 This is still one in the morning and we are on career talk talking about tapping into the hidden potential And for that we have been joined by Sarah Muni who wears many hats But for this particular conversation She is a life coach and we just want to know what she does You know we have mentioned so many titles and everything so we'll be having your Instagram page Just to see what you do as you tell us more about it how you started and where you are now. Yes So, well how I started on this part of career coaching and And in life coach so first of all I for me. I didn't know anything about this I didn't anything about coaching. I didn't anything about mentorship or anything about, you know I didn't know that I did a Bachelor of Science in IT and I was in the IT world Until I met a life coach and I went through a personal development program and from there I think the rest has been history and I think I would say I mean the years that I have seen most growth in my life has been, you know, after meeting that, you know After going through that process of personal development, you know And because it brought out so many things out of me, you know, it's just unbelievable And many people started telling me Sarah, I bet you are in IT. What's happening? I say, yeah, then I found my true north I found my true north. Yeah Okay, so would you say you are in the wrong career. Yes, I was in the wrong career I was in the wrong career. I didn't even align with my personality First of all, I even started, you know, I used to sit in the server, configuring servers, pinging machines And for me, I'm a bubbly person. I feel best when I'm out there with people So I used to wonder why, you know, I don't like it. I never knew about personalities at that time So the career was not even aligning with my personality and that's why you find most people Somebody is an extrovert and then you are an accountant Rambas details. Yeah, very frustrated. Okay, so your personality should indeed go with your career Because you'll be frustrated if otherwise. Yes, and by the way, that's why we take that conversation even in high schools You know for students to know this is my personality and these are the careers that can go with my personality Okay. Yeah. All right I see you are public figure, life coach, social entrepreneur, servant, leader, leadership and change management Expert, international conference speaker and trainer, Pan-African leader, so many hats that you hold there Yeah, they couldn't fit Okay, talk to us about, just to mention, servant, leader and leadership and change management, expert Yes. So first of all, and let me say this, everybody's a leader Everybody's a leader. Everybody's a leader So when you hear leaders being called, please don't look behind, don't look in front Just look at yourself, stand and say that it is you. Yes, because if you can lead yourself, you can lead others So I'm a leader in many organizations as well I have an organization called Youth in Africa and we do have presence in all the countries across the continent We do a lot of skills training for youth. I'm a leader in so many organizations I think I have my company called Lead ProAfrica Consultants, so many global business around table as well So I think for leadership, I don't just teach it because I teach and I train. I've experienced it You've lived it. Yes, I've lived it And you see the best kind of leadership is servant leadership. It's leadership by example You know, you are there to serve. It's not there for prestige To give orders in your area No, I give orders and sit somewhere on a high tower. No. It's work. It's serving people It's all about service and just to take you back to where you started You said it started all when you found it when you found your life coach and it started from personal development Yeah, it was through a process of personal development. Then I realized, you know what this is what I should do Again, I need to keep on learning this and I need to do this again and again And then as I kept on speaking to people, I'd go from high school to high school I've been to over 100 high schools just speaking to students I've done so many public lectures in universities that said, this is it for me. This is it You know, so it was not like it just happened to you know what this is what I'll do for the rest of my life If this is it was a process I went through of discovering and then I realized, you know, what this is it Okay, yes So talk to us about personal development for someone who's who hasn't heard about it before. What does it entail? So personal development is basically the process of bringing out your gifts talents and abilities out and You know, we have gone through in school We've gone through a process of being told things things being pumped into you The world is like this like this and like this you need to know that so personal development is a process of now bringing out The potentials out of you. You put now that potential is speaking about. Let me say this a lot of dreams I think I think the largest grave In the world is at the level of potential Okay, that's where a lot of dreams die at the level of potential and at the level of ability I can do this because most people are not able to translate that potential into action so that it can help, you know So that's why you need people who can actually push you a lot of dreams are lost and die it the level of potential I know a potential to do this. I had potential of becoming this. I had potential of doing this I know I can do this I can do that But you just don't do it and you don't even know how maybe to bring it out That's why you need to work with mentors and you want to work with life coaches or people who can just push you to bring that out So personal development is that process or bringing out the the best version of you bringing out those potentials and those gifts and abilities and Out of you so that they can be they can help you and they can also help other people Okay, and there's self-esteem inside personal development Especially when you're going through coaching That's one of the things you need to work on on a process of personal development And the people who are very low self-esteem because of maybe mistakes you've made in the past or things situations that you found yourself in the past So your self-esteem you need to have a very high service team and self-belief That you are enough and you can you are in the world at the right time if you're maybe working In a certain organization you to I mean the right place for me to bring out the best version of me I mean the best place to thrive, you know, and I saw a very nice good somewhere of you know I'm that says drive where you're planted and then it has a picture of like a plant Growing at the cleft of a rock in the very unlikely places. It's driving and it's growing It's going life. So you need to be somewhere where you are driving and you are growing And it's not always good to always complain that you know what this I didn't want to be here For that time that you are there give your best Okay, yeah, even if you're doing something that see it's not for you. You don't like it for that time that you are there Give your best even as you seek to if you really want you to seek something and give your best be known for excellence Be known for excellence don't give half-hearted service just because you don't like you study journalism You ended up in sales. So everything is since you hated everything is Give your best those people young. You have no idea where you meet those people that's here So you need to give your best in everything that even as you seek for your true north like me Just give your best as you seek your true north. Okay taking that home and now for someone now What I want to ask on still on so personal personal development. Yeah, personal development and self-esteem. So how does one? I Identify mentors because you said that there's a place for mentors. Yes in your in your growth How do you and it's identify mentors because for life coach? I know as for some they may think it's hard to get them because maybe of the pay and Something like that. How do do you identify mentors and even life coach if you can? Yeah, so for mentors you need to look for somebody who has succeeded in the area of your passion Yes, so lucky for you if you're a journalist you need to get a journalist who you admire who has succeeded you are The way experienced they are older the way experienced and somebody who has succeeded basically Succeeded in the line of your career or in the line of your profession or passion That's the person and it's good. You get somebody who you can be able to reach I know you can say or I will follow who I don't know who are the international journalists from BBC But are you able to reach them? You can observe them from afar You need somebody who you can also be able to reach that person will help you more in terms of being able to tell you You know at this point you can step on this You know stone step on that step on that make this step make that step, you know And you will go through your career with making with very less mistakes you make less mistakes You might make mistakes, but less less because I have learned from somebody's successes and failures Yeah, so get somebody who has succeeded in the area of your passion. That's a mentor and then even for coaches You need to get somebody who? possibly somebody who is able to Get out. I mean who doesn't you know the people who just praise you you're doing good You're doing so well you said you know you need to get somebody who can be brutally honest with you They have your best interest at heart You know, but they can be brutally honest. They can be able to tell you by the way I know you have you have this gift you have this talent you have this skill, but you're sitting on it You know and you need somebody like that someone can challenge you Yes, so you need somebody who can really challenge you if you really want to and that's what happens even in soccer I was just using that because I know many people know soccer The work of those coaches is to physically challenge those you know the players and also Just look and see the way you're playing I think now you need to sit down or I think you need to switch positions with this other person You know they are able to just Somebody is able to look at you from a vantage point and be able to say you have this strength at this time do this If you follow you will do a coach need not have the experience Those coaches don't play Those football coaches don't play you know see them on the field You know, but they are able to look at you and bring out say your potential is here your potential is here you play this number, you know, so Mentors the difference between coaches and mentors is that coaches don't have mean not necessarily have the experience that you have But the mentors have mentors do so you can have a mentor and a coach at the same time And for the mentors that are hard to reach, you know talking of BBC and all that And maybe even in Kenya, you know How how do you get to them? How do you reach them? Yes? You can actually it's very possible But it's good to follow them just to follow them on all the platforms there as much as you can and engage But I know if there is a platform that is very easy for you to even speak with them personally is a platform called LinkedIn those of us and please if you're growing your career Or you are a student or you're a job seeker or you are not a problem Please you need to have a LinkedIn account most people ignore LinkedIn and that's it I think the most professional network What you find a lot of professionals there you find CEOs that LinkedIn you're you you get the see I mean even if you're looking for a job You go there and go to somebody's inbox explain yourself. This is what I'm doing I need internship here and the LinkedIn you will get the decision makers It's easy for you to get you know communicate to those I mean the those people that you really admire and You're able to get the kind of her opinion from them Right on Twitter on other timing on Facebook and it can be a bit hard You know, but LinkedIn is very professional first of all send them a connect request Because when you send a connect request on LinkedIn, you can be able to send them a message From there now, it's very easy to engage. So yes, you can be able to do that But I think it's always good to have somebody who you can reach somebody who you can even meet in town And yes, it's always good you get more help Okay, and still in potential what happens or what would you advise for someone who has made it to a certain level? But then self-doubt comes in you don't want to explore you are afraid rather to explore You know you can do more, but you're afraid to step out you see and now The successes we get in life. They encourage us to keep going. So if you reach somewhere and you feel down You fear for you need to speak to people. That's why mentors coming That's why mentors they come they come in or even a life coach or somebody or an accountability partner You need to be sharing with those kind of people. So they will tell you Even me maybe I've experienced this in the course of my career. This is what I did You need people to encourage you and this life you can't leave alone, you know There are those times you need to encourage yourself But the other times you actually need somebody to encourage you so always seek out for help for me if you Get into a low a certain low in your career or in life Please seek for help and know you're not the first person to go through that or whatever you're feeling or the problem That is there, you know the first person So seek help you will find help. So for me, I think that that's a thing always seek Well, no don't suffer alone whatever it is You're not the first one to go through it and you're even sometimes maybe somebody's even facing a suck You know, maybe you've been sucked and you didn't expect it And I can assure you you're not the first person to go through that but at that time it hits hard Yeah, it hits hard make speak to somebody who you can share with the problem shared is a problem Solved. Yes. So please seek out for help and then also the other thing I want to say Please don't lose hope just because you are filled once in something you are doing don't lose hope Don't lose hope. You know, that's the part of the great of the great Can we even speak about this guy of KFC Sanders At 65 is when he is making it having failed to do even just 22 You shouldn't be afraid to fail. Yeah, actually, this is what we say in your 20s. Yeah Feel all you can feel as many times as you can. Please work to succeed Work to success, but if you fail just know that's part of the process Difference is when you rise up again. Yeah, you just rise up like when you fall nine times wake up 10 times These are the time make the mistakes you can make I'm not saying you go ahead and make a mix But I'm saying don't be afraid to make mistakes. Yeah, don't be afraid Don't be afraid to make me say as we you know come to a close in this conversation. You said You are you in your passion to help people businesses and organizations change grow Exile achieve their dreams and vision it inspired you to start change to excellence coaching program Yes, so this is a program that we do online and we usually because you see we don't just want to change We want to change into something change is just a process. So you want to change to excellence So this process is supposed to bring excellence in everything that you do and now that's a personal development program That that change to excellence a program is a personal development program So it take people through the basic, you know, sometimes when you ask people what is personal development? What does it entail? The world is self-explanatory Yeah, but what really are the areas that you need to work on so we look at areas of self-awareness and Identity look at areas of you know personality profiling with your personality, you know, and we then do tests We look at personal leadership. You can't speak about Changing to excellence or even personal development without personal leadership in self leadership. We look at personal branding We look at emotional intelligence. How do you manage your feelings? And then from there we look at change and change management. How do you leverage change for growth? Then we look at public speaking and and presentation. Those are some of the course cues personal development is a lifelong process It's a lifelong process. So that one is just a program that we do for about eight weeks But it will give you the foundation for you to build. So yeah, it's it's usually and then from there We also engage a physical daunting task like Hiking so we actually hike because you know We climb a mountain because you know life has many mountains and we need to conquer You need to conquer the physical way We need to conquer physical one and it brings out so many live lessons by the way And then we do a lesson at the peak there like the other day we did Mount Kilimanbogo and You know from there We usually have a life club as well of people who are really Deliberate about working on their personal growth in their careers in their businesses in different areas that they are doing So it's really a very refreshing process everybody should go through You know, this is what we should have been taught in school in school I'm telling you to be a part of the syllabus. Yes It is part of the syllabus. Okay. Yes In case someone wants to reach you give us your hand rolls and I understand there's an event or something So we'll be doing a free event. It's online leveraging LinkedIn for career and professional growth Please if you want to really grow your career and I'm saying this is for job seekers for for professionals and for and for students if you want to really build a profile that can be able to help you leverage at least our attract Opportunities out there that you need. Please you need to leverage on LinkedIn and we'll be doing that program on 7th of September, it will be a Wednesday September 7th at 7 30 p.m So if you check my Facebook page or Twitter Sarah money the life coach and or even LinkedIn In fact, it'll be very good for you to take check my LinkedIn Sarah money I will post the details at I think visit by this evening They will be there and then we'll help you actually be able to build a profile on LinkedIn that can help you Be able to attract the opportunities that you need. So it's a free event and we invite you Okay, so also you can find me on LinkedIn as Sarah money you can find me On Instagram Sarah underscore money. You can find me on Twitter at at Sarah money You can find me on Facebook Sarah money the life coach and I have a YouTube channel Sarah money business and life coach Please like follow subscribe. Let's engage and please We want to make sure that You build a career that you don't feel happy. You don't have to feel like you're working to do it because it's fun Yeah That's how I want to that's what I want to help you do build a career that never have to feel like work You know, you're not working a day in your life. Yes, because it's fine Okay, yeah, so as we come to a close your passion is inspiring people to dream more do more and become more exactly Okay, exactly. Do you have a word that you find a word as we wrap up? So as we wrap up I want to say it's just what I have said If you want to enjoy your job Then make sure you choose a career that you love Okay, a career that you love you want to enjoy your job. Make sure you choose a career that you love Don't choose don't don't choose a career because of pressure. Oh, there's money There's this do something that you love then you never have to work a day in your life And for me, that's what I want to help you do it and thank you so much And I hope to engage with you more. Thank you for coming and giving us such amazing insights Thank you. I like to have you again and again. So carry Busan. Thank you. Appreciate. All right So that has been Sarah Mooney a life coach talking to us about tapping into unheeded potential She said make sure you make you choose the right career so that you don't have to work a day in your life Also a take home for me is everyone is a leader So make in any time you get the opportunity step up to it So we'll take a short break and then we'll be back with youth and politics and we have Ram Agoko for that. The hashtag to use is why in the morning at Y to 5 for a channel. See you on the other side