 I'll set everyone. Welcome to the Essex Junction Trustees Meeting. Please join us for the Pledge of Allegiance. A Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all. Welcome, everybody. I think we know all of you here, so we don't need to put out a general request to sign in. So I think our first order of business tonight is we already have our newest member of the Board of Trustees sworn in. Welcome, Raj. Thank you. Great to see you here. And so our first order of business is reorganization, and so for that purpose, I will turn the meeting over to Mr. Manager. Good evening. We've done the Pledge. The first order of business of reorganization is I will accept nominations for village president. I would like to nominate Andrew Brown as president of the Board of Trustees. Second. Any further discursions? Any further discursions? Excuse me, sir, you're out of order. Okay, one second. So we have a nomination of Andrew Brown, and a second. Do we have any other nominations going once? Going twice. We have a nomination of Andrew Brown to be village president, and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed? Mr. Brown, you are now the village president and the gavel for the meeting is yours. If you wish, which he humbled beyond words, and he can't roll it. He encapsulated it all into words, so thank you. I really appreciate it. Thank you, George, for your leadership work from decade plus. Yeah, thanks. So we now need a nomination for vice president. Along those lines, I would like to nominate George Tyler as village vice president. Second. And are there any other nominations? Well, I was gonna nominate Mr. Karen, but I'm not sure he wants to do it, but it's awkward for you since you nominated, and you would have to second it. I don't know. If you want, the procedure is you can have a nomination and a second, and or you can also ask for other nominations, and then you can decide how you want to proceed about that vote. Okay, so we've had a second on my nomination for vice president, is that correct? Yes. And so I'd like to nominate Dan Karen at least to have some discussion about it. I don't know who else can second that, if Dan can Dan second his own. Cause it, oops. No, it's... He can, if he wishes, or any other member can, including the person who made the other motion. I'll second it for a discussion, yes. I would, I think that Dan has done it before, and I think Dan would be a great number two person for Andrew. On the other hand, I do recognize I do have free time, you don't, so that really is a big issue. I have no problem with you remaining as vice president, or anyone, vice president, I will be involved as much as I can and help out whatever I can, whatever way I can, so it's no issue to me. So, okay. So now that we have two nominations on the table, and what a great way to start this office as president, thank you, I will not thank you later. So the way that I understand we would have to go is we'd have to vote on the first motion, correct me if I'm wrong, first motion being the nomination of George, and then depending on how that one goes, we'll determine whether we need to vote on the second one, or still vote on the second regardless. Two ways, yes, you can take care of the first motion. The other way to do it is that the person who made the motion can withdraw the motion from consideration. I will, notwithstanding, I think our friendship will endure. I think I'll withdraw my motion to nominate Dan. Therefore you have a discussion. Therefore, Mr. President, you have the one and only motion left on the table. So is there anybody else who would like to throw another monkey wrench into this process? Hearing none, then I will let us move to vote. So all those in favor of George becoming the vice president, so you can probably say aye. Aye. Anybody oppose? Dan, it's unanimous. Thank you. Thank you, George. Thank you. So moving along to agenda additions and changes, Mr. Manager. I'm not aware of any additions or changes, sir. Okay. So then since there are no additions or changes, no need to approve the agenda. We are on to the public to be heard. This is a time if there is anybody from the public who has something that they would like to speak to that is not on the agenda. So if anybody has anything to talk about now is the time. Seeing and hearing none, we can move on to business items. So first business item being 6a, I will, I'll take this one. You want to? You tell me, sir. I'll take this. So in looking at our village charter, having the resignation of Elaine Haney from her seat on the village board, we find ourselves in an unprecedented time where we need to now appoint someone to the village board of trustees. Along those lines, there are two ways that we can do this. What I would like to do if the board is willing is since we did find ourselves having an election recently in which there were two fantastic candidates who put themselves forward, took the time to get petitions, took the time to campaign, took the time to talk to the community and really put themselves out there. I would like to have an opportunity where we speak with the person who did not win the election, speak with Ember, have a chance to talk with her about her position, whether she would like to become a trustee and use that as our basis for interviewing candidates and then having a vote on Ember. I agree, can Ember, Ember is in the audience, can she join us tonight? Ember, if you would like to come up and join us. You should ask the rest of the board if they have any objections. Unless there are any objections, any concerns? That's fine. Thank you for being here. Thank you again for putting your name out there to become a trustee. So really to just start this off, I'd like to ask, why would you like to become a trustee? Well, I've been involved with the community on the planning commission for four plus years or so and the capital committee for the last couple of years. I'm just looking to get more involved than what I currently am. I love both of those positions but I'd love to sit at the table here with you folks and talk about the larger politics of the village. So seeing as this is an interim position where it would be for one year up until the next election, are there things in particular you'd like to work on with in the next year? Well, I think governance is obviously at the head of everybody's and consolidation. So I'd like to work on that. I think even just reading through some of the stuff that's going on that as a planning commission member, the capital committee, you see a very small portion of what is happening in the village and I'm pretty busy too. So I can't admit, I don't read all of the trustee minutes and stuff. So sitting down on this weekend and reading through the file is interesting. It's still there. Yeah. Good way to spend the weekend, right? Amber, if I can ask a question. The planning commission is the only other board where your decisions have the force of law like the trustees and you frequently, unlike any other committee, all the other committees in the village are advisory. Yours is not, yours is sort of, you make judgments and frequently you have to do what we do, which is make judgments where there might be people sitting in the audience who aren't happy with what you do, but you have to enforce the code, you have to enforce policy and move the municipal plan forward. So I'd like you to speak just a little bit to that. I mean, what has been your experience with that and you seem like you're fairly comfortable with that. Do you want to discuss that a little bit? Yeah, I guess as my day job is making sure that the law is followed essentially, that kind of makes it easier for me and I've definitely had, my four years I've had one example of which we had a project that didn't meet the code and I thought it was pretty clear that it didn't meet the code. And you've got an applicant sitting in front of you and somebody's got to vote no and I voted no. It was pretty uncomfortable, but that's the code is what the code is. Any other questions you'd like to ask? I have one. Do you have mine, Mr. President? Sure. So you currently sit on the plan commission. Are you aware that if you are selected to serve on the board, you cannot serve on both? I am aware of that. Okay, I just want to make sure and that that would be effective immediately. Immediately. Okay. But she can continue to serve on the capital committee. You can serve on other committees just not plan commission. That's the only one by charter. Dan? I was in the same boat when I became a trustee. I was actually on the planning commission and the rec advisory council at the same time, but I was able to save, I was standing on the rec advisory council for a few more years at least after that. But no, I'm happy to see you. I was glad when you ran. I look forward to hopefully seeing you as a member of our board and look forward to us as a group moving forward with new projects and things in the past and just doing the best for the community. So thanks a lot. I know personally in thinking about this decision, the fact that when I think about the evaluation criteria I would use, a lot of the attributes and experience you have are the things that weigh very heavily on my mind. So very, very much so looking forward to having you board. So if there are no other questions and would someone like to make a motion to approve Amber? I'll move that we approve Amber Tebow as interim trustee for the remainder term of this year until next election second. Is there a second? I'll second that. Is there any further discussion? I think Amber is, I think exactly what you said. If Amber wasn't available, Amber hadn't put her name on the ballot and we were looking at credentials and we opened it up. The very first thing that I would be looking for is someone who, we have lots of people who have great ideas. That's great. But someone who's actually shown through their actions a commitment to the village by being on village committees and serving on village committees. Someone who's really been involved in the process and demonstrated that they can work on a committee. That's the number one criteria for me and that's why I think Amber's an excellent choice. So we have a motion, we have a second. So considering that, let us vote. So all those in favor of Amber becoming the interim trustee, signify by saying aye. Aye. Everybody opposed? That is unanimous. Amber, welcome. If you wanna come on up and along those lines, we need to have, I guess to make this official. No, you gotta sit here. You sit up here. You're up here. You're up here. That's the visitor. Visitor seats, visitor seats. You don't get to hide. You get to sit up here. Thanks guys. I didn't wanna sit next to Dan. This is to the adult table room. Thank you. Oh, she was right. Thank you. That's because it's one of the planning issues. You don't have that kind of money on the white board today. So, welcome. Thank you. Now, to make it official, we need to have Susan McNamara-Hill. So Mr. President, we knew just in case there was a chance that you would be doing this, we asked the clerk to be here to be able to do the oath so that the business tonight could include Amber. So, if you don't mind, I'll have Susan McNamara-Hill come forward and swear Amber in. Hi, Amber Tebow. Do solemnly swear that I will be true and faithful to the state of Vermont? Do solemnly swear I'll be true and faithful to the state of Vermont? I can't. Yeah, that's what a long guy. No, not directly or indirectly. That I will not, directly or indirectly. Do any act or thing. Do any act or thing. Injurious, injurious to the Constitution or government there. Injurious to the Constitution or government there. So help me God. So help me God. Under pains and penalties of perjury. Under pains and penalties of perjury. And there's another part. I, Amber Tebow. Hi, Amber Tebow. Do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of village trustee. That I will faithfully execute the office of village trustee. For the state of Vermont I will do equal right and justice. For the state of Vermont I will do equal right and justice. All persons to the best of my judgment and ability. All persons to the best of my judgment and ability. According to law, so help me God. According to law, so help me God. Under the pains and penalties of injury. Under the pains and penalties of injury. The pain. Thanks, Heather. Mr. Gaby, do nice. So welcome aboard, Amber. Thank you. I'm going to sign over here. So we'll just put you on your hand. Yeah, take a moment. Here. I remember being that long. It's like wanting to get married, isn't it? What's the injury that happens to you? Are you okay with that? I had one that was designed for the village. This is the official one for the stage. I got you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Susan. All right, so welcome. Thank you. It's nice having you. So we can now move on to 6B, the annual review of ethics policy. And Mr. Manager, if you don't mind. Thank you. In your packet, you have the eight-page document that is the ethics policy. On an annual basis, we go through this document, not word for word, but in general. And it has been in your packet. It has a policy statement. It has a list of definitions. It covers what is the definition of ethics, what is the definition of financial interest within the policy. It determines what is your immediate family. What is an official act and what is a private act? It has a section in it. And I'm doing this for not only your benefit, but the people in the audience. There's a conflict of interest section, which spells out that which is a conflict, what is not. Things of contractual nature. It defines ex parte communications, inappropriate use of public position. Getting to the end. Incompatibility of offices. We just went over. One cannot serve on the planning commission and the village board of trustees. It has a section on fair and equal treatment. Disclosure and recusal procedures. Complaint of ethics violation. This is the process by which someone can bring a complaint against an elect official. And then it also requires that the policy be distributed and signed by each of the members. And then I can answer any questions thereof. Does anybody have any questions on bringing this? I did actually. I have read this for the last four years or so. I signed this. And as I was reading it, one thing that jumped out at me was under financial interest. The definition includes a managerial employee of an organization. But it limits it to managerial employee. And I was just curious as to why you would limit it to somebody at that level versus any employee of an organization. That is a fantastic question. I would have my gut reaction would be an assumption that if someone is at a managerial level, they can make a decision. Whereas if someone isn't, they have that kind of capacity to do that. Though I would say that it's not outside of our purview to talk about whether we want to put this on the table for editing. I think that's a great reason to maybe limit it. As I was reading it though, I was thinking you might have somebody who is an employee of a project or something that is going to benefit from it. Right. In some which way, form or fashion. Yeah. Another thought. Yeah. Again, I've never had a problem with this. As I was reading it, looking at it. It's a curiosity. Yeah. Along those lines of curiosity, I know one of the things that I was curious on is I don't know what the select board's policy is on this matter. And if those are well aligned, if there are differences? They are not aligned. I can't speak to the completeness of how they are not aligned, but they're very similar in some respects, but they are not aligned. Maybe this is something that at a future joint meeting that we talked about in terms of making sure that we're also on the same playing field and have level opportunities to participate together. Food for thought for a future conversation. Unless our finance director has other thoughts. One of the things that we're... One of the things on our priority list to work on jointly now that we're going to be meeting jointly more frequently is identifying and aligning key board level policy and procedures. And this is like the number one on our list. So we will be opening it up for discussion in the future. And so is this something that is in this medical packet for us to sign at some point? Right here. I've got another pile of things apart. So even in say adopting it tonight, you are going to get another bite at the apple as part of the alignment of policy and procedure process. So in terms of tonight, all we're doing is just we're not making any formal rules or anything just after the meeting we'll sign the document. So does anybody have any other questions or concerns before we move on? Evan, are you... Sorry, Andrew. You just talked about the actual eight pages of the ethics policy. Are we going to talk specifically about article one, two, or now the general rules that was encoded as well? It was not my intention to go through page by page. Okay. So if we're good with 6B for tonight, then we can go ahead and move on to 6C being the approval to contract for land application, Bilesaw, the Woodcombe farm, and Mr. Jim Jutris. Welcome. Thank you for being here. I'm here to request your consideration for entering into a contract for land application with the Woodcombe family down at the Woodcombe farm here in Essex Junction. We've been land applying. There was a drool from the wastewater facility at the farm for about as long as I've been with this community working. We had a little bit of a gap in between due to some regulatory changes, but it's been a good partnership that's been recognized nationally for the work that we do together. We had involved a third party through contractual arrangement with the Chidna Solid Waste District. You folks approved a new district contract back in February, and in that contract, the land application portion was separated out. There were several reasons for that. The third party did not add some really good value to the process, and to protect everybody's interests, especially in light of the current regulatory climate that we're in. Having a soil agronomist reviewing for the farm and the facility to make sure we're in compliance with our permits as well as the farm's permits puts us all in pretty good standing for the Lake Champlain TMDL. So we think this is a more efficient way to do it. A lot of the costs we pay for with the prior contract were no value add, and we're getting a savings off of that. We are suggesting we pay a little bit more than we had in the contract that we signed back in 2011. But if you look at inflationary costs and if you also look at the regulatory work that the farm is doing and paying for through the agronomist, again, it's a comparable cost to what we signed back in 2011. And on top of this, we don't have franchise fees that we have to pay the solid waste district up for a time. And we still have all the contingencies and full force within our solid waste district contract. So it's a win-win for both of us. One thing that I do feel I need to point out is an emerging subject at the legislature right now. I was going to ask you that. Regulatory wise for, it's called PFAS. Per and polyfluoroalkyl substances. Better known as the material that caused the water contamination down in Bedouton from the St. Cote d'Anne facility. It's also caused similar contamination in Merrimack, New Hampshire, P's Air Force Base, the Burlington Airport from firefighting foam. There was a recent situation in Maine where a farmer took in multiple sources of waste and there was some contamination on his farm. So what everybody's doing is reacting to that. Vermont seems to be taking a very more measured approach right now legislatively and we can only hope that we continue on that path to study and find out what the impact is or what the reality of the problem is. Vermont has done soil sampling throughout the state and the soil sampling they've done has shown a couple of hot spots where they almost suspected it but not really a pervasive problem but this stuff is pretty, it's ubiquitous in the environment, it's everywhere. Similar to the old fuel additive, MTBE, the lead that used to be in gasoline as well. So it's in areas where it's from materials that are used for Gore-Tex waterproofing, stain master carpet protection, Teflon coated bands, Teflon utensils. So it's pretty much everywhere. The concern is high levels, not the kind of levels we're looking at but the levels we look at for compliance are in the part per trillion range. That's like a hundred thousand times more. Lower level. We're talking a whole bunch of zeros there for one. And the standards are really emerging. We did speak to the attorney and the property owner regarding this. The document that we presented gives us flexibility for both the farm and us to withdraw if this is an issue and we're following this very aggressively on the state level to ensure we know what to expect for sampling and we're going to take advantage of that as the first opportunity arises so we can see where we stand. Jim, have they done soil sampling over the sieve of a baseline? So all of a sudden they detect this, you can say was it had nothing to do with anything that you've done? That's what we need to figure out. That's what we need to figure out. It was a farm. This material is also used to keep fertilizers free flowing. So it goes fertilizer so it doesn't log up in the machinery. It used to be used for an awful lot of things. One part per trillion, you could have used that for anything. Plutonium is probably one part per trillion of anything if you test hard enough. I hate to see us libel for something like that. This is an issue everywhere in the state. The wastewater facility is a receptor of everything that goes on in private homes. Somebody does something clean something or it's chunks of something and it goes down the drain where it finds its way to the straightings in our facility. The good news is the health and human services has been monitoring it in human bodies throughout the country. The numbers are coming down. Many of these compounds have been banned for over a decade. So overall exposure is decreasing. We're on the learning curve because we're now just getting to a point a lot of it was kicked off by the Bennington situation. The direct exposure there was significantly higher and definitely a concern. What's the mechanism here? If it's found in the farm, what happens? That's a real good question. The liabilities which we're concerned about and another location to place this waste. Is there a plan B if this goes? The district has looked into alternatives. Right now the province of Quebec has a company called Pondville that has been the district that goes down. They are using wastewater selection as a top soil manufacturing for capping some of the asbestos lines up in North Central Quebec. Canadian province is taking a measured approach like we hope the state will to study this issue for the next two to three years just to see how pervasive it is and how much of a problem it is. So there are options, but the options aren't local. If you put it in a landfill, you're concentrating at landfill leachage treated back at waste for our facilities. For now, those who accept it. We do take leachage from the solid waste district for a closed landfill over in Walliston. The numbers are below the regulatory threshold. So that has been tested and that's not a contributory source right now. One question I had. So with the farm, if I may, the application process that we're utilizing is there only, is this the exclusive way that they receive fertilizer or are they utilizing our fertilizer and others? Right now they're using strictly biosolids. They have for a few years because as part of the Lake Champlain Phosphorus TMDL they're trying to bring down the phosphorus content in the soil. So they're under-applying phosphorus as well as other nutrients. Unfortunately as we're taking more phosphorus out for the wastewater process compliance we're generating more soluble phosphorus that goes to the farm so that's limiting their application rate. I got you. So that's why it's important to have the agronomist involved and a point to the agronomist they use he found some mistakes in some of the land application calculators the state uses and he had some very pointed questions and that's something we've never seen before. So he knows the science and he's protecting the farm's interest, he's also protecting us from over-applying on material that we have to certify. And when I say we, it's not a royal we, it's me. So bottom line is it's tricky and as you know the board had approved a grant for Vermont Phosphorus Innovation Challenge. That grant we're looking at ways to take that soluble phosphorus out and ship it elsewhere. Some preliminary results are just coming in right now. We are forming crystals and they're trying to figure out how to separate them from the waste stream. We're constantly looking at ways to get the phosphorus down and at the same time the EPA and the state keep lowering those thresholds that we have to comply with and the only way to take them out is through the process and the only by-product of the process is the select that we're trying to recycle. So about 40% or so would go to the farm and it's limited by the capability of the land to accept it. The balance of it would continue to go to Shattigan, New York or to look at other alternatives if we can through the district. What about company versus those? It's higher. It's higher. We're also looking at dryer technology. There's some newer technology. We had a sledge dryer in South Burlington. It might be another method to reduce the volume of this material if it becomes an issue. So the way in that application is about 30% cheaper than the other alternatives and the third option is I haven't gotten a price but from past discussions when they were bidding on the contract it was about a 10% increase and we generate 600 wet tons which is about 2,500 dry tons is about 2,500 wet tons and we're looking at about $400 to $500 a ton a dry ton for this stuff. So it's a big chunk of change. The whole process is about 400,000 plus a year operation on a $2 million budget. So we love to save a little money where we can and the farm is a good partner and a good neighbor and the trustees have supported that part of this as well with the open land that they may need. Absolutely. To win-win. Does anybody have any other questions? Seeing no other questions I will move them to authorize the unified manager to sign a contract for the land application of Biles Hall as well as North Wilson Cattle Company. I'll second that. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Anybody opposed? Great, Jim. Thank you for being here. And for those Raj and Amber if you haven't ever been I highly recommend chatting with Jim getting into our facility. It really is eye-opening. It's one of the biggest community investments so if you have time you'll be welcome to come. I'd love to. Sure. Just let us know. Thank you, Jim. So moving on to 6D the appointment of two trustees of the joint governance committee and Evan do you want to introduce us? Okay. The joint village board and select town select board several months ago created a governance subcommittee to go through a lot of the options that were presented as part of the research. Due to recent elections there are some new vacancies. The select board changed their membership around a little bit and they went through this process. You as the village board had the opportunity to choose two members to be on that select committee. And one of those members was George and I would like to ask George if this is something that you would be willing to continue? I absolutely would. It would be great. I'd love to do it. But on the other hand I'm also open to having a discussion about it. Since we have four of you I can't dominate it but we definitely need at least one new person. Can I ask one, just one question. Has the select board appointed any new members? Have they had a meeting to appoint new members? What have they done about it? They did. They appointed Max Levy and Andy Waugh. And the only reason I ask is that I know that Andy can only meet in the evening. Given enough notice he says he can try to work some things out. I just wanted to get the parameters there. And due to the fact that there are two brand new members on the select board and Miss Haney did not want to serve in that capacity. She has her hands full being a new select board chair and other roles. Andy was asked to step in and take that and he did. And then they selected Max for continuity as well. No, I would recommend that George if you will stand on the board. I think it's important as Evan was saying with keeping Max for continuity and just the background and the scope of knowledge and experience you bring to that where to bring in two new people you got to get back up to speed and get them to understand it. I just think it's a setback in so many ways. So I think it would be ridiculous for us to change that. I appreciate that you're in charge of that. Absolutely. And in terms of the other appointee I will say I'm interested but frankly given this new role the fact that I'm already chair of another committee I can't take on more evening commitments. So unless it were meeting during the day that I could possibly make that work but if it's any evening meetings I can't go and I wouldn't want that to delay this process at all. So I am truly curious if anybody else I'm curious on the meeting schedule that you know what Well one of the reasons we you know we had a bunch of reasons to have the subcommittee instead of having the full boards it just made it it boils the conversation down to four people instead of ten people so it moves things quicker and we're kind of under time pressure even though the date we want to have put a consolidation charter in front of the voters is still a year and a half off regardless you know everything drags and it's a month between meetings and so we wanted to do this to have four people and we also said it'd be great if we could have time to we met during the day we didn't have only evening meetings just to give us more flexibility it sounds like Andy is saying that he can meet with enough warning he can meet during the day doesn't have to be that I mean I Can we have to find during the day? we've had meetings at eight o'clock in the morning we've had one meeting in the afternoon you know it's just it's up to the four people on the subcommittee there's no real reason sounds like a silly question but I mean it's not somebody ranged they have ranged in time for about two to three hours roughly two it's just one of these things when you do a doodle poll like okay when are you waiting week next when you can throw the whole day and evening open it just opens up the possibilities that's all I'd be interested but I mean with my commitment for my work and I mean I'd give up a weekend you know for whatever an hour or two or whatever it takes I am interested in the board but I mean it wouldn't the days would be impossible with my schedule for work so that's any of you guys interested or are you thinking of it not up to me to make the decision I'm interested it couldn't always be day I don't think it would be I don't really have to move around but as long as it moved around they were only talking one or two times a month once a month they've they've met roughly once a month once every other month yeah but it's going to need to be a little bit more regular I'd say at least once a month so now we've got so just to sum up the meetings don't do this it sort of felt like that Tuesday of election night I was sitting at that meeting going how many meetings so we've got the two trustees meetings we've got potentially one maybe two joint meetings usually one joint meeting a month in addition to that definitely definitely one maybe two depending on where we're at maybe later in the process more like two and then that's at least once a month right you know the trustee yeah no well Dan I already have a meeting every month you three I'd say put it this way you three should decide I mean I well I it is the meeting schedule I'd rather see one of these two do it because I have a meeting every month with the regional planning and I enjoy that work but so if Amber or Raj like to step up at this point I have not entertained getting off of the capital committee so I have that additional commitment so I I don't want to jump into the government so I think that leaves you so civil elimination well let me put so another we make a joke that these are not lifetime appointments yeah in sitting through the governance subcommittees from the staff perspective the members will adjust they would like four to be there for every meeting sometimes there's only three but I believe almost every time there's been four and they will try to accommodate schedule so if it can't be let's say two in the afternoon but it can be three thirty in the afternoon they'll make it three thirty in the afternoon or four knowing that it's probably going to go at least an hour and maybe an hour and a half to they have been accommodating the other thing is if you try it out for X period of time and it just doesn't work you come back to the village board and say you're sorry but it's not working the other thing I would add is that it's email intensive in other words and because we can't have online email meetings so we might have a draft report then you know that I draft and then I send it to one other member that member edits it and sends it to another member so we have to go through this kind of awkward process it's very writing, editing email intensive that way because we we have a lot of between just a lot of documentation that flows around that we have all have to sort of come to agreement on but we have to obey the transparency rules and not have online conversation so there's a lot of email that goes on do we have the technology to do Zoom meetings offsite joining I don't know I'm not sure since I know about other types of you know online meetings but I haven't heard of that one I think I can make it work if there's flexibility we're going to say sorry oh no no no I wouldn't say anything okay I think I think I could try to make it work I'd hate to take it on and then come back and say I can't it's a fairly tight deadline for that so changing up midstream would be awkward when when meetings are at 81 main for sure we have the IT department that can help in with whether it's videoing in or something like that because that's for me my job typically ends at four but if it's a 330 meeting and I don't have to drive anywhere I can participate that way that opens up a world of you know so somebody else really wants it going once sounds like we've got Raj and George thank you okay sounds good sounds good before I move forward with emotion now Raj early yes she doesn't know yet she's watching a TV she doesn't know alright great great yes so I'm assuming do we need a motion to appoint the two you do would someone like to make a motion to approve Raj and George so moved and second second any further discussion? thank you both for stepping up thank you everyone thank you so all those in favor please signify by saying hi hi anybody post? okay great good luck no seriously thank you both so moving so moving on to the consent I'm just noticing on our agenda we don't have anything about a manager's report or trustee comments board member comments are under reading file I can go under there as well great so with the consent agenda is there a motion to I will make a motion that will you approve the consent agenda as presented second any further discussion? I would just make a note of minutes from our previous meeting as well as approving and attesting to the annual meeting minutes are a part of this as well the local emergency operations plan which is always interesting and I don't mean that really so no other discussion all those in favor please signify by saying hi hi anybody post? alright the consent agenda is unanimous going into the reading file and thank you Mr. Manager if we want to use this as a time for board of comments if there's anything that I'll make a comment I am just pleased to see both of you on this board I'm very very happy and I you know recognize Raj how many how many committees and things how much stuff you've been doing on behalf of the village and I just personally couldn't be happier to see you here thank you very much really good you too Amber that's it that's my comment alright does anybody have anything else? alright Mr. Manager just a couple things one welcome to Amber and Raj thank you for both stepping up and putting your name out onto the ballot it takes a lot to do that and then become part of this board so thank you for doing that couple of quick hitters the complete count for the U.S. Census we met with Bob Stock and lovely lady but basically the U.S. Census is right around the corner 2020 they met with staff they believe through their demographers that Essex has the dubious distinction of potentially having a 14% undercount because of our our populations and some issues of language poverty and other issues and so they come to communities and they look to partner with the municipalities and the agencies and leaders of the community to get to those segments of the population that are most likely to not answer the census and therefore be undercounted 14% of 20 to 21,000 people is a significant number if you take that and 10% of the state does get undercounted that would be 62 over 62,000 people you are not going to get another house of representative member that's going to be at over 750,000 but a lot of state and federal fundings are done by populations and groupings and stuff of that nature and so we have agreed from a staff perspective that we would like a count committee to select board agreed that that should be done we can bring Mr. Stock here and his staff but in general we can he could not be here tonight but in general he would love to come and explain the process to all of you and then also from a staff perspective we like to give them space that they need to do interviews they were here today doing interviews for staffing they are going to hire a lot of people on an interim basis you do work for the federal government you will have to pass some background checks but in general you can then have the federal government on your resume for those types of things they do pay decent and so we wanted to give them facility to be able to do certain things before they've actually had an office set up for the 2020 so that's going on I can answer any questions about that either tonight or in the future both boards have we've been bringing out the idea of having a strategic we're calling it advance not a retreat because we have this business in 2020 we are honing in on a date we did a doodle poll rise to your probably dismay you're going to have another meeting you're going to make it but it's got to be at a final place you're on the doodle poll we are looking at Saturday June 22 so please if you could put that on there we'd like as many if not all of the elected officials it's going to be from 8-3 where? at what is it called? the delta formerly trader dukes formerly trader dukes across the street from one jammer right there on the wall Saturday June 22 from 8-3 there's going to be coffee and pastries and then lunch we provided in the room is like right next to this courtyard so because it's going to be the nicest day of the whole summer and get sea outside and get sea outside and walk outside I'm already having dreams about it they're not good dreams they're not good dreams they're not good dreams it's a little bit of a nightmare yeah we're on camera so we'll tell you there but the general we also looked at the Essex and a couple other places the Essex was not available we are going to have as many of the department heads as we can have available as well and so therefore assuming 10 elected officials 17 or 18 of staff and then any of the public we needed a room large enough to be able to do that and maybe do some breakout stuff together so that worked out to be a very good and cost effective place thank you Sarah for doing that one last piece of information we did get news from Green Mountain Transit that the number four bus that they were looking to eliminate is not being eliminated this year it is being somewhat curtailed but it is not being eliminated and staff and the school district still want to meet with them about some options to figure out why they picked the hours of operation that they did and how to enhance that great so thank you so I would I will do my best to make a motion that we enter into executive session to discuss a real estate matter that having a discussion would put the community in undue risk or harm and invite our municipal manager anyone else? no she's the assistant manager the assistant manager to join in the discussion I'm sorry could I comment? one item on the agenda that it was 7A it was the fire truck that we were selling in this town I just wanted to clarify for $4,000 when we're selling that truck how much of that money that the town's buying from is our money going back into the village money I'm just curious the $4,000 when we buy something from the town isn't that I am a town resident so I'm buying something from myself or from the village the village is buying a portion of that truck as well correct? 42% 42% of that I just wanted to clarify sorry just for the record sorry that meeked out that I forgot to mention I just want to give that for this public hearing so there's a motion on the table I will second thank you any further discussion? all those in favor aye opposed great we want to adjourn for five minutes give to the camera and we'll change the energy staff is there