 All right. Good morning to you again in case you're just joining us. We've been cruising on the breakfast this morning and it's time for off the press. Chris K. De Wando, member of the Chartered Institute of Obitrators in the UK, is joining us from Lagos this morning. Good morning to you, Chris. Good morning. How are you this morning? I'm good. How are you, sir? I am good. Okay. You're looking as bright as always. Thank you very much. You too. Okay. So let's just go straight into it with the punch newspaper. FG withdraws contempt suit against labor. NLC may suspend strike. That's what they're leading with this morning. The writer's desk solicitor general writes NLC, Falano, said FG suspends suit over to Nubu's intervention. NLC, TUC, await FG on palliative agreement called special meeting over planned strike. So this discussion continues and we're still awaiting. Chris. Yes. You know, the NLC scheduled another strike if the federal government refused to draw the contempt suit against it. Don't forget that the federal government went back to court to file a contempt suit against the NLC for embarking on that one day policy strike that they said. And the federal government was in contact with the ruling of the National Industrial Court, which acts the NLC not to impact any strike after the first notice, but after the initial increase in price of petroleum products. So for that, but NLC was statical in this approach by saying that it's what's important for the protest and not the strike. Yes, strike would have been in contact with the position of the court that anybody can go on protest. It's the fundamental merit that has shined in the NIC Constitution. And any Nigerian have the right to go on strike. And you don't need any police permission to do that or any court pass mission because that has been settled at the Supreme Court, the highest cost of the court in the land. So, and that was what it was. The federal government otherwise decided to file a content charge against not NLC's label. As we continue to say NLC said that it's the label that's going to include NLC to use the other affinities groups. And for that, this was done the same day that the the label leaders were meeting with the president and they felt that it was contrary to the goodwill gesture extended by the label to the president and the product. So they said they are going to go on strike, full strike, restricting for whatever the court or any day they are going to court. Just like you have in the South is where you have where you have, I've probably said that any day that not being able to keep on the seat are true then. But I think the federal government is done that side product this and that is that show that NLC on the point the next few hours will also step down on that. I'm worried is that to now all the so-called palatins that were promised by the president, all the promises that were promised by the president few days ago in his Nationwide Broadcast Association none have been implemented so far, none. Not that I know, none of them. The banks, the several, the 75 billion companies, the 1 million Naira to various individuals and so many others. And so I hope that the government will know in age. President told us in that speech that yes, in fact that the federal government came short due to what it was to do. I apologize to Nigerians that there were some kind of lapses here but I hope that that is correct. So that Nigerians can start feeling the effect of those cushion and those private teams. And as much as I know that it will not go in anyway but we hope that those implemented. Now that the ministerial nominees have been cleared I hope that in the next few days president will be able to put the chance to on portfolios to the minister so that everybody who were in talks will know. Governors, true governors can now resume. Yes indeed we want to see true, we need to see true governors resume and we also need to see that it's not just all talks but actions so that Nigerians can breathe. Right? Yes. Nigerians can breathe. Because the jagged boots on our neck seems to be so many poonex have been broken so many people cannot breathe. So no matter how so far it is or how far you are all of us are threatened in the pains and to be that only way this jagged boot can be moved from my neck is by making sure that government, true governors are seen to pay. I've not seen any true governors since the integration of the president on May 29th. What we have been seeing is policy, a statement and the parcel of certain economic I don't know how to call it, but the removal of Swiss obsidian, the Naira the valuation of the Naira and the rest of them but the Nigerians go on to be feeling the impact of operative governance and the dividends of the repressive for now have no effect. Yes, we've been hearing words. We've been hearing words. The talk has been plenty. We want action. Actions that would change things and begin to change things. Now let's look at this. Still staying with the punch news paper. There is this picture in front there that says former character commission officer admittes taking bribes indicts chairman. Let me read a bit from that Chris. Commissioner representing your state in the federal character commission, professor Olofela Joseph chairman of federal character commission Farida Danca and the secretary Mr. Mohammed Bailo during the sitting of House of Representatives at her committee investigating ministries, department and agencies, parasitles and tertiary institutions on the mismanagement of the integrated payroll and personnel information system at the National Assembly in Abuja on Monday. So you see this woman with her Quran and you see the panel sitting there. Chris, what do you know about this sitting that took place on Monday? Yes, it has been on, not just Monday. It has been on for some days. Basically it's the job that is going on at the FCC and the there are a lot of information and a lot of revelation about the chairman of the commission and they put to sideline a lot of her workers of fellow staffs and directors that engage in job that are based on petition that the National Assembly have started an investigation and a lot of things have been unraveled why the woman has been, why the chairman has been defending herself it seems that some of her staff are also digging in and repeating a lot. So the investigation is ongoing but we'll see what our best may know, if you ask me I will say that I'm not going to comment on it. This is not the first time such has happened. We have several investigations about the National Assembly and other committees set up by the federal government at the federal and state level and nothing came out of it. Remember what we come to your mind the job that involved the 774,000 many jobs for Nigerians that is 20,000 era jobs The one involving Festos Kiamo Festos Kiamo exactly so and the investigation was carried out by the National Assembly. What happened at the end of it all, nothing happened remember what happened at NDDC we off the mic and on the mic scenario to the extent that one of those physical process under that investigation has raised enough to be as it seems to become the president of the Senate of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. At the end of it all we realized that nothing happened remember the acting MD of NDDC pretended to have fainted and that was the end of that so there have been so many so when they just come up with all this drama I don't pay attention to this Chris let me just well at the risk of sounding like a broken record are we on this path you just find that these things at the end of the day white paper are somewhere gathering dust and no actions taken and then tomorrow another thing will happen and go into another investigation just to waste our time and money. Why are we on this path? Most of them are not, I don't remember something they do their job but I call it recklessness and rascality because the legislators don't have power of prosecution whatever investigation they do they have to pass it to the executive that they take charge of prosecuting all those that are executive includes the Niger police and so if the legislators in their wisdom after the investigation pass on the file to the executive for proper prosecution and the executive refused to do that there's nothing they can do they cannot go to prosecute anybody so the power to prosecute lies with the executive and I hear what you are saying those being investigated are also part of the executive so that is where the problem is so on to begin to do the needful and making sure that those indicted and are brought to work that is how you continue to say because they know that at the end of it so you can do whatever investigation not to have and that creates a lot of community and that is why they really do and Chris I hear what you are saying but again I am wondering the legislature part of the reasons why we have this we have it established is that it should check the powers of the executive so haven't correct me you are the lawyer here but having done an investigation and the executive refuses to play it part doesn't the legislative arm have the power to summon the executive to say why have you failed to act on this did they not have the power to do that and when they summon them and they refuse to do the needful what else can you do and that is why our Constitutional Allegiance plays look at yesterday during the when the someone like was interviewed questions was summoned several times before it in the and there was a president who did this it has to do with leadership once the head is rotting the body language the president the governor are not ready to look at issues of this nature there is nothing the legislators can do they can only do their job beyond that yes you can say okay you can force you can ask and if he refuses you can now make sure that send his name to the police who will be now the first to make sure that the person appears but even part of their city that the police the DSS the NSA office the army which are now all of them including FRRC all of them belong to the executive so even if you end up then and nothing is being the executive doesn't want there is practically but this doesn't have in other countries where we produce the money there is no way to legislate in the united states with someone in that or even do a pro come up with the combination and pass it on without the executive look at what is happening to the former president of the US on the daily basis has been drunk letter and center for some of the atrocities not that he directly was directly involved some of the atrocities based on his speeches based on his statements which have been waited and let people to perform a certain act have many former president of Nigeria have been even there was a time I think it was for someone at one point to come and give certain evidence to address the national assembly and he was on the way to the national assembly when he was asked the executive to stop him from going to but the united states president and even in the UK the prime minister of the united states you see them every week I'm sure you used to see that city where the prime minister has to appear for the parliament I will ask questions stand up somebody will raise an issue that is where we are democracy it's not worked we don't have democracy it's just autocracy and this thread of executive versatility is threatening the very existence of our democracy and it's what's giving birth to what we're seeing springing up in the Sahara region isn't it where it is yes because if you look at what is that that is why we have very very because you see what is happening in some of the West African region in the last 3 years now we have 4 KDOS states that have been removed by the military junta and something must be amiss not as a military but the civilians the executive also are not happy matters if you look at what is happening in Central African Republic and there's another one come watch and see the president is about to think with the constitution of that country so that he can run for another election that will keep him for another 16 years in office and if tomorrow the military strike somebody United States or United Kingdom will start shouting democracy must be written where the man was thinking about changing the constitution what is the United States what is the United Kingdom and what is ECOWAS doing about the ECOWAS they are not saying anything these same ECOWAS in as much as Central African Republic is not part of ECOWAS but you can also raise your voice but still on the continent yes our president can say no we are talking about Africa here but they will not say anything other so it is only when they strike they start making noise so the African leaders also must be very very careful to make sure that they uphold the constitution which they have sworn to uphold some of these issues that those are the issues that mitigate the the activities of some of these militia at least I still believe that the war civilian system or democracy is better than the best military but most often than not we should also be very very careful by what we do the fact is that these people when they want to get elected, when they are seeking output they promise you everything and I will say this time and with that this Bible let us be using Ogun and Shangru for them to swear it is that it does not work no they will tell you Chris then they will tell you say they are not believing in that kind of thing that they can't do anything because that is our own the thing will not strike the person if I am dead this Bible these people are taking this Bible and holding it for granted because they know that it does not work let us try Ogun and Shangru but how is that they will not I am telling you, you will see what will happen that's what I am telling they know what will happen so they will tell you they don't believe in it and that they cannot swear by it all right moving forward there are two other newspapers with me Daily Trust and The Independent and leading with the same topic they will catch differently Eurobound flights are averted and means fear of fear hike I mean that that's Daily Trust and Daily Independent says 6 aircraft minimum regulation for start-up airlines costs stare so let's dig deeper using Daily Trust the riders there Lagos London one way ticket costs 5.6 million narrow Mali Burkina Faso send delegation to Niger Air France suspend flight Air Coas meets against Thursday Germany threatens coup peace with sanctions prosecution so the headline there is Niger airspace closure Eurobound flights diverted and means fear of fear hike Chris the fact the Nigerian Nigerian airspace because they have this fear that there's going to be an invasion of Niger Air Coas led by Nigeria after the exploration of the 7-day ultimate of keeping the government to restore the civilian and for closing that airspace what means that most Eurobound in fact most of the flights out of Nigeria and most of it fly through if you travel out of the country and following the road map on your screen we see that they enter through Niger you enter into Nigeria through Niger that is the easiest route so if the airspace are closed that means that the airplanes have to find other routes to fly across which may be far far longer and so that is that we increase the prices it happened in Europe sometime ago and I think some of the flights have to pass through Ukraine and the rest of them because of the war going on most countries of the world don't pass through Ukraine again so that they will not be hit by missiles and the rest of them so we have to take some route at the time that the Saudi Arabia it also happened in Syria during the Syrian war that major war in Syria was flying through Saudi Arabia and some other parts of that region we have to avoid Syria because that is what happened which is why we always say that it is not just say that oh we are going to invade in the 70s but to return the issue of the deployment of military is always the last option in the diplomatic engagements you start by negotiation you start by diplomacy I believe that eco was shot by issuing that it wasn't necessary because when you do that you have shot all those of negotiation yes you have shot all room for negotiation and it becomes so terrible at the end of that 70s if you are not able to deploy military what happens exactly if you disgrace yourself now eco was going to miss on Thursday in Nigeria don't forget that even the president of Nigeria cannot deploy a single soldier to war without getting the express permission of the senates and the senates have met and said we don't want to go to war we are not interested in this thing let us continue to negotiate there is also the in the absence of the senate by the constitution to also it can get the approval of Nigerian defense council I think Nigerian defense council they can also give approval for the deployment of military to any country or but even with that within 7 days of this day that the president must also get the approval of the senates what was saying we are not even a single troop out of Nigeria and when we are talking about this issue eco wars we are talking about eco wars let me tell you a fact that if eco wars is going to war with any country Nigeria is going to control not less than 90% of the soldiers and the resources it's a fact we saw what happened but over 90% of those deployed and the resources were from Nigeria for in Liberia and Sierra Leone how much were the people over 90% of the soldiers were lost at that war we are Nigerians so what are we talking about how many we talk to how many we benefit and contribute so we have to be very careful not even at this point we have so much war facing us we cannot be able to go into that I think negotiations will continue to negotiate my guest yesterday my guest yesterday just shared the same sentiment that you are sharing over this matter Nigeria bears the brunt of it already Nigerians are beginning to see Nigerians as the enemy and this is not in Nigeria versus Niger war we don't have any problem with Niger we don't have any problem with Niger so we just have to be very careful so this Euro bound flight that version it's already making compounding an already bad situation as you can see on daily independence 6 aircraft minimum regulation for start-ups airlines flight tickets already foreign air travels have become very very expensive just yesterday we got to know that let me get that figure out airlines have spent 4.6 billion dollars on foreign trips Nigerians have spent 4.6 billion dollars on foreign trips in just 15 months Nigerians are paying the highest in West Africa to travel from Nigeria to London not just Nigeria to London, Nigeria to US maybe to Canada, Nigeria to everywhere yes and to other parts of the world is a factor of so many things there are so many factors one is the fact that the airlines are now domesticating their fares in dollars in Nigeria because of the fact that they cannot repatriate their money from Nigeria don't forget that airlines even like Emirates stop flying to Nigeria because of that they have so much money stopped here and they cannot be able to repatriate it and that is giving them a problem second is the fact that there is no fine situation where our Naira has been brought whether we like it or not what is happening is the valuation leave what is so called yes, leave what is we are closing the window what is happening is Naira has the value that was the very first sentiment I shared the very first question I asked so is this adding value to Naira or the value that was the first question I asked from the very start that is from the face of things I know that Naira is about the part that is obvious is that somebody was saying that Naira is up to about 900 Naira to a dollar I have not checked I have not been buying dollars but what it means is that Naira has been devalued now you have the value of 850 Naira to a dollar prior to the 29th of May it was hovering around 500 or 600 now it has been devalued so we have to know that these FAS are increased now what Niger what Niger has been going to neighboring countries like Lume, Accra, Ghana to go to their flights and flyers that is the second one the third one is the economic situation in Nigeria is making it typical for Nigeria even the people that you expected to remain in Nigeria professionals, bankers, bank managers I went to my bank the other day I was asked by the manager the manager bank manager if the bank manager could then what is so a lot of Nigerians have lost faith in the country they have not seen any level of survival they cannot see themselves apart from those that are looking for legitimate ways of traveling now so I have also resorted to going to neighboring African countries to Libya so many Nigerians are dying on the desert now trying to find a way to Europe so many are dying on the sea so many Nigerians if you see any documentary of both capsizing in the European seasons if you see the number of Nigerians that are involved with that we will not have any difficulties those few days ago we saw four stories with Nigerians that will find their way under the belly of a ship they went under the belly of that ship and that ship sailed for two weeks it departed in Brazil and they came out of almost half-dead four Nigerian stories you can google it so that is how bad the situation so Nigerians are selling their house I have friends that have a legitimate means of livelihood who have sold their house just to relocate from Nigeria so of course the airlines because we seem to be the one of the highest people travelling out of Africa and to even make it worse the other countries are making two gents conditions for Nigeria some countries have been some countries like US, Canada and the rest of them have been very liberal minded with certain African countries like South Africa most of them have a South African passport going to US now is not a problem they will give some 30 million if you have a Moroccan passport you don't even need a visa to go to some of these countries like US, Canada and rest of them they allow you in but because of the condition Nigerians have found their self it has turned to Nigerian mozgo you know in the 90s we used to be what we are talking about is Nigerian mozgo and that is why the increase in the airfare and the government doesn't do anything and other than that is the fact that we don't even have enough Nigerian airlines flying to some of these countries because if a Nigerian airline is flying to these countries it reduces the problem you can be in Nairo they can domesticate it in Nairo it is only a piece that you see going to Tel Aviv going to China going to India going to which other country now most Africa there is no other Niger airline that is flying unlike other countries so those are the issues and it is regulations such as this making it difficult for more players to come into it this 6 aircraft minimum regulation for start-up airlines it is so you cannot so you see a situation that even when through we have certain routes we have routes that we that have been given to us we cannot be more satisfied we cannot be able to meet up to those demands so other countries how much Ethiopia airline is making out of Nigeria Ethiopia airline Nigeria used to have the best and highest number of aircraft in the whole of Africa in the 70s and at least 80s now we don't have a single one plane as a national career all the countries that we have to set up their own are doing very well Ethiopia even Egypt and Nigerians now fly from here to Morocco I spent 1 hour sitting and waiting for connected flight to Europe is that not is that not terrible? it's very terrible and the controversies that surrounded the Nigerian Air project is still yet to be completely that we use billions of Naira to unveil a look you forgot in that one oh well all right so Senate Clairs 45 the first confirmation of LRFI then Ladi Okotete we're looking at the independent yeah 45 out of the 48 ministeria nominees have gotten to know and I'm sure that probably tomorrow a different executive can show everyone is the president may decide to show them and allocate portfolio to the 45 what I don't know is that whether we're still going to create more ministries and also if we're creating more ministries and now do away with the minister of states that has been very controversial and now it's most like the new ministers are going to create it there's not going to be any minister of states but the most annoying part of it is that this is going to be the most Google's ministeria since 1999 and this is the president that is telling us we are going there as us also tighten our bed but why as not to tighten our bed they are losing their hope and enjoy if you know the tech of office that come with these ministers the number of project the number of it the number of this special assistant special assistant to special assistant to special advisors and the rest of them may ask you what is it this is what I remember recently about the issue of being able to cut down on these ministries and MDS and MDGs so that we can streamline most of this but it's shocking that this president who promised to be prudent in spending our resources have decided to name 48 ministers the highest in the whole of Africa and go and check out of that African countries I say what is the size of Ghana Nana doesn't have more than 28 or a minister the same to South Africa I've done the mass in fact the United States go and check the United States and see the number of secretaries that they have which is our equivalent of the minister go and check the United Kingdom I don't know what the president wants to do but the senate have given him the approval they have approved 45 the under three had been investigated which to me is just a normal voice voice issue including a report will be cleared in the next few days and he will have the party minister whether 48 or 100 or 200 whatever the president likes it is very good to choose a minister but the fact is that let these people start governing let us be seen in the evidence of democracy let Nigeria start feeling the effects of governance but now Nigerians are so free the cost of food is skyrocketed the transportation education the doctors and strike everything has gone seems to just go down the slope and we have a president who promised that he understands our feelings and that he truly understands how painful it is we hope so too thank you so much for your time this morning on the breakfast thank you very much thanks for having me Chris Canda a member of the Chattel Institute of Obitritos in the UK and he has joined us right here in Lagos on we will take a break now and come back with our first hot topic stay with us