 Thank you everybody so much for joining us for this morning and afternoon of sessions with some amazing speakers in the morning and then some breakouts in the afternoon, but I'll get into the structure in a second, first maybe just a little bit of housekeeping. You can, all of this is being recorded and live streamed on YouTube, so feel free to have cameras on or off, whatever you prefer, and try and stay muted when you're not talking, which it looks like most people have done, we're all very well behaved here, this is fantastic. We also have a live transcript available, you can click the show captions button in your Zoom window. If you're on an iOS or an Android device, it'll be under the more menu, more menu. 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My society is a Code4All member, and we're currently in the middle of Code4All's 2022 summit, and there are all sorts of interesting talks that have already happened and have been shared on Code4All's YouTube channel and some more that are going to be happening throughout today and tomorrow, so visit I think Code4All.org to see the full schedule and what's happening later and what you might have missed earlier this week that you can catch up on all sorts of things, not only from climate but also transparency and democracy topics from all over the world. So thank you very much to everybody as well who's joining us via the Code4All network and coming along to this event, it's great to have you here. As for getting the word out, feel free to share whatever you like from this event on social media, we're at my society on Twitter in particular and we'll retweet anything that we see popping up, and if you've got any questions or comments for the Q&A section after all of our speakers will present what they've got to say for about 10 minutes each, and then after that we've got a fair amount of time for questions, so pop those in the chat and my lovely colleagues will make sure that we try and get through as many of those questions as possible in the Q&A before lunch. I think that's probably everything, a quick introduction to what this event is actually about, now you're here. My society's climate program is all about supporting a local response to the climate emergency and we think to make real progress here, we need to bring together citizens and local authorities or councils and community groups and technologists and researchers and journalists and all sorts of people active in this space with different interests and different ideas as to how to drive wider participation and better climate solutions, and today as part of this event we're going to hear from innovators and local council representatives in the UK and beyond, and you'll learn about new technologies and methods that are helping this transition to carbon zero at the local level, and maybe you might also find a few projects to trial in your council area, because as we mentioned in some of the comms before this event we've got a couple of £5,000 grants that we're hoping to give out to groups including a local council who want to try something out, an experiment. My society's climate program is fairly experimental ourselves and we'd like to encourage that with £5,000 which possibly isn't a massive amount of money but might be enough for you to try something that you wouldn't normally be able to get off the ground, so keep an eye out for the things our speakers are going to be sharing over the next hour or so and for discussions later on in the breakouts and maybe there might be something there that you or an organisation you know or someone else in one of the groups might want to work on with you with those £5,000 grants and all of this is the beginning of a process so we're going to be having some catch-ups later on in October for people who are interested in taking those grants forward and finding out how my society and our partners could help support that through technology or research or data or whatever expertise we can lend to give them a helping hand. And the structure for today as I mentioned is that we're starting off with some inspiration from our inspirational speakers who are joining us from across the world, more about who they are in a second, then we're going to be going into a Q&A for about half an hour so as I say pop your questions in the chat if you've got any as those talks are going on. Then we're going to have a nice long lunch break, we are fans of a long lunch break at my society, get outside if the weather's good enough, I saw there was lots of chat about drizzle and not very nice weather so maybe that might not work but after lunch about two o'clock we'll be starting off in a different zoom room I think, Rachel confirm that I think it is and we'll be having a couple of breakout sessions so there's going to be four breakouts and you can choose a total of two of those because there's two happening at a time so one will be on adaptation mostly and one on engagement and then later on in the afternoon one on sort of spatial planning and like community planning and then one on equity, diversity and inclusion or climate justice and we're going to have a short break between those as well so you can stretch your legs and get refreshments between the two breakouts and then we'll wrap up at a hopefully wrapping up for four o'clock is the plan UK time. Yes there's a different link in your emails thank you Rachel for the second half we will help you out with all of that before we break for lunch. I think that's probably everything and we're running slightly ahead of schedule but I think that's probably a good thing because it will give us more time for questions after so maybe we should kick off I'll just explain who our speakers are and this is the order they'll be speaking in. First off we've got Annie Pickering who's co-director at Climate Emergency UK who are one of our partners at my society and she'll be discussing their scorecards project and how councils can improve their score. After Annie we're going to have Ariane Crampton head of Wiltshire Council's climate program and we'll be discussing how the council engage with rural communities in particular as part of the equity diversity and inclusion strand of their climate action plan. We've got Klaus Wilhelmsen from he's an environmental planner at Copenhagen City Council's climate division and he'll be sharing insights from the implementation of their plan which includes some really cool stuff about spatial planning. We've got Orneldo and I'm going to mispronounce your last name I should have checked this in the green room Orneldo Georgi. Georgi, it's fine. Thank you very much. A data journalist at the European Data Journalism Network and he'll be looking at local climate data across Europe and Casper Spahn policy developer at Waternet which is Amsterdam's water company and he'll be discussing how the Resilio project there is adapting the city's roofs for a changing climate amongst other things so each of those will have about 10 minutes each with a good opportunity for questions after so questions in the in the chat and I think that's probably everything we need to cover before we hand over to Annie. I will get your slides up Annie. Cool, here we go. So yeah as Serino said I'm one of the co-directors at Climate Emergency UK and in the UK last year that we published in January we measured and assessed all UK council climate action plans and gave them a score on how good we thought they were based on various different metrics and then next year we're in the process of working at how to measure actual council climate action and doing a similar scorecard process. So I'm going to really quickly explain how we did council climate plan scorecards, some of the things we learned and then it'll let you a little bit know about our thinking so far for the action scorecards and I think it's worth saying this is like the first time that this has happened in the UK no one else is measuring council climate action at the moment and it is definitely something that could be replicated in other countries or in other sectors so I kind of want you to bear that in mind as a kind of yeah frame to be looking at this work through so I think if you go to the next slide for me so quickly yeah who are we? Climate Emergency UK was founded back in 2018-2019 by Kevin and we started simply by just collecting the climate emergency decorations for councils because we didn't want them to like have to be reinvented the way each time and then we realised it's also useful to like know if they've got an actual council climate action plan and what that is. Then we worked to work out okay it's all very well and good to have a climate action plan for that what is a good one you know is it a two-page document is it 50 pages like what is the content and you know the quality of it is really important and then we worked with my society to create a snapcape climate action plan explore a database where we were logging councils climate action plans and additional information and then that developed into like okay we want to measure actually how good these plans are and in future years the actual action so we've yeah moved on quite a bit a few years ago. Next slide so yeah really quickly what are these score cuts um so I think it will say it on the next slide so I've kind of covered it briefly um but we realised especially around 2019-2020 like pre-pandemic there was a massive wave of council climate action councils would declare and climate emergencies especially in the UK it was like becoming a thing the council were taking a little bit more seriously there was also the climate change committee's local authority and sixth carbon budget report nice and catchy which stated that local authorities have the influence and power to influence up to 30% of local emissions within an area carbon emissions so whilst there is a lot that national government could be doing it's often slow and hard to get change from there so we wanted to focus on where we can make change happen at a council level and I'm sure especially if you're from councils you know that there are some really good examples of some councils doing really good things in some areas but it's hard to know what's happening across the whole of the UK or indeed like the wider world so we wanted a way to be benchmarking and assessing that work and sharing that knowledge so that both campaigners and councillors could learn from each other and improve so using the checklist that we previously created with Ashton and other organisations that was like what we think should be in a good climate action plan we created a set of 29 questions to measure councils against to say like this is what should be a good climate action plan so it was about both highlighting the work that councils had done and showing you where they are succeeding but also showing where councils are not doing what perhaps their neighbouring councillors doing or what other councillors are doing and kind of showing that picture to understand you know where improvements could be made I think to the next slide yeah so this is what we created that's the website there's way more details in that but that's just to give you an idea of what it looks like and just to cover a little bit more about how we created it we did if you yeah we'll go with that James I don't ride where you say we did a three stage marking process so we had a team of trained volunteers to mark all councils climate action plans so we're only looking at publicly available information and that's something we will primarily continue next year because the other kind of part of this project is yeah we want councils and campaigners to do more for climate action want to support to do that we will also think it's really important that this information is transparent and clear for residents and citizens to know about their councils because they're much more likely to active that information is clear and accessible and understandable so we use volunteers to just to do the first mark based on publicly available information councils then got a right of reply so they got just to see their initial mark because we might have like missed out a document or not read something properly or in a rare cases councils responded saying oh you've given us a point but actually we haven't done that so it was a way to kind of be a sense check our work and then there was a third stage mark with another much smaller team to compare the first mark and the right of reply give it a final score and go to the next slide with this I guess the only thing I haven't covered is once we publish the scorecards like this is the first time there's been that UK wide picture of where council climate action plan council climate action is so it's a really useful tool to be used to push for further support and resources and legislation at a national level because you're able to see the variety and also there was yeah a few interesting things around you know what's happening in Scotland does the picture look different maybe it does because the devolved government and what different powers are doing different things and so we published in January this year yeah and these are some of the headline things that we found I'm not going to go into details and you can look at our scorecard and use the filter buttons to kind of work out your own analysis but the headlines were the yeah highest score in councils were across the political divide so that's an example of Somerset Western Taughton Manchester and Soler Hill both lived and laid back conservative and kind of spread around the country as well and within district councils so we had five lists representing councils with different powers and within the district council list five four of the top five were ones that were coalitional minority run councils bearing in mind this is from January 2022 and I know there has been local elections in some places and it may have changed um but I think there's like interesting comments around there about you know if you're more collaborative does that need to bear climate action perhaps and and kind of a third point that encourages that as well is there were some county councils they're kind of like bigger councils that are above local district councils who had done a joint plan with the other district councils and where that happened those counties and districts had scored higher so we go to the next slide this leads me life me on to like how can you improve your council climate action plan and so from marking 409 local authority council climate action plans we found out quite a lot and these are kind of like the top 10 I don't want to say easy but like uh universal things that can be done to improve council climate action plans there are nine boxes there's ten in the title that's because uh two of the actions I've merged on work together um so I guess the example I just showed four of our county councils working together that showed to like create better council climate action plans and we hope better council climate action and whilst it's important to work with local councils you know as neighbours there's also businesses schools and other institutions in the area that we think it's really important that councils can work with especially given they have limited resources and the one that I think a lot of councils are picking up on and rewriting their plans around is making sure actions have smart targets so like the climate crisis is huge and you know councils need to take serious action but equally if they say we're going to decarbonise by 2030 and just have some kind of waffly lines about we're going to decarbonise transport and we're going to improve recycling it's really hard to know like how you're going to do that is there achievable and who's going to do it so we're really encouraging councils to have smart targets to be specific about what actually do they have influence and control over how are they going to do it with what resources and how are they going to measure that success and actually a realistic target is way better than kind of nice sounding words that don't necessarily need to the action and a few other ones I'll pick up on is we really want councils to be sure they're working out who is the most vulnerable in the area kind of from the impacts of climate change and how they're prioritising them in their work it's also about embedding climate action across the council so not just you know in the sustainability department or in the waste management system so that's where we think councils receive councillors and staff receiving carbon literacy training is really important having named staff members to oversee the plan and also linking your council climate action to your other plans so what is it saying in your corporate plan on your local plan around climate action because what happens in those plans can also have an influence and you don't want them to be conflicted and all of this is on our website and there's a much more detailed document about how to improve your council climate action plans so do take a look at that if you're interested moving on to the next slide so I think I've seen bits in the chat box about next year's scorecards and I haven't been able to respond but hopefully this might cover it a little bit so like I said as much as plans are important because we kind of think you know if you haven't planned out your work there's no commitment to do it what we really want to be looking at is council climate action so we spent this year working out what those metrics could be and the aim of the work is similar to last year in that we want to we want these results to be used by councils and campaigners to improve and change their climate action in order to reach net zero as far as possible within the current constraints like we recognise that council's power is limited to some extent but what our plan scorecards and our research so far for the action scorecard has shown is there is a lot that councils can be doing in the current constraints and some are kind of reaching that threshold and doing all of it and some are and there might be like two or three quite decent actions that councils could be doing to make a real difference to emissions and so we want to see emissions being reduced through the work of councils and we also recognise that often campaigners play a key role in encouraging those councils to take action but they're in a similar situation with councillors it's hard to know like the picture and what actually to be asking councils to do because especially in the UK local government is confusing and complex and different everywhere so this is trying to provide that overall picture and that understanding for how they can campaign for that change we move on to the next slide so this is just a little teaser of some of the things we may well be scoring in the scorecards and we're going to do the same three stage marking process as I covered before and as far as possible we're going to be using publicly available information although we will also be using a very small number of feeding information requests and we're also going to be using some national data so like recycling is yeah national data so just I'm not going to read through all of these because the questions aren't here but this is just an idea of the main sections we want to be looking at such as builders and heatings both of council owned buildings and in the wider area governance in terms of how the council is running in order to embed climate action and transport both within their control and the wider area the next slide which I think is the last slide yeah so I'm wrapping up there and obviously yeah there'll be questions later but do sign up to our newsletter to find out more especially if you're in the UK you can also donate we're incredibly school charity and if there's people here interested in getting involved we're actually doing some trial volunteer marking next month on our draft scorecards so if you're interested in helping out with that I'll pop the link in the chat and so I think I'll wrap up there and yeah it looks like there might be some interesting questions later on yeah definitely a couple of questions in the chat for you later on that's brilliant amazing and well done for actually managing to cram all of that into into just over 10 minutes there's a lot of work there to cover and and it's a really good example of using whatever data is available and crowdsourcing and collecting lots of that data to try and give everybody a better idea of what action's actually planned and coming up what action's actually going to has actually taken place which is really good thank you very much and we've got next up arian crampton from wiltshire county council I will just get your slides up arian bear with me one second there we go thank you off you go thank you thank you very much um so good morning everyone uh i'm arian prampton i'm the head of climate program at wiltshire council um so for those of you who don't know where wiltshire is it's a rural authority in the southwest of england and it's the home of stonehenge which is why we've got that lovely picture on the front cover of our climate strategy um and for those who know about the local government system in the uk it's a countywide unitary authority so it's no longer a county council um five councils merged into one back in 2009 next slide please so this is what i'm going to cover this morning i'm going to talk a little bit about our strategy development and how we engaged widely for that um and then i'm going to touch on a couple of examples of diversity and inclusion in delivery next slide please so starting with the development of our climate strategy um we this dates back to 2019 so like a lot of other councils we acknowledged a climate emergency in wiltshire back in 2019 and we committed to seek to make the whole of wiltshire carbon neutral by 2030 obviously a very challenging ambition and we also then later that year set a target to become carbon neutral as an organisation by 2030 and the climate team including myself was appointed then uh in June 2020 and the first thing we did was produce a discussion document setting out the key issues around the climate agenda for wiltshire so using all the data um that was available at that point and presenting it and presenting what we thought the key challenges were and where the council could take action and then we used the feedback from that targeted consultation to develop a draft climate strategy which we then consulted on widely next slide please um so our approach was to keep things really really simple because we wanted to encourage a really wide readership and um we recognise actually you can end up with alienating people if you have documents that are too long and too technical um so we use a lot of images a lot of infographics um and then committed to delivering some uh developing some delivery plans with the detail which is what we have since done um obviously as local authorities have influence over a third of emissions in their area we have focused on that but we also recognise that we need that public engagement and buy in from other partners to tackle the other two thirds so that is a really strong element of our strategy um and in terms of the five key principles in our strategy be inclusive there you can see is listed as the first one so it's really about ensuring that the transition to a low carbon climate resilient future is accessible to all sectors of society including our rural communities and businesses so next slide please in terms of how we engaged um we had the challenge of trying to consult on this document when covid was making face-to-face interactions uh quite difficult so um we focused uh with online online webinars as a main method of uh face of engagement um and interaction and an online survey but we recognise that there are many uh digitally excluded groups and so for those groups we provided face-to-face events in libraries we also went out to schools and ran some sessions in schools and also talked to disability groups face-to-face we did extensive communications through social media and through traditional press releases and then we um issued these posters that you can see on the right hand side so really hard hitting posters climate change affects us all as the key message there um and we sent those out to all our libraries our letter centres and then every single parish council received one to put on their notice board and we've got 250 parish councils in Wiltshire so that was a lot of people who got a poster um we then uh also uh delivered presentations at meetings with public and private sector partners to make sure that they were aware of our strategy and we produced an easy read summary of the draft document which is something I don't believe many other councils have done if any so if you're not familiar with the easy read format um next slide please this is what it looks like so it's basically picking out our key themes and then a very few simplified um pictures and descriptions of what we're going to do um and in particular the one thing you can do so for every theme within our strategy we had one thing you can do to again get that engagement from individuals reading the document about what how they can play their part and what they can do so um that easy read version was you know designed to be accessible to people who may not otherwise engage with such a technical document next slide please um so the engagement results were quite encouraging we had 181 people attending the webinars we had 300 replay views and we received over 100 written responses we launched a social media campaign at the same time as our climate strategy consultation with hashtag wilts can do this um and we themed some posts around the seven themes of our strategy and they were seen by over a million individuals um we had uh more than eight eight thousand eight hundred unique views on our online climate and strategy consultation content which is a lot more than um we normally get on council web pages it's kind of on a par with the number of web views we get for our very popular pages which are around bin collections uh and the kind of things that everybody wants to know about all the time um we in total we got more than a thousand survey responses which compares really really favorably with other consultation efforts by the council um and that includes the the majority of those who are online but we also have some uh paper surveys completed by schools um and we also generated more than a hundred questions through the webinars and published a q and a um to ensure complete transparency and make sure that everybody could access that information next slide please so um what what did the responses actually look like uh in terms of who completed the survey um we were concerned that we would only reach uh the usual people who engage with this kind of thing and that's why we really put a lot of effort into a wide reach and actually these results show that we did reach um more than uh the white middle class people in wiltshire um so you can see there the those who responded to the income bracket question there was a wide range from very low incomes to high incomes and then in terms of ethnicity we only have a very small black or minority ethnic population in wiltshire but um the respondents actually profile of the respondents actually matched the county profile you can see there in green is um the uh blue is the wiltshire population and green is the survey responses the label seems to have fallen off my slide so sorry about that um next slide please um and then we also looked at the age profile because we do have an older population here in wiltshire and they tend to be a lot more vocal so we had put a lot of effort into reaching people of working age and younger people through schools and you can see here again that blue shows the wiltshire population and green the survey responses um i mean there is a slight over representation as you can see in the older age brackets and under representation in the younger age brackets but if we hadn't done the sessions in schools for under 18s it would have been a lot more imbalanced so that was definitely worth doing next slide please and then the other thing we were really keen to do was uh get a response from people who were not already involved in a local environmental group um and you can see here that actually only a third of those responding were a member of a local environmental group so the majority of those responding were not already engaged and we're reaching people who are not already um you know talking to us about this agenda which is great and even of those who are members of local environmental groups a lot of them were wildlife trust members so again they're not people who would normally engage with the council on this um we promoted the survey through the wildlife trust and they supported us with that so it's not really surprising we got a lot of wildlife trust members responding responding but we were pleased with this um this balance of responses next slide please and then in terms of uh what people were telling us um they were actually telling us that they support our objectives uh which is great and there were some very clear messages about what people want the council to do more of and also an appetite for the council to do more to embed climate objectives across everything we do um the we were able to improve uh our strategy from and and get buy in from even the most critical groups as a result of this engagement process and so while some of the climate activist groups uh are very very critical of anything we do actually they were they they were really supportive of our strategy and welcomed it um when it was finally adopted which was brilliant um and we received an excellent rating in the climate emergency scorecards which Annie has just uh talked about so we got the fifth best score in the UK and the top score for a rural unitary authority and and a top score by a long way so we got 85 percent overall which was well above the 50 percent average of other unitaries um and we also received top marks for community engagement and communications which I'm guessing is why I've been invited to speak today um so moving on then to um the delivery side of things there's a couple of schemes that we're doing which are really focused on inclusion that I wanted to highlight um the first one is warm and safe wheelchair so this is a free advice line and home visits for people in fuel poverty it's been running for a number of years um and just in the first quarter of this year uh we supported 654 households with this service um it's uh managed by our public health team so it has really strong links into the NHS in particular and we get referrals from across the NHS but particularly after hospital discharges for example to make sure that people are not going back into a cold home after they leave hospital um and then uh we've also focused really strongly on supporting our council tenants and making sure that they uh haven't got energy bills that they can't afford so we're going to be retrofitting all 5 000 council homes in Wiltshire by 2030 spending 50 million pounds to get them all up to an EPCB rating um we started that work so we've done retrofit assessments for the first 800 properties and we we've retrofitted 90 homes to date um and there's a whole load of different measures that that we put in there to help our tenants and then we're also uh we've also got an ambitious um council home building program so we're building a thousand new zero carbon council homes and we've got the first 19 due to be completed by April 2023 and that's very exciting using modern methods of construction next slide please and then finally I just wanted to talk about engaging and empowering others to act which I think follows on really well from Annie's point about collaboration um so we have focused a lot on working with town and parish councils and two uh successful initiatives that we've done with them are a climate action planning day which we funded and we had over 30 parish councils represented at that at that session where they had a whole day to really understand what climate change means for them what action they can take how they can work with Wiltshire council how they can work together and that worked really well and then last week we did a webinar for them on electric vehicle charge points and the council has set up a grant scheme for town and parish councils who want to put in charge points in their local area um and so we had a session to explain to them what government grants are available how the council grant will help to top up that government grant um how they can access it um you know which supplies they can use we've opened up our contracts to our supplier to them if they want to piggyback on the council's contract so that again that was really well received we had more than 80 people registering to attend that webinar which was phenomenal and we've also got a public sector partners working group which is under our public service board where we share good practice and collaborate and help each other out and then we set up a new working group with other social landlords who operate in Wiltshire and because the council has 5 000 council homes but the majority of social housing in Wiltshire is operated by registered providers and so it's really important that we work together and we are leading the way with our large-scale retrofit program so we want to share that knowledge with the other social landlords um and we meet regularly to do that um we also work with our local environmental groups so they've set up webinars on different topics and invited the council along to present and to explain what we're doing so we do that um and then finally our newest initiative is a new climate and environment forum um that's brand new we've got our first formal meeting next week um and that's a new reference group which we've recruited from a cross section of Wiltshire residents there's about 30 people on the forum and we're looking really for a range of views on what we're doing in terms of our environmental initiatives and getting a sense of how they're received whether people know about them what more we need to do about communicating them etc so that's a very quick uh round up of the um what Wiltshire's doing and I'll be very happy to answer any questions later thank you amazing thank you very much Ariann some really nice practical examples of community engagement as well by a council really nice to see um I will quickly move us on uh to Klaus joining us from Copenhagen um thank you very much um bringing us an international perspective um go ahead uh and share your slides and take off thanks a lot obviously if I can do it in 10 minutes I have a lot of inspiration but please get back at me if you if you want to have some unfolding of some of them but uh yeah thanks for the invitation I can say that the the reason for why we're doing this is like you the climate emergency we need drastic emission cuts the longer we wait the more drastic it has to be so luckily we have been been doing this for a number of years in Copenhagen and I will give you some inspiration mainly around physical planning and focus on some cases in construction and civil works projects that I have been mostly engaged with um the context about Copenhagen is that we are around 650 000 inhabitants we have been growing 100 000 during the last 10 12 years I think and and and besides this we have been able to make some drastic emission cuts I would say um here you can see our soil deposit in the background where we receive a lot of soil clean and contaminated and this is a way to to expand the city actually to to receive 40 000 new inhabitants also while receiving then we also need to to get it done more emission fossil and or emission free than we are doing now the main strategic plan for this have been our climate plan that we we do in 2009 where we had the Cup 15 in Copenhagen also we have seven mayors in Copenhagen one mayor for each of the seven administrations and they all agreed to this climate plan to make us the CO2 neutral before 2025 we have now sort of admitted that we cannot reach this target because the state could not let us the money to to have a cap and cap challenge storage facility in our garage facility um so we will reach it maybe in 2026 2027 but we have reached 70 reduction compared to 1990 so that's a major step of the way I would say from the beginning we have said that okay this cannot happen without cooperation between business research citizens so they have been a substantial part of the of the transition we we work in road maps in Copenhagen and we are in the third and last road map from the moment where we have 47 initiatives across four pillars that you will see in a while where we try to reach the neutrality goal the four pillars you can see here they are in energy consumption production mobility and city administration which is sort of to Sweden in front of our own poster the things highlighted in yellow are some of the things that I'll be talking to you about namely buildings and machinery and vehicles in general since 1998 we have had what we call sustainability in construction and sewer works which is a list of demands that we set towards our own buildings and sewer works projects and also the ones that we support which are the three last that you can see below so by this way we are sort of making a long list of I think it's now 33 the demands that we set towards these targeted groups namely in terms of environmental sustainability so it's sort of life cycle analysis avoiding of hazardous substances environmental labelling goods sustainable produced woods material catalog of building sort of making sure that we can be reused a circular economy agenda the newest thing that came about in 2021 was to also have buildings labeled so buildings above 20 million danish corners around 3 million euros and and and buildings some are to be dg and b certified that's a german certification scheme that's has been made into danish and which is the most widespread and Denmark certification scheme so there we certify our own buildings to gold level and social housing up to silver level and besides this we are sort of we have we have some bubbling wobbling demands below the fixed sort of demands where we try to increase our focus on circular economy we own around 5% of the building as in the city so these are some of the buildings that we own and where we try to do some circular economy initiatives next steps is to focus a lot more on concrete and steel which are the two biggest emitters and to have material passports and and so we can sort of follow the materials around and also to make some some some places physical places where we can store surplus materials until we need for them again therefore avoiding to to buy new ones the initiative i'll talk about next is towards an unrolled mobile machinery where we are trying to to to get rid of the emissions from them we have a an emission budget of 430 000 tons per year we need to cut to zero and these number of mobile machineries are estimated to have up to 75 000 tons a year so it's a big jump that we can we can try to access by by by having an initiative on these machines so therefore or thereby we also reach the goal in our club plan to reduce the emissions machines to by 30 to 40 before 2025 but we also reach a number of all good goals namely to reduce noise reduction or to have noise reduction from these machines also and to to have more clean iron city and besides this this agenda also also really improves the conditions for workers and residential and bypasses you can see the benefits from these machines here you can see below the figure the one from fossil diesel where you have all the disadvantages we we sort of ask now for fossil and or emission free machinery and this is because we cannot have zero emission machinery in namely especially heavy machinery so we ask for sustainable produced biofuels and or emission free machinery but it's only only with the zero machinery zero emission machinery you can see all the benefits are so achieved one big disadvantage in Denmark is the tax structure that that makes biofuels very much more expensive than fossil diesel around 1.5 euros so I would say can lead up with the with the price and prices now now also some disadvantages from using emission free machinery besides what I have said that heavy machinery is hard to get emission free then it's also you need to look at how to get enough power in the right time so the logistics is also an important thing this is a private entrepreneur who's working for us and he has made this sort of mapping of the the noise and air pollution and indeed the left one you can see an emission free road being refurbished with the emission free machinery and the right with a diesel so you can see on the right end with a diesel machinery it's only the smoke break that has the the cut in emissions whereas as opposed to the other one we can see the smoke break is actually where the possible pollution comes because they were with emission free machinery so just to give the other perspective besides the CO2 cuts it's after this machinery we work with in three steps our fleet and then in construction sewage projects and then we try to also move the market by having a collaborative firm that we that we began in 2020 and to also engage in international projects in terms of our old fleet you cannot you cannot look at this detail more later but it has been very sort of easy to have the road machinery the the cars the small vans to to emission free but we have a way to go in terms of non-rope we are between zero to 25 percent in in in our change to electricity or hydrogen we have very much made the case by studying Oslo going to Oslo having Oslo to come down to us they have been running with this agenda since 2015 and not a mandatory demand that they only give points to to to projects that are that are made emission free by following the example of Oslo we were able to ask the politicians for money and we were able to get money in our budget 2020 so three budgets ago we have had money to to to change to simple vehicles in our own fleet and to make pilots in construction and sewage projects and here you can see the the the the translation from the budget agreement also in 2022 where we sort of doubled the amount of money we had from the politicians to to work on this agenda actually the in several work projects the I would say the experiences with the market to respond to these demands it is so that we ask for an optional price to have our projects done with fossil and emission free machinery besides the conventional solution and then we can say yes or no to this solution but the the response was so good that we have had it as a mandatory demand from first of January 2021 this has made it possible to have a lot more projects done this way than we otherwise would have also because the price attack on this has been not so so high actually I'll take that to that um so we ask for a for emission free machinery if if the machines are below two and a half tons in weight and we also have the the the best of works that we know these machines can do and so this is this is dynamic procurement demands that needs to be moved over time to be ambitious but not too ambitious so that the market could follow um in in construction Copenhagen it's called where they do the schools so institutions big renovations they work in a longer time frame with this thing and therefore they could do more collaborative work with with that partner and they have these five focus points where I'm not going to publish the results of one of them from our zero works projects it's it's only from from zero to three percent of the construction sum that the extra price tag is on this and I should say that the politicians in Copenhagen and Oslo Jamsson have agreed to a a increase in price from eight to twelve percent to have the whole sustainability construction and sewage package so there is a willingness to pay in in in the in six thousands to do these kinds of works um to to reach our climate goals to also have innovation in the market towards what's more green solutions so that of course helps to have politicians that are in favor of trying to meet the climate emergency um yeah I'll go besides this and maybe you know so skip this one you can really yourself get back to me if you have questions but our next steps is to focus a lot more on electricity to to to have the projects are only by using by the use of electricity um what we do in terms of in terms of market our number three is to to be a part of the big bias network a european initiative run by eclay and we also participate as an innovative city in the c40 cooperation even though we're not a big city we are sort of an innovative city and therefore we can can join the purposes to of course have knowledge sharing and make joint statements of demand to have more people or more more bias asking for this so we can move them by um and and we also have our own collaborative collaborative firm as I have mentioned before where we have the whole story value chain represented where we four times a year meet virtual or real person to to discuss matters of interest to this agenda um this is just a slide made to to sort of make sort of towards the state and market level some good good points as to what could move this a lot further than we can ourselves as a university policy and this slide I think is this one yes this is from the from the u. n saying that we are sort of a single people who are into what's the destruction of the world and we're trying to do our part of the work not to do so in in the city of goblin haggen but I think it's very much more important to go a lot faster than we do now in a lot of areas and I have found inspiration from the council of wells I think it was that last year had this climate emergency sign up and then they said hey we stop all infrastructure projects and then we screened by a nature nice to principle and I think this can be the the actual the actual consequence to do so if we don't have the emission free emissions ready in time so big thing in Denmark is coming up this absolute sustainability is to focus on that science-based targets approach and to to to focus on that and we have a big sort of agenda on that on the 3rd November in Denmark we have the annual building green event in Denmark so come in come here if you're interested and then I will finish up with this quick job in what we do in in yeah you know our city amazing thank you very much class thank you and well done again lots of slides to pack into to a few few minutes and I really like that quote at the end which of there's nothing more dangerous than the illusion of progress which is definitely something to live by I think it sort of reflects something one of one of the strands of work my society's been doing is is sort of around that the importance of analysis and transparency of what local authorities are doing and it's actually a nice segue into with a with a sort of data journalism perspective our fourth speaker on Aldo take it away thank you Serino and thank you everyone for participating and for organizing this terrific event so I will start sharing my screen without further ado okay I hope it's visible now and well I am another judge and I work as a data journalist in data analyst for the european data journalist network and the conservatory balcony Calcos of Transaropa which is a newsroom located in Italy so today I will mostly speak about a project that we did a couple of years ago but that it's still proving how can I say worth sharing and interesting when it comes to innovation tech and environmental data especially uh so what we tried to do uh was to use open data especially shared by the european union and the Copernicus project of the european union to assess the impact of global warming in uh let's say at the local level especially at the level of municipalities or cities so we managed to use this data to assess how climate change and global warming hit differently around 100 000 european cities across 35 countries with data availability that span from 1959 to 2018 the reason why the main rationale why we decided to do something like these stems from a question which is how can let's say a normal a normal person an average person who maybe doesn't know much about climate change and global warming identify with this phenomenon because of course global phenomenon affect everyone around the world but by definition but it's difficult to empathize with the local repercussion that can happen uh around the places where we live our everyday life let's say and so we decided to use these data set like in this image you can see an exemplification of this data set that consists it's of course abstract uh being a climatological data set because it's a very small uh cells in a grid with every cell uh having an area of around 30 square kilometers and for every cell we had per day four measurements of the temperature across the almost seven years of data so we could do something really interesting which was assessing the differences in how climate change hit different cities at the city level so also let's say in the same country within the same region in the country there might be differences according to the cities and what we wanted to do was to give the opportunity to everyone to look at their own place or the places they knew they know to see how the impact of climate change has impacted we created a dashboard and this is a screen but soon I will actually enter the dashboard so that I can give a bit of the experience and every dot in this dashboard is a city and of course given that our aim was going very wide at the european level as you may see already from these there are differences country by country in the density of these dots of the cities because for instance France has several tens of thousands of municipalities while the united kingdom far less like you can see how sparse the dots are these of course depends again by the data that are shared by the european union only in general by this european dataset and on how local administrative units are intended country by country and of course every country has different ways to let's say rationalize its local governments and so we had to rely on these and what we wanted to do was to give as I said the opportunity to the people who decided to look at this dashboard to see city by city what the impact had been by looking for a city and zooming to in order to have this information so I will actually open this maybe it is better like this for instance let's say as I had in the in the slide let's say about Florence let's say we want to zoom in the city and we have this car that is open with how the difference has been calculated and we calculated the difference between the last decade of available data and the first decade of available data to assess what the change has been in those periods of time and per adversity we have the possibility to actually look at how the change has been over time taking the first 10 years of data as a baseline and to see how let's say the temperature has been behaving in between 1971 and 2018 the last year of available data and we can of course see this Florence but it's very similar for most of the city that especially from the 90s the temperature started raising quite a lot and apparently this is something that it's not going to change anytime soon unfortunately and what we also wanted to do was to give a possibility to compare different cities and different regions and areas of the world of Europe and within the countries of the regions of course Florence is in Tuscany and Tuscany has different sub-regional administrative units besides Florence so we could give all of these information because of the richness of the data that we managed to find and to analyze and of course going from the region and to the nation to see what has been for instance the differences among these places and another thing just since we are here to check on the United Kingdom for instance we can see for instance here in London we have like the city of London which apparently have a temperature change of almost three degrees from the last decade of available data and the first decade of available data and these let's say this work had the main intention to do something that of course it's quite distance from crafting a policy or having an actual change in let's say in the behavior of the people in a certain municipality or in a certain area it is mostly intended to create a critical mass around the issue so that we can reach the highest number of people to tell them hey we know that global warming seems very abstract and very complex as a topic to discuss but there are differences that in your everyday life given that climate change is happening and has already started happening quite few since the last decades which is for instance that a difference of a very few degrees means that nowadays the behavior that you actually have in a given season is different from it was a few seconds ago because it may make the difference of I don't know like having or not to take a jacket to go out because it's warmer and you don't have to or more specifically for instance the snowfall like in certain area especially in Italy I'm from Italy in the up 9 region there's no snow anymore and this creates of course a lot of below negative spillovers which is damaged to the local economy because you don't have that index anymore and we managed to create this dashboard mainly as a service for other journalists and for other non-governmental organizations and through the last couple of years actually we had quite a few very interesting outcomes to start with more than 100 local news stories on the changing climate have been written so that we could enable local journalists especially which were our main target to talk about the impact of climate change in the local areas these has been really interesting as a phenomenon because it is as I said in the beginning very difficult to find journalistically speaking a frame that is interesting for local newspapers because they might have to rely to global data but these then how can I say it's something that it's more interesting for maybe national media and so the local media is often not talking much about that unless some emergency happened we could find a high level of identification from the readers which is that looking at the comments at these stories or in general the comments that the journalists shared back to us from the readers we had a lot of people actually realizing what it might or might not mean for them in their everyday life in the in the city where they live their everyday life what climate change meant these data and this dashboard has also been has also been used as one of the many means to support the stop global warming european citizen initiative which meant to collect and add signatures around the european union in order to put a policy proposal on the table of members of european parliaments to let's say adopt a carbon tax legislation and it also shown us and let's say the community of data journalists in europe some potential for future works on the local image of climate change and this global phenomenon but of course in order to do that we will need more data especially for local governments in order to have these fine grained analysis and let's say have a more impact and have more impact at the local level and unfortunately these data at the local level is often lacking or patchy where when he's there these is a multifaceted problem of course because every country has its own way of dealing with local data on how they are collected how they are shared if they are shared so it's really difficult to have let's say a pan european perspective of these on these so mostly it's going to be something about national data but again within the same nation different municipalities or administrative units again might have differences on how the data is collected how is shared if it's shared and so besides as so besides using this kind of dashboard to talk about climate change and the local impact of climate change we also saw that working like this was very local data of global phenomenon that can also be used in order to let's say push local government to share more data so that the journalism community can write stories about that and see the society organization can create events and eventually this critical mass through the time that hopefully sooner rather than later might be able to actually achieve some change and have the means to actually achieve these kind of changes and thank you very much amazing thank you um uh I especially love a live demo as a product person seeing a live demo and it all worked it's great but as Ari Anne said in the chat it's so impactful seeing local data at that kind of global scale it's really encouraging and also frightening at the same time which I think is a good mix um finally there I think there was a couple of questions in in the chat as well but we'll keep those for for the end um on to our third and final international speaker um Casper with some inspiration perhaps from how Amsterdam is facing climate challenges with Waternet and the Resilio project uh yes thank you um I will um share the screen it's visible and tell you our story about the Resilio project um and your European funded blue-green roof project um but first I will step into the context in what in which it was developed because that will give more um insight in the results uh I'm Casper Spaan and work at Waternet the public water organization for the municipality of Amsterdam and the local regional water authority Amsgoen Vecht working in the domain of climate adaptation for quite a while um this story can't be told without mentioning the Amsterdam rainproof program that started in 2014 and it's a network-based program focused on climate adaptation especially extreme rainfall but broadening since then with the implicit message that we as a government come to it alone working the climate adaptation challenge and we have to involve all stakeholders to get action done we focus on all those part yeah stakeholders in the city from knowledge institutes to garden centers of course our citizens and create awareness involvement work on perspective and get into action we've created a so-called boundary object which means that the ownership of this platform and network is a shared responsibility and it's not publicly owned it's not the water organization that tells you what to do but it invites you to get involved and that's a different point of view to take action on um concerning our blue-green roof ambition started a year earlier parallel to the rainproof project and it was well a sort of pop-up project started with the dark doctors the roof doctors they want to make the city healthy is their catchphrase and they always ask me when is a green roof blue difficult question and we search for answers and eventually they came up with a crate-based water storage system underneath a classic green roof layer and in the end we added a valve system to create control and that took us a long way so we went whole roof ward with that blue-green roof concept and we learned that quantified water storage on private property is a possibility and it can be dynamically managed and that creates a whole new field of water management micro water management and that learned us so much on the new perspectives we had to find on on on governance issues on how to finance this how to get people involved to create the relevant market but in fact it was just combining uh classic techniques there's no rocket science behind it but create a new system that catches water and stores it on the roof um we in the rainproof philosophy we worked with a lot of other partners and started to create a new community uh roof involved partners to work on that blue challenge and that eventually led to a lot of spin-off policy instruments new insights the relationship between heat stress cities and water evaporation as a cooling element the relation with biodiversity a biodiversity needs water to get through the droughts we are facing so that's so many connections that need to be nourished and controlled and that's why we call it an ecosystem approach there isn't a direct road to create this new solution now it was a multitude of relationships we had to uh work with uh with the challenges uh had um and that learned us so much and that created the background for the resilio project also on the national scale uh as Amsterdam we were one of the lead partners in the creation of the green deal green roofs uh the framework development for the multifunctional roof space and the follow-up in the national roof plan and that states that we should uh embrace the roof landscape that's a bit barren still nowadays but uh offers us so much opportunity to find energy solutions social solutions the red color uh biodiversity ambitions the green and of course i'm a blue guy uh water management uh possibilities and in the connection we find the solutions because as stated many times uh every roof needs its own solution there's a lot of maids to measure work uh and one of the outcomes of resilio that's starting here it's an ugly acronym but uh it works for Europe uh we started in 2018 in fact with uh another failed uh horizon 2020 proposition uh and recycled it uh and worked it up to uh a ui a uh urban innovative action program um a different program than horizon 2020 it focuses on a single city it has a fat uh coverage uh of funds 80 percent of the means were brought in from Europe uh and we combine it with the social housing corporations because we already learned that um creating um multifunctional roofs a new build uh real estate is relative easy we have to know a lot of instruments already ready for that uh but the existing city uh existing real estate is much more difficult and that's where the social housing came into focus because they have in Amsterdam uh almost 50 percent of the real estate uh in the city the whole consortium uh was made up with uh 10 partners in the beginning one stepped out uh waternet and Amsterdam were managing uh the program we had um uh the social housing three partners uh in Amsterdam from the five main uh social housing corporation Amsterdam we had of course researchers from the universities the free university and uh uh Hoogescho and of course the market uh partners who helped in the innovation and the realization of the blue green roofs this is the infographic that well brings it to life um and shows that um we wanted also to engage all the uh renters and the citizen uh citizens about why we are doing this and how they could participate and tell the storyline about climate adaptation and the necessity this is an overview of uh part of the city where all the roofs were developed in green uh the social housing corporations in orange the uh other additional grand scheme focused on more uh private ownership uh or combined private ownership uh who could also apply for blue green roofs and two uh innovation lab roofs where we were showcasing the possibilities and learning with the uh knowledge institutes uh about their uh possibilities this is from a water management perspective the the big uh learning and or the big innovation we brought to this uh concept and that's the decision support system uh that can micro manage each uh water storing objects roofs um on an object-based um uh way where we use the macro level data uh for instance the weather forecast of course uh location specifics water management data and combine that with micro level information about storage capability other water functions combined to the roof system more information about the demand of the owners on how they want to use the water and in that way we can create a squeezable sponge over the city that can be uh can uh retain water when extreme rainfall is expected and falling and can store water when droughts are uh expected and uh uh water water for the greening of the roof system well since then we uh disseminated uh one of the tasks from Europe to to tell that story that the learnings that we did uh and bring it further to Europe that was why we were also um uh well uh said easily yes to your invitation to to share our story over here because we feel that the the lessons we learned and the the solutions that blue green roof systems with an active uh micro water management capability can bring to urban areas is a shared one some of the lessons learned because it was a project focused on scaling up and we are still working on it uh further but procurement and and well I'm not going to read them all but it's it's it's still a developing market and it makes it sometimes difficult uh to find also the right business case business casing it's also a bit uh awkward instrument uh for old guys who want to challenge innovation my opinion um but the we see the opportunity uh with these blue green roof systems all around our city and in cities uh around europe with uh the note not everything is possible on any roof but on every roof there are possibilities how are we proceeding in Amsterdam well we're now we're working on an integral roof plan in Amsterdam to to work on on how to uh work in that complex domain of roofs because as a public organization you can create a policy but you do not own the roof so you have a bit complex uh relation towards those systems but they are essential to tackle public challenges in the city one of the functions we're looking for is a roof director who can bring partners together and manage uh roof expectations and ambitions um in the city we see that a new governance challenge is coming up the micro water management where we as a public partner want to have influence control uh on the private domain and that's a challenge so to say um and uh we're still very confident that it's a growing field we see it being adapted uh by other countries as well a lot of interest around the world and also uh growing awareness in in other countries south with asia and north america etc to work with this concept more information i'm not going to name them all uh the presentation is shared with the organizers and they can share it with the rest of the crew but this helps you to deepen uh your uh questions uh and help you find answers or we can start the q and a any moment thank you for your attention back to you serena thank you very much casper that's been really interesting um and almost bang on time we're into the into questions um i think uh claus might have to leave early so if claus is still online i was gonna maybe prioritize one question one or two questions for him before he goes um he was okay yeah um we had a question from kormack in the chat um could you tell us more about district heating in Copenhagen and how that could help decommission thousands of fossil fuel home heating systems um yeah it is so that uh it's a it's a company called hope for h o f o r that supplies the whole city of Copenhagen with the district heating it's it's it's mainly owned by the city itself uh and it covers 90 98 percent of the city is supplied with the district heating from this company uh used for heating of houses flats businesses and water for the bath and the yeah the water is yeah and the biggest biggest part of it is produced on on big plants and what we burn is biomass and garbage and a little part of it is natural gas and and then a very much smaller proportion this is by burning of oil uh but that's only for for peak peak periods but one of the critiques also from from the climate plan has been in the burning of biomass i think it not only comes from Denmark but also from the Baltic countries for instance uh so this is not seen as a sustainable way forward so we will find other ways to to have it made in the future but of course it's it's it's a lot more it's a good way to to to to supply heating to the to citizens than than yeah than oil than that is what the person is asking about so yeah yeah um there was uh also another question just a comment of is there a link to the building material data um that we could access that you that you mentioned so i don't know if it really exists uh only in in Dave so that's the same for you guys but then you should invite one of my colleagues to to talk about this but but i can just uh if i should share with you quickly uh then you can see yeah yeah what it looks like because they actually do a handbook that is uh sort of rewised very often and and here you can just see the the the chapter two it's called the low hanging fruits and there you can see it so it's concrete clt elements in wood and it's uh i don't know what that is actually glass glass wall uh light amateurs uh mirror wall or bricks walls uh division walls steel uh uh yeah bricks and so on and wood and of course the problem with the whole circular economy agenda is to uh to have to have to have the materials in in a clean in a clean way so that's why we're developing material passports so that we can make sure what the fractions are and that they're clean and not polluted by by by all things but that's of course going into the whole circular economy agenda that has been a thing since the grill to grill yeah i think it was maybe my colleague miff who asked a question in the chat about circular economy like could you give some examples of some of the sorts of materials or goods that can be reused and what the challenges are with that i think it's up to a hundred percent uh reused in our civil works projects so it's so it's mainly the avoidance of of buying new new granite uh and instead of reusing the ones that we sort of remove when we do uh projects one place and use it in our place and then it's uh what we do for for roads is to also use the concrete if it if it cannot be reused in our ways then it gets sort of grinded and then we can use it to to materials to to make new roads and uh yeah and then you saw the landfill site so if we cannot use the materials then we sort of deposit it locally in our north harbour and then we sort of expand the city that way and uh one big in sort of also controversial project is called it's an island artificial island called the lunette home and where because our solid deposit is full because we have so much new buildings and new metro and so on so we have a lot of dirt and soil clean and dirty soil uh all the time so the new project is to make a big time outside of Copenhagen and that's a controversial because it's a big infrastructure project yeah so kind of growing the way growing in the harbour so but it's also seen as a foundation project but it could be solved in in unless there's a way out let's see I think um a topic that came up in maybe a couple of the comments earlier and it maybe sort of applies to all of the speakers who are left here um is like the idea of what the local authority or the local council is able to do and the sort of what the national government is doing or how much support it's giving I wondered what does that look like internationally so maybe maybe Klaus as as you were already speaking maybe we just could go with you and then go over to maybe Casper for the for his perspective like here in the UK there's often a lot of but the national government isn't supporting the local councils to do this kind of work like is is that is is there pushback like that in Copenhagen as well um does does it feel like the the the city level and the national level are aligned and supporting each other or is is it more difficult in the in the Copenhagen context it's more difficult we we sort of have to give a lot of our money away to smaller municipalities around around Denmark because we are so so such a big municipality and there has been a lot of talk also that can be backed up by by actions that the government in Denmark is not actually supporting big cities in Denmark like Copenhagen for instance and instead of sort of favoring the provincial part of Denmark so that's been a very big critique even though the Lord Mayor in in our city is a social democrat and the government is a social democrat and then they know that there are more voters in the country regions of Denmark than in the in the capital so we have to finance a lot of ourselves but it's it's it's clear that for instance in the agenda of non-verbal machinery a lot of things could could happen much quicker if the government the governmental state level EU level were on this agenda and wanted to do something and they could do a lot more than we could ourselves and Casper is it similar in Amsterdam well I focus especially on climate adaptation and also we have a national program on climate adaptation and that's speeding up and now already working for more than than eight years now but a lot of the measures eventually have to ground at the local level and even on the the small stamp that the Netherlands is we see large differences between the eastern and the western part the hilly south and the low lying well delta based western part so it's a search because you have to find the right measures on the right scale and that's in such a new developing policy domain as climate adaptation still a search often who's going to pay and what's it going to cost us and who's going who's own owns the challenge but we think that as a capital city Amsterdam we have we need to have that ambition and share it with our fellow communities and municipalities we have long-standing relationship also with Rotterdam and the other big cities in the Netherlands so we don't do it alone but sometimes being ahead is nice but don't be well angry at the others if they jump over you and are ahead in another field and in that way you can stimulate each other learn from each other and also work the national government we need sometimes more national policy instruments than a multitude of local policy instruments. I was going to say Annie obviously this is something that comes up in the school cards discussions a lot I wondered whether you had a perspective on that kind of relationship between local authorities and national government and whether that's going to factor into the school cards work coming up like I think this was a question that Cara put in the chat that will government's climate action be scored as a as a blocker for local authorities climate action maybe. Yeah so I think it's very similar to what I was saying throughout the school cards my presentation in the councils in the UK are limited to some extent by national government legislation perhaps a good example is like onshore wind turbines it's really hard to build them unless it's already like recognising your local plan and in general national government aren't super in favour of them however there are things that councils can be doing within those current constraints so to give some examples and this is in terms of actions rather than plans like councils can implement a workplace car parking levy to like raise income and reduce car parking not again so far as any council has done that councils can put in low emission zones and they can require new builds to have higher energy efficiency standards although that one is interesting because we were researching it about trying to understand exactly what councils can do and basically like the UK parliament has said like it's unclear what councils can do and I think there's just a lot of yeah it's not very clear and councils are kind of nervous understandably but like how far they can push the boat because there's not that guidance or support a lot of places like Lancaster they're like changing their local plans their local government strategy on how they're going to build this fourth area you know they're waiting for one council to do it first and then that sets a precedent for maybe other councils to do it so hopefully these school cards will show you know a better picture of what is already happening and maybe there are some councils kind of like reaching that threshold in some actions that other councils aren't aware of and that might give them that confidence to do that work in terms of how we're going to use the school card to like lobby for national government change we're hoping that we can have like a research partner and like provide that knowledge and those recommendations of what can change at a national level but also we want to make sure that our school card questions are most useful for campaigners and organisations within the sector so Green Building Council are already working to kind of campaign for better planning regulation for climate related stuff local council so we want our questions to be useful for them so they can then use that data as further evidence you know to do the work that they're already doing so hopefully that sort of answers your question. Yeah definitely, Cara noting in the chat that national planning is a big barrier and road construction, I wonder Ariane is this a challenge you faced at Wiltshire too? Yeah definitely I completely agree with everything Annie's just said that it would be much easier for councils to do more if there were more sort of national policy enabling you know legislation and policy in place the national policy planning policy framework doesn't make it easy for councils to push and do more than kind of what's already in there as Annie says it's kind of you know up to individual councils to kind of test how far they can go while risking having a whole local plan thrown out if it doesn't work which costs an absolute fortune so yeah there's something wrong in terms of how things are nationally to enable local action it's something that we are very active in terms of campaigning at a national level as local councils so Wiltshire council is a member of a lot of different organisations that all campaign so we're members of ADEPT we're members of the UK 100 in fact our leader is co-chair of UK 100 members of the countryside climate network and through the LGA as well the local government association so through all those networks we're campaigning really hard to say to national government look there are some things that we really need you to do to enable us to go further and faster so yeah that's a key message. Yeah campaigning I was going to I was going to say like is there are there any good examples of either citizens or community groups or like like the wildlife trusts for example or whatever it was you mentioned like or the the local authority like working together to try and change this and to to demonstrate like this is what we need at a local level from national government. I think what tends to happen is people tend to come to the council because we are the democratically well not me personally but our councillors are the democratically elected representatives for Wiltshire and are the most accessible for people locally in Wiltshire who want to campaign so they tend to campaign for the council to change things and actually a lot of the things that they want the council to change some of the things we can change but a lot of them are either very difficult for us to do because of the national context or you know actually in some cases actually just not possible for us to do so we then have to take those issues and campaign join forces with other councils and campaign through those groups I just mentioned and we do have a very clear set of requests from government so there was a blueprint document which was put together through ADEPT Ashton Friends of the Earth and a lot of councils signed up to that including Wiltshire Council and we said these are the things we need government to change it's very very clear and unfortunately it hasn't changed very much because there hasn't been a lot done since that was launched and it's just about to be refreshed so anyone who wants to see what councils are actually asking national government to change you can you can look at that document. We had another question one for Casper from Snoot Green. How would you recommend supporting renters or tenants to engage with their landlords or property owners to make these kinds of changes and installations have you found any mechanisms that work for that? Well we believe in starting the dialogue and within the rainproof network we also engage commercial real estate owners their driver might be that the creation of a climate adaptive building or climate robust building has more value a green building a more biodiverse building also has a higher value in the social housing environment costs are a serious issue in the Netherlands they don't have that much left to create that social housing necessary but in mid-range or high-end real estate we see easily adaptation towards multifunctional roof system because a roof terrace or a roof park-like landscape can add value to the real estate we see transformations where a communal roof garden with a little extra in the rent is easily embraced by the renters because they have a great view of surroundings no worry about the garden still a very nice place to to live the city. That's really interesting yeah and the sort of the kind of benefits I saw Sean sharing in the chat the in Wales the situation with the Wellbeing of Future Generations Act that kind of adds similarly like looking at the other benefits of these kinds of things like rather than just reducing emissions or whatever like are there well-being benefits that could be had or as you say like are there is there financial value that could be added to places by making these kind of changes. You have to find your local dialogue sometimes don't throw all the real estate owners on one pile because some are ahead are willing to invest and searching for and others are very reluctant and and and keep their money and investments down to the to the to the minimum but in the cultural context everybody knows best locally and as suggested each region each country has its own legislation its own goals and find the right language and the right triggers to start a dialogue and then you can go a long way and don't give up that's the the main lesson I guess because keep that dialogue going show the examples work with each other and then you will find progress. I think on the on the topic of dialogue I know a couple of the comments throughout the presentations were about this the issue of sort of involving residents representing opinions and views and lived experience from communities. I think there was one question for Ariane maybe we'd love to know a bit more about the logistics of reaching more diverse respondents how do you go that extra mile to ensure they participate? Yeah I'm happy to sort of say a bit more about that I mean I think that there are sort of three elements to that so one is about the channels that you use so are they the channels that you know diverse communities are going to be engaging with another aspect of that another aspect would be around using intermediaries so having strong partnerships with people who can then reach out to those groups that the council can't reach on its own and then I think the other thing is around keeping things simple and accessible so I showed the example of our easy read summary we also just produced as I say a very visual document very engaging and then just sort of examples of the channels that we use I did sort of mention this in my presentation but a mixture of online versus face-to-face versus posters and print so that you're you're sort of reaching people who are not necessarily you know online and are not engaging with social media for example and then using intermediaries is really important so there's like a Wiltshire association of local councils which will reach out to all town of Prash councils for example there's the Wiltshire Racialist Equality Council there's a centre for independent living to reach people with disabilities so we have all these different intermediaries we worked with the diocese to reach schools because they had an open door with certain schools we were very keen to work with them on our consultations so we kind of went through them as an intermediary so we have you know all those partnerships and we use those partnerships then to have a way in with partners that may have been more difficult or resonant to maybe be more difficult to reach otherwise and maybe Annie you might have examples of councils potentially using technology or maybe old-fashioned technology like just getting out there and actually pounding the pavements and knocking on doors for this kind of local climate action maybe around engagement are there any good examples of councils doing this really well or how they do it? Yes I don't have like loads off the top of my head but when they were writing the climate action plans like decent citizens and assemblies were often encouraged where you get a cross section of society to come and as they're giving up their time as volunteers you then offer them you know payment or vouchers or at least travel expenses for the day because that is often a big barrier to people attending in childcare like that and we do want to see councils that have like ongoing engagement with residents that isn't yet just like Ariane said they're like normal groups that you know care about the environment and there have been some councils that have set up like online platforms where you can kind of like log in and share your comments and stuff like that can be great for one of the things we're noticing is that we're not going to say that's like an ongoing way to engage with residents if it is like just sending in comments we want it to be interactive so people can respond to the comments you can see how many people there are so some are using um yeah actually more engaging things and some are less engaging I'm pretty sure for memories Lambert is one of the more engaging ones and I do think yeah it is the strength the ability of councils to engage with like why decide where they are is like somewhat dependent on those councillors themselves in that culture and if those councillors you know really are members of the community and like know about their local area you know like Ariane said having connectors then it will be a lot easier so I think yeah it's this it's a symptom of like perhaps like how the wide council is working it's not just about climate it's about more widely how a council like engages with its residents Ariane I think you had a comment to add yeah I was just responding to your comment about door knocking so that's not something we would normally endorse as a council because there are so many issues with cold calling and scams and it's just not something that we normally do so we would try to get the message out and encourage people to come to us at something local so that's why we went for libraries so that people could come to their local library and talk to us we also had copies of our climate strategy consultation document and easy read on all our mobile libraries so we have as well as all the fixed libraries in Wiltshire we also have a van that goes around all the villages and we had all you know the poster and all that information on our mobile library so that would have reached the rural communities you know close to their home without us actually going going to knock on their door yeah really good point Susan in the chat has shared that in her breakout room this afternoon she's going to be sharing how they used Vocalize which is an online platform to engage the community in south wales and Klaus I think maybe you had another point on this comment one positive and two negatives from Denmark about citizen engagement in this agenda one positive done in the end of last year this year is from the municipality of Greene in Denmark south of Copenhagen they have done what is called a climate citizen assembly where you sort of make people being represented by by sort of a it's sort of a digital thing to sort of getting making sure that you get a representative sort of portion of the citizens in Graven to sit around the table and then come up with they are sort of presented towards the agenda okay we have climate issues we need to tackle and what what what do you suggest and then they come up with suggestions and because the politicians were not so far and because they were willing to sort of engage and listen to them this has been very a very successful example of this climate citizen assembly we also have had two nationals in Denmark and they are both being being sort of analyzed and negatively by a man who has done so because there has not been been the same willingness to to to listen to what the citizens had to say to to to to not very many politicians showed up and and they wanted to do what they wanted to do themselves anyway and that isn't too too much to the citizens but they have been analyzed by a guy called last turner who's an expert in Denmark about this he's written a very interesting book called Power in the Anthropocene where he sort of makes the argument that that power is sort of changing in light of climate change so well yeah just an idea to contact him that's really really interesting we've got a couple of minutes left of the the Q&A and then I'll make sure everybody gets a lunch break I mentioned that we had these these grants available for for people to make use of and we'll talk a bit more about those in the afternoon I just wondered while we've got the speakers here like if if you could implement something or a community to you know or your local communities could implement something with £5,000 it's not a huge amount of money but maybe it's enough to test out an idea or make some small change to to prove something might work or like what what would it be what would what would you do with £5,000 I don't know who wants to go first on that maybe pop your hand up if if you've got an idea go on Annie definitely maybe not like my top it's just what came to mind yeah but a lot of what councils are needing to do is to do that planning and the prep so it sounds like they've done it at Wiltshire but you know working out you know employing someone to actually cost how much would it cost to retrofit all homes and how would we do it and like having that plan ready so that it can be used and a slightly lower scale on because some council are doing it well and they should like legally they're able to is enforcing minimum energy efficiency standards so having a landlord register of knowing all your landlords so yeah basically consultancy work to work out who are the rented properties in the UK and what are their EPC ratings so that councils then target ones that are illegal because that below EPC rating E and yeah there is enforcement roles of councils but it's doing that groundwork to understand that data so that work can then be implemented they're the top things that come to mind because I've been looking at our building sections recently. Any other ideas from the other speakers I see Cormack's got his hand up I'll pass to him if we haven't got anything else from the speakers go for it Cormack welcome to the stage or not sorry I'm on speaker one of the ideas I'd like to have is to have educational street parties so in a local community we put on street parties and as part of the party we educate people on say solar power or district heating and electric car and shared mobility and all that kind of thing that people that are just simply not aware of. I think funnily enough here in I'm based in Liverpool funnily enough the road one of the main roads in the city is getting closed tomorrow because it's car free day or something national it's car free day yeah yeah international they're doing exactly that there's like going to be a sort of impromptu fare on in in the road space which I'm sure is going to prostrate a lot of motorists but it could also be like a nice opportunity to share some new ideas yeah all the shared bike schemes here are giving free bikes for the day so right that's great so we're having something similar but just more community education I think would help localised education would help and not just on a national level because unfortunately the average person really just is too busy worried about their energy bills that they're not thinking about what is actually available to them and how it would benefit them yeah and Clowns I saw you you unmuting did you want to yeah one comment is that we the last time we had a car free uh sunday sent in what was in the 70s where we had the energy crisis and it is being discussed again but not in a serious matter but that could be a good idea also to implement with us I would just say in terms of this education for sustainable development ESD a big report has been just given over to the danish minister in charge of this by all the the sort of the green that is a big thing also I would like to give my but what I would use a 5004 was in my local apartment where I live with 20 other apartments so it's just to go ahead and use the money on direct implementation to to make our flat flies more energy is sustainable I think that George Mombio he has shown in the book a heat how to stop global warming is to just we can we know what we can do it's just to do it so we should just get on the way with the 5000 and then to make a plan on how to implement the rest and we know it's the only thing we need to we cannot do in the future is to fly otherwise we can reduce to zero all the other basics we want to having the world brilliant and fine maybe a final comment from Sean I just wanted to build on Cormac's point because I love the idea I didn't know if people are aware that San Francisco will pay for their residents to have street parties on the basis that it's the best way to prepare for a range of natural disasters that are kind of increasingly frequent in California so rather than trying to retrofit a building to be better prepared for an earthquake at the same time as trying to figure out how you you know prepare for fires you just want to get people to get to know each other better so in the process of organizing a street party the condition is that everybody's invited so you find out whether what languages people speak whether people have mobility impairments that you need to take into consideration so if a disaster strikes people know each other and know each are aware of each other's needs so I just love it as a really lateral idea that it wouldn't be the thing you'd necessarily think of from a technical fixed point of view but so many of these solutions really I think boil down to relationships and you know I think that's where we see the link between democracy and climate being very strong that's brilliant thank you very much and thank you so much to all of our speakers and to everyone who posted questions I think there was a few we didn't manage to get round to but maybe the we can follow up by those by email afterwards we're going to be writing a few blog posts about what happened in this event and trying to summarize some of all of your amazing points so thank you very much to our speakers for this morning you're all obviously welcome to stick around after lunch or whatever it is in your parts of the world and this afternoon here's a quick summary of roughly what we'll be doing this afternoon so I'll I'll give a quick introduction to what's going to be happening after lunch the first two breakouts are an adaptation and engagement then we're going to have a short break and then two more breakouts on spatial planning and equity diversity and inclusion and there may be a wrap up in some some next steps around as I say those grants or other ways we can try and support some some action in local communities around around the UK and maybe beyond so I think that that draws our morning to a close thank you so much and we'll be back in a new zoom room the links should all be in your event bright and your emails and and we'll see you at two o'clock this afternoon thank you everybody for coming thank you thanks so hi thank you