 Hi everyone, this is R.D. from Miscellaneous Debris and I'm here with Matthew from Miscellaneous Debris and welcome to the weekly bros podcast and today we are talking about the Disney streaming service and all the good things that are coming with it. So Disney is getting into the streaming business here much like Netflix and Hulu. Here is what we know so far about the Disney streaming service. It's coming in late 2019 so we have just a little bit under a year before the launch of the streaming service and like I said, it's going to be... Is that going to be when the first live shows are coming too or the first live production shows? Is that just when all the material will start streaming? Well, that's one of the quandaries that we are in here because we literally know two things about this. We know Jack and shit. So all that we know is going to feature Disney, Marvel, Star Wars and other house of mouse properties on the streaming service. I don't know if that's going to be the launch of certain shows that are going to be on there or if it's just going to be movies to start out with. So it's going to be interesting to see how they actually launch this because if you think about it, it takes a while for shows to get shot and edited. So yeah, of course. And the only one that we know that's actually in production right now is the John Favreau Mandalorian series. So I would think that they would have that show done in the books by the time that they launched this thing but they're not really giving it a lot of time. You know, so what do you mean? Well, no, I mean, so, you know, so think of it this way. Daredevil season three came out earlier in October and that show was done filming in, well, I guess that was, I guess it was still filming in the springtime. So maybe they do have a short turnaround time, but with some of the stuff that they're doing and some of the stuff that they're proposing, you would think that they would need a little more time for post production, especially with the Star Wars. The shows that have been announced for the streaming service are the Mandalorian, the Scarlet Witch series, the Loki series, the, thank the good gods in Asgard, the Bucky and Falcon series. That's going to be great. And just announced the Rogue One prequel featuring Diego Luna's Cassian Andor. I mean, they've got good content coming up. They've announced some good stuff. So let's hope that they, you know what they sure do. And I got to say the Rogue One news came out about a week ago. When did I text you that? A couple days ago. And I got to say I'm a bigger Star Wars fan than I am Marvel. Although I do the Marvel movies. The Mandalorian I was really, really looking forward to out of all these shows. But now that the Rogue One is coming out, I want to see that even more because I really, really, really, really, really, really, really liked Rogue One. And I really liked Cassian Andor's character. I really thought it was a lot to explore there, especially the stuff with the rebels and spying all that shit. So I'm really looking forward to that. And then the Bucky Falcon one. So Diego Luna is reprising his role as Cassian Andor. The rest of the crew that he was with in Rogue One died. Well, I mean, they all died. So this all has to happen before the movie, obviously. Right? So I mean, I'm assuming you could probably see characters from the Rebel Alliance. So you would think it would have to take place between Revenge of the Sith and Rogue One, right? Well, I mean, naturally, I think that's the progression of things. Yes. It might even be like before Revenge of the Sith. You just, you don't know where they're going to go with this. I mean, you would think he's going to be an adult. You know, so the natural thinking is before Rogue One, after Revenge of the Sith, but we just don't know. Do you think it could feature people like Solo, Chewie, Lando, Darth Maul, Palpatine, Vader, any of the big characters? I mean, I would assume like some of those people could be mentioned, you know, kind of like the Nick Fury's of, you know, Angels of S.H.I.E.L.D., right? They just kind of pop in for an episode, like once every three years. You know, I would think like, you know, characters like Darth Vader and Han Solo and Chewbacca, probably not, you know, but you just don't know. I mean, I would rather see something happened to do with, you know, Boba Fett, you know, in some more of the Bowing Hunters. But I would assume that's going to be touched on the Mandalorian. I don't know what timeframe that's going on either, but back to Rogue One, I just, or the Rogue One prequel, I just don't think the major characters will be mentioned. I just think it'll be minor characters might have a more recurring role. You know, I think that they'll be known. People are going to know who Darth Vader is, but are they going to really know who Han Solo is? I don't know. I mean, because obviously they left the ending of Solo open for a sequel if they wanted to do one. Right. And I think that's a perfect opportunity for like Darth Maul. Exactly. I think that Amelia Clark, you know, coming off of Game of Thrones, you know, if she wants to jump into another high profile series, I think that would be a great launching point for this series. So, you know, to do a Darth Maul, Amelia Clark's character and kind of incorporate, you know, the Rebel Alliance, those two. I think that would be a really, really good way to go. Could be. Yeah. I can dig it. Life's a garden. I dig it. Now, speaking of the Mandalorian, Jon Favreau's live action Star Wars called The Mandalorian. So that's the, so the Mandalorian is the only show that's going to be on the streaming service that is currently in production. Of course. You know, I want to know all the details. I want them all. Give me all the details. The only details that we know so far is what Kevin Feige has said. And he did a report or he did a interview with the Hollywood Reporter. And he says, we are going to tell stories for the streaming service that we wouldn't be able to tell in a theatrical experience, a longer form narrative, which is what comics really are. It's about as long form as a narrative as exists, but also maintain that theatrical experience, which is our bread and butter and the lines around the block. If you are lucky. And what he's referring to is that all of these shows, whether it be the Mandalorian, whether it be the Scarlet Witch, the Loki, the Rogue One one, all of these shows are going to have the budget of a Game of Thrones or a show, you know, on a premium channel or a cable channel like that. Yeah. It's going to be like, you know, in the same vein as Game of Thrones or Westworld or Lost or something like that. Obviously Lost was a serial show. I had, you know, 22 episodes in some seasons. These aren't going to be that long. They're going to be more of the Game of Thrones, Westworlds, you know, eight, you know, Daredevil, that sort of thing. It's not the first time that Marvel or Disney have taken to the small screen. So, you know, Marvel's been a mainstay on television ever since Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. back in 2013. And then, you know, Netflix has, you know, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Punisher, The Defenders to a certain extent. Not all the seasons have done well. In fact, just last month, Iron Fist and Luke Cage were both canceled after their second seasons. I am not upset about Luke Cage or Iron Fist. I didn't like, I only got through half of Iron Fist. I was like, this is stupid. And same thing with Luke Cage. I just didn't like it. No, I just, I just didn't like it. I don't know why. I liked Luke Cage. I liked the second seasons of both shows much better than I liked the first seasons. I thought Luke Cage was good. The villains in the second season were so much better. Like Bushmaster in Luke Cage season two, phenomenal villain. Same thing with Davos in Iron Fist season two. It just, you know, I enjoyed the villains to have more depth of character to them. Like a lot of things. Maybe I'll watch it again, give it a second try. I don't know. But what I'm really looking forward to with the streaming service is that I think that's where Agents of Shield is going to end up. And I, you know, as much as people crap on that show, I still think that it is the best Marvel television has to offer. How many seasons are there right now? There's been, there's been five seasons. They're, they're going to start production on season. They may have already started production on season six. But season six isn't going to come out until after Avengers four. A different thing. I was just trying to say that I'm five seasons behind Agents of Shield right now. Oh, Jesus. No, but it makes complete sense. Like, I think a lot of things that they want to do want, they want to happen after Avengers four because they want to try to tie it back into the main narrative of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Well, yeah, well, that's the, that was the point I was trying to make is that, you know, Agents of Shield is connected to the MCU, but the way that they connect each season to the movie that's being released at that present time is kind of like, you really found that in, didn't you? Like with, for example, when the a few seasons ago when Civil War was coming out, they mentioned the Sokovia Accords in one scene in one episode in a bar. And that was the tie in. Yeah, but I think it's like a lot of things like they're trying to have their own thing and they don't want to be tied into as much as they don't have to be, you know, other properties, you know, follow the basic guideline. That's it. So a story like that is all you really need to know that they're still, you know, relevant in the same place. I don't know. I think having something it's too tight in, it kind of loses its appeal. I don't disagree with you. Well, you should for the sake of the podcast with with a show like Agents of Shield, or with any of these shows, is that, you know, the characters are coming from this universe. So the more you can tie back into its original incarnation, the more fans are going to gravitate towards a show. So it would behoove them to meld them a little bit more. So I'm saying. No, I don't think so at all. If you have something like Agents of Shield, it's its own baby, man. You don't want to be mixing that with other babies. It's its own thing. You want to nurture your own baby. You don't want to nurture someone else's baby. Fair enough. Fair enough. It's in the same universe, right? You can mention it here and there. But I think when you try to integrate it too much, I think it's going to lose its appeal. The Mandalorian. So it's going to be executive produced by John Favreau, the John Favreau, who is the director of Iron Man 1 and 2. He plays Happy Ho again in the rest of the films. It's going to take place between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens. Some awesome, some big names are in line to direct the episodes. Huge names. Taika Watiki. That's probably the biggest one. Well, it's the biggest because of Thor, but... Bryce Dallas Howard, who is, for those of you who don't know who she is, she is Claire from the Jurassic World series. She's also the daughter of Ron Howard, so not exactly a lightweight when it comes to directing. Rick Famois, who directed the movie Dope, which was critically acclaimed. And also Deborah Cho, who's directed a few episodes of Mr. Robot, which is also critically acclaimed. If it's taken place between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens, I know I spoke to you before we started talking, that a lot of expanded Star Wars universe can be fit into this show if they want it to. They're not bound by anything that they have to do on this show. And it's a completely original idea from John Favreau. But the aftermath series that was written to kind of bridge the gap between The Force Awakens and Return of the Jedi, those books were really good. One of the big villains in that movie was Galleous Rex. The book, not the movie. Oh yeah, the books, I'm sorry. Was Galleous Rex. That's okay. And before The Last Jedi came out, I actually thought that Galleous Rex was Snoke. And I was absolutely convinced of it. Turns out, not so much. Really? But all those characters from that series would make perfect counterparts. I know. The Mandalorians, it's a race of people on a planet. Yeah, I'm listening. Where did the clones come from? Oh, the clones are just clones of Jango Fett. Yeah, I know. Who is a Mandalorian? So he is a Mandalorian, but they're just clones of... Yeah, the clones are all clones of Jango Fett. Yeah, that I knew. I thought the Mandalorian had some tie-in to them. He is Mandalorian. Correct. Yeah, so the predominantly... That's a big word. I can't pronounce that word. There's a human cultural group who originated on the planet Mandalore. So Mandalorians are from Mandalore. I just wanted to check this before I said it wrong. Sounded like a dumbass. Yeah, so they're from a planet called Mandalore. And after the rise of the Galactic Empire, the Mandalore system came under the rule of the Empire with Gar Saxon as their Viceroy. Well, while other Mandalorian worlds such as Concord Dawn were free from Imperial rule until Clan Saxon was defeated by the Mandalorian clans loyal to Bo-Katan craze, who later took up the title of Mandalore soon after. Whew, there's a hole. There's a mouthful for you. I wasn't expecting to have to recite stuff off of fucking Wikipedia right now. Actually, this is wookiepedia. So what we can infer from that is that if he's going to be, if it's called the Mandalorian, you would think that he'd be a bounty hunter, correct? I would assume it's got something to do with bounty. I mean, I don't want to say anything for sure, but I would hope it has something to do with bounty hunters, yes. And, you know, technically, Bubba Fett's still alive. He did fly out of the Starwars' mouth, right? He did? Oh, Matt. Unless I'm, like, had a really bad dream, his first appearance was in the Star Wars Holiday Special. Let's just go into the Marvel Limited series here. Serieses? Series? Marvel Limited series. So let's start with Loki. Tom Hiddleston will repise his role as Loki for the series. Yeah. That's awesome. No timeline has been given for when this series will take place. My hope is that it will jump back from his fall from Asgard in Thor or begin in hell after his death in Infinity War. So, you know, there's a lot of... It's... Loki is a great character and Tom Hiddleston is a fantastic actor. I can't picture anybody else playing that character except for Tom Hiddleston. It's kind of like with Hugh Jackman of Wolverine. I mean, when they cast a new Wolverine, it's going to be kind of like... It is, isn't it? But I think that no matter what timeline it falls into, and no matter what story they put it into, they're going to knock it out of the park. I don't think that Tom Hiddleston would come back for this role if it was going to be a shit story, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I have a same feeling. Like, I don't think he'd be doing this if it was just, you know, for a paycheck. Also, speaking of reprising their roles, the Scarlet Witch Limited series, Elizabeth Olsen is going to be reprising her role. Doesn't that seem like a strange choice? You know, it did, and then I thought about it a little bit more. So, bear with me here. Paul Bettany is going to reprise his role as Vision in the show as well. So, it's going to focus most likely on the relationship as a couple. But with the new Fox Steel that's coming, her role as a mutant could open up some doors for some future crossover appearances from the Fox characters that they're going to be getting. So, they'll be able to use Quicksilver again. I mean, they can use them now. But they might be able to invoke the whole Magneto being her father. They could invoke, you know, the characters from The Gifted on that Fox series. Because Polaris, who's the main character on that show, is Magneto's daughter as well. So, you know, you could merge those two characters. You could merge those two shows for that matter. But I think it's going to focus more on mutant kind, as opposed to the Avengers and that sort of thing. So, I think that there's going to be some really interesting crossover that can happen. To me, it seems like a strange choice of all the characters there. I just don't... There has to be some kind of tie-in linker right with the mutants. Her creation was by the Mind Stone. She's not a mutant. Well, here's the thing. Is that they're kind of retkinning that. So, in the... There was a book that came out. I don't know if it was like the Encyclopedia of the MCU, or like the Definitive Tales of the MCU. Something along those lines. But when they were describing Scarlet Witch, they said that the Mind Stone unlocked a dormant power that was inherently in her. In plying that much like how Deadpool changed. He already had the mutant gene in it or in her that has had to activate it. You know what I mean? Right. They're on the right track. And Scarlet Witch is one of the most powerful mutants in all of comics. So, it doesn't surprise me as a comic book fan that they're taking this approach with her. If I stay and look at it from the outside, like I really don't like her character until Infinity War. I feel like to me she was just kind of boring. Even I knew she was very powerful. And to me, just looking at it, trying to be objective. I just don't feel like that's a good pick for a standalone series. And I just don't feel like it's her acting as a character to me is very bad. I don't know. I mean, maybe I'm wrong. And hopefully, hey, hopefully she can prove us wrong. You know, it'll be great. I have reservations about that one. But the only way, if they want to try to make it really good, and they should try to tie it into characters they just bought from the Fox deal, right? So, you're right. They have to try to make those connections somehow. Speaking of connections, we finally, finally got our wish. Because Bucky and Falcon are getting their own series. They're going on a road trip. Fucking Letha weapon. 48 hours. Beverly Hills cop. Oh my God. It's going to be absolutely fantastic. So Sebastian Stan and Automobiles and Anthony Mackie are going to be reprising their roles as a Winter Soldier and Falcon. I mean, are you surprised they're doing this? To me, they seem like they've been around in the MCU for so long now. Like their characters are too big. Like their personalities are too big. The actors themselves, you know, don't they feel like they're too big to be doing TV? Outside of the MCU? No. Within the MCU? Yes. But I say that knowing full well that I've been clamoring for this. So I really don't care. But the thing is, I don't want Marvel and Disney to pressure to what fans want. I know it's... That's kind of what they're supposed to do though. I know, but if they don't pull it off and it's just going to look stupid, it's going to be like solo. And I like solo, by the way. I really thought that was a good movie. But were people really clamoring for a Han Solo prequel? No, but they knew they would take the most popular character and made a movie out of them. And I think if they take one of the most popular things people want to see out of these movies and just do it, like I don't want it to come back in there. You know, I want it to be good. So they have to do it right. If they can make it somehow like, God, it'd really be funny to have like a Ragnarok type feel to it, right? Oh yeah. Jokes. I don't know. It's going to be along the lines of Lethal Weapon 48 hours. You know, it's going to be, you know, Nick Nolte for the Winter Soldier being the straight man and Anthony Mackey being Eddie Murphy. Right. For the comic relief. You know, it's going to be an interesting juxtaposition with those. But which is what makes those characters so great together. Right. I think that Marvel stumbled upon that very organically. Just sort of realized that, you know, we have something here. We need to capitalize on this, but they can't give them their own feature films. You know what I mean? So they'll be able to tell that, like Kevin Feige said, they're going to be able to tell that long form narrative for these two characters and actually give those guys the time to shine or sink. You know, you might be right. Maybe it does suck. We don't know. Well, anyway, some final thoughts here on the whole streaming service here. Final thoughts. Iron Fist and Luke Cage, they were canceled on Netflix. They could end up on the service. The other Netflix shows will stay on Netflix. Jessica Jones, Daredevil, The Punisher. Daredevil, yeah. Aidenstashield could and fucking should move over to the streaming service. I've already said my piece about Aidenstashield, but there's so many possibilities, especially with the new Fox deal coming up. You know, you could do Young Avengers. You could do more cosmic shows like Novakor. You could do more street level heroes like Moon Knight, who is basically Batman, but with multiple personalities. You can introduce more villains that would, you know, most likely not be featured in the MCU, like Mr. Sinister, Omega Red, Sabertooth, Hellfire Club, Emma Frost. You know, there's so many possibilities that, you know, it's I'm sort of salivating, just thinking about all the things that they could put on the service. What about some of the other Fox properties that has bought like superheroes, you know, like Alien? Or they could most certainly do that. You know, I'm not even sure what kind of, what other titles that, you know, they've bought. But how cool would that be? Like an Alien TV show? I mean, if you, if you could make it, well, that's the thing though, is that if you, when you make, so with the Alien movies, you have the Alien. That's your, that's your villain. But you can't do an entire series with every single show fighting an Alien at the same time. So like you would have to incorporate more lore into it. Yes. You'd have to figure some way to flesh it out. So if this did work, you could pull it off for like five or six seasons, you know. But anyways, back to Bubba Fett for really quick. So Bubba Fett is also extensively featured in many works of the formally canon legends continuity in which he is known to be shown surviving a supposed death from Return of the Jedi, among other feats and adventures. So I knew I read that someplace. I thought for some reason, I thought it was like on a special edition or some shit like that. But I knew I read it somewhere. I knew I wasn't crazy. And don't forget that you can reach us on the Twitter at the weekly bros. 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