 to take that shit and put it in this other van that we had. And so me and Papertrae's talking. And next thing, you know, Papertrae said, man, they saying Pym C dead. I said, man, that shit man could do something. I did the same thing. Yeah. Bullshit, because you know, I talked to Pym. That's what I was gonna ask you, what was the time before that? I talked to him two days before he died. Me too. He said, man, he said. Two days before? Saturday night. So he was doing a show with two short days. Saturday night. Yeah, he was doing a show with two short days. He said, man, I'm having fun. I met LA, he said, I'm feeling, you know, me and two short, I'm gonna go fuck with two short. Two short guy to show. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one. You know, he like, man, don't cut me out, man. Don't cut me out, man. I want my million, right? I said, man, you know, I ain't gonna do you like that, Pym. Now fucks with you. Because we did the best of both worlds together. You know what I'm saying? So while he in jail, you know, we get that call. Yeah. Pym dead. You know what I'm saying? I was about to ask you about that. I'm like, man, I'm tripping, right? Because I'm, I'm in Atlanta. And, you know, I had, I was trying to hide my cars. You know what I'm saying? So I had a lot of, you know, high-end cars. So it was just broad in College Park. I was fucking with, she had a garage. So I could put two cars there. You know what I'm saying? I had like about six cars. So I had to escalate in the compressor. I had the Benz here there. So I'm over her house. And you know, we, we put in the cars there, you know. So we thinking about this shit. You know, and then I got some DVDs too. Yeah. Over by house. So we had like about 5,000 DVDs over there. So we fit to take that shit and put it in this other van that we had. And so me and Piper Chase talking. And next thing, you know, Piper Chase said, man, they saying, Pym C, dad. I said, man, that shit, man. I did the same thing. Yeah. Because you know, I talked to Pym. That's what I'm going to ask you. What was the time before that? I talked to him two days before he died. Me too. He said, man. He said Saturday night. So, so he was, he was doing a show with Two Short. Saturday night. Yeah, he's doing a show with Two Short. He said, man, I'm having fun. I'm in LA. He said, I'm feeling, you know, me and Two Short off the go fuck with Two Short. Two Short got a show. He said, Ken, I'm sorry for being tardy. That was weird. You know what I'm saying? That was weird. I mean, like, you know, this nigga, we ain't talking like in about two weeks. This nigga just called me right before he died. He said some shit like that, right? And, you know, it was just, it was just strange. And then once, you know, we, you know, we was hearing about it. You know, Rick Fountain, right? In the room with Rick, because Rick got all his computers and shit. Yeah. You know, so, so, so Rick calling me like, yeah, yeah, man, it's true, man. It's true. It's true. So, you know what I mean? I'm sitting there, you know, you got to remember, we got, we have every magazine together. We don't, we're doing all these songs together. And, you know, a lot of people, I know he probably know about it. You know, UGK, the nigga, what's the nigga name? The nigga, seven. The nigga, 17. The nigga, 17. The nigga, bankroll. The nigga, IVP. These were, these were the niggas that was on the street having money. Yeah. So, how Pimp was gonna perform the record label was, he was gonna just take niggas with money. He said, y'all niggas buy your own jewelry, y'all buy your own thing, and I'm gonna let y'all use the UGK brand. Can I tell you that? He teach over the exact same thing. Didn't I tell you that? He was setting everybody up, and it was up by the... In other words, in other words, the other rappers who didn't have no money, I didn't want them to feel some type of way that those guys hopscotch stay ass to the, to the front of the line. Because Pimp had a vision that, Pimp and Boyle are the type of nigga that you better be helping yourself. Yeah, that's what he was doing. Don't wait on me, goddammit. If you waiting on me, your ass gonna be waiting. If you helping yourself, you got your own bread, yeah, we can put some with something to make something happen. Which makes sense. That was the move, and all the niggas became hot. Yeah, yeah. No, they became hot from fucking with Pimp C, and it was when the UGK changed, all that shit. You know, these was niggas that I knew personally that I just, I introduced Bank Road to Pimp, I introduced Ivy Peter Pimp. I think 17 was fucking with him already. So we was, all of us, he said, go find the niggas with the money, bring them, and that's how we're gonna form the UGK record. That's what UGK records would have been, had Pimp not had done, there's been a bunch of niggas that he was selling dope, hustling or whatever the fuck they was doing. Real street dudes. Real street niggas. And you know what I'm saying? That's how Pimp wanted to form it. He didn't want to do it. Doesn't make sense, because he's an underground king. He didn't want to make sense. He didn't want to go pick artists. The only one artist that he ever wanted to fuck with that wasn't in that, that was one of my artists. And then this brother, you know what I'm saying? He didn't understand the business, so you know what I mean? He didn't sign, but you know, Pimp only wanted to sign it because he seen me putting money in traction behind the nigga. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. You know, and you know, but other than that. James is funny, bro. Other than that? He didn't like, Chad didn't like rappers, and he didn't like athletes. And he, hey, tell him, he didn't like a lot of the big rappers, neither, man. Bro, he didn't like them. Man, hey, bro, bro. If somebody saw him, you hear him say stuff on him? I know the story behind what he's saying and who he talking to. What story is that? I can't just do that, bro. I can tell you, and all I can tell you, it made Rest in Peace, Maroy, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, Maroy. Maroy did the cross-country pivot. He had footage of Pimp talking bad about somebody, a lot of your favorite rappers. Pimp didn't like a lot of niggas that, today, y'all call moguls. What happened to that footage? He didn't put it out. I was there, and I remember, you know, Pimp saying, hey, you know what I'm saying? But you know, before he said, hey, he like, yeah, that nigga this bad, that nigga that bad, that nigga's a sucker, man. You know, man, I don't fuck with them niggas trying to steal UGK songs. That's all Pimp used to say. These niggas trying to steal the UGK brand, man. You know, because, you know, Pimp felt that he had a monopoly on the Pimpin. The Trial too, like the word Trial. But a lot of niggas, you know what I'm saying? Me, like from New York and, you know, a lot of part of the country, you know what I'm saying? Me, they want to do Pimp songs. So Pimp was like, these niggas weren't thinking about no Pimp songs until, you know, he started, and then they would come and get Pimp. Now they would pay him and shit, like, on one instance, man, Pimp made him go get a Benz and stuff. What they were saying at the funeral, you remember the people from Jive Records, they said that they was telling, we was at the funeral, so this was Jive Records said. I didn't say this. I'm just livid. Yeah, so they was like, they said, yeah, man, so we telling Pimp to go through this, this is gonna be the biggest thing in his career. Pimp said, yeah, man, I ain't doing shit, man. He said, well, y'all ain't gonna help me down there with all the rich niggas, man. And I'm looking like a son, he said, I need a motherfucking brand new Benz, take part of a Benz. That's the Benz you're seeing on the Big Pimp in there. Yeah, so he made, yeah, so that was Jay-Z done shit, so he made them, he took them people through hell, cause you know. Hey. No, no, they said this at the funeral, this was some shit I'm saying. He said, man, in order to make that, that Big Pimp in this the time and all that was going on. That was Pimp Benz Benz. To be in the video, Pimp made them of a buy him a Benz. Drove that motherfucker from Atlanta, was in Miami, Florida, somewhere in Florida. Yeah, smoking eyes, going up, keeping you. And he wasn't on the boat, I heard the story, he wasn't even on that, but he brought that Benz and drove it all the way down. Bro, he didn't mess with Jay-Z like that, bro. He didn't mess with Jay-Z like that. Well, I mean, Jay-Z here. He didn't mess with many people up. Well, see his name was, from personal talking to him, he was saying that they were trying to steal his style. So Pimp. The summer style. So you know, okay, now imagine Pimp being paranoid, he get high. Everybody know he get high. And he paranoid. So everybody was, you know, I mean, one time I was talking to Jay-Z, I was talking to Slick Puller and the nigga was, he had an ear by the dope. You know what I'm saying? We can try to see, the nigga trying to see was, I'm going to go on them nigga's side. So I'm telling Slick Puller, man, like man, ain't no tell Jay-Z, ain't no beef, man. We all family, you know what I'm saying? It's good. And Slick Pills, no man, Jay-Z ain't got no problem with Pimp see, you know what I'm saying? But Pimp see listening to me like, it's like, you're a kid. Like, kid, you better not cross me, right? But you know, the nigga was crazy, man.