 So what is happening here is the former president as constitutional immunity. Prosecution starts from investigations. You cannot search the premises of the former president. He enjoys constitutional immunity. What is happening here is totallessness and should not be allowed. Many Zambians remember that I worked for the former president, Dr. Frederick Churwa, for 10 years. We had similar situations where the task force on corruption wanted to search the former president before his immunity was lifted. It was not possible. And you will remember that the day that Dr. Churwa's immunity was lifted, a horde of police like this stormed his residence. And that process went for two years. And the task force on corruption and the police stayed the way they couldn't search him until the Supreme Court at the time confirmed the coming from President Haka'inde Ichilema. At every turn, he's accusing his former president that he will not allow that to happen. So when the president, sitting president says, I will not allow this to happen, what does that mean? This is what it means. Law enforcement agencies will be lawless to people like President Longu because he's at the mouth of the current president. He has so far spoken three times disparaging his former president and saying he will not allow the former president as if President Haka'inde Ichilema is a constitution. President Longu is eligible to stand if he wants. But he has said he's in retirement and you need to respect that. So I just wanted to emphasize that what you are seeing here is totallessness, abuse of the constitution, abrogation of the constitution. And these police officers must leave. Whoever is directing them, they must leave because they are here illegally. If they want, let them leave this immunity. Then they can come and investigate and search him. I have seen the former president, Dr. Edgar Chagua Longu. I have seen the former first lady, Mama Esther Longu. The police were here slightly before six and this standoff you are seeing has been going on for the last four hours. They requested that their lawyers be present because you've seen the horde of police that are here. They really, I don't know what they've come for because this is not for an investigation, especially for the armed policemen that are here. We wish to restate that the former president as constitutional immunity. You cannot search his premises. You cannot. The former first lady, according to the search warrant who they want, they can issue a police call out and she will comply. But you can't forcibly attempt to go into the premises where the former president is. Whether it's a rented property or not, you cannot do that. That's total lawlessness. They claim that they want to search the former first lady. They claim that there are certain vehicles that they are looking for and that they want to then search the house and the entire premises. The lawyers have read to them what the law states, that the first lady is a spouse to the former president and the two live together at this house. And this house, they cannot have access to it, whether they purport that they are doing investigations or they wish to prosecute until they do what the law is required. I have had negotiations with the police. The name of Mr. Sian Dengue, commissioner of police, keeps on coming up. He's the one directing this entire operation. Mr. Sian Dengue, I want to look you in the eye. You report to the president, you are probably seated next to the president. You are probably briefing the president about this illegality. Advise the president the correct thing because the abuse of the law you are doing is the president who is committing this breach. It is not you. You are appointed by the president and if you wish to be unlawful, if you wish to perpetuate legality, it's the president you are putting on the line for future prosecutions. If this government is keen to investigate the former president, they should do what is allowed by the law. The president is in jovial mood, is shocked by this conduct. The former First Lady of Sina, she is willing to go to the police even now if the issue is called out to find out why they want her. She has wondered why they are dealing with her, like she's a fugitive. She said the last time the DEC wanted me, I reported to DEC. What is the difference where they come up? 0-4, 0-5 and they come with such warrants purporting that she has stolen vehicles. Can the First Lady steal vehicles? We want to work our ways. Sure, it's time now. What's happening? Have they been allowed to go ahead? The police have threatened to storm the residents. We are waiting for them to break the law. We are waiting for them to breach the law. The law is very clear. This is where the former president is. If Sian Dengue has told them that they can breach, they get and enter and go and search, for us there is nothing we can do. Because if the police wish to behave like we are a police state, we can't bond with them. We are not fighting, yet. They are fighting. They are fighting. I am not going to be able to think. I am not going to think. And before I allow Ponovo GBM to come in, we as a patroly front are putting this on President Hakainda Ichilema. He's the one that keeps on issuing public statements that he will not allow the former president to come in. So what does he mean when he says he will not allow him? As the president becomes the constitution, even when President Lungu has said that he's not coming back, he has said that he's in retirement. The fear by President Hakainda against his predecessor is now motivating this lawlessness you have seen today. So what we are saying is my first lady, make her our president. So how will you conduct that search without breaching the constitutional rights of the former president? I call that to be stupid and nonsensical. For someone to send some people to come and start searching for a former president. Mind you, you should also realize that one day you'll be a former. Just because you've seen that the PF is still popular, it will remain popular. Zambians are suffering. Why don't you first deal with the issues of Zambians, the way they are suffering. Give them food, give them three meals a day which you promised them. Today you are Western, even PF. Because you've seen that the popularity of our former president is getting higher, now you want to start intimidating. We are there to support him. Let's stand up for Eddie Galungu. Let's support him. People of Zambia, you've seen the difference now between PF and UPND. You've seen who are saying the truth. Who are the hypocrites? Who are the liars? Who lied to you that they will turn this country into a gold mine? Today Zambia is something else. People are suffering like nobody's business. When I walk in a supermarket, everybody there is complaining. People have become Western their way under the leadership of President Eddie Galungu. What I'm trying to say is that please stop intimidating. Stop harassing the former president. He has told you in no uncertain times that he is not returning back to politics. We are there and I'm one of the presidential candidates. Now, we know in case I'm in and they're in. So 2026, Mundo Leleban and they say. So, you can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. Stop lying to the Zambian people. You lied to their multi-doal and they will take you away. You were at a lot of elections around the world. The lawyers today have let you down. There is a lot of hunger. First deal with issue of hunger. People are suffering. Thank you, thank you Honour Bojibian. You should arrest the high cost of living, you should arrest the high cost of fuel, you should arrest the high cost of food prices, you should not be arresting his political opponents. My reiteration is to Deputy Police Inspector General Mr. Sian Dengue. By the way I worked with him in western province, he was my police commissioner at the time. I'm sincerely appealing to you. You cannot subvert, you cannot abuse the powers of the Inspector General of Police. You are a deputy. It's imperative that you respect that hierarchy. I am the president of the QA, I am the president of the QA, I am the boss of the Mausoleum film company. Do not conduct operations that are political, be professional as a police. That is our advice to Commissioner Sian Dengue and we are on fame ground. That is one maliciously directing this process. Okay, you are aware that we are here the police arrived at zero six hours just before six and they demanded to search the premises they said they had obtained a warrant to search the premises this premises is the residence of the former president Zambia's sixth president Dr. Edgar Chagwa and technical issues arise constitutional issues arise legal issues arise the police purport that they are looking for the first lady and that they are issues connected to the former first lady that they want to search according to the warrant I have not seen the world our lawyers informed them that this is a premises of the former president we enjoy his constitutional immunity and it's not possible that you can search the first lady who lives at the premises of the former president it's just not possible because you've been interfering with the constitutional rights of the former president I went in earlier and I spoke both to the president and to the former first lady and the former first lady made it very clear that she's lawful law-abiding citizen she has previously been called for investigations to the drug enforcement commission and she complied so she wondered why there was this huge operations operation against her she has advised his lawyers please come sir please come join us she has advised the lawyers that if the police want want they can issue a police call out and she will comply and come to the police however the police have insisted that they need to conduct searches and the various consultations that have been going on the last one now appear that the police are determined to conduct the search the standoff you are seeing is exactly that now the former president has not consented to the search of his premises he has not but the police are insisting that they'll conduct the search you've seen back and forth our lawyers and the police having those discussions we have made it very clear that if they want a former first lady she will report to the police if there's anything they want connected to her whether it's a motor vehicle or whatever and if she has knowledge about it she will avail it to the police so this is where we are the police have sent a word to the former president and the former first lady that they are determined to execute the warrant so where entry has been denied I don't know how they will execute other than to storm the premises other than to bugle into the premises other than to force entry into their premises Honourable welcome to this interview aware of what is happening and hope you are following no offense please you can say the remarks especially on behalf of the patriotic front well I think what you said is adequate we all know that this is as a result of paranoia that miss HLM has and the UP and they are two things at work one the fact that the front remains strong and united to there's a man people are debating the performance of miss HLM in comparison to the performance of president and clearly the distinction is in black and white and therefore they are friends have been running a narrative which in the process have decided to believe a narrative of the coming back of former president I think colleagues have already commented on so that is what is at work this is total madness to have a former head of state who enjoys immunity are being stormed by a police to have a search in the manner that this is being conducted it's very unfortunate but I can only one my brother miss HLM you can only govern in the midst of peace you can't govern in the midst of confusion ever is advising you but I'm not I'm not I'm just advising you as a young brother, can you stop this nonsense? Thank you very much. Thank you colleagues, we'll wait for the storming in.