 What's up, internet? Andami nang tatanong for a 15k budget build and dito, sir, we're always trying to give you the best value dito sa videos and sa components na binibilinin ninyo. For that price range, you really want to go with a second hand. Mas value for money, yung second hand components. So ito na yung 15k budget build natin, the best possible value for money. In this video, we'll talk about number one, ano ba tung specs natin and magkano ba sila? Number two, where did we buy the second hand items? And number three, the critical mistake we did na nasayang lang pera namin, wala pa kaming budget build, but you can learn from our mistakes. Yun yung pinakamahalaga right after you learn about how to activate windows from our sponsor. Legit, safe, at pinakamura, madali na yung order. Hanapin ang windows version na gusto mo, piliin ang preferred paper and pencil. Wala pang 5 minutes na sizigit ka na para sa windows mo. Maraming na kaming na tunungan. Date? 7th departure ko? But now, I'm from a log of my life. Date, yung rese nulang purpose ang life ko. But now, I'm a world class Zumba instructor. So, web developer ako and content creator for a YouTube channel and ngayon ganun pa rin ako pero activated na yung windows ko. Kaya ako naghanap ka ng legit, mura, at original software. Check out cdkoffer.com. Check out cdkoffer.com. Check out cdkoffer.com. So number one, what are the specs and anong budget natin per component? We split the budget around the middle, around 7,000 for the GPU and 8,000 for everything else. Starting with the GPU, we got a gigabyte 1650 low profile. Bakit mahalaga yung low profile? At bakit mahalaga walang keilangan additional PCI-E power connectors? We'll get to that. But first, this costs 7,500 second hand. For a little bit more, you could get a card that's substantially faster. Let's say the 5500XT brand new from Asurix. A bit pricier but also faster. Pero kailangan natin tung specific na low profile card because our CPU is this guy, a repurposed office computer from HP, HP Protest. But it has an i5-10500, 1x8 of 3,600 RAM. Comes with its own hard drive. And the specs on this thing allow you to add on later. Pwede ka maglagay nung M.2 drive, pwede ka maglagay nung isa pang RAM because there is an additional slot. And so that's why the 1650 low profile was super important. So the advantages of getting a second hand office computer is number one, familiar to sa atin, maraming mga enthusiasts nagsimula dun sa kinakalikut nila yung office computers nila. Board sila sa trabaho. They're wondering anong nagtapower sa word codes, excel code. They start opening up, they start tinkering with it. So a lot of enthusiasts, yan yung origin story nila dito sa office computer. So it's something that's familiar to us. Number two, madalas na magpalit yung mga offices. So yung pagingventory nila, palit nung bago, disposed ka agad nung luma, maraming on the market na second hand. This guy only cost around 8,000 for an i5-10,500. Pero sobrang good deal yun. Our guy who does the second hand purchases, kabisado talaga nyo yung second hand market because before he was with hardware sugar, he would build computers and a lot of the builds were centered around that, yung mga nabibiling second hand items. Usually for around that price, 8,000 for an 8th or 9th gen, makuha mo lang yung unit. Ito, 10th gen, may kasama pang monitor, may kasama pang peripherals. Nakatulong talaga na yung nagbabantay dun sa second hand parts, kabisado talaga nya. It also helped na rush sale to. Paalis na yung seller, papunta ng abroad, gusto talaga nyan nang mabenta. And actually, sobrang in demand, kahit yung 8th and 9th gen at around 8,000 pesos. This is like the third unit, third or fourth unit that we tried to buy at that price range. Pero nabigu kami dun sa mga una kasi there were other buyers that would get them before us. Sobrang in demand. But we really struck gold with this one, i5, 10, 500. Tapos yung mahalaga dito, they're desktop components. So you could actually take the CPU and plop it into a standard desktop computer with a compatible motherboard. Gagana siya. The RAM used is also desktop. If you're looking towards the future, it is easy to upgrade. Yun yung isa sa mga lookouts na dapat bantayan mo. Because if you are looking to buy a second hand office computer also and modify it to a gaming computer, be sure that you get something that uses desktop components. May mga mini PC kasi na laptop components sila. So they're much harder to upgrade for. Generally, masabagali mga laptop components compared to their desktop equivalent. Kung bibili ka nalang yung second hand office computer, pwede naman tong maliit. Pero make sure na yung na sa loob pang desktop talaga. But that is also one of the drawbacks of getting the second hand computers. Yung OEM type or galing sa mga malaking brands like HP like this one, like Dell, proprietary or customized yung iba nilang components. So you'll notice the CPU cooler of this one is proprietary. They had to make it very small to fit into this small case. I've never in my entire life had to deal with this kind of hinge system na parang it pops out like this. So again, that's also custom. And that's why we needed a 1650 low profile. Kasi wala ka nang malagay na extra PCI-E power connectors dito. The computer simply doesn't have it. Kainit yung 24 pin niya dito nakihualay, splinit talaga nila, customized engineering for the specific layout and the PSU that they have here. So actually super interesting buying these second hand office type computers. May advantages, namely the price, namely na familiar ka, pero may disadvantages din because hindi sila standard, hindi to stock na mabibili mo off the shelf and mapapalitan mo ka agad. So you do need to do a lot of research when considering these types of setups. Number two, san namin nabilin yung mga to. All of these items were bought on Facebook Marketplace and that could be a scary place for a lot of us parang inisip natin puros camera lang yung FB Marketplace. And it's true, we had a customer before nabilin yung CPU. Mahal, usupan noon mga 11th Gen Ata, 11900 Ata nabilin niya. Tapos, fake pala yung CPU. When we were installing it, na-delid siya, din namin siya nasa jang i-delid. Na-delid lang siya. And if you've assembled computers, you know that that shouldn't happen. Nung chinek namin, pekit talaga yung die underneath. So parang yung markings lang sa exterior, 11900, pero pag nung na-delid siya, accidentally, nakita namin na hindi pala. So galit-nagalit si buyer dun sa nabilhan niya. So, buying second hand Facebook Marketplace can be scary, but for us, thankfully so far, wala apakaming bad experience. Two different sellers, iba nagbenta nito yung GPU chaka iba nagbenta nito yung Office PC. And both of them, we paid upfront without seeing the items. Kasi to be honest, medyo hasil pa kung pupunta pa tayo dun. If you're the one buying it for yourself, you may want to take the time to go to the seller and test it in person. Pero sa amin, okay na na pinavideo namin na gumaganan naman yung items, pinadalay yung video, look good, so we paid and then deliver. Pagdetay namin, we tested them and everything is good. In fact, while we were waiting, na una kasi itong GPU, we've been using this GPU extensively sa test bench namin, sa mga testing setups namin, so far nung problems. So I think the best way to approach buying second hand is with the proper mindset na yes, you need to be careful and do proper due diligence, but at the same time, wag ka masyadong matakot, wag naman masyadong unreasonable na lahat na lang inay-expect mo nung buyer. We'll ask for a video, seem to be good enough, we paid upfront, items got delivered, everything okay. A big factor in determining kung okay ba yung seller is kung responsive ba sila, okay ba sila ka usap, mararam naman naman kung scammer based on how they reply, kung puro benta lang inisit nila or they're very cavalier about their items, basta parang yung yun nila masyadong pinapansin yung mga detailed questions mo. So it's really a gut feeling. Is this a transaction that you think legitimate naman? But don't be scared to explore Facebook Marketplace and other forums kasi marami talagang good deals on the market. And again, like this one, 8,000 for an i5-10,500, may kasama ng monitor, may kasama pang peripherals. Really excellent find. Namahanap mo lang dun sa mga second hand. But number three, why is a rig still in pieces and ito yung crucial mistake namin, which you could also make. So yun nga, learn from our mistakes. It was such a great deal, pero hindi namin magamit kasi yung one problem is yung PCIe Slot niya nandito sa ilalim. Kung nandito siya sa medyo forward or mas malapit sa CPU, ka kasha pa. Pero since the PCIe Slot is here at the bottom, hindi na kasha yung card kaya at low profile. And our guy did everything possible. Chinak talagang yung specs, chinak talagang niya yung about this Pro Desk. But that's really the thing about buying these OEM computers. Undameng customized and undameng variants. They make it super confusing. This is a G7 Pro Desk, but you can easily find something that's named similarly. Pero di mo alam kung same generation, di mo alam kung future or past generation. Basically the OEMs don't care to label them properly. Kasi hindi naman talagang ito minimaintinans yung mga office computers. Benta, user five years, and then dispose. Bibilin nung mga big corporations, big offices, bibili ulit nung bago. And that's the way this OEM market works. They don't really care about labeling them properly. So doing proper research is really hard. How we could have avoided it was na may low profile card na kami, dadalin pa namin ni low profile card dun sa seller nitong rig. And then tatay namin isalpak, tatay namin ipasok yung GPU into the system. So actual hands on kong bagadun sa system. But really not plausible for our type now. We just wanted to get a decent video out of it. We'd have to send somebody over. And imagine this was like the fourth build that we tried to buy already. Imagine if we had to go to each one of them. It takes up a lot of our time. But our misfortune is your gain. You can learn from that mistake and you really need to be super careful when you're interested in getting one of these OEMs. Your advantage kanya is the price and the performance. I-5, 10, 500 at 8,000 pesos. Plus plus pa all of the other accessories. Such a good deal. But yung nga, may mga downsides din which you need to take into consideration. So sinabi ko at the start na this is our 15K budget build. But that was actually not really true because yung nga, din namin magamit tung low profile card dito sa rig. So what we're gonna do is we're probably gonna sell this. Mahahanap mo siya dun sa second hand list natin. Yung kagandahan yung second hand Google Sheet natin is that you don't need to deal individually with different sellers. Lahat yung nakakonsolidate. Tapas kausap mo lang kami hardware sugar. We'll take care about answering questions about the details of the second hand parts. We'll also take care about sending the money to the owners. We don't warranty them. But so far hindi pa kami naka problema kasi reliable naman yung hardware sugar customers only hardware sugar customers are allowed to post their items tung sa second hand sheet natin. So that's an additional factor na mapagkati walaan mo naman. Although to be fair yung nga, both of these items still good from their respective owners. If you're interested in a very good deal i5-10-500, we're gonna be listing this on our second hand list. It's working, we've tested it and we would really like to use it for the budget rig. Pero yung nga lang, there's no space to install a GPU. Definitely we need a GPU for the budget build because we're going for something all around. Yung desente sa gaming, desented na rin for any kind of office work and light editing that you need to do. So we'll be sad to let this go to be honest. It was such a good deal. But if it's something that you're looking for, you can find it on the second hand list. Even though nakalagay na kami ng labor, a lot of man hours went into checking into buying it into making sure everything was above board. We might just sell it for the price that we bought it at and if you're interested nandun yung sa second hand list natin, the link is in the video description below. So wala pa tayong 15k budget build, tulay pa rin yung experiment. But that's why we didn't jump into doing just a brand new 15k build kasi for me, boring yun. Price to performance, value for money, at that price point is in the second hand market. And yun, we'll be looking for another good deal that hopefully in the next video that we do for our 15k budget build, maggamit na natin tung 1650 in a rig that is at least around 9th gen or kung makaswerte tayo 10th gen rin siya. Till then, thanks for watching. Paminsan, tanong kumikilala ba kaming computer shop na trusted yung hindi ka-lolo ko hin? Actually, meron, kami. Full service PC store ang hardware sugar. Nagbabenta kami ng PC components. Nagbabenta rin kamin ng fully assembled rigs. We clean computers. Nasaman na rin yung excellent cable management namin and CPU cooler repasting sa cleaning. We also clean and repaste GPUs. Nasamakati yung physical store namin and you can also buy from our site, www.hwsugar.ph na 100% palaging up to date yung inventory dun. Kung instock yung item sa amin, available yung sa site. We also ship nationwide. Thanks for watching and maybe one of these days makita tayo sa shop.