 Hey, welcome back to the Backwoods Backstage 85 South Show Lounge. Now, it don't even make sense to come to Atlanta and say anything about some music and not bring up the legendary Dungeon Family. Goodie Mom is in the lounge with us right now today. And when I say Goodie Mom, I'm talking about Timo. I'm talking about Gil. I'm talking about Kujo. I'm talking about Selo. Known as the Goodie Mom. Because the God that mostly overboard shit. Indeed. Man, y'all so futuristic when it come to it. I get y'all the flowers every time I see y'all. Even if futuristic when it come to it. I get y'all the flowers every time I see y'all. Even if me and Gil smoke some up. I'm still gonna make sure that y'all get them flowers, man. Y'all looking good, feeling good. How's everything, man? Thanks. Magnificent. Good emotion. Everything's real good, man. We've been blessed. We had the opportunity to bring forth the Goodie Mom's true dirty South essence, man, to the world all over again for the 50 years of hip hop, man. I'm happy, man. I'm happy. It's a blessing, man. Still be relevant. Still have something to say. Still have a little energy left in the tank. You know what I'm saying? Still been doing this thing about 25 years, man. Come on now, 25. 25 years, man. 25 years, half of our lives, man. So it's been a wonderful journey. I can say that much. Man, you know that if you put them, that's 25, 50, 75. That's a hundred. Let's go. That's a hundred. The whole thing. Gil, how you feel today, man? I feel good. I feel good. Los Angeles being able to be out here in front of Atlanta, perform with the group, and just get the reciprocation back from the audience, man, that they still love us. They still think that we should be up there and we're still entertaining the world. Man, y'all still putting on them dope ass live shows, man? We on tour all year, man. We booked the next year. So, hey, man, the folks, they waiting to see them all air well. That's what's up, man. I give it up for that. Y'all back on the road. Cool, Joe, what you got for me, man? Hey, how's that, man? Hey, man, you know, I'm just, I'm just thankful, man. How's it been? We made it to a 50-year anniversary. What's up, man? Man, you know, hard part about it is, you know, when Dray said that South has something to say, I don't think they knew this train was coming like this. Yes. I don't think they knew it. But the good thing about it is that he was speaking for the whole South. You know what I mean? Not only just Goodymar, but everybody else that came after us. So, man, it feel good to be representing Soul Food, because that's what we all about. Man, it's just, man, we just, we just good, man. We feeling good, bro. See, you know what I'm saying? Pete Maupart. But we used to beat a lot of heads up out here in this park. Yeah. Oh, wow. I brought back memories, man. Oh, man. We used to take them up through there, man. But it's good to have a purpose, man. It's good, man, that people can look up to Goodymar and want to do what we do and just take this thing to that next level, man. Yeah. Lowe, how you feeling today, man? The boys have said it so eloquently. I don't know what much more I could add on to it. I just think that, you know, it's not a matter of old Atlanta or new Atlanta. It's about now Atlanta. Right now. Okay. You never see it being this big. Because, like, we here at Pete Maupart with Goodymar. Right. I mean, you know, the line that keep popping up in my head is thinking like the line is at Pete Maupart. Hey, man, that was a hot line, bro. Yeah, we in the land right now for sure. Yeah. I think what our intention was, man, we were going to work tirelessly, you know what I'm saying? Like to take the flag, you know what I'm saying? And venture out into that uncharted territory, plant it, man, and call it our own. You know what I'm saying? For the Dungeon Family, for the Collective, it's always been about conquest. Yeah. So we were always, you know, up for fighting the good fight. You know what I'm saying? So, like, yeah, it makes sense because don't nothing guarantee result but repetition. You feel me? Yeah. So we stay consistent and keep at it. That's it. Now, look, we've been seeing a little clips from the little studio sessions here and there. How's that going? Y'all been popping in for a little minute. What you got? Speak on it. I mean, we got a few things going on. I mean, like, Joe dropping new music. I'm dropping new music. Low dropping new music. Timo dropping new music. We got new TV shows. I mean, we just staying busy. Yeah. It seems like when this become your life, it ain't no sleep. Yeah. Until it's over with. Man, it seemed like good and mild. They didn't woke up asleep in giant, man. It's like y'all forming Voltron. Like you said, everybody got projects, movies, TV deals, give gas CBD. Yeah. And it's just like, man, y'all always been in the family but now it's so much stuff, so much more stuff under that umbrella, man. What does it feel like to be moving in this new energy with the family again? Man. You know, I got my mobile shake dance company going on. Mobile shake dance? Oh, we pop up like this right here. Exactly. It's already going on. The wings is already gray. Exactly. Mr. Lowjangles, they cooperating. Lowjangles. My bad, man. Go ahead, man. What you feel the same, Timo? I would say how I feel to be moving in this new energy is just everything revitalized. The boys are back together. Man, it feel real good just to be out here again to see some of our great, some of our heroes. Some of the people that inspired us and motivated us to do music, period, to be around Big Daddy Kane, to be around Slick Rick, to be around Dana Dane, to be around just some of the true fabric of hip hop. Like I say, that New York and that East Coast and that West Coast, they did it harder than us before us. We carried it towards them. So all of us inspire each other, teach each other and just continue to grow together, man. So it's been good, man, just being out there. Like I say, and it feel like a real family type environment just down in Cancun a couple of weeks ago. Rocked out, man, and it was love, bro. Man, I got to ask y'all this. I know y'all saw this on social media. I follow everybody on there. I always like to give my history from the people who would know it better than me. And I was put up on Timojo recently, the first rapper out in Atlanta. Y'all got any Timojo story? No, I got a few. I'm a few recent ones. Amen. We just, because what award ceremony was that? What we got? And shout out to Miss Mita, man. Dr. Mita Montana, a really good friend of mine. She organized that event to honor, you know, Atlanta and some of the unsung. So yeah, Timojo, man, I had never met him. I heard about him when I was a kid. I remember just the hook being really infectious. Let Timojo handle it. Yeah. Let Timojo handle it. You feel me? So I just remember that as a kid. So all of these years, I mean, I had no idea. Like, to be honest, to meet the brother, he's really a Godfather. We should acknowledge him as such. He got a lot of good energy, man. He's a good spirit. He just loved on us and vice versa. So I just met him recently for the first time, man. He a trip, man. Another week of exchange numbers. I mean, I can't, I can't get rid of them. He called me every couple of days. Man, what do y'all think of the One Music Fest, though? Being right here in Atlanta. And you see what it is, man. We kicking it like family friends and walking by and saying what's up. It ain't like, you know what I mean? It's that real authentic. It feel like we all just kicking it with each other, man. How y'all feel about that? There's a big family reunion right here, man. I gotta say, a lot of great city, man, because of that. That's one of the things that make this city so great. Everybody's so authentic. Everybody's so sincere in they, in theyself. You know what I mean? You feel me sharing. You know what I mean? You feel me genuine. You know, I love this community, man. Man, good music, good food, man. You know what I mean? It's like a family reunion. You feel it, you know what I'm saying? So, man, we owe it to the city. You know what I'm saying? One Music Fest, man. Sit out there on Motown, man, for putting it together, bro. This is a treat for Atlanta, man. Like I said, this is... There's a Motown right there. Okay. Okay. You see what I'm saying? You can literally just sit back and pick people up. That's how close the quarters that we are. Motown, honey. Yeah, yeah. I ain't even... I ain't even know he's a DJ. I ain't even know he's a DJ, bro. Man, it's so crazy. I was talking to y'all, DJ. Poppy. Yeah. We kicked it at the DJ Envy car show a couple years ago. Okay. And we was just chopping it up. With the beamer. Man, yeah. And then he moved out here and he was like, man, now I'm the tour DJ. Now I'm like, man, I told you at the car show to bring your ass down here. Okay. Atlanta is just one of them spots where it's like whatever it is you trying to do, it feel like the city waiting on you to come and do it, man. Yes. Yeah, he told me about it coming. And I said, he said you trying to tell him not to get involved in that real estate shit. Now we definitely told... I told him that. I said, hey, don't buy nothing right now. Don't buy nothing right now. Because it sounds too good to be true. It's true. It is, man. Okay. Man. Hey, you see, I got the jokes today, man. Come on, man. Shout out. I feel like you're kicking it the whole weekend just talking shit. Then let me set my trap up. I'm always good for it. This is your trap. Love it, bro. I love it. Love it, bro. I got... I got you on the night back in the backwood. Man, I'm telling you. Give... There's enough pockets in there where you can put everything you need right there and just walk around the house. Bring them out on those cigars. Yes, sir. Man. I don't want to smoke, man, but I do like the merch, though. It's your heart. It's your heart. I don't know if you saw it, but you see them in Atlanta hoodies, they got over there. I got one already. Now, those are soup of art. Oh, bro, I'm about to go shopping. I got to show love to backwoods and, you know, putting all this together, man, and letting us be a part of this experience. Yes, sir. That's true. You know, just to see that these type of companies and corporations are reaching back to us to, you know, make sure that the history is documented and we are represented. And somebody can do this right here so this could be a part of the history, too. Man, hip-hop influencing a lot of shit right now, bro. It's got to be... It's got to be in your movie. It's got to be in your commercial. It's got to be while you're chilling, man. So this is a great time, man, for artists. You know what I'm saying? That's really trying to do their thing, man. And it's centered around 50 years of hip-hop, man. Let's go up. You know what I'm talking about? 50 years, 50 years, bro. Man, y'all, I got to do it since everybody right here and y'all, the OGs of the city, please, I want everybody to go around, give me one of your hip-hop memories. Like if we was making a hip-hop vault, something that you would want put in there. Go ahead, man. Hip-hop time counts. I would say, man, I have to say this, the time I met Tupac. You know, um... Tupac. Yeah, we already... I knew it. I had to. Because he came too quick, I didn't have time to think. So, uh... So I remember one time we was riding... I went by myself. Me and this brother Hank, it went to the Century Club. I know you know what Century Club is out in Los Angeles. Century Club. The Century Club. The Century Club. But anyway, they had a big... Tupac had a five million party that night. He went five million platinum. So he had a big party invited us. He came up to us in the Soul Train Awards. Say, look, man, y'all come by, the party, show some love, kick it. Let's kick it, man. I would love to park at that time. Something like that. We there. No doubt. So we jumped in the car. Me and Ron Bird. He was our manager at the time. And the dude there, Hank. Hank, uh, we got to all... Shut up. The Hank got to restaurants. Yeah, Tom. Big Hank. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, anyway, we was all riding out, going out to the... to check our park. All the people come back this way. So I'm trying to figure out why everybody come back this way. So I say, hey, y'all ladies, why y'all come back this way? The party this way. Oh, they fighting and busting up everything. So we go up over there, pass by all the... on the hoopla or whatever. Tupac and shoot. Parking the guy, them black rosewoods, or sugar and the white rosewoods. So I'm looking, they got gang, dudes out, like, all over me, everybody looking like they pretty amped up, hyped up. They just got a squab and the shit. So I'm laying low, because, you know, I don't know these cats. I ain't got no gun. We ain't got nothing. You know what I'm saying? My road manager jump up by the thing and say, hey, shoot. You'll never believe who I got in the car with him. I'm like, oh, shit. I hope he liked me. You know what I'm saying? It's T-Mog, good him off. You know what I'm saying? Like, what? You know what I'm saying? He said, look, man, I love y'all, man. Y'all inspiring, man. People, I love y'all music. Keep up the good work. So I said, I love y'all music. Keep up the good work. So I said, oh, shit. Look at you. It's so in love. We get to, we leave there. He said, follow us. We'll go to the spot. Call the same square. Went to a club called the same square. That night, me and Pox, in that talking, shoot. I tried to knock all over. Knock just all kind of people over to get up in the club. To make a long story short, just disrespect the whole club. Everybody in the mall from the club was scared of the man. You know what I'm saying? I can see that. Everybody was scared of him. Nobody stepped up and slapped him. Nobody did. He said no. I ain't from that. That's that school. You know, we're from the school where anything goes. But, you know, it was just amazing to see him put in work like that. But that was a memorable moment for me just to have an opportunity to kick it with one of the greats. That's dope. Word. Dang it. Oh, man. I can remember one day we was in Vegas. And I had ordered me some room service, right? So I got my tray. I finished eating. I put my tray out. I mean, I seen Steven walking down the hall, bro. By himself? No. He went by himself. That's been a good one, though. I was about to say. I could have took you up through there, though. By himself, though. Because, you know, every time you hear Steven walk this door, he's unbelievable. Like, you'll never know if he fools you in the night. Right. My partner's sweat. He seen a nigga swing at Steven one day and he did like that. Try it again, motherfucker. I don't like Steven walking fucking up. I don't like Steven walking fucking up. I heard he could see for real. I did, too. It's a video online. Yeah. It's a mic stand, just like this. Not with him. I ain't looking like that, though. Steven, he get through. He's singing with a group of people on stage. Somebody bumped a mic and the mic falling. Steven turned around. He called it. He walking on stage and he called the mic stand and put it back up and walked the fuck off. How did he know that mic stand was falling? I heard he could see for real, man. So that's some folks around. I don't know if it's true and I can't confirm it in the night. But I heard you could see. What if he just had the surgery and they were like, man, I don't want to tell nobody to fuck the image out. They said, I mean, but the procedure, he could get his sight back. They said he refused to get it. I also heard that, too. Stem cells. Stem cells. Stem cells. Stem cells. It's true, though. Hey. He said he don't want it. I don't blame him. Yeah. If I made all that money blind, why the fuck would I want to see anyway? Fuck it all up. Clearly, he's seeing some shit but most people not. Absolutely. Factory. Factory. Because we had a couple of guys together and we had sent through one on. It's the first time we had all went to New York. It was for our cast, release party. No, it wasn't a release party, it was a listening party, if I'm mistaken. So we all, when it was all our first time, there's a crew. We had all been close to bad boy. So they was in the house. And not to separate myself, but I will say this, be, I don't know why he knew it because it was just a maybe because of Elly Reeves and Puffy's relationship. Maybe he had got an advanced copy of the outcast record. But as the homies is my witness, Biggie Smalls, y'all, was in front of the stage singing every word of my verse for Get Up, Get Out. The album wasn't even out yet, but he was singing it. So that's a great story of mine. And then also, That's the first CD I ever owned. Get Up, Get Out, Sing. Wow. Really? Yep. First CD I ever got in Atlanta at West D.M.O. I was getting ready, my dad was getting ready to drive us back to Mississippi for some shit. We was going home and we stopped by West D.M.O. on the way out and I had got my CD player. It was like that Christmas or something around that time. And I was taking my shit home. I was like, but I ain't got no CDs. Stop. That was the first one I got. And then look, I got one more. So I'm gonna double down. So that's the one we beat, the one we pop. It's more of a regret than it is a memory because everybody went to see pop. And it's on film. They caught the video of them going to the studio to hear him up that night. The boys was the first one to hear him up. See, that's what she was putting in the time caps. But I messed up. I'm a bull shit fucking with the broad. I'm like, y'all boy, go ahead. I wish I had a winker. Then Park got killed unfortunately after that. So I never got you to see him again. Get what's yours? I would think, I think the first time we went to Minneapolis and Prince came to our show. That too. That's a good one. Prince came out. Prince came out. First show was The Roofs, The Fuji's and Goodie Mall. And we looked up in the banister and Prince was standing up on the second level. Watching out. He had them brown glasses like he had in Purple Rain. Just like that. It really messed us up cause it was like we knew that that night he was there to see the talent. You know what I mean? And after everybody performed that night he invited everybody back to his spot. And we got to walk through his whole situation. Got to see where he made his outfits. Got to see where he kept his guitars. And then he had a back part. There was a studio. He had a stage set up. And he just played music for us until it was time for us to leave the city. Man, I got one that I gotta ask. Y'all were talking like T-Mobile earlier when you first said how you was talking about what it's like to walk around here and see legends and people that you were fan of. Joe, didn't you just recently run in the LL Cool J or something at the airport? Now, and you was like, you was a big fan. What was that moment like for you, man? Man, it's hard, bruh. I was like, man, I DM'd it. I was like, it does not finna hit me back. But I did it anyway. OG hit me back. I was like, whoa. So I just started kind of like trying to communicate with him, you know what I'm saying? Then when we did the fourth tour, man, I'm sitting backstage there waiting, bruh. I'm like, man, I got to meet him. I got to meet him. So once he came out of the stage, man, he was walking with me and Timo. Walk with me and Timo. He said, bruh, he said, man, I like what you're doing, man, keep doing your music. Now, for a brother that's in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to come down to my little level, tell me to keep doing the music. That means he's watching us. You know what I mean? So man, that was my first time ever meeting him. Word. First time meeting him, meeting Rock Him, meeting Light. Man, man. Shots out to all of them. Man, where you want all of them? Now I got to ask this. I feel like this is the most important question. What the crazy shit going on in the world right now? Chaos, times it's changing again. The technology is still flipping. Right. Is it time for another sale there? Oh, yeah. I would say so. Definitely. Yeah. It's the beat, the music, the finding music that's futuristic. Yeah, it is because when we first came out, this is the environment Goodymaw was created in. Mm. You know, like this is the environment that Goodymaw was created in. So again, like it's so much to pull from, right now to go into the studio and really work on a new album. It's so much to pull from. It's chaos in the West, it's chaos in the East. So I just think that it would be a great time because I think we need to kind of like establish where we are as a culture. Right. Right now in the world. And we got to stand on our own. I think it's time for us to not be, to stop being used in other people's wars and other people problems. It's time for us to really concentrate on what we need to become, to become greater as a community. So I think that's only gonna come in the rhyme because the way to rhyme me is, man, you know, it's real music. Right. It's key of music. So it gotta be something that's gonna come to balance the game out again, like soul food deal. And that generation itself has to speak. That's exactly what Stevie Wonder did. I'm trying to promise you. You remember what he said? That was the Stevie. That's what Stevie did? Stevie Wonder did that. Yeah, but I was gonna say, man, that generation itself has to seek that knowledge, you know, and speak that truth to power. Each generation needs to give birth to that balance. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? Because balance is virtue, balance is righteous. It can't be all good, it can't be all bad. You gotta be all real and all honest. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? We spoke for our generation. Of course, we still got things to say to add on and contribute. But the last time I seen something impactful and just completely genuine and organic was Lil Baby as Black or White. That was the one. You know what I'm saying? Like you feel me? It really blessed me to hear the young boy speak on it like that. You know what I'm saying? So I would love to see someone out of each generation rise up and assume that position. They may like, because sometimes, you know, they need to talk to themselves. You know what I mean? Like a lot of problems are solved with the internal dialogue. So sometimes you might not be able to take, you know, the information from an elder because you live in a different time. It's a different world they're living in. So they have to prove to themselves that they understand their place in the world. You know what I'm saying? Like in their responsibility for themselves and for culture. I know we got a rap, but I got one more question. It's like, as artists, as performers, as rappers, how does a rapper get trapped into a space like now where it's like, even if you make the bang bang, shoot them up, kill them against the shit, why is that the only way that they can get their message out? Because I'm looking, I know that y'all have songs where it's whooping their ass in the club, but then you can turn around and still hear a sky high or a beautiful skin. Like what, what pushed artists into thinking that it's not okay to make more than just one kind of music? Money. The customer's always right, my bad. It's what the people want. It's what we assume that they want. And it's what we know they want. And I'm saying, you feel me? But sometimes it's all that they have access to. And certain things, you know, the difference between good and bad is the budget. Does that make sense? Most definitely. The difference between good and bad is the budget. So, so, hip hop music is highly profitable because it's low maintenance. It's inexpensive to make. So it's all profit for the most part. You go stand in the closet, go stand in the bathroom, you know what I mean? Like, and make a hip hop record. You feel me? So for the machine to reap all profit, they're gonna antagonize that. You know what I'm saying? They're gonna advocate for it. You know what I'm saying? Like, but at what cost? And at what cost do we give the consumer what they want? You know what I'm saying? You feel me? You're gonna ultimately kill your clientele. So, and you know, if you put it in a street turn, you gotta step on the work a little bit. Right. Just a little bit. Am I right? You know, you most definitely right. You the man that had the whole world saying, fuck you, in the nicest way possible. Yeah. You made the happiest fuck you song that there could ever be. For sure. Now that could have went a whole another way. It could have been, fuck you, I'm coming over there to do some shit. That's a fact. But this fuck you and I'm gonna walk off saying it. That's dope. I don't say that kind of fuck you too. You gotta wanna be different, bro. Yeah. You gotta wanna push that envelope. You know what I mean? Us being young in our 20s, wanna rap about something totally different. Because you're right. We was some head bustles. You feel me? We did that and did this. You know what I mean? But we didn't want that in our music cause we had to go back to our mama and big daddy. Big mama and big daddy. Hey mama, listen to my song. Man, baby, you done killed five niggas. You know what I mean? Ran out the stove. That's what you been doing? It's a difference between growing old and growing up. That's some heavy lifting right there. Well, I could literally sit here and talk to y'all all day. I still got a million questions. I think we got about five more trips to the trap. We gotta come back here. Y'all gonna come to the news fire. Hell yeah. I'm excited as hell. I'd like to invite y'all in person. Come to the news fire. We know y'all what y'all doing, what y'all contributing. Much continued success y'all. One Lord of DC young fly. You know what I mean? We still ride with you, baby. That's all good. Man, and my boy Chico. Make sure y'all check fly. Y'all know he hosting the new celebrity squares. Yeah, most definitely. And we just dropped an independent film with Tip called Apartments. That shit funny as hell, man. Make sure y'all put it up. He better airport on the way here, so shout out to the county. He got a song coming out soon, too, a vacation. My God, yeah. Yeah, man, so you know it's always love whenever I see y'all, man. I try to hit y'all along the social media as much as I can and stay in the loop. Me and your son be talking good shit. You talking with me? Yeah, man. Me and Timo jumping in them grand nationals and we're gonna ride out. I was just gonna say, we're gonna ride. We did some shit over there with Kujo cars. Yeah, you get back with your folk, man. Man, hey, we got the shot. Now we got the shot. I told the boy we need to start a car club, man, this is gonna go on again. I got a video. Shots out the two chains, man. You got the South Side got them going, man. And I'm on the South Side, too. For sure. Most definitely, man. Baby Bird Automotive. Man, you got a friend that's coming to O'Ed, man. Roll them museums. Let's do it. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I know. It's my boy, Ed, and I'm Melvin. Exactly. Man. Yeah, I just got there. I got something out of there. Where your shot located? I'm coming. We'll wrap off this joint. But this down in Jonesboro. Yeah, I'm most definitely. Most definitely. What she is? Much love. Much love to say that a lot, man. We thank y'all for everything. Man, much love and success. Good and mom. Backwoods backstage lounge, man. 85 South, none other than the legends. Get back.