 Okay, good morning. Good afternoon everybody and welcome to the latest Jenkins advocacy and outreach SIG meeting For a gender today, we've got three items I'll contribute to summit the video uploads and Join summer student presentation. Is there any other topics folks want to? Mention upfront I've not feel free to at the end of the meeting if something comes up Let me know and we're happy to discuss it. Does this look like it's recording to you? Yes, yes, it is. Okay, great Okay, so I'm deliberately for this meeting just not going through the actions. I know I've followed up Alyssa as a way currently and Skyler with the 4th of July she's not around today and But I've been following up with her on the blog post and we're a bit behind on those But still the intention is there to get them done, but we're taking the pressure off any kind of deadlines for now Okay, so contribute to summit One thing We have said is that they will we will do a contributed summit on August 12th such as before DevOps world Jenkins world and It will be similar structure to the ones we've had in previous years except this time will do it in conjunction with other CDF projects, so well While it will still call it Jenkins contributed summit will also have will also be calling it, you know CDF contributed summit and The other communities involved which are tacked on specifically they'll be also Kind of running a co-located contributed summit So what we think this means in practice because this is the first time doing it that this way is That in the morning We'll have some shared sessions across all the projects. So any shared topics related to continuous delivery Or maybe things like, you know joint outreach programs or events We'll talk about those all in one room and then after those shared topics I don't know if that will be mid-morning or after lunch. Then the different projects will Go break out into different tables and can do a bit more kind of unconference style So I Have a Meetup group page set up for that if I can find it So in the meantime, are there any questions or thoughts about what would be good to do there how it should work? Yeah, one question is about CDF governance So we'll be the special sessions about CDF governance and other things Because from what I see many contributors especially in Jenkins project They still don't understand how CDF works So maybe something like CDF 101 would be really helpful for the summit Yeah, let's put that down as topics So we can have a specific session on that and I think there's also Some work to do with CDF in terms of Jenkins Governance, so I think there's conversations we should have with Jenkins about how to What structure makes more sense going forward in terms of I think we talked about Sort of the replacement for the The steering committee meetings and a new kind of stewardship board made up of Jenkins contributors So I think that would be a really good discussion to have face-to-face So shall we put that down as one of the potential topics but potentially yeah, it would be interesting Okay, that's good Okay, so it's just going to show for now I do have the We have the page up on the the Jenkins developer and use a meetup group. So I'll copy this link So we've got a link to the event bright page It was also reposted from newtab.com if I recall correctly Sorry, could you repeat that? Oh, yeah, this is the newt here showing So yeah, so asking people to register so it's a free event But they do need to register just so that we can plan accordingly for numbers and food and Additionally, it's likely we'll have a An appreciation event in the evening again, it might be up leveled as a CDF appreciation event and we invite Every the other projects to come along But this isn't fully confirmed I think it was very likely to happen. So people should plan to attend but we're just Waiting to hear one final confirmation before we post it publicly. Oh and look we already have folks who can attend So that's great to be there mark any specific topic you might want to speak about or hear about I can do I Mean I think we talked about the Google summer of codes. Oh, look, will you be there for this? Well, it really depends on my visa Yeah, so we I think we had talked a little bit about in the in the Google summer of code SIG Martin and I will be there. So maybe we could do sort of a joint topic on that You also Martin will be there if I understand correctly. Oh Great and the Jeff Pierce will be there as well. So we get four or cut means Well, basically except me and Rick Rick's going to be there. I believe Okay, so subject to be as well Okay, well fingers crossed for a few but yeah, and I think Based on last year, I thought that the GSOC presence made a big difference in terms of Getting interest getting more mentors So it was definitely one of the kind of most active things that happen at the contributor summit and probably I would say I don't know for sure but contributed to to the high levels of participation and just a lot of momentum Speaking of it, maybe it makes sense to have session or maybe there's a few there for Whatever student programs intention problem programs because it's not the GSOC now it's also outreach. It's community bridge Which we are trying to kick off maybe Google code in if you participate this year, I'm not sure So yeah, if you have such session for whatever community program and talk to other projects because Yeah, I'm not sure about tick tone about Spinner care, but in this project, we have some experience and we can talk so maybe we could have something from the CDF later eventually Yeah, I think that that's a great idea and I've noticed like I'm trying to keep tabs on what the tecton folks are doing and like they were keen to do a mentoring type program and In some ways that's similar to community bridge. I think they're looking at the ones Kubernetes does which is pretty I think big wide scale in terms of just connecting up mentors at any time at any point Regardless of internship program, but making sure people can get connected to folks who can help them so It's also something we could do So yeah, we do it at Focke now. So when people come to whatever we try to guide them But yeah, haven't got something more formalized having country points for that would be nice Yeah, I think that would be good to figure out as well if we can work together and Yeah, just share resources be nice I have a question in the event bright page for the computer contributor summit Sail has ended. Oh I don't know if that's supposed to be a say Also, there's no way to Yeah, sign up is not available. Okay. That is good debugging Yeah, let me get that Skylar and I'll cut to fix that except. Oh, she's away today. Okay. Let me make a note I can I see you I hear you So Tracy are you still there? No No, she she dropped should I pause the recording? Oh If you have access to that, of course, I Just didn't know what there is such fish like Yeah, there there is a feature for the host and I think because I got here At a certain point there you go Tracy you're back. Yes, sir I think my connection is flaky. I'm just gonna go off video, but is that still recording? It is still recording. Okay. Perfect. I think I said it to record to the cloud bits. Hopefully It will keep doing that okay, so I Don't know where I dropped off, but I think had we finished with the contributor summit So just video uploads just to summarize the discussion we had just before the meeting started I need to get access to the share to the YouTube channel so I can upload this videos directly and so paying one of the folks who has access and in the meantime if I can make those available on Google Drive or public place like I guess the zoom cloud for this recording then perhaps mark wait or I can help and Then we'll have a playlist Oh and Oleg says playlists can be configured to automatically add by labels. So that's awesome Okay, so on to the next item, which is the joint summer student presentations Yeah, I'm scrunching for you right now so that you get a bit of an bite Thank you. So who's is this your topic Oleg? Do you want to lead the discussion or is that you Maki? This one Yes. Yes, so basically It's what we were discussing In yesterday the GSOC meeting Now we have five active GSOC projects in the Jenkins community plus to our three students plus we kickoff community bridge and plus there are Summer students working on GSOC and other projects. So there are at least three organizations Which also have students who work on Jenkins related things And the idea was that what if actually what if we do a joint session so that we just Bring every day It might be useful for community bonding. It might be useful to just share meetings between the stakeholders and We do all the recordings and events in GSOC anyway So for us, it's not a bit ever not to be covered but yeah we could host it as a part of second or third face evaluations in GSOC What's the timeline for that? I think this would be great The second evaluation I will be from 20s to something like 26 of July and The third evaluation is a bit more tricky because third evaluation collides is Jenkins both if I recall correctly so it's mid-August Okay, I was thinking rather about the second evaluation and this would be a virtual event. I expect yes Yeah, it would be visual event So yeah, we can just run Jenkins online meet up or whatever Have two sessions one morning in European Union for Europe and the Asian and Pacific region Another one is even session so for my request and the European And yeah, we just run several demos during each sessions plus Kone. So that's how we used to approach your GSOC Over previous years and it works pretty well Yeah, I think that works well, and I think I saw that you'd already communicated that with the folks doing outreachy and Matt sicker seemed keen like he was up for it Yeah, I don't remember that but yeah, maybe we communicate it Yeah, I think in principle it seemed fine. So do we I mean, I think we can go ahead and Plan that as a job What do we need to do to work out what date to do I mean, I'm happy to all this Doodle so once I get confirmations from GSOC or convenience that they're fine So far I get a plus I would plus one from Markey, but other or kidneys haven't applied yet They'll start to do once we have agreement and doodle just Great just for an online meet up what I Don't know why this matters, but it seems to in terms of the title. What would we call it as an event? This is a good question Wanted to represent Yeah, all the should we do it as a kind of an Outreach like part of this advocacy sig or why not or we can just call it something like summer project demos Yeah, so final name is need to be there fine But here you just have the draft of the meet up announcements so that all the event managers will be able to review it Yeah, why don't we we could go ahead and just start creating a draft now Gonna try sharing my screen again, okay, so I'll stop check You can take over. Yeah, let's see if I can share And hopefully Internet holds up Okay, so I'm in Jenkins online meet up and let's just put a placeholder for it. So this would be Jenkins summer Demons So he's put gsock and outreach Yes, just a cow three shift plus. Yeah, maybe sliding is interesting to join because he already contributed Some needs for jcask. So yeah, maybe you let come you into bridge, but we can start from there Or maybe just do it like this Yeah, I drink some demos Gee and Let's placeholder for now and so rough dates it will be this week 20 second Yeah, basically, it will be 23rd 24th or 25th because 26 is evolution that line for jsock. We don't want to postpone it in the very last date and Monday just gives Students and mentors some time to the driver Okay I'll put it just there for now. I know this. I don't know what time zones these end up and Would it be an hour? We're gonna do two different sessions, right? Yeah, it will be probably 90 minutes or maybe one hour. So it really depends on how many speakers we get because yeah, I will need to Reach out to three communities, so it's CCRM for see and Eclipse if I recall correctly Yes, we will just need to talk to them if they join the sessions then Okay, so what else I mean, we don't have to fake Do this all now, but it'd be good to know what to follow up with do we have something we can use for this? Or do we should we maybe We have some Jsock artwork, but you're for the sessions probably you'll need to create something else Okay, so I need some artwork just to and then a description and So this would just depends once we get the speakers You're right. So I can prepare this content. It's not a big deal Okay, so I have a gender and then the location will just need to have the And we'll need a host for it. Yeah, awesome because for YouTube life, we are still limited by 10 participants Okay Usually it means that if you have three or four students plus we have at least one or could mean Who runs the meeting plus we have mentors and yeah, here we are capacity limit So maybe no family uses on for these sessions Yeah, so can you assume the other thing we could try although maybe this is not the right first time to try it But there's a platform. I'm seeing some other communities use for webinars, which is called crowdcast and that Although I think that might work better for just a couple of people presenting But they're things like you can have a green room and you can pull in speakers and Kind of sopping out speakers and there's a nice chat integrated But actually maybe zoom will be simpler for this time Okay, I'll add you as a co-organizer And then we'll see who else we can get Yeah So basically you can just see if it is draft and we will clean it up later So I have access to this page. I can edit it on my own Great just to do. Okay. So yeah, so let's get that in place and then I'm just gonna write this in Okay, we can survive with these graphics because we use some on me top Yeah We need the host and We need the time and we've got their graph which I can link to Nope Yeah, no word is so these things are private anyway So on the event and access to them and the event managers know where to find them Okay, and we're likely. Yeah, you said we'll do this too Good and then we're reaching out to So GSOC outreach II and if you said eclipse GSOC as well potentially So eclipse CDC realm and Fosse so for foresee everything is organized because yeah, I'm a mentor there So it's not a big deal for me Then for two other projects, I know the context of So I can just send a message and see what they reply Yeah, I'm happy to reach out to the eclipse GSOC folks But yeah, I think if we set our date once we set a date based on The Jenkins GSOC students then we can just reach out to them and say hey if you could join it would be great to Add you to the agenda. Well, we can just send a little to them So then they can also vote by the way maybe it's So yeah, it's yeah, it's eclipse foundation Okay All right, anything else on this Presentation That's fine. Yeah, it'll be good to just get I think we've we haven't had any online meetups for a while So it'd be good to just get those going again and You do most Mostly do them a set of meetings Okay, cool Okay, next topic We have get a channel for newcomers Very created but need people to help with balancing the load Yeah, so basically it's what we were discussing a couple of weeks ago. So it's just Item for update my plan is to create this channel Before that I will send a message to the development team. So if I find Few people who are interested to spend some time there. Well in GSOC we regularly Receive messages because apparently many newcomers end up in a GSOC Gither channel. Yeah But yeah, we can Just creating a channel for it Like I can help in that channel Then we can just create it Great. Have you sent the email already? Is that something I should reply to or not yet? I will send it Okay, I'll keep a lookout and yeah, I can add Just volunteer visibly in front of people and hopefully it will encourage other folks to to join in But yeah, no, I think there will be nice kind of entry point for people So I will read the documentation so that it points to right place because now we have for Jenkins. Ioslash participate page But this page doesn't really provide any entry point contact for interested contributors Yeah six months ago, so I added Contacts to many pages. So all Jenkins are your pages support referencing Gitter or select channels via metadata Once the channel is created, I'll edit there as well Great Yeah, that'd be good to have another topic If you're done on that one, I think that will be really good to do and just kind of get people more and more involved and Maybe even find a way for once people are Kind of on-ramp. They're happy to help. I know some schemes you kind of have it So people are encouraged to you know, give back once they are more and more up to speed Which seems to work well for outreach in GSOC. So maybe a more general one would be great I'm I was just gonna bring up the Jenkins IO Sorry the github to take a look at the How we're doing on pull requests there could be better, but So we have a few pending blog posts The most of them are from JSOC we lent them So Do you is there anything I can help with on these No, JSOC blog posts are fine in the blog post from them and I in the top I mean the second pull request from the top is also ready to go. I believe you will mash it today Okay, but Merge now like we shouldn't like people are planning to do it Yeah, so for so the biggest problem is about the documentation pull requests But yeah, this documentation Pull requests really need some assistance from documents special interest group So No for pull requests in the bottom This one yeah docker image in documentation. It's something it's a lot left over from Java 11 So yeah, I'll just be in people because I work with other and so I'll just check the And so three other pull requests. Yeah, they came from country Utters whom I do not really know But yet the pull requests seem to be reasonable and it would be great if we finally integrate them So ignoring the on-hold ones this one I was tempted to just Unfortunately close it because it's been a while and I don't think This it's been sitting there ever since I've been here, but I don't think unfortunately I think people have moved on Is that something we can do or just ask people to reopen it And so maybe we can bring up it again to model the documentation special interest group Okay, it's interesting to take it over there. Maybe we could Okay, measurable in the current state Yeah Yes, you do that and that that otherwise I'm gonna recommend we just close it and Let the folks know involves say if they are Interested and they reopen it then we can get somebody to work with them on it. I Can help connect them with somebody Okay, so Yeah, I think just see what we can do to help keep things ticking over Yeah, it's really great all the the GSOC posts coming out now. So and as you if you could keep letting me know in the Gitter I can keep tweeting them out Okay, I think that's everything I had from my side Okay, anything else for today of anything Great. Well, I think this is really good and lots of exciting things coming up So, yeah, thanks everybody and yeah follow up offline Thank you for anything meeting And hopefully Hopefully you'll be able to discuss more GSOC topics. I'm sorry not to do this whole topics next time so yeah, and the next meeting will be at kind of the later time and Hope to have some folks back in like Skyler and Alyssa Okay, thanks everybody. Goodbye. Have a good one