 That was the signing day of the DC. Oh, yeah? Are there some players? Yeah. OK, good. So it strange me that this is signing day. The signing day is in December. Yeah, it's a little different, a little different. But hey, just where are you all at? And in San Francisco, what's the offensive side of the ball? We didn't even run the ball last three games and so forth. I think it's, you talk about the run game, I think it's been productive for us the last couple of weeks and it's something that we've continued to hammer away at all season and chip away at it in practice and certainly done a nice job upfront and in the backfield getting that run game going for us. And certainly, going to be another point of emphasis again this week, we're going against a defense that's strong and physical, good linebackers, good front four and they're aggressive. And so it's going to be a great challenge for us. And what about when you look over there, you see both of them. That's how I've been saying. Fred Warner and a lot of people don't know about him. All they do is get him to play a Monday. They should. And what about Fred and him kind of being the guy that's going to try to be shedding down the run game? He's a very good player. Fred's a really good player, athletic, has really good speed. He's physical. He's instinctive. I think that's one of the things, when you watch him play, he has good instinct both in the run game and the pass game. And then you mentioned both up front, I mean, really good edge setter for them, really good pass rusher. I think he has like 12 sacks or something like that. So he's done a nice job. Six? 14. 14, yeah. Positive thinking on my end. That's lovely. Yeah, two of them, I guess. But yeah, he's a really good player. And he's improved a lot since played against him in the past. And I think he's developed into a really physical player, really good pass rusher, very talented. So again, two guys, we've got to be aware of where they're at. And we certainly have to do a good job making sure we're communicating and getting guys on them. In their secondary, Arvind Thomas had to play last week to have Dante's mom pass away. But when they're at full strength, how does that move look like then? Yeah, it's a group that they've had different guys playing at different times. And so I think they're talented. Across the board, they've got good players there. And they sync up well with what they do in the front end. And I think you see guys who do a great job of recognizing patterns are aggressive in breaking on the ball. They've done a nice job as a team of creating turnovers, both interceptions, and punching the ball out. So I think their secondary is good. What's different from the other? I mean, other than some COVID protocols, it's business as usual. I think the one thing that, having done it for the last two years, you learn to be flexible. And we have certain setups to handle when this kind of stuff happens. And you have to make the best of it. And I think Art's done a good job of spacing things out, doing some stuff virtual. And I think the guys have done a good job of locking in when you need to lock in. I mean, for some of the guys, for me, it's all been in person. We've got the barn out here, which is nice for us to be able to use as a meeting space where you can space out and social distance or whatever. And I think Art's done a good job with that. But unfortunately, I guess probably not seeing Mike on the other side. Yeah, I'm bummed for him. Obviously, I always pull for him to play well, to be healthy. And I know he was bummed to have the season over with the injury. But he's got a lot of years ahead of him, a lot of good football in front of him. I'm convinced of that. And bummed, he's not able to play. I mean, the injury was kind of a long time ago. So I think with just COVID and everything, I think I don't think it's probably as big as the last time we were out there. But necessarily, it's a massive statistical part of the season. How does that change, maybe, how you look at offense, right? How you look at what you're looking at. You know, I don't think it changes. I think you go into it with the mindset that whatever we have to do, we've got to do to win. And whether that's being thrown at 50 times, running it 50 times, whatever that is, you know, you have to find a way to get it done. But as far as approaching week to week any different, for me it's the same. It's trying to find the right spot to go with the football, with the plays we have called, and with the coverages that they're going with. And so whether it's emphasized in wide receivers, running backs, tight ends, whatever that is, it's always a little bit different every week with what you're trying to attack. But from a mindset standpoint, I try and keep it pretty simple for me. Be out there, make sure I'm getting us in the right place and trying to go with the right spot with the ball. Well, you know, I think, you know, obviously we'd like to have one turnover back that we had the other afternoon. But protecting the football, you know, pretty well, making a point of emphasis of that. But also, you know, I talked a lot, you know, a couple of weeks ago about backside combination blocks. And it's guys, you know, it's not anything magic. It's guys understanding that those things are important. And the effort that they're giving in there has been really good. I also think, you know, understanding situations. You look at the end of the game, you know, with Kyle, as a rookie player, you know, getting the first down, kind of winding back in, protecting the football, keeping the clock running. End of half, last week, you know, I know some people you could want to be aggressive or whatever, but the way the game was shaking out, you know, with the lead that we have, it's end of half with the football sometimes is okay, you know, and not giving them anything. I think the last couple of weeks, we've done a decent job of that. Last year, you got with two and eight in one score game, and fast one to this year, you got six and two. You know, being that you experienced both, like, what is the kind of feel or vibe you get from just a game plan, play-call, and whatever, versus last year to this year, now that you are successful in those close games? Yeah, I think, you know, for me, it's probably not all that different. I mean, I think that it comes down, I've always said it, you know, the margin for error in this league is razor thin, you know, and so the difference is a handful of plays here. I think across the board, we've done a good job situationally, for the most part, you know, in those, what is it, six and two, in those eight games of, you know, end in halves with the ball, finishing two minute drives at the end of games. We've had a few of those doing a good job in some four minute drives that we've had, you know, not giving the ball back or bleeding time to kick field goals at the end of win, you know, those things matter. And, you know, in this league, where there's such competitive balance, you know, if you can do those little things right, situationally, it leads to those wins. And I think for the most part, in those one-score games, we've done a nice job. And again, Seth will run again, help send him out, and he basically, he just kills it like, for you as a quarterback, what does that do for you and that, you know, y'all been able to run the ball so successful for the past game? Yeah, I think, you know, it does. It keeps the defense aligned out of rhythm. And, you know, when they don't have the chance to just pin their ears back and know it's gonna be drop back pass, it makes it, you know, more difficult for them when they've got to defend both. They can't just pin their ears back and go because they've got runs, you know, run fits and gaps they have to protect. And that makes a big difference. You know, this league is about slowing down those guys on the other side of the ball and finding ways to do that. And running the football has certainly helped with that. It's very significant, you know, for us as a team, they're all gonna be this way, you know, moving forward if we handle our business. And so we understand, you know, the position we're in, but we also know, you know, you can't control the next three games. It's really just about taking care of business this week, extending our opportunity to be relevant. And, you know, I'm excited about that. It's fun to be this time of the year, to be in games that matter and games that have consequences. And, you know, I'm excited for that opportunity. Yeah, I think, you know, I think you don't have to do anything crazy. You just have to do what you're being asked to do really well and do it over and over and over and understand that, you know, play one of the game is just as significant as SNAP, you know, 65. They all are important. And, you know, for young players, the more you can develop that mindset every week, the better off we're gonna be. So players, Arthur, and you and Russ and a bunch of guys have talked about sticking with the plan as opposed to trying to fix something or deviating from what you want to do. How much of that is Arthur kind of preaching that to just stay in the course and trust that things are going to get better and not panicking with the example, right? Yeah, I think, you know, he's very good at that, you know, staying in the course and continuing to work the things we started working on when we got together in April, you know, and starting to see, takes time, but starting to see some of those things, you know, improve and get better. And it's a, you know, it's, things don't happen overnight, you know, as much as you would like them to, and I think it takes time to, you know, continue to build and get better. And I give credit to Arthur for kind of, you know, keeping that mindset of growth and improvement and being better this time of the year than we were at the beginning. And I also give credit to the players. It's not always easy when things aren't going well to stay the course, to believe in, you know, in the process that we have. And, you know, I'm proud of the guys for doing that. Has it ever felt like that from your perspective? I mean, do you feel like you've gone through that cycle three or four times, or do you just not even blink that way? Each year is different, you know, each offense I've been a part of is different. You know, you're, a lot of, a lot of how you play is the guys that you have and featuring the players that are in the building. And, you know, with the way that you're built, you try and feature and get the ball in those players' hands. And so at different times of my career, it's been really heavy run emphasis. I think I've early in my career with Mike Turner. You know, it was very much based on the run. And then there were years kind of in the middle where, you know, where we had Roddy, where we had Julio, where we had Tony Gonzalez, Harry Douglas, and it might have been a little bit more pass-oriented. I think it comes down to the guys that you have and coaches finding the ways to give you the best opportunity to win weekend and week out. You know, but the one thing that has stayed the same my entire time in the league is that the game, you know, is really the wins and losses are dictated up front on both sides of the ball. You know, and that part has been the same since, you know, before I've been around. You know, it's been that way forever. The guys up front are so important. So offense, from your perspective, and less of a reaction to what you're seeing from defenses and more about just whoever's in your building? Yeah, I think it's the balance of both, you know, who you're going against. But I think more often than not, you have to play with the guys that you have and you have to, you know, think players and, you know, that kind of stuff over plays sometimes in situations. You want, you know, you want your guys touching the ball and having the ball in space with the ability to make plays. And I think every team's different. You know, I really do. And so I think that, for me personally, I think that's more how I view it. How do you manage, but last week you talked about when you got the run again going, it helps a balance of offense and it helps you out. How do you manage having that balance of offense versus if you have to throw it, you know, some other time? Yeah, I think, you know, I think one of the beauties of experience is that kind of going back to Josh's question is that I've kind of, I've done it, you know, I've done it where you've had to throw it 55 times and, you know, at the end of the day, you gotta find a way to win. And so if it's not working and that's the direction we have to go in order to win, I'm comfortable doing that. No question about it. And if it is about running the ball and being physical and making it that kind of game, I'm comfortable in that role too. Nothing really. I mean, he texted me last night, they were watching, he was watching film of our defense and I guess there was a clip of Trevor Lawrence through and I tried to catch one on the sideline and it was coming in a little hotter than I thought. Dropped it. And he was like, that was terrible. That's really the only correspondence I had with him. I texted him back this morning, I was like, you're right, you're right. Really, you know, it's not, at least my relationship with him is not that way. You know, it's, we keep in touch. And, but you know, I think we both know what we have to do this week. And there's, at least on my end, and I know from his end too, I mean, there's a lot of respect that goes both ways. Matt, they've been able to put force on the board past couple of games. How did they, what did they do for you as a leader in the team at Fort Bay? How did they do for you? It's awesome, you know, it's great. When your defense is creating turnover, scoring, I like to have the last couple of weeks. I mean, it's unaccounted for, you know, points from the offensive side of the ball, where, you know, seven more points that, you know, we didn't have to do anything to put up and they've done a great job. I think it's a group that's gotten better as the year's gone on too. And we talk all the time about playing together and everybody doing their job because it helps somebody else's responsibilities and playing as a unit. And I think you're seeing that come to life with some of the turnovers. They're really doing a good job of staying in scheme and playing well. He's obviously an experienced job and, you know, super old man, coordinated and everything. Like, did you see that coming? Like him coming in, being able to, you know, come in and implementing the new defense and then just kind of gradually progress throughout the year to what they actually put up on the kind of points on board. Yeah, I think, you know, I played against him and so I know how tough they were to go against and just his reputation as a coach of creating really good defensive units and guys that play hard, you know, so I always had a lot of respect from afar, not knowing Dean well, of him as a coach. And I think when you're around him day to day and you see how he works with the guys, interacts with the guys, you know, I'm not surprised. You know, I think he's worked really hard and he's coached these guys really well to get them playing at a high level. Basically, what was your hype video like? Man, it was a different time back then. There weren't hype videos. It was, I think it was in February back, at least when I did it. We were in the gym, in the gym at my high school and so the way we did it was all the kids that were signing letters of intent and kind of signed together at Penn Charter. It was a fun day, but yeah, there were no hats, no, it was just, it was different. It was just a different time. Doesn't matter. No, I was really, I was between Iowa and Boston College and Kirk Farrance was still there. He was kind of a younger coach at the time when they were recruiting me, but he was maybe second or third year there as a coach and I went out and visited it with my dad and loved it, but it fell second to BC so I'm happy with how things worked out. All right, thank you. Thank you.