and sexual abuse, not advising them to return home, you know, to, to change things with the abuser, because they, you know, they could, the next time, you know, they could just land up being dead. Right. So never advising them that it is Christian for you to go home and forgive and reconcile and do what they say. Remember, we said it's not a marriage issue often. It is, it is the issue with the, with the abuser. Okay. Now, in case the victim does choose to return without, despite your advice, make sure that they have some ways of how they can get in touch with you if they require help. Maybe, you know, also being able to follow up or finding, helping them to find ways in getting connected to somebody else who can help them through this. The point is ensuring that there isn't a force on anything and that they need to be ready to make whatever decision or be responsible for the kind of situations that that may need to follow. Okay. So these are at least definitely some things that, as lay counselors, as lay ministers that that you can do. It is important to, especially if you are in a minister role and you have a senior pastor, it is good to get the support and the help of the senior pastor so that you can work in as a team to work through issues of abuse, any kind of physical, emotional sexual abuse. So, I'll give you an example of one such, such family where there was significant physical abuse between the parent and the child. The child is around 17 years old. And, and the mother was the one who came in with help. However, she was unwilling to take any kind of a support system. But over time, the best way that she found dealing with it is to keep the child away in another relative's house and keep that, you know, keep the child away from the parent and that worked for some point of time and that helped in the way that they dealt with it. But remember, you know, you cannot go, you do not force them into making a specific decision that they may not be ready to make. Okay. Any questions up until here? Okay, now in every, like in every situation, how do we, how do we as believers help is help them. One is to help people go through their journey of healing. Okay, there is, like we said, extreme emotional trauma. And the, what you point them back is to finding God's power, God's healing, God's word, as they, as they go through the process of transformation. And this is not a one day affair. Okay, this is not something that can be done within one or two settings, but this may be a mentorship that happens for some period of time. Okay, so plugging them into different forms of, you know, getting support from, from like minded people maybe into a cell group, getting support through a Christian counselor, getting them into activating the word over their lives. You know, engaging in maybe special schools and special ministries where they receive their healing. Basically getting them back to scripture, getting them back to the word of God through all these difficulties through different methods and through different means. Where they are able to really experience the hope that they have in Christ, despite what is going on, coming to a place of forgiveness and being able to release and resolve those emotional wounds that are there. And again, you know, this sometimes takes, takes years to happen, even though, you know, and I know that we've evolved or experienced some kind of emotional wounds and we do see that, you know, there are seasons that we feel extremely healed and completely set free. And, you know, with smaller issues that come up, these things come up again. So to be able to renew and transform, to progressively keep being in a place of sanctifying your heart and your life with the truth. So just being able to apply the word of God in different ways and different situations is very important. And of course, through counseling or through work, what you're doing is also helping them to improve their relationships with the people that have been affected. Now this is only if it is absolutely necessary. Like for example, if there is a child who's been abused by an uncle, there is absolutely no need to improve that relationship. But then just within the family, maybe, you know, those who are other key members of the family or people where relationships have been messed up as a result of things over time is what you would engage in, but not with the abuser and the victim. That's something that we, especially if it is something to do with the sexual contact and things like that. But yes, in physical violences, like we said, I think we discussed about that. Reconciliation is something that you would look on a case to case basis. However, you know, each individual definitely requires a time of healing and a time of emotional wholeness before they can reconcile into the relationship. But forgiveness and releasing of those wounds is definitely something that you work through even in Christian discipleship and counseling. Okay. All right, I have come to a close over here is so we have around five to 10 minutes, and we could just take some time to maybe quest answer any questions or any doubts or any clarifications any observations. The class has been awfully quiet today. No questions. Ma'am, this is a little scenario where, you know, the couple is both retired people. But, you know, the wife doesn't even know that, you know, what she's been facing through all these years has been kind of abuse. Like people generally take it as a nature of a person, you know, he has this kind of a nature, you know, where they are dominating where they are manipulating where they are being, you know, very controlling in nature. So, you know, women, they just try to put things in right place so that the family is not affected and they're not even aware that it is some kind of an abuse where they need help. And so they have, they never approach outside for help or something and they just continue but eventually there is those signs which ma'am you shared like anger or, you know, depression and anxiety takes over. And in that case, and since it's been like maybe 35 years of marriage, 40 years of marriage, they become so used to that kind of a lifestyle where they think now what is the use of getting any help or coming out of it. They've almost lost so many years and now we are used to, you know, what is going to happen, but they are suppressed, they are so much in, you know, anxiety and the impact on the family is great of it, like the children. They also suffer similar patterns of life. So ma'am, how can we help such a person like in that scenario? Of course, one thing that you have formed, which I also found was listening to them, you know, pouring their hearts out, but after a point of time, you know, that there is a repetition of just listening. They have the same stories to tell, they have nothing new because for them, it is just a part of life and just, you know, gives a temporary relief when they pour out their hearts, but they don't have any significant change in their relationship or in their overall scenarios. And the life is like so mechanized that, you know, coming out and taking a decision means a big change and not everyone is prepared to go through that change in order to bring something in better in their life. So ma'am, how can we help such people, especially when, you know, maybe you've known them from your childhood and you've observed those things, but you don't know how to help them. Yeah, so I think, you know, it is difficult, especially when you see elderly couples who have just lived very many years in such a destructive dysfunctional pattern that they may not be as much as physical abuse than they may be emotional as they grow older. But then, you know, you will see the manifestations of it, of how the affected spouse begins to pay back. I've seen many, many couples where you see the affected spouse pays back in some way, especially when there is weakness in the, you know, in the abuser of the past. They pay back in the sense of the drawl of love or the drawl of, you know, even, even just interactions and they kind of get into their own space and their own lives and everything is so, so isolated. And you see that this has come as a result of the hurt and the pain that has built up over years. Now, the question is, by empowering them, is there going to be any difference? Like, for example, let's say an old man of 78 and an old woman of 75. What's the idea of keeping them apart from one another because of, let's say, emotional issues that have happened in the past? You know, either of them are going to, it is not a scenario that is going to be practical in itself, right? Because as you age, you need one another for the sake of just probably living, maybe kids aren't around and all of that. So, how much does the separation and all of that really work? I don't think it does. Okay, so we may need to use a lot with more of wisdom and practicality. And one thing, like you said, yes, listening is one thing that you do. The other thing that I definitely found helpful is, you know, and this is great if couples, maybe younger couples or middle-aged couples can minister. Two older couples, you know, in ways where these discussions or these things are bought up or, let's say, some form of like a mini life group that happens between couples, that can be extremely edifying when you work through, especially through couples like this. Just to help older couples or whatever, middle-aged couples work together with some other couple who is able to take them through their everyday walk of life. Do people like this take professional help? In fact, you will see that a lot of them don't want professional help because, you know, for the very reason that you said that, you know, they're ready to finish their life. Basically reconciled with that scenario. With the scenario or that the fact that nobody else can actually, who can tell me anything what to do? I mean, you know, how is a young person going to really speak? So what needs to be, what I see is most effective is when there can be normal people, you know, or people in different walks of life being integrated into their life and working things out alongside with them. You know, establishing communication, establishing openness, establishing certain, you know, codes of how do we behave and talk to each other and all of that can happen, you know, just in conversations, in normal sitting room conversations with other couples. So I think that seems to be the most effective one. If, you know, as ministry couples could just work alongside with older middle-aged couples, it really can help. The other thing that I've often also seen is when children step in. When children step in and begin to see the inequality that's been there and children speak into the lives of the abuser parent, you know, that also is something that works. So children step in like those counselors within the home that sometimes also is useful. Then of course, you know, pastors, but again, you have to walk life with them. Not just do it on a one-off basis because it's only as you walk life with them, do they open up and do they share and you're able to speak into their lives. And I see those are probably the uncharted, the unprofessional, the, you know, not the bookcase, the classical textbook case, interventions generally don't help. It's these daily, day-to-day interactions that really bring about some form of change and some form of awareness. Thank you, ma'am. But one point which I missed out in this particular case is the whole issue of needing help began when their, you know, middle-aged son tried to commit suicide. So the impact of the family thing was seen in this way. It came out when, you know, they only could ask for, the mother could, you know, ask for help when she found that the father is hostile towards even that particular need of the child. Continuously threatening, not only threatening, he tried, he was by grace of God saved, but he is going into that mode again and again. And because the father is not willing to take any help, external help, and a very, very, very difficult scenario where, you know, the mother is completely helpless. One side she's seeing the son suffering. On the other side, the father not taking any step to bring about any help or any change. So it was very difficult. So I think in cases like this also, like we say, if there is, you know, just like you would recommend separation, something that you would probably recommend with the son is to stay apart from the family and work on his own issues. You know, because if you are, if the son is in an environment in a toxic environment where there is significant abuse and, you know, any form of belittling and all of that that happens, it isn't a healthy home. Right. So, because, I mean, it's easier for a child to stay separate than for a spouse to. But, you know, recommending that doing that till the point of time that he can have healing of his own before reconciliation can take places is something that you would also look into. Like, remember, these are all case by case basis. Okay. Don't don't think that you know every family where there, where there is an issue between parents, there should be a, you know, that they should stay apart. I think it's a case by case basis. If you are in a toxic, if you are in an unhealthy dysfunctional system where where you would see the symptoms of a child for a child or an adult child worsening. It's important to keep them away for some point of time till they can work on themselves and find healing of their own. So that's something that also in a quite unconventional but but maybe that's that's a possibility. Yes, that's true. Thank you so much. Yeah. Okay. All right, let's just close with a word of prayer and real close to this class. Heavenly Father, we thank you Lord for bringing us to this place of of help. Lord, we see around many people who suffer and go through significant difficulties. Close walls of their home. Lord and Lord, sometimes when we look at whatever happens around, we feel helpless. But God, we know that you are a God of hope. You are our living hope. You are the one who restores. And even as you have placed your spirit inside of us, maybe be Lord, that one person who is able to just bring comfort and strength by your word into the lives of the hurting. Lord, even as we step into these different situations, life situations, we pray that we will be there like a supernatural beacon of light. Father that that every work of the enemy will be dispelled every fleshly carnal nature. Lord will be destroyed and only the truth of your word and truth Lord will prevail in these homes. Lord, we pray Lord for all of the students here who are represented on this call, whatever forms of difficulty they may be going through. Lord, you know each heart, you know the lives, the personal, private lives of each person here, Father. God, we pray Lord, even as we look up to you, lift our hands to you Lord, we pray that you will send Lord your wisdom, your guidance, your strength, your miracles in the lives of your people. Lord, everyone who is in abusive, difficult, assaulting relationships, Father either through either through the presence of an abuser or because of other conditions in Jesus name. We pray Lord for the release of your power over their lives and over their situations. Lord, we look to you God for changes. You have, you desire for us to live a life of abundance, abundant joy and abundant peace. And we pray and we seek your peace in our relationships, in our homes, in our lives. Thank you because we can look to you and you've asked us Lord to ask of you and that you will give unto us when we ask according to your will and to your desire. Father, we know Lord that you desire that our homes, our relationships Lord be one of love, be one of endurance, be one Lord of unconditional sacrifice and we pray and we ask God that you will instill this in our homes. Thank you for your goodness even as you send us out into this world, maybe be effective ministers of your work, effective ministers of your love and your peace. We ask all these things in your precious name. Amen. Thank you everybody. God bless and we shall meet next week. Thank you. God bless. Thank you ma'am. Amen. Thank you pastor. Thank you.