 what's up everyone welcome in to the fan dual Sunday night recap presented by fan dual I'm your host Simon joined as always by my very handsome and wearing their totally normal outfits co-host Joey and John Luke Garofalo what's up boys. What up. Kenneth Walker just rushed in a touchdown excited. Let's go. That was my exciting coming through Salvish's day. We are here to break down the week eight main slate of games all the games that took place on this Sunday but like Joe just mentioned there's some games wrapping up right now so we might be live reacting to some of that stuff. I finally got my office set up where I can I can watch them good while we're streaming it's been like just peeking at my phone but now we got that big screen it's juicy brought the big screen in a little bit distracted well not like not like the 65-inch or my big screen I just mean not the two inch phone I mean like the like the 32 inch television sitting on my desk. I got maybe big screen was a misnomer right there. I shouldn't have called it the big screen but in comparison guys we got some people in the chat ready for today's show. Albert in here what's up Albert. Welcome and glad to have you here and guys I figured out before we got into this there were a couple reminders I wanted to run through number one first and foremost make sure you compliment Jail on his mummy costume it took him a lot of time and if you don't compliment him hey I'm not a mummy I'm a toilet paper you're not a mummy oh I mean make sure you compliment Jail on his toilet paper roll costume he worked really hard on it and if he's going to cry why does everyone keep saying it's a mummy what means don't wear toilet paper a toilet paper mummy wears toilet paper it's true that is true um guys but after you compliment Jail on his toilet paper roll costume make sure you head on over here where you're watching it on YouTube Facebook or Twitch wherever you're watching and hit that like button if you're on YouTube or on Facebook and make sure you're following if you're on Twitch and then subscribe to FanDuel on YouTube check them out across all their other socials as well we're talking TikTok Instagram Twitter they're at FanDuel everywhere and they have a whole team of killer content creators helping you guys win some money and win your leagues we got Dame in the chat what's up Dame welcome and glad to have you here and Maria said SMH Jail just just SMH I'm assuming that's what you say in your toilet paper roll yeah I think so oh Mr. Scampers knows what you are you're dressed up as the principal's house got him that's pretty funny Mr. Scampers we don't get my house toilet paper rolled here but there's one side of my house that uh looks like it's had some tie-dye paint applied to it people like throwing eggs at my house we're on the corner of a busy road we get eggs have you guys ever egged a house I've never egged a house in my life have you egged a house oh I've egged so many houses oh boy you were a house egger in your young days oh yeah oh yeah well as long as they deserve it Jail I'm pretty sure it's illegal if uh if they deserve it all right what did they do as long as they were dicks you're a lot of their eggs at the house I'm pretty sure that's the law that is the law um Albert wants to know how many of y'all started formant today I started them in one league and boy did it feel good Joey did you get any formant in your lineups I'm in I think 27 leagues and I started been like three nice that's pretty good though yeah that's too many leagues too many leagues and Maria wants to know did we already established what Joey is Joey what's your costume what was that now the costume the costume I'm just I'm going to bed when I'm done with the episode tonight and I just didn't know I just put on your jammies I just wanted to roll into bed when I'm done I see I see I check sound you by the way it's it's one that's all that's all you clothing yeah is there a butt flap or do you have to take the whole thing off to you no I just yeah I've taken it all off there's a fully disrope no but it zips all the way down to the you know sorry down a little far way down okay sorry about that guys at least the cameras above the desk cannot blow the desk honestly though we probably would have had problems with that already if you were streaming at the camera from below the desk the ones he would not have been the thing that may hit a problem why is this guy filming that guys we've got some games to talk about today I'm gonna go ahead and pull up this first one 4 p.m game to already finished we've got the Tennessee Titans taking down the Houston Texans 17 to 10 and Derek Henry man what a beast he was this week yeah it was this was the Derek Henry shows basically what this game was coming into it everyone was talking about Malik Willis making his NFL debut but it was all about Derek Henry second multiple touchdown game of his of the season and has at least one in five of seven games this season and over a hundred yards for the fourth time in a row not a whole lot from either QB in this game you can see Malik Willis 55 yards and an interception rushed for 12 so really disappointing day from him Davis Mills 152 yards and not much on the ground either at yards rushing interesting fact about this game wait no that's the other game I was thinking up no interesting fact about this game at all there's nothing interesting about this game even no one thing Damien Pierce kind of salvaged his day he was having a really rough day everybody knows I love Damien Pierce if you watch any of the shows and you got a touchdown there at the end so whoo so saved his day over 10 fantasy points so happy to see that from him it's about it man I was like we Derek Henry felt like this felt like one of those weeks where you were silly not to put him as your number one overall running back it was a positive matchup Malik Willis was making his first start it's a quarterback that maybe they already don't trust his throwing ability who is known for his rushing ability and he's a rookie quarterback in his first start like it just seemed like they were going to feed Derek Henry and it's always nice when a script like that works out right like when it says it's a smash play and then it is a smash play 219 yards is absolutely absurd Joey did something just happen that we missed oh I think we might have a Cooper cup looks like a bad injury on the Seattle side it's Cooper looks like a maybe another uh oh Cooper cup I'm watching the Rams game yeah it looks like Cooper cups injured and CBS Sports tweeted out no please not Cooper cup so I'll give you more information on this so but uh oh yeah guys we'll keep you updated on that front um outside of Derek Henry Joey anything else from this game of note or are we just brushing past these Titans in Texas it was a pretty boring game for fantasy outside of Mr Henry it really was Brandon cooks four receptions 73 yards you know that he's on the a lot of teams are talking about you know is he going to be traded and whatnot I guess we'll see this is the kind of performance you see 73 yards on four receptions you kind of like to see that so um maybe they showcase him a little bit but not a whole lot to talk about this game I mean Derek Henry is good at football we know this it's been established absolutely guys speaking of that Cooper cup injury we're going to pull up this San Francisco 49ers Los Angeles Rams game the 49ers are pulling away looks like they're going to have this one in the bag they're up 31 to 14 right now um on the 49ers side of the ball though we got to start with Mr Christian McCaffrey they eased him into the offense last week and then this week he doesn't just run a touchdown in he doesn't just cast a touchdown he also throws a touchdown he has a passing rushing and receiving touchdown in this game and add almost 100 yards on the ground 18 carries for 94 yards just CMC stuff right this this is just a CMC game it's the first player to do it since I heard 2006 or the the alien Tomlinson did it in 2006 um only 10 times enough for a good company to be in yep if you're the first player to do something since ladenian Tomlinson you're probably a pretty good NFL player Joey yes is Christian McCaffrey the number one ppr running back rest of season man he has looked really good in San Francisco's offense um I still might want Austin Eckler but you know what man that's really tough I'll take I'll take it I'll take it you'll take a jam rest of season let's go yeah he was my number one running back this season and he's on a better offense now so yeah that should be my answer so I think he is I think he's my top running back rest of season he just looked we know what kind of player CMC is and now we're seeing him utilized in this offense and Dale we were talking after that uh there was a the pass from Christian McCaffrey the passing touchdown and we were sitting there and it was like I feel like Shanahan this is just like freaking Christmas for him he's out there he is so excited to have a player like CMC in the backfield that he can like play with know what I mean he can draw up these crazy plays and he's got a Christian McCaffrey to plug into them it's been fun watching what Shanahan's doing and I'm excited to see what else comes out of that Brandon Ayuk having himself a pretty good game as well six targets turning it into six receptions for 81 yards and a touchdown as well instead of Devo Samuel Brandon Ayuk has been a a stalwart on my fans and teams over the past couple weeks I was sitting there waiting for it waiting for him to show up but it looks like he's arrived Jail what are you shaking your head at? Heineke to Logan Thomas for a last second there's 22 seconds left on the clock they just scored Washington and a lot of goals. God Logan Thomas you know why he scored it's because I finally took him out of the lineup that I've just been sitting there waiting on him to score and I took him out picked up Bob trees because someone dropped him and threw Mr Bobby trees in there or not Bob trees Bob Tungian and now uh we'll see we'll see what happens tonight also Damon here saying CMC on San Francisco is not fair yeah it's a little bit not fair I've got the Rams feel that way as well right now on the Rams side of the ball the main thing I wanted to talk about Matthew Berry tweeted out earlier this week I just have a weird feeling that Ronnie Rivers is going to get the starting role this weekend in this offense for the running backs for the Los Angeles Rams I was like who and then here we go Ronnie Rivers with the most carries eight carries only 21 yards on the ground though they're not able to get anything going on the ground against the San Francisco 49ers team Joey do you believe in like is Ronnie Rivers a waiver wire target for you because he did get the most carries even though he didn't do much with it I kind of want to see what happens with camp makers because they've said if camp makers doesn't get traded he's coming back into this offense so I think Ronnie Rivers could possibly be a waiver wire target but if camp makers comes back to this offense I think he's pretty relevant oh look and the commanders did what the Panthers could and it made the extra point with less and did and also it was it was Taylor Heineke ran it in it was not a thorough two Logan Thomas I don't know what I saw was that they must have been shown another replay but it was Taylor Heineke rushed it in for six it happened to me again today where I accidentally clicked on something and it took me back to the beginning of the red zone stream and all of a sudden I'm like wait that happened again like like Jalen Waddle scored another touchdown he did but I was watching the first one again so you got to see his waddle dance twice yeah and they were not nice to him about his waddle dance today they were they were a little harsh on the announce on the on the broadcast did you they were they said not his best waddle they they said it wasn't his best waddle in the end taking his form huh right he scored I guess if you score enough touchdowns that they critique the form of your touchdown dance you're probably doing all right fantasy yeah we got Jay in the chat said hey guys I'm not going to make it tonight oh thanks for letting us know you were coming I really appreciate it and um Albert in here saying hi to Jay over there and we got dame saying Ram's run game is yeah that's a no I would describe it as um that's all I got for this game guys unless you wanted to add anything else no I let's move on keep an eye on Cooper cup that's that's kind of scary hey look at it look at Adam Robinson five receptions 54 yards let's go buddy let's go buddy looking all right let's go buddy that's pretty good the next game the commander's colts game jail just mentioned the commanders took the lead with less than 20 seconds left they're up 1716 um in this one looks like they're going to pull out the W they did they did pull out the W here Taylor Heineke pretty good game 23 uh 0.06 fantasy points this game through 23孫s and 31 attempts 279 yards it's a pretty good day for Taylor Heineke Antonio Gibson did well Terry Maclaurin did well Ter Samuel did well pretty much you're happy as long as you didn't start Brian Robinson this week who only got two points two points two fantasy points eight carries 20 yards no touchdowns Joey what was the deal with Brian Robinson today you know there at the end when I saw Heineke run that touchdown in like that's where you kind of hope you're going to see Brian Robinson and if he's not getting those carries I start to worry I mean I was very high on Brian Robinson coming into the season and then we all know what happened with him and he looks good coming out from the injury do we want to call an injury from the incident but yeah last couple weeks he's not looked too incredible this gives me a little bit of pause especially with Antonio Gibson getting seven carries and seven receptions yeah yeah Antonio Gibson uh split carries here seven carries 19 yards I think it just came in the receiving game for Antonio Gibson though yeah what about you Simon how you feel about this Washington backfield no I mean it's gross if this is how it's going to play out then I want no part in it I mean Curtis Samuel was just as involved in these guys almost right like four carries whenever we're talking four to eight sure eight is double but that's not a workload for any player if that's just the work they're getting you don't want to start any back who's going to get eight carries right right if they're not involved in the receiving game so keep an eye on it if I have to start someone from this offense I'm probably still starting Brian Robinson if I have to start him back here but man it's not looking good it's not looking good if this is how they want to run it from a fantasy perspective yeah yeah at least they're working some of these guys into the receiving game Antonio Gibson had a seven target seven receptions 58 yards and a touchdown which is that's a lot that is a lot for running back on the cold side of this we got Sam Ehrlinger Ehrlinger Ehrblinger Sam Ehrblinger 8.54 fantasy points Ehrlinger that's from Schitt's Creek that is my as soon as you started doing I was like that is my favorite moment of any Schitt's Creek episode ever is when she's filming the fruit wine commercial Erb Scherzlinger Erb Scherblinger damn it Jail now every time I hear Sam Ehrlinger I'm gonna hear Moira trying to say Erb Ehrlinger fruit wine you're welcome not his uh not his best outing but it really it wasn't too bad it wasn't too bad from a fantasy perspective not great only short just shy of nine fantasy points this week 17 completions 23 attempts 201 yards of not a bad day not a bad day for Sam could have thrown more touchdowns but that's all right through one to Naheem Heinz Naheem Heinz had a pretty good game 2012.9 fantasy points this week Jonathan Taylor 6.6 fantasy points 16 carries 76 yards no touchdowns Simon is Naheem Heinz the new running back one in Indianapolis I'm sorry I started Naheem Heinz today I just got to give him a little hype just got to give him a little juice you know um sorry one second let me contain myself no it's Jonathan freaking Taylor Jonathan Taylor's still the man you was still banged up and even no and even during this game they took him off the field had to retake his ankle he was questionable to return but ended up coming back on it's obvious he's not quite at 100% but even not being at 100% he's still averaged almost five yards to carry out there um you're not concerned you just keep chugging along with Jonathan Taylor it's disappointing but he was still banged up a little bit I mean there's a chance Naheem Heinz could be the the running back one in this offense I mean tomorrow's Halloween so he could dress up as that like that's the only way I see this happening good on the receiving side receiving side of the colds Paris Campbell who was mr mr targets of the last two weeks reduced to two targets two receptions 43 yards he broke off a big one boys Harris Campbell breaking off big ones Michael Payton still the guy there though yeah yeah it's all I got Michael Payton yeah Michael Payton the dude there for sure yeah I did want to you said this wasn't Sam Allinger it's best outing but it was it was it was only yeah it's it's his only outing so far I just wanted to make sure we were good it's also his worst outing ever though as well that's true we have the WAP genius coming here go bills oh I hope so I'm a huge Josh Allen game tonight or I'm getting sent home in my guillotine league I'm just sitting here praying Josh Allen drops like 40 on the Packers tonight and Maria in here saying um and you'll remember the name herb earthling girl bird hern guys herb herblinger bing live hanger live in Burt herkern mr scavers and you say NFC east has four winning records in the NFC NFC south has none winning records none winning records in the NFC south the falcons sit in the top of that division now right yeah after their exciting win over the Panthers today like the fuck right like I don't know Joey I don't know I keep saying that and I keep thinking that's going to be the case but then it's not guys we're going to move on to our last game is still going on right now the New York Giants in the Seattle Seahawks the Geno Smith led Seahawks currently winning 27 13 and they are at the two minute warning in the fourth quarter right now looks like the Seahawks are going to take this one home unless something crazy happens yeah looks like they got this pretty well in hand something interesting Seattle held the member I was saying there's something interesting this is the game there's something interesting Seattle held New York to 56 total yards of offense in the first half DK Metcalf was questionable coming into the game but at the time yet he was leading the Seahawks in targets yeah and so he's and still leading in receptions as well he's got a touchdown so DK Metcalf he was coming in questionable but he looks health completely healthy Tyler also great game there and even though the Giants were held to 56 total yards take one Barclay did have a touchdown for his third game in four games so that's nice to see and then Damian Pierce salvages day wait that was in the last game so you just want to migrate it over so more I do you're like and Damian Pierce scored a touchdown in case anybody forgot no DK Metcalf out like I was wrong I was nervous to start DK Metcalf this week coming off the injury but dude looks totally healthy he looks like like a stud out there that uh that's how it's done past when he caught that he just looked like a man when he caught that like he caught it he was like here like a man I'm present and I'm in the end zone it's just the vibes he was screaming off Jerry Slayton still getting a little bit of receiving work too uh I put a prop bed and I'm in a hit in the first half so that and it was the only thing that really hit for the Giants uh Wendell Robinson only three targets that's called disappointing I didn't know we were really high on him so that's not what we want to see out of Wendell Robinson I believe I said and I quote this feels like a Wendell Robinson day you know what there's still a minute and 12 seconds to go in this game it was narrator it was not a Wendell Robinson day you know why it went bad it's because I broke my rule and I said they have to throw the ball to somebody like we were talking him we're talking him vs George Piggins and as soon as I said it I was like no don't say it now we're going to see Jerry Slayton as the head target on this team Tanner Hudson's going to get more targets than him and it's not pretty regular Geno type game 212 passing two touchdowns uh no interceptions which we love to see and then 26 yard rushing just give me an extra 2.6 fantasy points on the line there thank you Geno um but yeah it's about it from this game Seyquan still you know gets touchdown so salvages his day it's about it from this game do you think this is I mean the New York Giants were playing hot right they were sitting at six and one going into this one probably going to drop to six and two is this more what you were expecting from the New York Giants what you're expecting rest of season or do you think we see them continue to pull out wins like we did through the first seven weeks like they were pulling out some pretty good wins in those games or are we going to see them start start dropping start declining over the back half of this year well I think the Seahawks are decent right the Seahawks are playing pretty decently so I think that yeah but we know we knew that this Giants offense was not completely impenetrable like we knew that this was not like the same as the bills right the bills is when you watch that team they look complete Giants don't look complete and that's and that's not to speak poorly about the Giants Giants have their record they deserve their record they deserve to win they have those wins but eventually regression is going to hit I think Giants are seeing that now I think we're going to see that more throughout the season but they're playing decently and I think their their leadership is right which is the important part this is a in my mind this is like a wild card team playing or with the record of a buy seed team like like they are not the team that's going to get that buy in the playoffs but they are a team that's good enough to make the playoffs to sneak in in the wild card maybe maybe win a game you know what I mean like they've got the pieces to pull a win out in the wild card around but jail I think you nailed it it's not that they're a bad team just maybe they've been overperforming and that usually corrects itself over the course of a 17 game season we'll see you though we shall see and it's been fun watching um it's been fun watching them get to the point where they're at so far but before we talk about Sunday night football guys I wanted to mention the injuries that happened today that might affect your fantasy lineups there are only a couple today that were uh that were relevant and fingers crossed the Cooper Cup injury isn't anything bad Jonathan Taylor did re aggravate his ankle it looked like but he did return to the game as we mentioned and then Tyler Hagueby also exited the game with what looked like a neck injury but he was able to return to the game as well we're waiting for further news on Cooper Cup um we'll keep you guys updated on that as we get more information boys we got a Sunday night football game tonight the Packers at the Bills and if you would have told me at the beginning of this season and the Bills were 10 and a half point favorites over the Aaron Rodgers led Packers I would have called you a liar and now tonight I'm thinking it's not enough I'm thinking the Bills are going to absolutely destroy the Packers tonight like I think this game is going to get gross I like the Bills to cover this jail what are you thinking about this game just how's it going to end are the Packers is this their bounce back week or do the Bills embarrass them on Sunday night I don't think the Packers are good enough to to compete here but I I hate saying that I hate saying that when Vegas is already calling that because it feels like like a trap I'm copping out it feels like a trap so I think this is going to be close one I'm switching my reasoning completely I think that I think what are you doing keeping up with the Bills I I think if this game was in Green Bay they could cover the spread but it's not in Green Bay so I don't think they're going to cover the spread I mean this Bills defense is clicking on in every aspect of the game I sweat them away I expect them to win big and I saw Von Miller with the exercise bands warming up on the sideline Aaron Rogers better watch out because those thighs are ready to crush him he's gonna Von Miller could crush my head like a watermelon between his legs I think like could just squeeze it and absolutely crush it the that exercise band I don't know where he got one that could withstand his legs but I don't think I could move my legs two inches with the band that he had on that's probably scary for Aaron Rogers to turn on the CV and just see Von Miller just like all he's warming up for is to get you like he's warming up he's like I'm yeah it's the only job I'm gonna get you right exactly you're watching a guy get all warm and get pumped up and you know his one job is to just hurt you like take you to the ground knock the ball out of your hand like ruin your night is his only job I think questions Seahawks win it's official official down go the Giants six and two now I had some fantasy questions from this game that I wanted to ask you guys about a player on each team that I'm uh unsure about what to do with him Romeo Dobbs is the player on the Green Bay Packers that I wanted to ask about it's been really difficult figuring out who the primary passcatcher there was going to be but Alan Lazard stepped up in recent weeks looking like v1 but he's not playing this week so we're back to Dobbs Dobbs passed three weeks though he's had 5.9 6.1 and 0.0 ppr fantasy points over the last three weeks and that zero came on four targets it wasn't like he wasn't targeted he just dropped a goose egg for us in weeks three and four though he looked pretty good he put up a game above 20 fantasy points in another one above 13 Joey what are we doing with Romeo Dobbs can you trust him in a starting lineup oh absolutely not this week I do not like him it's about full of bills I understand that targets are available but we thought of that for Wando Robinson and look at that not to throw that in your face but um yeah I don't like Romeo Dobbs at all this week uh yeah the bill's defense like I've said it before it scares me I don't know if yours had a shit had a shit day besides the touchdown but what do you think about Romeo Dobbs he did um I was just trying to hurt Joey's feelings since he hurt my feelings on Wando Robinson but he got the touchdown and Wando didn't it is a tough matchup Joey's correct it's a really tough matchup for Romeo Dobbs he's still he's getting he's playing around 90 85 to 90 of the snaps which is what you want to see it's got a 17 target share on that's on the steam so I'm fine loading him up that's a high end of target share that he's getting used in this offense this is going to be what I think is going to be I think it's going to be a high scoring game which is going to be good for all of the past catching options in Green Bay also Maria in here saying I do not like green eggs in ham I do not like them Romeo Dobbs yeah Joey whenever you're going through it I 100% heard some green eggs in ham in there as well getting ready for Thursday night on the other side of the ball um Devin Singletary seems like a smash play this week they're 10 and a half point favorites the Packers have not been good against opposing fantasy running backs giving up the eighth most points to that position on a weekly basis through seven weeks so far and he saw 17 carries last week against the Kansas City Chiefs fail set me straight if I'm wrong here but Devin Singletary seems like a smash start almost like a must play are you viewing him in the same way yep start him up start him up Joey is top 12 in his range of outcomes tonight I don't know about top 12 but I mean I like Devin Singletary I hope that the bills don't go in trade for somebody like we're hearing I mean Devin Singletary is on pace for 79 targets this season that's career high it would exceed it by 29 targets um give me that every day if the Birmingham backs getting that I like Devin Singletary tonight against the Packers I think he's gonna do great but not top 12 we've had some huge performances this week running back wise you're right you're right it has been a fantasy feast this week so much you gotta look at the top scores I uh it's it's not fun when you're sitting there on the sidelines looking in like you've got your one team that just like has all the players that didn't blow up and everyone's scores are in the high 100s and you've got like 60 points just watching everybody have fun in the distance with their Jalen wattles and their Tyree kills you're like I've got my Josh Jacobs over here it's it's it was pretty fun today it was pretty fun before we go on from this game let's get some score predictions for tonight's game JL what's the final score gonna be how much are the bills winning by are you calling a packers 10 and a half point upset let's see what the the total set at 47 I'll take uh I'll say 35 31 bills 35 31 bills that would be a fun game Joey what about you I had 34 14 in my head Joey going with 34 14 and man I don't want to be a poo poo because I wanted to hit the over right there so I'm gonna go with 32 to 10 32 to 10 for the bills bills getting that victory we're all on the bill side which usually when we all pick the same team it means it goes the other way but we shall see what happens tonight I'm excited for this one yeah next game we're going to talk about guys this Jaguars game that went down today in London this morning the Broncos taking home a W beating the Jaguars 21 to 17 in the highest attended game in the NFL international series in London top attendance is it yeah yeah I heard that they lower they cheapen the tickets or lower the price so they get more people in there we're saying this morning yeah the con family they they they made some affordable price tickets to I think bump those numbers up and they announced that they were doing this uh earlier in the week so I don't think it was um yeah yeah Jacksonville was favored coming into this matchup uh by a point Denver ended up covering the total was at 40 and a half points which was of course the under here this is a pretty interesting game we saw Russell Wilson come back play he was pretty lackluster underwhelming I'd say 14.7 fantasy points 18 completions and 30 attempts 252 yards and a touchdown through an interception that sacked a lot uh it wasn't the worst Russell Wilson game but it wasn't really it wasn't what we seen as vintage Russell Wilson so I wanted to ask you guys for those people who are just looking at this box score what did you guys see with your eyes like what what do you see with Russell Wilson is he looking any better uh now that he's back or was this still just meant for you I mean he looks like a quarterback that's not Russell Wilson I don't recognize this guy that's on the field I really don't um I said this morning when on the morning show I was like what is wrong with him like is it coaching is it is it him I don't know um but I don't have much confidence in starting him and I I had to start him in a couple leagues today and I think I got like 24 fantasy points out of him and that's in a league where you get points for completions so you know barely 20 fantasy points if if that so it's it's a little scary where you've got quarterbacks putting so many points up it's bad it's bad he did not look good out there like it especially in that first half he was just looking rotten like he doesn't look like a Hall of Fame level quarterback and I think that's what we expect from Russell Wilson now that being said like I think we underestimated just how difficult it is for a quarterback no matter how elite to plug into a brand new offensive system with all new players new head coach right like this was brand new and it's not an easy system to learn um like it's supposedly a difficult system to learn under hack it this I don't want to give up on Russ like Russ is still Russell Wilson right like we've seen him we know what he can do on the field but I'm not sure it's happening this season I'm not sure it's coming together for the Broncos by the end of this year because we're not seeing it yet and we're eight weeks in like I haven't even seen much to like I know they won this game but it was against the Jaguars I haven't seen much to give me hope that it's getting better besides a drive here in there right like we see a drive it's like oh that's Russ and then it's back out and it's just the same old Broncos yeah yeah I don't I don't know like at this point if you haven't dropped them already I think it's I think it's time you drop Russell Wilson I think really but yeah it'll be cathartic the real question to me is how does he and his mediocre play the season how does it affect your fantasy decisions for these other players on the scene a lot of them highly drafted we got Melvin Gordon here of course Gervante Williams out for the season Melvin Gordon got nine carries 29 yards in the touchdown 14.2 fantasy points Latavius Murray is right there playing with him right there playing with he had 14 carries out carried him for 46 yards and a touchdown as well stupid is this a split backfield for these guys yep we've seen it was it three weeks in a row now that this yeah split looks like split looks like a both guys worth roster yeah you got to have both of them rostered in this like running back landscape right like I'm not saying start them every week but they're getting touches they both had good fantasy this week like you got it you got to have them rostered plug them in when you need them but don't try to force them into your lineup either one of them I think Russell Wilson you know impacts he impacts the running backs but he impacts the wide receivers more of course and they've been very difficult to decipher this year Jerry Judy this week seven targets six receptions 63 yards and a touchdown 18.3 fantasy points courtland Sutton 2.3 fantasy points four targets one reception the 13 yards what's going on I know courtland Sutton was before leading up in the season courtland Sutton's been the guy it's been the main wide receiver wanted believe he was drafted before Jerry Judy and most redraft formats this is two weeks now we've seen Jerry Judy be the guy what are you guys doing with both of these guys going forward I mean I'm playing my shoulders yeah sorry go ahead Jerry I'm playing Jerry Judy I mean he's the only receiver I'm gonna because I'm talking about somebody else on the minute I'm sure that I have the slightest bit of confidence in because courtland Sutton has just looked terrible so I do have some confidence Jerry Judy because I've seen it a few weeks in a row now so I don't mind putting him out there but really no one else and for as far as the wide receivers go it's interesting as we've seen Jerry Judy's usage be consistent over the last two weeks with two different quarterbacks under center right Ripon was the quarterback last week Russell Wilson's quarterback this week it's hard to tell what exactly is going on yeah it's I mean not just I think we'll get we'll get other courtland Sutton games this isn't like all of a sudden Jerry Judy's the one here in this offense I think they are two hyper talented wide receivers and they have an offense that's unable to support two hyper talented wide receivers for fantasy so you're going to see Jerry Judy games you're going to see courtland Sutton games and I think the hope going into this year was that Russell Wilson in this Denver Broncos offense would be able to support both of these guys for fantasy right and that's just we were talking about the struggles of this Denver Broncos offense we're not going to get that so you're going to have hit and miss games from both of these guys I think you're right I don't know which one I prefer rest of year we we've seen more from Sutton but Judy's been turning it on recently yeah yeah he has on the Jaguar size ball Trevor Lawrence not the best fantasy day but he looked pretty good out there in my opinion he looked pretty good Travis Etn finally had the big old week that he's that we've been wanting I've been shouting from the rooftops get your Travis Etn I help you held on from earlier in the season because it is finally Travis Etn season 24 carries 156 yards any touchdown Joey what do you is can Travis Etn be a top five running back rest of season top see top five is tough somebody asked me earlier this week about Josh Jacobs being a top five and it's like I like Josh Jacobs but no these don't think he's top five because we've got Austin Echler we've got Christian McCaffrey you know these really great running backs and I don't think Etn's at that top five level but top 12 absolutely like it's exciting to see this are you Simon what did you see from Travis Etn today but he's a freaking beast like we thought he was the Travis Etn's a monster of a running back 156 yards on the ground that's pretty high and six and a half yards a carry on 24 carries like this dude is a fantastic running back top five rest of season I don't know if the Jaguars have it in them to produce a top five running back even if this dude gets 24 carries a game like I'm just not sure this offense is good enough to have a top five back on it but top 12 I'm with Joey tuck them into the top 12 rest of season no problem in my mind especially if they're going to use them like this this is absurd 24 days they were giving work to James Robinson when he was capable of this all along crazy Evan Ingram had a pretty good day too he had six targets the four reception 55 yards and they touched down it's a pretty good touchdown should have had another one yeah he should have 15.5 you guys think Evan Ingram is out outside of the tight end glob is he at a point where his target share and his usage is high enough that that he's outside of these other groups that week in week out you don't know who to start yeah I'm I'm I'm actually happy to start either of the tight ends in this game I think both Greg Dolchitz and Evan Ingram have moved themselves out of the tight end glob even before this week with Dolchitz but now both of them rather than that glob glob glob so I could see them both being top 12 tight ends rest of season easily Joey you stole the words right out of my mouth I was gonna say yes Evan Ingram has fully severed himself but he's not the only tight end in this game that is done so it may be a little early to crown Dolchitz outside of the glob but man since he's been back his usage has been awesome um these are two tight ends that if you need a weekly start I think you can plug both of these guys into your lineup rest of season like these are this could be a set and forget it type position for me instead of streaming the guys every week they're getting the work they're getting the work and yeah thank you for bringing that up because Albert also reminded me what do you guys think about Dolchitz Dolchitz and I did didn't have a note down to ask about that so he's he's an every week start for you guys if you have him in your lineup or if you have him on your team you're they're throwing him in your lineup assuming you don't have like a Kelsey or someone else you know who's clearly above them based on position he's the most comfortable player for me to start for the Broncos like because the tight end there's just really not a whole lot out there right now and if he's getting work listen I got a tight end I'm excited about it and I feel comfortable starting them I've seen that what three weeks in a row now it is getting good enough work to support tight end 12 work so yeah I want it absolutely yeah and if you get like today you were happy with it right forwards I've been for 87 yards he just sneaks into the end zone which he's done already then you're thrilled you're thrilled any given week he's got a nice floor and uh dude's a threat for a touchdown any given week yeah I love Mr. Greg Dulcich man that is a player it's like it feels so good there's a guy that you just kind of like where you just like get excited about a player and then it happens and then they come out on the field and this was a delayed satisfaction because of the injury at the beginning of the year but man this has been like one of my favorite parts of the NFL season this year was watching Greg Dulcich just turn it on after that injury guys now we got to talk about maybe the game of the day they kept mentioning it was like freaking video game numbers on the broadcast and that's because it was final score 31 27 dolphins coming out on top over the Detroit Lions in this one yeah so 58 total points scored in this one without even needing a fourth quarter apparently dolphins trailed 27 17 at halftime and then scored 14 unanswered points in the third quarter to win 31 to 27 uh looking at the dolphins offense to a tagaloa to man my tongue is all tied today uh 22 had 29 uh passes for 36 382 yards and three touchdowns uh so two games removed from his missed games due to concussion he looks like a top 12 quarterback rest of season no questions asked he looks incredible this offense is clicking Tyree kill in jail and waddle combined for 20 receptions 294 yards and two touchdowns and they actually set the Super Bowl era record for combined receiving yards through eight games with 1688 combined yards this season um so guys are Tyree kill and jail and waddle the best receiving duo in the league right now yeah i think they are i'm without uh jamar chase and t higgins might have been like their best competition now jamar chase is injured for at least four weeks so yeah it's exciting i think the other duo like if if we're not talking from fantasy just like straight up best wide receiver duo i gotta bring up mike evans chris godwin as like a pair of wide receivers that could compete with them but for fantasy right now though you know they're just not exactly for fantasy it's clear cut jail and waddle and Tyree kill man so much fun it's so fun to watch i mean you could think of dk mech half and title locket as well but i would still rather have hillan waddle and i think we brought this up a few weeks ago like is this are they like a a duo on the rise and it's like they've they've beaten the rise so mike is sicky scored the go ahead touchdown in this game he had three recessions 38 yards and a touchdown um he most heard how to disappointing day 14 carries for 64 yards and this is his first game in five without at least 15 total touches um and but it seemed like his work was a victim of the dolphins playing from behind uh throughout the third quarter uh on the line side jared golf 27 for 37 321 yards and one passing touchdown he looked good he had two costly touchdown drops um from josh reynolds which was sad to see um but let's talk to lines running backs jamal williams 10 for 53 and two touchdowns with three receptions in 23 yards total of 22.6 ppr fantasy points for jamal williams so you look great uh deandre swift made his return to the line's offense five carries for six yards but five seven uh five receptions for 27 yards and a touchdown and that gave swift 14.3 ppr fantasy points in his first game back what are your feelings on swift going forward and do you feel like he's capped completely by jamal williams capped no i think i wouldn't say capped i wouldn't say capped i i think jamal williams is going to be a part of this offense and we've seen that not just this year we saw this last year as well it wasn't as big of a part of the offense but deandre swift is still the main guy there probably going to ease him back in okay yeah i think this is just a case of a player coming back from injury and having a serviceable backup right like they've got a guy they trust or backup is probably not even the right term to use for jamal williams he's he's their second running back like i know that sounds like a silly difference to make but he's involved in the gameplay and whether deandre swift is active or not and if deandre swift is banged up why risk injury in their starter when they've got a guy who can do it on the ground for them in jamal williams he'll be involved but swift is the dude mauner sam brown rode the team with 10 targets in this game they turned into seven receptions for 69 yards uh tj hawkinson led the team in receiving yardage with 80 yards and also had a touchdown cleave reyman another good week turning three receptions into 76 yards i mentioned earlier josh reynolds had two costly touchdown drops this is reynolds second game in a row with less than 15 receiving yards after four straight games with at least 12 fantasy points if you were rostering reynolds are you good with just cutting him loose now that are monstein brown and deandre swift have returned yeah yeah i don't i don't want yeah my backup's backup now he's yeah i'm i'm not i'm not rostering him any longer if uh if he was still sitting there i don't see what the upside is perfect that's all i got from this game guys let's move on to our next game the next game i wanted to talk about was the chicago bears at dalis cal boys game dalis coming out on top in a final score of 49 to 29 in this one welcome back dak press scott i know it's not his first game back but this felt like the welcome back party didn't it it really went it due to an absolutely nuclear for fantasy this week um if you were holding on to dak through that had him on your ir you were pretty happy to see him back there um 26.4 fantasy points went 21 for 27 250 pass yards two passing touchdowns through the air and added another one on the ground so three total touchdowns for mr dak press scott before we go any further i think people were maybe overreacting to dak last week not having the best game in the world after he came back jail are you viewing dak as a top 12 quarterback rest of season yeah i think he could be i think uh i i think i think dak could be we've known what his talent is and it's just a matter of having him healthy uh having that offensive line be healthy uh but yeah i think i think he could be what about you joey if you had to say dak press scott is a top blank quarterback rest of season what would you fill in that blank with 10 i think he's a little inside the top 12 i mean we're only what three seasons removed from dak press scott being the quarterback two and he has the talent he's got the weapons and he was down one in noah brown which who thought that was going to be a weapon come in into the season but he absolutely has turned out to be one so i think dak press scott's definitely a top 10 quarterback rest of season moving past dak let's talk some of his receiving options right now joey you mentioned noah brown not being active for this game but cd lambshire was and he saw seven targets turning into five receptions for 77 yards and a touchdown cd is that dude but dolton schultz also saw seven targets in this game turning into six receptions for 74 yards no touchdown to drive that score up like cd had but jail is dolton schultz a weekly start at the tight end position is he a set it and forget it kind of guy no he had questions about his health so far this year we've had questions about his health he's thinking a torn pcl if i'm not mistaken and he just hasn't looked the same since he come back this is like the really really the first week that we've seen him put together a solid performance fantasy wise he's not a weekly start every week well i guess it's the same thing he's not a weekly start every week not starting them every week he's 200 and i think he's part of the glob now until he's healthy he's part of the tight end glob sitting down there in the glob dolton schultz we pull an avenging room out we shove adult and schultz in the glob consumes all it is it it has no bias it doesn't matter what your name is you can find your kyle pits in the glob it doesn't matter who you are they find their way the glob will come for you glob is inevitable if you're just tuning in and you don't know what the glob is that sucks man this is probably really confusing are yeah that's probably so confusing what we're saying i uh i might have buried the lead a little bit with this game because the story that everybody wants to talk about i'm going to get to now mr tony pollard with ezekiel elliott al 14 carries 131 yards on the ground and three rushing touchdowns three rushing touchdowns for tony pollard um what's nuts though is he is not the highest scoring fantasy running back this week he's not the second highest scoring fantasy running back and he's not the third highest scoring fantasy running back this week even though he had 131 rushing yards and three rushing touchdowns he is the fourth currently he's currently the fourth behind can you guys name the three that are ahead of him just quick little quick little uh trivia he named the three backs currently out same he's ahead of him kamera is ahead of him it's the usual suspects it's exactly who you think it is just think of the best running backs in the nfl who russ for 219 yards but there's the only three running backs who have scored more than tony pollard so far this week and there are plenty of weeks this season where he would have been the top scoring back it is hard to argue with the people now that say tony pollard looks better than ezekiel elliott when he's out there like it is a it's a losing argument if you're on the zik side and i've been on that side for a long time jl do you think we could truly see a switch for this dallas cowboy's team where tony pollard becomes a lead back or is jerry jones and jerry jones money too tied to ezekiel elliott for that to happen oh simon simon my young my naive little friend jerry jones would never let that happen he's already said that right after the game simon jerry jones said tony pollard's performance today does not affect the start status of zikio elliott so he's already beat you to your question he's answered it for you zikio elliott is still the start of that there's no way jerry jones is going to part with his money that's so frustrating now getting something back it is what it is you gotta play the you gotta play reality i mean it's been almost what almost two full seasons now where tony pollard has looked like the better running back on the field and then tony pollard gets the total workload today and look what he did with it like man i will say tony pollard hasn't looked fantastic it hasn't been just zik it's been a lot of this offensive line for even zik's world but you're right the point still stands but it's worth noting i i think this offense is completely different when dax on the field with them and the running backs perform better when dax is there like cooper rush performed admirably in dax but cooper rush isn't dak prescott what's his Dakota yeah you can see it with the way defenses were playing they were not scared of cooper rush beating them through the air they were like do it if you're gonna beat us cooper rush is gonna do it do it with cooper rush they don't have that like they're not treating dak that same way right there's a different level of respect for what dak can do downfield than there was for cooper rush can do downfield so of course it's gonna help these running backs out i think that's a great point joey um jail someone needs to give jerry jones just like uh you know like the little brother who gets the controller that's not plugged in like someone needs to figure out that situation for jerry jones with like a real nfl team like how can we trick him how can we get him the little brother controller he thinks he's doing for us after this talk about his madden franchise yeah exactly like let's get him set up on a hyper realistic madden franchise maybe get him like an oculus and you won't know the difference and just play him playing madden gm and vr and exactly he has no idea what it is you just put it on all of a sudden he's gonna think he's there on the other side of the ball for the chicago bears justin fields putting together a couple's good performances in a row prior to the past couple weeks um justin field titan finished higher than quarterback 23 on the season but over the past three weeks quarterback 13 quarterback eight quarterback five and then another solid performance from him in week eight joey what's your comfort level with justin fields starting him in fantasy i was really excited to see justin fields playing this game because the dallas cowboy defense is really good so i'm like okay let's see justin fields has three good weeks in a row let's see how he does against a great defense and he performed really well i for fantasy purposes i want justin fields on my teams i drafted a lot of russia wilson this year and i am not happy about it so i'm going out i'm making trades to get justin fields if i can and i'm buying high this is gonna be his yeah this will be his fourth week in a row inside the top 12 because he's currently at quarterback five and there's only four quarterbacks left to play right so he's gonna be inside the top 12 inside the top 13 four weeks in a row top 12 three weeks in a row i'm with you joey you can start him you can start justin fields and feel okay about it you've got a back end qb1 high end qb2 jail do you have the same level of confidence for fields after what we've seen over the past four weeks i think a lot of his his fantasy points are are coming from rushing which are good it's good like we seen that work with jaylin hurts but i don't know that justin fields is jaylin hurts and we're still seeing pretty low pass volume which which concerns me so every restart no i don't think he is but see is he a flexible start or someone you can you could throw in yeah absolutely and i saw albert in here saying look at the bears upcoming schedule the next couple weeks look pretty good for justin fields they've got my amy trade then the lions then the falcons yeah three weeks in a row that's that's pretty hot that's a pretty hot stretch for justin fields this is a good time to go to a choir i'm joey if you are going to trade for him this is a good week to do it because the next three weeks are going to be sexy before we talk a little bit more about this 16 yeah i was going to say that maybe not sexy that's do not start justin fields against buffalo in your fantasy championship just don't do it um we're healing here on a question for us want to know gape davis or tyler boyd to start um since jamar chases out joey are you starting gape davis or tyler boyd so yeah we got this question this morning a few times uh some different iterations of it and i'm gonna go date gape davis because with tyler boyd my concern with tyler boyd is the cleveland defense they're actually pretty good against slot receivers um and when they're that close um gape davis has that home run ability he plays tonight enjoy the game tonight you've got a player in it now i'm going gape davis as well i like tyler boyd tyler boyd's a top 24 wide receiver for me this week but the uh gape davis is a high-end wide receiver too and he's got that upside he can go off for two touchdowns and this is supposed to be a high scoring game and that's the matchup you want against the packers right it it looks all right and he's my daughter's teacher's nephew did i say that right yes there you go jail who are you starting it's gape davis for me as well triple gape before we move on from this game i wanted to bring up there's a little bit of uh just like on the other side of the ball we're talking about the backup maybe being the better back of the two we have a similar case on the other side of the ball as well khalil herbert looking pretty good in this game had 16 carries turning into 99 yards and a touchdown compared to david montgomery with 15 for 53 joey i thought after khalil herbert showed up while david montgomery was gone that we might see the passing of the guard then david montgomery comes back is the like the workhorse back again all of a sudden but now we're seeing khalil herbert with just as many carries as david montgomery are we going to see this this like committee approach this split backfield or do you think one of these backs separates themselves i mean i think david montgomery i did a few different things i think david montgomery still has a lot of talent and this is the last year in his contract with the bears so i do think that we're going to see them continue to use david montgomery just because after next year they know what they have in khalil herbert i think for dynasty go out and get khalil herbert he has a bad week coming up because he is the bears running back starting next year to have absolutely guys let's uh let's move on from that game we can only talk bears for so long before we got to talk about something else the eagles absolutely dominating the pittsburgh steelers 35 13 in this one yes the the the philadelphia eagles 7 and 0 7 and 0 the only 7 and 0 team left they're good we listen i said it all off season the philadelphia eagles are making moves this this off season they made so many trades where i was like they've clearly won this and so they they are coming to for us they are absolutely a contender this year and they are showing it this uh this week against pittsburgh kenny pickett saw the start again today uh wasn't the best start for him he had 25 completions 38 attempts 191 yards no touchdowns he did throw an interception not the best day for kenny pickett a lot of people were hyped for george pickens this week three targets zero receptions he got shut down george pickens got shut down in this game chase claypool led this team in receiving 12.54 fantasy points pretty good day for for chase claypool and then deontay johnson had 8.5 fantasy points on nine targets five receptions 35 yards no touchdowns oh boys what happened to george pickens today i was i think the problem i think the problem is um kenny pickett is bad kenny pickett is bad at football so even if he's targeting george pickens you can just get games like this like it he just doesn't look good he doesn't look in command of this offense it doesn't look like these receivers are on the same page as him um i'm nervous starting like i feel like any of these pittsburgh stealers receiving options are gamble weekend we got with kenny pickett under center anything dad there joey no i just i was whipped it's my big width of the day big with naji harris another uh middling fantasy production uh or fantasy performance this week 11.96 fantasy points eight carries 38 yards 32 yards i'm sorry no touchdowns naji harris kind of what you see is what you get i guess this season is the is the motif jaylon herz had a very good day on the other side of this ball 28.4 fantasy points beautiful yeah really really fantastic performance from him 140.6 passer rating this week really good jaylon herz it's doing well it's doing well 19 completions 28 attempts 285 yards four touchdowns at this point where do you guys say like is is jaylon herz going to be drafted in that top three going into next fantasy season this is this is the first time this week when i did my rankings i put jaylon herz number one over josh alan because i really believed in him against his pittsburgh defense today um and listen proved me wrong josh alan come out and put up more points in jaylon herz tonight because he looks like a top three quarter back in this league for fantasy purposes absolutely please do it josh alan i'm gagging me i want to believe me i want to see please yeah josh alan do it please please my season depends on it josh and on the the receiving side of this a j brown had himself a day an outing 42.6 fantasy points 11 targets six receptions 156 yards three yes you heard me right three touchdowns three receiving touchdowns wow a j brown incredible i don't think there's much to say beyond that i'm sorry a j brown for doubting you on a new team um i want to apologize for looking over the fact that you're um an incredible athlete and an unbelievable football player and trying to pin a rush heavy philadelphia eagles offense is the reason you won't succeed i won't make the mistake next year because holy s**t is a j brown a good football player he's so good yeah i don't have to apologize to him because i believed in him he did believe davonti smith 7.3 fantasy points 8 targets 5 reception 23 yards no touchdowns in this game i know all three of us are disappointed in that because we all thought it was going to be a davonti smith day yeah absolutely here's my apologies begin i'm sorry to everyone that i told to start davonti smith i i truly thought this was going to be a game where it was going to be spread out a little bit more and a j brown wasn't going to have three touchdowns and 156 yards i thought davonti smith would get a little bit more work um i mean he still had eight targets so it's not like he was completely ignored um i think they're still good weeks ahead for him this i'm sad but i'm not discouraged that's what i was going to say joey's i'm not apologizing for anything whenever i told people to start davonti smith because he still got eight targets he just didn't do enough with him right like that is what i was expecting was for him to be heavily targeted in this game he still got heavily targeted it just didn't pan out you got better davonti smith weeks ahead of you there's enough in this offense for both of these guys to eat guys that's enough eagles jail did you have anything else on the eagles here before we moved on no i did not i was going to say i see some comments here in the chat he can't be saying stack davis and digs with josh allen yeah absolutely definitely sounds good you know there's this whole thing about people like i don't want to play two receivers on the same team when you've got gabriel davis and stephan digs play two receivers on the same team you're gonna be okay i have to choose one choose digs yeah we're going out on a limb there jail without an alice is right there i got you i'm with you and if you're trying to decide between um i just lost right now is you're in a honda civic go with the honda civic go with the honda it'll keep you grounded and its battery doesn't die if you don't drive it every day so that helps you out as well great sorry that i am late i do have a note for my parents though you will set that note please pass it to joey thank you i'll put it in my hat as this next game i want to talk about the minnesota viking sticking on the arizona cardinals 34 to 26 in this one yeah so another high scoring affair 60 combined points as minnesota vikings beat the arizona cardinals 34 to 26 for their fifth straight victory uh kurt cousins had a great day 24 for 36 for 232 yards passing and two touchdowns and hey guess what he had a rushing touchdown so that's nice to see from him i know jl is just ecstatic right now because he's so ecstatic her cousins um dalvin cook rushed for a season high 111 yards on 20 carries and he also had a touchdown and five receptions for 30 yards great performance out of dalvin cook um alexander madison only touched the ball uh was it five times but turned into 40 yards in a touchdown so he's pretty efficient with that justin jefferson six receptions for 98 yards you're happy to see the 98 yards kind of probably wish there was a touchdown added on to that adam thieland six receptions for 67 yards and the two receiving touchdowns in this game were of course scored by kj osbourne and johnny month just like we all drew it up on the cardinals side of the ball kylin murray 31 for 44 326 yards passing for three touchdowns and two receptions and he added 36 yards rushing that's a good to see from kyler outside of kylin murray the cardinals running game was rather quiet you know benjamin couldn't follow fantasy week seven performance finished with 13 total touches for 45 yards and that's receiving and rushing combined so black from him but bright spot deandre hopkins this is deandre hopkins second consecutive hundred yard receiving game he was 12 for 159 and a touchdown and he's averaging 13 targets a week since he's come back from the suspension with this type of workload i'd like to play a little game with deandre hopkins or simon deandre hopkins or t higgins rest of season deandre hopkins okay jail deandre hopkins or davante adams davante adams okay simon deandre hopkins or mike evans deandre hopkins okay this is the hardest one for me so i kind of want all three of us to go on this deandre hopkins or jail and waddle jail and waddle jail and waddle uh that's where the line is i think is it because i i that was the name i struggled with um these are all top 10 receivers by the way so basically deandre hopkins is the top 10 wide receiver rest of season would you guys agree with that if he's getting this kind of volume we already know what kind of talent he has right so he's going to get 13 targets a game he has to be honestly that might be a little bit conservative to call him a top 10 receiver if he's going to get this target volume but yeah um small sample size right since he's been back it is small it is small but he has a large sample size from a career that shows that he does what that's going to work out there anyway i think deandre hopkins with this with this target volume this is this is vintage deandre hopkins where he's getting 13 targets a game he's the only receiver in town that's what that's what we're used to and it's used in texans days yeah it's so exciting to see from him um zachard so not exciting uh four receptions to 34 yards he did have a touchdown so that's good um after averaging 8.5 targets per game and the first six games of the season earth has just nine targets in his past two weeks notable since the return of deandre hopkins with today's game saved by a touchdown are you looking to move zachard's or do you see better days ahead for him jail i see i i think there'll be better days ahead for for zachard's i mean deandre hopkins coming in he's he is commanding the target share so we've seen just the last two games zachards his targets have been essentially cut in half uh this is it's alarming it is it is definitely alarming i still think there will be better days ahead for him he's a featured part of this offense and with injury you're you're you know it's it's unclear whether whether that situation will change for zachards or not i'd say he's a hold right now okay christen here on that note had a question for us and i have andrew's and earths i desperately need a running back would you do earths for single terry absolutely i would trade away earths for single terry right now would you guys do that i would do yesterday i would and cross your fingers the bills don't trade for a running back yeah that's a good point if camara ends up over there you're kind of screwed right but if anybody gives you pushback on that trade and like listen i think single terry if he has a good performance tonight i think the bill is kind of back off from wanting to make a trade um use that as a as a bargaining chip like well you know the bills have been talking about bringing running back in so at least you know earths will be the tight end for the cardinals that's the kind of conversation you could have with the person yeah and just for um quick update joe you mentioned on our morning show this morning but we had south kupachi a beat reporter for the buffalo bills on our show and he seems to believe uh from talking to people inside the organization that the bills don't have like like a need a desire a strong desire to trade for a running back like they're making their calls they're doing their due diligence but this is a josh allen offense they have josh allen into morgan's their future on a running back when this game runs through him he seemed to believe that's not the direction they're going so might help you out there might give you a little bit more faith in single terry dame also wanted to know who else had the stafford cousins rushing td parlay you have that one jay nope no i would never put my money on kirk cousins also a question in here from well i'm just gonna call you pr what's up pr i guess there would be a situation where i would it's if he if i was betting on him to lose okay then you'd put some that's not let's putting money against kirk cousins right i guess yeah but it's still on instead of you're right you're right would you ever put your money physically on him oh easily it's so dirty that oh god disgusting money on the disgusting her cousin pr in here out of question said full ppr should they flex erin jones or gabe davis last play of the week they're down 164 to 178 so they need at least 14 points from this player jl erin jones or gave davis where are you going here if you're pr uh i'm gonna go with erin jones it's full ppr yeah oh no then i'm gonna go gave davis sorry gave davis for me what about you joey are you agreeing with jail or are you going here so for i think both these players will get 15 fantasy points tonight just the way the game shop's gonna work out i think erin jones could end up leading the team in targets tonight for the packers because we i don't think romeo dubbs is gonna have the night that other people do and that's fine but yeah erin jones i think can get 15 fantasy points but if you kind of want that shirt thing i think gave davis is a little more solidified in that i'm with you guys it's gonna be gave davis for me as well also chris wanted to know um chris had a follow-up would singletary be the best running back they could get for urts i think that's near the top if we're being honest chris like i do think singletary is near the top of the running backs that you could get for urts um take a peek plug for our friend alex peaked in high school on twitter he's on twitter at peaked in hs underscore ff um he puts out weekly trade value charts that aggregate all the data on what players are currently going for what their ecr is and it's a pretty good place to start whenever you're looking to trade values chris but singletary and urts on that chart are pretty close together and the other backs in that range i don't have too much interest in um ezekiel elliott or kareem hunt i would rather singletary over both of those guys the rest of the season legacy in here on a question for us said would you do justin jefferson and camara for cmc and boyd so trade away jefferson and camara for cmc and boy jail that's a no for you no you need the boy does boy does not does not belong in this conversation with these players and it's not a big enough upgrade from camara to cmc to take the downgrade from jefferson to boyd in my eyes higgins i would think about a little bit more and probably still say no yeah higgins uh i'm gonna say that i'm gonna take that trade and run it that if that was higgins sarah in here says down 11 and a half ppr start gabe davis or t higgins this is where my gabe davis love comes to an end i'm starting t higgins without jamar chase in monday night football what about you guys yeah higgins higgins higgins higgins we got a triple higgins for you there sarah eggs guys let's move on to our next game and this one man just as exciting as all of the other games we talked about so far today the new orleans saints and the las vegas raiders with an absolute offensive shit oh wait no the saints one 24-0 because apparently the raiders suck raiders suck the raiders suck wait i'm so sad that the raiders suck um i thought this was going to be a decent scene this offense looked like it had all the pieces to look great and yet here they go lay in a complete goose egg against the new orleans saints joey before we even get into any of like the fantasy matchups fantasy implications what is going on with the las vegas raiders like are they just a bad team i think they are a bad team i think people got excited when adams came in and thought this is the missing piece this nsc west is unbeatable this is the division to be and it's it's proved that it's not and especially the raiders um i mean we mentioned earlier that every quarterback that's gone up against him's been a quarterback one i think it ended now with indy dalton i don't believe he's top 12 he could be though two touchdowns there um but yeah i do i don't believe in this raiders offense it's hard to i mean darren waller's been gone but i don't think that's a missing piece they didn't have him last year and they look better than they do now is a coaching thing is that what's going on here is it is it the new coaching staff in town or just holes in the roster um i guess we'll find out we'll find out as the season goes on if they get any better um outside of what the hell happened to the raiders what the hell happened to darrett car today darrett car did not look like a good quarterback out there he went 15 for 26 for 101 yards zero touchdown interceptions darrett stidham came into the game when eight for 13 zero touchdown zero interceptions and when you look at their fantasy days i mean it really didn't matter which one you ended up starting both ended with around 2.8 fantasy points for you so you're pretty disappointed dale is this is darrett car showing that maybe he's declining that this isn't the same darrett car we've seen in years past or just uh is this a matter of what we're talking about this is a bad team bad offense and we're starting to see it affect darrett car i think we're i think darrett car is showing us that he is exactly who he's been all along this is not darrett car being a good quarterback it's just a recent thing that's just this past year really i feel like or it's that this the past season i don't before we got this up and down inconsistent darrett car and i think that's who we have again i think eventually things 10 towards the mean and darrett car is being brought back down to earth i don't know that it's just that but i think that's part of it i don't think darrett car can fly on his own i'll argue against that i think darrett car is an above average NFL quarterback like and it's not just recent in 2016 he was one of the front runners for the mvp if you're like like know what i mean like we go back and we see darrett car put up like mvp caliber seasons that is in his range of outcomes that means i don't think yeah i i'm just seeing like this doesn't scream to me like this screams something's wrong something's up something's changed is all i'm saying but you think maybe not this is just we should have seen this comment i was surprised that he kept it going for so long to be honest gotcha and if jay was here he would have something else to say after that jail but i'm not going to sink that low um joey do we have better days ahead for darrett car i mean it's got to be better than this i know that's not the answer you're looking for but 101 yards and an interception i mean put me out there i can do at least half that you know so yeah i i i think we do see better stuff in darrett car ahead also dames that i don't see adams on that stat sheet yeah yeah me neither and um you're pretty sad about it five targets one reception for three yards it was not a good day for davante adams and honestly with putting up zero points getting down early i don't know how much we can take from the receiving game here just that this raiders offense is a mess and maybe downgrade all of the options here on the saint side of the ball though alvin camara welcome to the touchdown club this season welcome to the touchdown club question his first touchdown of the year on the ground then added another two through the year and how many players are we going to talk about today with three plus touchdowns seems like it's just happening over and over and over again um alvin camara is alvin camara jail how are you valuing him rest of season we've talked about his potential suspension incoming but he comes out here and does something like this and they get the w does this bump him up does this make you think it's less likely that the saints kind of give up on this season yeah because i think they're still in the running their division is so bad that they're still in the running for the playoff for a playoff spot so i think it's less it's it's far less likely that uh that alvin camara gets a submission this year yeah i uh i tend to agree with you there joey for the receiving options in this game chris olave with the most targets of any wide receiver alvin camara out targeted him seven targets turning into five receptions for 52 yards he's been pretty nice for fantasy while michael thomas and jarvis landry have been out but i what i want to know from you is with these players returning when michael thomas comes back how are you viewing chris olave do you think he's still the one in this offense or does michael thomas take that job back you know i think olave could be even better once michael thomas gets back because right now when there's a receiver running out everyone's looking at chris olave so i think getting another competent receiver on the on the field with him is going to only help him so five for 52 i had him as a top 10 wide receiver this week so yeah i'm gonna miss the mark on that but still five for two that's 10 fantasy points that doesn't hurt that doesn't kill you today it does not we're gonna stick into vision and move on to our next game i know we're running up on sunday night football here but we have to talk about this overtime game the panthers losing to the falcons 37 34 snatching defeat from the jaws of victory multiple times in this one was crazy pj walker the peach to diege connection lives oh my god that insanity they should have won this game dj morrick hot the game-winning cat and then and then they couldn't finish it they couldn't finish it they missed two game-winning field goals that's your point uh i'm sorry yeah you're right two game-winning kicks and atlanta young wake who was able to come in and finish finish it up win this game and unfortunately the carolina panthers lost but for fantasy good day very good day for for any carolina panthers people you started pj walker 20.68 fantasy points deont to form in 34.8 fantasy points dj morrick 30.5 fantasy points terrace marshal a name that you might not have heard in a while 12.7 fantasy points even la visca chanel got in on this 7.6 fantasy points it was a day for the carolina panthers and that is two that's makes two weeks now that we've seen carolina panther panthers show up for fantasy are you guys confident going forward in this team are you as it wheels up god they hated they hated matt rule didn't they like they just hated matt rule is what this screams to me because now all of a sudden there's a life here cargo dance they just look so excited out there with matt rule not on the sideline trust may be the wrong word but i feel a lot more comfortable plugging dj morrick into my lineup than i did a couple weeks ago like i'm plugging them in if i if he's on my team he's in my lineup in most leagues now whereas i was benching him for guys like i don't know alan was our brain and i youth previously now dj morrick's in that lineup yeah i i was really down on myself because i was so high on dj morrick this season but the last two weeks has brought me right back up so but dot to form and listen we saw it last year when he was with tennessee that he's a very capable running back and since cmc's gone to san francisco he's shown that uh so i'm actually very comfortable rolling him out there uh in the matchups yeah he wants you was out especially while tube is out yeah and he's the guy there now a cmc uh in san francisco is teres marshal worth picking up no in deep leagues out i don't mind it i don't i'm saying i'm saying deep leagues i yeah i like i get it and my my answer was a little bit just tongue in cheek because i've given up on teres marshal i was so excited for him coming out and then he just hasn't performed yet honestly in a deep league i don't mind taking a shot on him nine targets is hard to ignore right but also this game was a little bit wild like this was a this was a crazy passing game for both of these teams so maybe you get another game like this but this has got to be a ceiling right like this is this is your height for what you get from teres marshal yeah i think that's fair i think that's fair on the falcon side as ball marcus mariota had a great game great game 24.42 fantasy points we saw the return of kyle pitt's 19 fantasy points this week let's go nine targets five receptions 80 yards and a touchdown for mr kyle pitt's is he back guys are you picking him up if he's uh if he's out there on your waivers this week wasn't on waivers he was on my bench in every league though that i had him like i benched him i see him on some of my waivers out there really wow evan ingram or kyle pitt's rest of season mm-hmm kyle pitt's one game you're ready to just switch over there i i think it hasn't been one game i haven't been i haven't been off the kyle pitt's train i believe between it out just like two weeks ago or so that that i just expect i'd rather just wait and see for kyle pitt's so you're not starting them yeah yeah i don't play you i'll hope the talent they figure out how to use talent i mean and honestly what might be going on is arthur smith is going oh shit i'm gonna lose my job if i don't start doing what they want like if i'm losing and kyle pitt's isn't getting any targets a game they're gonna fire me no i mean but if he's out there and their best players are getting the targets getting work like then they can't point to oh this idiot isn't chucking the ball to their best player right so jail maybe if we see more of this maybe this is arthur smith going okay like i'm not going to get fired because i'm not throwing the ball to kyle pitt's yeah could be right could be beef could be beef mr scamp said no you know what i'm happy they're exciting i just really wanted the three five division leader yeah that would have been hilarious yeah how can you uh that would have been awesome i was here for the panthers just for that just for the idea that matt rule gets fired and then two weeks later they're leading the division that was the narrative i wanted and that was the narrative i was absolutely celebrating whenever they scored what should have been the game when he touched down it should have they should have tyler alger had a pretty good game seven point seventeen point five fantasy points this week what is what is he resting season for you guys where is tyler alger land he's probably a flex borderline rb2 until cordial patterson comes back yeah i was going to say you're it's an rb2 with uh with an expiration date right strikes yeah there's there's an expiration date cordial patterson should only be out another couple weeks and then he's going to step right back in and take over this backfield i feel like yeah yeah i think you're right or or hear me out he comes back his job has been taken by young buck nah paterson looks better when he's out there on the field know what i mean like if one of these guys have like clearly run away with it and look like an absolute stud then we'd have in that conversation but these guys look they look good sometimes yeah sometimes not sometimes good like kaila puntley's at his games tyler alger's at his games and cordial patterson's gonna have his job when he comes back because of that right at least in my my costume is falling off guys oh i think that means it's uh it's time for us to wrap up i know sunday night football's about to start we got the packers at the bills in buffalo a big game bills big favorites we'll see if it turns out that way everybody who tuned in thank you so much for hanging out with us this sunday evening breaking down the days games joey i know you're so ready to go climb into bed so we're going to get you out of here asap um jail give us your best toilet paper roll impersonation before we go that was so good that was incredible dames say and have a lovely evening craig with the well done fellas thank you guys so much craig we love you before you go hit that like button make sure you're subscribed to fan duel on youtube and then check them out across all their other socials we're talking tiktok instagram twitter at fan duel everywhere and they got a whole team of content creators almost as well dressed as we are today having you guys win some money just killer in you say we've still got bills mafia to play go bills go bills indeed enjoy the rest of your week eight we are out of here and we'll see you guys next week bye bye