 We also have another powerful woman of God right here in the studio with us. Hi, powerful woman of God. Hey, you're the powerful woman of God. Looking good, Karim Bustana on the show. It's so nice and lovely to finally have you here on this show by the way. It's your first time, right? No, it's my second time at Y254. My first time when I'm here. Yes, yes, with you. So it's such an honour to host you because you came with the lamb light to that song Salama and people wondering who is this lady? What did she introduce to you? Yes, she introduced me Zoe. Kwa ma panana ma refu, kwa details, you know. Alright, my name is Zoe. The other name is Phyllis. I'm born again. I'm a worship minister and a born again believer. I'm also a music artist and very much more a trained psychologist. And I'm passionate about women and about the mental health staff now that I did psychology, you know. And I try to combine all of those to my purpose. Yeah, I try to be brief. I can talk. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I'm a cs Townies to a born again. I'm like you're young and birth again. Inhbuna. Are you... Why? I don't know, I'm trying to frame that question of salvation. I'm not sure. And you being young. How have you been able to maintain a salvation at this time and age and we do music and also pursuing psychology. Yes. It's the whole point. The whole point of being born again when you are young is to get born again when you're young because you can have more time born again. So, I want to be able to do my purpose in God while I'm still here and to represent but I couldn't have learnt Apotea. My purpose is in God. So, if the time I'm outside I must go as dead. So, I'd rather be here and it's easy because it's not about me. It's him who helps me to be in him. It's the Bible that says it is him who is in us to will and to do. Yes. So, it's it's just easy when you you count on him. Pressure, can I rope here? Hey, Dapale Instagram. Unafanya salvation in a car. Because it is. So, when it's amazing you're looking salvation, salvation is shiny and glowing on you and I know wule kuja in lima ituliku jua mi personally. Wule kuja wu desong salama. Yes, you did a colabo with Rebekah Soki. Yes. How did that colabo come about? That colabo was organized by our manager, God. Okay, I was expecting that. I got it. So, I didn't know Rebekah much but our producers happened to be like very close friends. So, what happened is that I needed another voice to add to my backup and my producer Akasa Justiwa na producer Soki that Soki is a good vocalist she can pump into her, you know. So, when she came she was correcting a lot of French in my studio. So, I just asked Soki. I don't want to laugh. Check after session. So, I just asked her, wait, wait, wait, wait. Bono na juo French, more people. Because I wrote, actually wrote all that French. But she was correcting the accent. Yes, so I say something wrong line. She's like, usi se mehivio. I have you had Rebekah speak. Yes. Yes, usi se mehivio. So, I stopped her and she told me I'm from Congo and Nenekambia now look, we are sharing. And she is, she has a very beautiful heart. She just said yes and that's how the collab came to be. In studio. And inisha before that you used to sing, right? You had other song? Yes, I just had one. One that sometimes I had from people. But I know I can't hide so much from Yal. So, it's called Hakika. It's in YouTube. It's the first song I had done before Salama. So, that was 2013 and then in 2014 I did Salama. And you've done numerous songs. Powerful songs that I love. I love them. I love them. Fire. Washi pa. Moto. I'm like what inspires you to write songs? I spread those songs. All songs are kuzote. What really inspires you to write all those songs? The words, word by word. Word by word. So, what I'll say is most of my songs I'm a writer. If you tell me to write a song for you in one hour from here you'll get out of here with a song. But I don't like going that way because I feel like art is a cry of the spirit. So, I want to for something to ban me so much those songs that you love there are songs that I sometimes hate hearing. Because Niki Skiza I remember so many things and I'm like oh my god what was happening at that time or like wawanananya was very angry and nilikwani mella kwa ground ya ya high school. Someone had gotten me so mad with identity and I was like god just tell me where. Salama I was in another crisis. So, I feel like music for me is inspired better when it springs from my heart without me having to take a pen and a paper. And it's good for me to note maybe to mention that I don't have a book. I have never had a book for my music ever I just write whatever comes nase ma gaili li potia ili li kam rana song zile tamu zi kumkwa bafi ikianda siyangu ikiru dindoya I depend on inspired music. Ya, and you come on from what I'm getting from you is that kila song ikona story ya every song has a story behind it. Now fast forward you've done music and the other day you are celebrating your birthday I should say happy birthday to you. Thank you so much. But the man took hisonga. Yes. And you know you usually have a tradition here on JCC kwa ba bak diya kwenu na klitea keki but it's fine. We'll get back to us. Let's not put a memo. The president so much to do it again. Do it again. Do it again. Just say ma. Yes. As you were celebrating your birthday you launched something very interesting. The Mindful Woman. Tell us more about this. Mindful women for those if you're an artist mindful It's not mindful with a single L. It's mindful. English police hello Mindful Ya zina kili meja. Kuna ilia kili meja na kuna ilia ya niko mindful na kum mindia. So I wanted to mix both meanings to bring out what we are about because Mindful women is about women who are smart, innovative women who want to do amazing things who want to explore their intelligence and the fullness of your spirit and who wants to break a limit and also it is about women whose minds are actually like literally full and they want to offload because hey sisi wanawake we can speak for ourselves maybe men can't relate but our minds can be full tuna itangwa oba thinkas na siku penda na ya kili imeja abo ko oba thinkas So tuna umbamsamaha to all the men now a lady sedition representing tuna umbamsamaha siku penda lakini that's our strength if you look at it like that we are able to bring a change to this generation because we can overthink good things we can overthink good things and I know she's attached to there is mental health attached to that identity crisis I can from what you are I'm gathering from you it's something that you're passionate about so much have you gone through that because you know this May the month of May we are celebrating mental health awareness so is it something that you've gone through as a woman well this is the first time mentioning this publicly please so drum the roll there we go our mental health victor our mental health victor yeah yeah yeah God did it for me I struggled with depression I struggled with suicide I had several attempts failed attempts because God said no Masi said no I'm not gonna let you go so I remained here and my healing was miraculous it was not therapeutic though I'd like to mention that I was really saved by Celica Dot she connected me with therapists and stuff so I managed to be on my feet and then God did his miracle this story is very long I will be sharing it very soon the whole of it but I'm a victor from mental health and every time I see a woman struggling you see because now men is another whole different story but now with women the generation I mean the society knows that we are strong so when you are just strong and you go through something someone sees you crying kwa na kia na liya nga tu kwa na kia na iza liya juni bati ake kwa na iza liya jupaka ya kei memeza fish bone kwa na kia na iza liya tu so when someone sees you crying because you're depressed they don't get it they don't see how dangerous it is and we can be dramatic so when you are being like I'm tired of life people just take it lightly and I know I experienced insensitivity when someone tells me probably you're just seeking attention you just want to find someone to you know pampa you and you're not ready for that so all of that is close to my heart because I know what I went through and I would like to be there for everyone else who's going through that wow a good initiative and actually there is these are many groups of women so there are young women there are single mothers who maybe they have they have something they want to say but they cannot say it in this society so now we want to get it out we want you to express yourself so that we can help you feel what you're feeling these women who go through postpartum depression who do you tell that I'm having a baby and I'm depressed because I'm having a baby so people don't have that knowledge so we want to bring it to light so that we can join our women and I know when our women are healthy trust you me we don't have the same state to not change CC water alright and then I know there's an event connected to Wife for Women tell us more about the event alright so we're having this event called women at a table we're going to tell you a story what are you bringing to the table we're bringing ourselves you're a whole package or we can sell the table we'll sell the table and you know what I'm saying we are the table yes we are the table or we will go to the beach without a table alright I'm planning to sell the table is that the theme or the title of the event and how are you approaching it the event is women at the table this is where we want to come together and discuss things that are important to us and I felt that passive income you see the Bible says that money answer all things and there are times kuna time tuzi na kujanga we ni dem umesive pesa tu visuri but your baby has become sick accountiote clean your husband and his wife are clean but there are things we can do about income and that is what is called passive income actually passive income is income that you earn without working and investors know that too well any good investor any billionaire will tell you that they got where they are through passive income because all of us have 24 hours and there is no way you can overwork yourself together but you can make things work for you when you're not there and that's how you can grow so one time you will be pregnant and you need to sleep all day as you think about ice cream and chocolate and chocolate you know and maybe you're having a problematic pregnancy probably you're having depression but your kids don't have to suffer because of that we're speaking to men too but right now we're focusing on women so I would also like men to come through support your women pay for this event for your women and then let the women bring that intelligence there's something we call gender intelligence and this means that there are things that men have that women will never have at a window and vice versa there are things women have that men need to depend on so sad things like this when your woman be invested on and then you let depend on her let her bring that to the table okay look forward to that that's the amazing thing that you're doing and we commend you for that when is the event and how can people attend how can people reach you because whatever you're doing is really great thank you so much I appreciate that encouragement so what we have is the 11th of June that's what we have so far more details are coming through our social media handles mention them on Instagram we are at Mindful Women at Mindful Women that's a double L at Mindful Women our website is MindfulWomen.com okay yeah you can check us out there you can email us or contact any number you see there as for the details but follow the posts and the poster with details is coming up soon it is an international event so you will be learning from the best of the best come collect your intelligence you know and interact with the good people you get chances to ask questions and because sometimes you think Chama is the last part of us Chama Natua 50 Bob Kilaweeki una patiwa 300 around you know but there is more to this sawa sawa and your social as well my socials are at zoe underscore music underscore at Instagram my YouTube is zoe music you can find me anywhere there alright any shout out salam to anyone this afternoon oh yes salam oh my god my workmates atasasema na wakwa piko sababu hi shout out to y'all nisi nili niza niza jipata nime kwa live leo wingi uku so shout out to y'all and specifically my mom a big shout out to you this woman never gives up on me and that's why I say one hour kwa investiwe this woman will never see me down ana nibuta ngambaka na kasi rika kwa nino na nibuta sa sabasi so she's so supportive shout out to you my whole family and every friend who has been supportive to me and especially the whole time of my mental struggle and my healing right now I'm also having a team working on the mindful project nix here is a very very major stand I appreciate him so much and then I have our manager Anitwa Antonio Sibi shout out to him empowered women yes looking forward to that event I know you're going to bless us with my favorite nisi nili my favorite salama ok thank you so much we do come back again thank you so much and we commend you for the great job that you're doing God bless you ok I was glad to be here thank you