 Okay, good evening everyone. Welcome to tonight's common council meeting to the public welcome And as we always do before we start our meeting we ask our city clerk to read the quote for the week Thank you, ma'am. You can stand tall without standing on someone you can be a victor without having victims Thank you very much Call the fourth things regular meeting of the common council's order. Please call the roll Born Gisha excuse Hannah Heidemann Kittlesen Clowness Manny excuse Meyer Montemay or Rindflash Ryan Smith Excuse me Vanderwheel for hassled excuse and Wongamon 13 present Quorum is present It's time to pledge your allegiance to the beautiful country we live in all of my argument. Would you please lead us sir? I? Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands One nation under God Indivisible with liberty and justice for all Thank you all when one win next item on the agenda is approval of the minutes president Hannah Thank You mr. Mayor. I make the motion to approve the minutes motion and second to approve under discussion There be a non all-in-favorite say aye any opposed motion carries minutes are approved Resignations attorney McLean. Thank you, your honor. The first one is from Alan Hendrickson Who's on the was on the board of water commissioners? advising that he moved to Shpoig and falls and would be resigning from With the water commissioners board as for motion to accept and file President Hannah, mr. Mayor. I'd make a motion to accept and file second motion and second under discussion There is none all in favor say aye any opposed Motion carries resignation accepted The letter dated September 26th of this year from Ernest M. Kepler Advising the mayor that he's resigning from the Shpoig and redevelopment authority due to conflicting schedules and an upcoming Double knee replacement surgery in motion to accept and file President Hannah, thank you, mr. Mayor. I make the motion to accept and file second motion and second Under discussion all of them about thank you, mr. Mayor just like to wish mr. Kepler a speedy recovery He's a he's he participates in a lot of comings and goings of the city And we appreciate his work and hope he can come back soon. Thank you very much. Holden boat president Hannah You know I had two knees replaced myself, and I was back on the handball court in two months. So it's pretty weak Michael he's probably watching us we have a motion to accept resignation any further discussion all in favor say aye Any opposed motion carries resignation accepted It's communication from Alderman Hannah to the mayor. Please accept my resignation from the group insurance committee The emotion to accept and file Vice-president Warren our motion to accept and file Second Oldman Ryan she went says just second. Yes, mr. Mayor if I may thank you Ryan I'm going to vote against Alderman Hannah resigning from the insurance committee. He's put a lot of work into this committee He is our insurance expert on this council It's not very often that we get people that are so well suited to a certain issue such as insurance and mr. Hannah and his expertise So I'm going to give mr. Hannah my vote of confidence by voting against him resigning from the insurance committee I don't think that the grounds of his resignation Are valid to start with us. I guess there was There was a question about possibly some some personal conflicts, etc Which simply are not valid So I myself I'm going to not allow mr. Hannah if I have my decision to resign from the insurance committee We need him on that and I hope others would do the same. Thank you Thank you. We have all in bulk next. Thank you, your honor. I would echo Alderman Ryan's Request of the fine men and women of this council Alderman Hannah has served honorably. He's a man of great integrity We all know that to be the case and we need him to continue his service on that So I too will vote no and not not to accept this resignation. See me. Thank you, your honor Thank you all in both all the vice president born Thank you, your honor. I made the motion only for the sake of discussion. I'm also also going to vote against The resignation I've seen firsthand. I've been attending all of the insurance committee meetings I've seen firsthand of the quality of Alderman Hannah's work on this committee And I know all of the countless hours that he spent behind the scenes and I'm very grateful that for that time that he spent Thank you Well, I'm Hannah given all that you've got one more probably gonna say the same thing No Would you reconsider sir? At this juncture, why don't you let them vote? Okay, very good. Holden van der wheel Thank you, your honor. I was gonna echo what everybody else said, but I was also gonna say that Alderman Hannah knows what's best for Alderman Hannah. So He made a decision to resign so I will stick with his decision unless he would change his mind publicly Okay, and Or Discussion okay, we will call the vote on the motion on the motion to accept and file the resignation of Alderman Hannah and a group health insurance committee And there's no more Do you want a roll call? Please call the roll and then an aye vote would be to accept in a file his resignation A no vote would be not to accept the file. Okay bulk Hannah Heidemann Kittlesen Clowness Meyer Montemay or Rinfleshe Ryan Smith Vander wheel Wongamon Born no Two eyes and 11 nose Motion carries. Oh, Hannah. You're stuck. God. You stuck Okay Motion fell so I still Letter to the mayor and counsel dated October 9th from Mark summer advising that He's resigning from the Labor Management Committee and the Health Insurance Committee as representative of local 5011 city professionals employees Motion to accept and file President Anna I'd make the motion to accept and and file and also to thank Mark for his service second motion and second We've more discussion There's not all in favor say aye any opposed motion carries and for appointments I've got dated October 15 Thereby submit the following appointment for your consideration David gas to be considered for appointments the redevelopment authority to fill the unexpired term of Ernest M. Kepler whose term expires for 3011 signed by the mayor that will lie over Mark safest to be considered for appointments a group health insurance committee as the employee representative for me public library with the term expiring 430 08 That one will lie over The special committee on regulation on sidewalk cafes Alderman Wongamon Clowness Bulk Dennis Radke Doug Pelner and then non-voting members Chuck Adams assistant city attorney lieutenant David Schaffhauser in the police department Steve Salkalowski city planner all Appointed 10-1507 terms to expire 12-11-07 signed by the mayor that one lies over to That it Thank you, vice president born Thank you, your honor on the document that attorney McLean just read For the special committee on regulation of sidewalk cafes that set to expire 12-11 and if that lies over it's gonna lie over until our first meeting in November Which the original intent was to give the committee about 45 days and I talked with Alderman Wongamon here And that is going to be cutting it pretty short. There is a document in here tonight from law and licensing Approving the committee. I would kind of like to suspend the rules on this and vote on it tonight if possible Just to keep the flow of the committee going Usually can we appoint before the committee is created? Thanks, oh you need to pull or pull the document before this but you need to either pull the document before this But you can't confirm okay before you have your document, okay? so if I pull the document later on in the meeting is that going to be okay then or the Motion to I mean the Where are we now? We're right now. We're in mayors appointments at the last document Yes, so he can now make a motion pool other documents forward. You need to pull the other documents forward All right, we need to move on that Which one that which way out of the city clerk do you remember what document that was right that would be 1432 it's a resolution right I believe Yep, can I make a motion then that resolution be put upon its passage motion and second put resolution upon its passage That's creating the temporary committee Under discussion Alderman Rindschlash Thank you, sir mayor, but part of clarification. We need suspension. I'm sorry before we do this for you're right We need to suspend the rules I Would move to suspend the rules second motion second is there any objection to spend in the rules There being none now your motion to put the resolution upon its passage Your honor I moved to put the resolution upon its passage and a second under this further discussion There being none all in favor say aye Oh Yes, I was just wondering why can't the current committee with the whole of the city attorney take this on To that thanks, okay, I'm gonna ask Vice President boring to respond Thank you, and thank you for the question Alderman St. Kittleson This was taken up at the last law and licensing committee last Tuesday. We had some public input, but the the committee felt that with the amount of Questions about the proposed ordinance that it would be better to step back and let a separate committee of interested parties Including two business persons who will be affected by the ordinance have their input And we just thought that we could not dedicate enough time in the committee to go over the ordinance again, and so that's why We wanted to establish the special committee Okay, president Hannah And I just wanted to mention I was going over that list and I appreciate the work All the person born is put in to put together a good cross-section. It's an important issue and It also reflects how well the council can work. It was an issue that was going to get hot and People decided to pull it aside and study it more thoroughly. That's excellent Thank you, president Hannah. Thank you. Mr. Mayor Specifically while we have three voting members are alderman two voting members are Just to reiterate what Alderman Boren had said are actually business owners who currently have sidewalk seating as well one of which will be Someone who has one that's a establishment that serves alcohol and one is not so both Establishments we heard clearly Who deal with the businesses every day pay their bills? Advertise market gig clients and there are things that I do not deal with in that committee So the reason why I'm asking for their input is because they know their business is better than I do And I would much rather have them work with us and establish these ordinances and then us dictate to them So that's why I'm definitely in support of bringing on those business owners on to the subcommittee as well And I also like to point out that it is a short term Committee hopefully we'll get the information gathered quickly so we can act upon that before next summer rolls around Then we'd have either regulation established or not But we have a decision made before that's people know what they can and cannot do with their businesses. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. I want to replace any further comments all in favor say aye Any opposed? Motion carries now. I need a motion to suspend the rules to make the point I need a motion to suspend the rules to accept the appointments It's a second second any objection to Suspending the rules there be a non. I need a motion to confirm the appointments Motion to confirm the appointments Motion and second any discussion There be a non all in favor say aye. I any opposed motion carries appointments are confirmed. Thank you very much It's next item on the agenda is recognition of awards to city of Sheboygan and There's three awards that I just want to point out to you that are Important and if you have any specific questions, I'd like to direct you to Frank Calco He's the one that attended the meeting and is is more knowledgeable about the awards and they have to do with our efforts to to Improve our risk management programs and thereby provide good quality service to our employees safe Environments and so forth and at the same time save the city and the taxpayer money and the first one that they awarded was a 20 years of service with Siphmick and that stands for cities and villages a mutual insurance company It's the same company that we we work with to be self-insured So we've been with them for 20 years and it's a heavy piece of glass folks It's a recognition here The second one is an award that was given to the city of Sheboygan because it has demonstrated excellence and creativity in the development of an original risk management and loss control operational best practice in Sharing this idea your community has earned a 2007 significant program award for developing and producing an effective learning tool for employee safety training and Again, it's a good recognition for our community. The second one is Because Sheboygan has demonstrated excellence in compliance with recommended risk management and loss control operational best practices Is set forth in Siphmick's risk management assessment process and it has earned the 2007 award of excellence a silver award. So I think The city deserves a round of applause for that Thank you very much the next Recognition will be to mr. Ed suric and I'd ask that he step up And we have an award as you know Ed has decided to retire to go enjoy life like some point. I wish I can do myself and We wanted to recognize him tonight for faithful and dedicated service to the city of Sheboygan director of human Human resources and labor relations from 1999 to 2007 Edward V sir Thank you Can't loss of words over here, but thank you very much this Wednesday I do appreciate the opportunity to have served the city of Sheboygan. It's a great city It's got a lot of great employees dedicated employees. I think which make it what it is and again, thank you very much I appreciate it next item on the agenda is Public forum madam, please clerk First on the list is Tom Bowers if mr. Bowers could come up, please Remind me to speak. I'm mr. Bowers. Could I before you start? Could I get your home address, please? 21 20? North 36th Street, North 36, and you will have five minutes, sir. Thank you City manager mayor city administrator and mayor What form of government is best for the city of Sheboygan? The Sheboygan County taxpayers Alliance Would like to invite all citizens including the mayor council members and citizens of Sheboygan County To attend our free public forum Monday, October 22nd in the urban middle school auditorium The time will be from 730 to 830 Speakers Ed Henshaw executive director of the Wisconsin City County Management Association Gary Rogers While pond city administrator the Sheboygan County taxpayers Alliance Neither advocates or endorse any forms of government This is strictly for an information period and we would appreciate if people would Attend if there are any questions regarding This forum You may call me at four five seven Five seven nine seven Thank you. Thank you mr. Barnes Next would be Henry Capitillo, and I don't see mr. Capitillo here. Is that it? Yes, okay Thank you for addressing the common council Next time on the agenda is the mayor's comments, and there's three things I'd just like to share with you today the first one being white cane safety day second comments just a few comments on the budget because we're not quite done with that yet and then progress on some of the city projects The white cane day is a day that governor Doyle has proclaimed as white cane safety day in the state of Wisconsin In the state there are approximately 200,000 visually impaired people and over 20 who are blind or half substantial vision loss People with visual impairment want to live an independent and productive productive life in our community And in order to do so typically use a travel aid usually a service dog or a white cane People who operate motor vehicles Must and should be familiar with state law and be on the alert for the visually impaired walking Around in our city State law requires all motorists to stop while a pedestrian is in the crosswalk It requires motorists to stop while people walking with white canes or service animals were still in the curb State law also requires that motorists stop even if the person with the white with the cane or dog is violating the pedestrian law in other words give them full pledge respect and Also, let's be mindful there are neighbors with vision problems every day That they have vision problems every day not just one day So if we're going to observe the white cane safety day Let's do it every day and be careful. Thank you Comments on the budget. We're at a point here where the budget has the executive review of the budget has gone Before all the standing committees tonight Those are a part of committees that pertain to the budget will go to the finance committee At that point the finance committee will review the budget May or may not make changes as they seem as they deem appropriate and then that budget comes back to the Common council on November 5th We have a public hearing on the 6th and then another public hearing on the 19th and And I'll say that again the six the six we publish the notice of the public hearing when the 19th is A public hearing on the proposed budget now that public hearing is being done before The public hearing on the same day that the budget is approved And that is being done in response to people asking us to allow them some time to come in and address as if they desire Before at least a week or so before we approve the budget in the past We would have the public hearing the same night we passed the budget and for some reason or another Which is obvious to me people didn't like that. They wanted to have some time to address us Again, they may or may not come but if they do they have plenty of time to do you have plenty of time to Incorporate their thoughts and their wishes into your actions as a common council And then on November 26th, we will have a special meeting to adopt the 08 budget. That's when the budget gets approved as We stand now and that is with the As the budget stands now with with all the requests that were made all the deductions that were made during my executive review and Some of the new numbers that have been plugged in as a result of the work that has been done with the group health insurance committee and the work that has been done by Alderman Hannah and Alderman Gisha with the Early retirement incentive Program as it stands now if we were to plug in all those numbers all those Revenues and expenditures over on the revenues. We we would still be 201,527 in the hole that is a number that's still manageable that we can work with when it goes to finance department Now I say that with a caveat and that is that by plugging in those numbers and having the two thousand two hundred and one thousand numbers there were 14 City employees that took early retirement. There was four in the police department five in fire and five in public works that amount That total amount for those 14 people Will no longer be an expense on the O8 budget in the amount of one million two hundred seven seven hundred and seventy seven thousand That's what is a call savings in our case but If we reduce that amount the savings by the amount of the retirement incentive there We're going to have to pay the council has two choices You can borrow the money and pay interest which I don't recommend or you take it directly out of that savings That amount will be five seventy five hundred and seventy seven thousand ninety one dollars That leaves you a balance of six twenty three six hundred twenty three thousand six hundred and seventy eight dollars That's a savings Provided and you must understand is provided that you don't hire anybody else to replace those fourteen people If you do it starts chiseling away from that amount So that is a challenge that the finance committee is going to have to look at And make a determination as to how it wants to do with it. I may and it's within my options I may just have another executive review of the budget myself To to make some further recommendations to to the department heads so that we can comply with some of these numbers Now the early retirement plan was an effect a plan to to save money for wage budget and a way to perhaps Add additional people in some departments that really needed some additional people But you have to understand that right now we're going with no increase in the levy I mean no increase in the tax rate, which doesn't give us a lot of money there So we don't have a lot of more revenue. The other thing that happened since is that I our Revenue sharing we had anticipated although we didn't plug that number in hoping that we would get it because we were told it We were an additional two hundred thousand dollars in revenue sharing Well, it turns out the last I hear although the budget hasn't been played past at the state We're getting about a hundred and eighty one thousand dollars less So that has been added to to the dilemma the fiscal dilemma that we have we've looked at every Nook and cranny as to how we can find money Folks there is no money we get our money from the levy the people no longer want to be taxed. I Had said that publicly and in a meeting during the council meeting and I said it publicly to the newspaper That I was hearing people I was no longer hearing people Concerned about the taxes going up Well, guess what they are because they started calling me they are calling as soon as I said that the phone rang the emails popped up So they are concerned our two major sources, which is a little over eighty five eighty six percent of our budget Come from revenue sharing and the levy And so I just said people don't want to pay more and we're not going to charge them or and the levee is not increasing It's decreasing our expenditures are increasing regardless of whether our revenues are or not And that's the fiscal dilemma that we are faced with tonight and that the finance committee is faced with In the coming week and that I have to deal with in one way or another so that we can be responsive to the people's pleas For less Texas or no more taxes The next item that I'd like to talk about Would be the some of the progress on the projects that we were handling as you know we had a groundbreaking ceremony for for grand stay and It was just phenomenal. There is a lot of people there The some of the projects that we've worked on in 07 North 9th Street was converted to a two-way traffic 7th Street will be following We have a 1.2 million Dollars of road resurfacing and reconstruction already completed. It's money that has gone back into the community We have a hundred and twenty thousand dollars of sidewalk repair that has been completed We have 50% of the river boardwalk Completed if any of you have a chance to go by there go check it out. It looks pretty neat. It looks really really nice We've lined 220 thousand dollars worth of sanitary sewer pipes We've completed the restroom at the large yacht utilities for South Pier We've completed the end park splash pad that was done this summer We had great response from the from the neighborhood there We've completed the sanitary sewer extension for the police department that's where we had to connect from Superior all the way to the police department the police station location the new one The laterals were already already installed there And we've in process of completing the design for Indiana Avenue from 14th to 17th Street and that construction is scheduled to start July 2008 and Then we've completed the promenade along The north side of the Subwagon River and in 2008 we have other projects that I'll be talking to you about there We'll be working on and then the other one I just wanted to give you a heads up on and this a lot of credit is extended I would like to extend a lot of credit to President Hanna and all of them Meyer is I Got an email today from the neighborhoods and in the north side There was that had concerns about the Walgreens going in the location where it was going and is of today I understand the issue has been resolved and the Walgreens can be developed can be built there. So that's a great accomplishment It's a great example of our neighborhoods Alderman like president Hanna and all one Meyer can work with the neighborhood and Planning department and the Common Council because it's coming before us It's a great example of how things can be worked out to the end to the best centers of all the parties involved On the insurer on the I've got two more things for you on the budget. I need to say something that's very important and and that is that the the early retirement incentive program and the Insurance going out and shopping for insurance for a different insurance companies going to save us Not quite one point five million dollars, but around over a million dollars That would not have been accomplished had not been for the hard work of president Hanna and And Alderman Gisha and I believe I some of you other alderman's have had some input I'm not quite sure who but I know that president Hanna and Alderman Gisha as was mentioned earlier Put an incredible amount of time into those two particular projects to bring some relief to our budget deficit And because of their efforts it worked And I would like to extend my thanks to you president Hanna, and I'm glad they kept you there I hope if you try it again, they'll keep you again. Okay? And at this point, I'd like to introduce to you our new public works director. Mr. Bill Bidner, which please stand up sir Welcome to a team Mr. Bidner comes to us with extensive public works department public works experience today he hit the ground ground running so fast he stumbled and He's ready to go and he's I think he's had his tours He's gonna be learning and listening and learning has I think he said for a couple of weeks So mr. Bidner welcome to city of Sheboygan welcome to our team okay, then Moving along we have a Public hearing notice that an ordinance will be acted upon this evening for the vacation and discontinuance of a portion of North 24th Street North of North Avenue, and this is the vacation of the little sliver of land That's between the residential home and the the car dealership there for the Walgreens project We're not acting on it. We're simply having the public hearing to give people an opportunity to speak Is there anyone that would like to address the council with respect to that project? Please sir, please come to the podium and so can I have your name, please mark lake from emered Cummings? Can you spell your last name l a k e l a k e that's easy and from where? Our office is in Waukesha, okay, and we're talking about the Walgreens at Calumet North Okay, and can I have the business address please w 228 and 745 West Mound one word Drive, okay, Waukesha, okay, five three one eight six Okay, go ahead. Thank you You may want to pull the mic up if it's not working right. Do you want to speak right into it? As emered mentioned and thank you very much for those comments mayor We are proposing a new Walgreens at the intersection of Nash of North Avenue and Calumet in Northwest corner and over the last six months we've been working with the neighbors and and working with the staff on its proposed development and Most recently have been trying to narrow down the scope of the project and part of that scope Requires that a section of North North 24th Street be vacated so that The our development can basically fit on the total commercial piece Originally it didn't fit as part of the total commercial piece. It went into the residential neighborhood immediately to the west and then concerns were brought up by the neighbors and We talked to the neighbors. We talked to staff. We had a couple meetings several meetings and I think we've come to an amicable solution and And as a result we're not no longer taking any of the single-family residential homes And we're only really looking here for the vacation at 24th Street And having said that 24th Street It's not upside down 24th Street runs north-south and as part of our requirement. We were required to go through and get A 1-third of the signatures of 24th Street from where we want to vacate it Which is just north of North Avenue all the way down to Geel Avenue. I hope I spelled that right And what we received is 72% of the part of the parcels on that property And so our request is to vacate 24th Street leaving Leaving the single-family properties alone to the west Thank you Thank you very much. Is there anyone else that would like to address the council? Is there anyone else? Is there anyone else President Hannon? Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'd make a motion to close the hearing second motion the second to close hearing under discussion There is none all in favor say aye Any opposed? Motion carries here is closed Consent agenda items 14 1 through 14 21 President Hannon Thank You mr. Mayor. I'd make a motion to accept and adopt all ROs and accept and file all our seats, but also I'd like to refer 14 17 back to public works Okay, second motion and second to Accept the consent agenda and refer back 14 dash 17 back to public works Motion is second under discussion Under discussion the reason that the public works is it's been referred back to public works is there's a little discrepancy there with The time and the public works committee would like to look at it again, and they'll it'll come back to us There's no there's no time of the essence right now all about thank you honor I'd just like to get my two cents in here We'd like to see that in district 2 we'd like to see that property put on the market and sold and that those that house Start generating income for the city. We think such a pristine well located property like that ought to be generating Generating money for us. Thank you element about thank you Any further discussion? There being on please call the roll Hanna Heidemann Kittlesen Clayunas Meijer Montemayor Rinflesh Ryan Smith Vanderweel Wongamon Warren and bulk 13 eyes motion carries communications and petitions 1422 to 1425 to be referred report of officers to 1426 by the board of parks and forestry commissioners who met and discussed number 370708 By alderman verhasselt hannah clayunas Regarding public work studying the cost and capabilities of the security cameras for the use in various city parks Recommends that three security cameras be installed at various parks king roosevelt and potentially workers water street park Funding will be with qualified block grant money and the public works budgeted funds on other cameras alderman Meijer Thank you, your honor. I moved that the resolution be put upon its passage Motion and second To accept and file the report committee. Okay under discussion. Oh, I'll let them about Thank you, your honor. No, I was a couple of steps behind you on 1422. Should that also be referred to the newly formed special committee? Since it has to do with sidewalk cafes That can be Alderman president by president I have no objection to that alderman bulk If it goes on to law and licensing next Tuesday, I was going to make that report from there. Okay. Very good. Thank you Alderman clayunas I'm I'm speaking to to resolution 1426. Are we ready to do that? Okay. We're in the discussion Yes, uh, I just was wondering why these parks were chosen. Uh, do you have some background for us? Alderman Hit your light. There you go. Alderman Meijer. Thank you, your honor. Um, I would like to open the floor to commissioner Montemayor who is the chairperson of the park and forestry committee commission And he would have a lot of information that alderman clayunas is asking for Motion and second to open the floor any discussion All in favor say aye. Aye any opposed Motion carries mr. Montemayor citizen montemayor, would you please come up podium? Thank you Alderman clayunas this uh As you know, this has gone through a lot of committees went through public works. They looked at the cost And one of the things that we is we studied is where we have the most vandalism in these parks King park is highly vulnerable So was Roosevelt in park Workman's park The recommendations come came through that committee Our recommendations were after they got done with it was a deal referral Came to the commissioners To put this information together then recommend Trying to use as much grant money as we could The parks that do qualify for this are king park Uh, Sheridan park, I believe it and coanas park as you know Workman's park is very close to coanas park and underneath that bridge Is where we have a lot of vandalism and you know, that's And that's also the place we have a water park or a water feature park It's as you well know now that we have equipment that we installed in Sheridan park We see more parents people in that park They kind of police it's that's a c2 park so that we don't have a lot of trouble there But we do have the trouble is it in part Roosevelt park and king park those are the big three ones. We get this report from our public works Directors Those are the people we go with that and I've also studied this all through the summer to see what kind of vandalism goes on There's mostly anywhere somebody can hike which are the bathrooms. That's where they have the most problems I hope this can answer to help answer your question Okay, we have one more citizen. We have old man venerable Thank you, honor Being in the district that end park is in I just would like to ask What's the reason why end park's not on the list? Why are they drop out? Okay, here again, we're trying to use Block grant money that doesn't qualify There's that now, but if we were to get the council to get us some money for that park That would be an excellent way to start those that park especially that park But now that that we have that water feature in there you have a lot of parents Little kids that come into that park they kind of police Themselves out there and the little kids the kids that are given the trouble there Kind of move out of the way then okay when you see parents, sir, you'll see that kind of trouble move away Did I answer your question sir? Yeah, thank you anybody else? Okay, thank you Appreciate it. Thank you Okay, we have a motion on 14.26 to accept and file All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed motion carries. I will I think Been advised I think it's uh It would be appropriate to go ahead all vice president boron to I'll refer 422 to special committee to first expediency. So thank you all in bulk Uh make a notation 14 22 will go to law and licensing city plan And special committee on cafes. Thank you very much moving on 14 27 through 14 30 to be referred Resolutions introduced 3 14 31 by olement montemayor Supporting the intent of shaboydon county to apply for a state comprehensive planning grant olement montemayor Thank you, your honor. I move the resolution be put upon its passage Motion and second under discussion There being none all in uh, please call the roll Hannah Heidemann kittleson clioness mire montemayor rinflash ryan smith van der wheel wangaman boron in bulk 13 ayes motion carries 1432 by olement boron wangaman Clioness and rinflash Established in a special committee. Oh, yeah, we did that never mind done 1432 is done carried forward 1433 lies over 1434 and 35 to be referred report of committee seven 1436 By committee of the whole to whom was referred a copy of rc number 126 0708 And pursuant to resolution number 300 0607 by olement verhassel boron and hannah Authorizing the motor vehicle review committee to study and report back to the council on the potential use of some portion of the motor vehicle fund Who made various recommendations the committee of the whole recommends accepting and adopting the report of committee and makes a favorable recommendation olement meyer Thank you, your honor. I move that the report of committee be accepted and adopted Motion and second under discussion Attorney McLean be So I understand the committee whole is recommending that The report of committee Should not the prior report of committee be accepted and adopted with a favorable recommendation Okay, and so all these one through five have been done Thank you Thank you very much attorney McLean any further questions There being none all in favor say aye any opposed motion carries 1437 through 1441 to be referred report of committees 814 42 By finance recommended approving the revised capital improvements program recommended by the capital improvements commission For the program period 2008 through 2012 and adopting the 2008 program for implementation President hannah Thank you, mr. Mayor. I move to accept and adopt the rc and to pass the attached Second motion and second under discussion There being none, please call the roll height a minute Kittleson clay unis hi meyer montemayor rinflash ryan smith van der wheel wongerman boron bulk and hannah 13 ayes motion carries 1443 by salaries and grievances Recommended rescinding resolution number 346 81 82 That authorizes the salary and grievance committee to establish policy regarding the new benefits having a direct monetary value to city employees not authorized by ordinance resolution or labor agreement and passing the substitute resolution All in montemayor. Thank you your honor. I move to accept and file the rc and the substitute resolution be put upon its passage motion and second under discussion There being none, please call the roll kittleson clay unis meyer montemayor rinflash ryan smith van der wheel wongerman boron bulk hannah and heidemann 13 ayes motion carries Ordinance introduced 10 1444 to be referred Matters laid over 11 1355 Resolution number 160708 by element ryan Approving the second amendment to contract for sale of land for private development and amendment to promissory note By in between river park place of shabuigan llc And the redevelopment authority of the city of shabuigan wisconsin hallerman ryan Thank you, mr. Mayor. I move that the resolution be put upon its passage Motion and second under discussion Your honor basically what this is is this is a A tiff district that is underperforming at the moment. We are trying to get it developed This discounts the the cost of the land to the developer slightly With an agreement that the city shares in 50 percent of the profits from the sale of these properties in order to get this thing Spurred and moving so it's a it will be a hopefully a profitable move for the city Wonderful. Thank you one ryan any further comments? There being none, please call the roll Clowness Meyer Montemay or Rinflash ryan smith van der wheel wongerman boron bulk hannah Heidemann and kittleson 13 eyes motion carries 1358 1358 resolution number 1170708 by alderman van der wheel rinflash smith and kittleson Authorizing the proper city officials to sign an intern to agreement with the cities of fondelok and manitowoc for the purposes of providing clinical right along Refresher training for city of shabuigan firefighter paramedics Alderman van der wheel Thank you honor i've moved to put the resolution upon its passage Motion and second under discussion under discussion What this is is So they'll allow us to get ready So that we're not cold when we go when we switch to the ambulance service And there will be no overtime involved and Just to be clear as to refresh or not a training just allows us to refresh our refresh abilities of the Of the of the guys and it'll be both 10 to 20 guys And this will start upon passage if we pass it tonight Thank you, old man van der wheel any more discussion We're being done. Please call the roll Meyer montemay or rinflash ryan smith van der wheel wongerman boron bulk hannah Heidemann kittleson and clayunas 13 eyes motion carries 1352 general ordinance number 560708 by alderman boron wongerman clayunas mani and rinflash Repealing and recreating division 2 of article 2 of chapter 130 of the municipal code So as to provide additional regulation of vehicles for hire within the city of shabuigan Vice president boron Thank you, your honor. I move that the general ordinance be put upon its passage Motion and second under discussion Attorney McLean Thank you, your honor Hold on boron if I could direct this to you Section one of the ordinance Really should be reworded to say is hereby repealed and recreated it just says is hereby created the the caption is correct. It's We currently have a division 2 of article 2. So this is create a new one. We have corrected There is a corrected. Vice president boron Thank you, your honor that was on our on our desk tonight a corrected copy of the first page So I would I would I would move to Make that correction in the language as described by attorney McLean We can just change it as a corrector. You've got the corrected copy. You're passing that. Yeah, you don't need to All right fine. I apologize. I didn't see a corrected copy. Thank you Okay, so Again, it's 1352 And there's no need to amend you have the corrective copy that says repeal On it Any more discussion There is none. Please call the roll Montemay or Rindflash Ryan Smith Vanderweal Wangaman boron bauke Hannah Heidemann Kittleson Playunas and Meyer 13 eyes Motion carries 13 57 should be 13 53 General ordinance number 570708 by alderman rehassled Montemayor Heidemann Gisha and Meyer Amending the municipal code so as to change the table of organization of the information technology department information technology director Alderman montemayor Thank you, your honor. I move the ordinance be put upon its passage Motion and second under discussion Alderman Kittleson Thank you, your honor. Um, I guess I just would like some clarification on this. It appears to me that this ordinance is reducing Their current employees pay grade and I'm get what is the justification for this Can someone explain that to me? And then also I'd like to know was there a job description with the with the changes on it as well Okay, thank you The job description has already been passed by celery and grievance and the council all this is doing is Adjusting the the pay for the position the starting pay for the position We felt that we could attract an individual For that amount and we that we didn't have to go as far as high as we've normally would have gone And it's mainly an adjustment in the salary. That's all it is Alderman claviness Thank you, your honor. I guess I have a question similar to yours gene that Um This person will be managing their own department before they were under finance and now they're managing their own department And their the salary is going down. It seems kind of counterintuitive Uh at the way I understand this position to be you know, that development designated the uh The director will be handling the same number of people they were doing under finance It's just no longer will they report to finance they'll report to the mayor So it the same work is there and it was just felt with the uh human resources director and myself that Given that we can still attract a very qualified person for that amount of money That's saving the city money and the taxpayer money Alderman ryan Thank you, mr. Mayor. So basically what we're saying here. This is going to be new hire We're going to bring on for this position. This is not something somebody currently in the position that we are In effect going to be moat and a lesser Uh, great lesser pay grade, correct? So Sounds like a good move to me. I think so too Thank you when ryan any more discussion Alderman ryan please Hey, mr. Mayor Just clarification. So the currently we do not have an informant information technology department director Is that correct? We've already created that the council we already kind of but is there a person in that position? There's a person that position and following this we will be lowering the person's salary. Is it a I know we're looking going forward at Bring somebody in at a lower wage. I'd be more competitive that aspect It seems to me if we have someone in there already unless the performance is an issue I'm a little uncomfortable with the person is currently in that position Having publicly the salary reduced versus going to through salary grievances or perhaps having some kind of issue resolved Some kind of of um, you know, if there's an issue Warnings and follow through that way. I understand it's our prerogative to do so, but it makes me uncomfortable to do so Well, there's a person in that position right now This needs to be clarified here. Okay. We're not lowering anybody's salary You've already created the positions salary agreements created the positions salary agreements Put the job description together the council has already approved The person that's holding that position now is entrum If if the person wasn't holding it and there would be no person there We are currently advertising the position and there's applications coming in So there really there is no person holding that position now that position is being publicly Offered to the public right now to apply Okay, so we're not lowering anybody. All it is is establishing a new standard of wage Which probably should have been done a long time ago, which the salary agreements found prudent to do Ends are being referred to you Okay, we will Call the roll Rin Vlaish Ryan Smith Vanderwheel Vangaman Boran Bauch Hannah Heidemann Kittlesen Clowness Meyer Montemay or 11 eyes two nose motion carries 1356 general ordinance number 580708 by olemann rehassle montemayor heidemann geisha And meyer amended the municipal code so as to change the title and job code for the assessment coordinator and the assessor's office table of organization All in montemayor Thank you, your honor. I move the ordinance be put upon its passage Motion in second under discussion There being none, please call the roll Ryan Smith Vanderwheel Vangaman Boran Bauch Hannah Heidemann Kittlesen Clowness Meyer Montemayor And Rin Vlaish 13 eyes Motion carries other matters attorney mclean Thank you, your honor 1445 is communication from michael mooth mooth company llc regarding the proposed development of the wallgreens store on north avenue And asking if the city has done a traffic flow analysis and safety study of the streets Leading to and the intersection of north avenue and calumet drive That will be referred to public protection and safety and i'd like to refer that to city plan 2 continue 1446 Is an aro by the deputy finance director submitting an agreement from kmart and certain of its subsidiaries and affiliates regarding 2001 and 2002 personal property taxes that will be referred to finance committee 1447 is a resolution authorizing entering into an agreement with earth tech Shaboygan, wisconsin for the design of the fixed stock along a portion of the south sea wall of the shaboygan river That will be referred to public works 1448 is a committee report by the special committee on risk management Regarding the claim from brian and laura ballman Recommending that the report of officer be placed on file and to pay the claim in the amount of 907 dollars and 15 cents That one lies over 1449 is a committee report by the group health insurance committee With various recommendations that will be referred to finance 1450 is a resolution amending resolution number 470708 by all the person hannah Passed by the council on july 2nd establishing the monthly premium equivalent rates for the medical benefit plan effective for january 2008 coverage Now it will be referred to finance committee 2 need a motion to adjourn Motion and second all in favor say aye Then adjourn thank you very much and have a good night