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So all right like anxiety about the police pulling up and stuff like that But yeah, I'm just chilling Anxiety a 15-year-old boy has been cleared of murdering a rapper who was stabbed to death at a teenage party which spyro out of control after Going viral on social media the defendant who cannot be named for legal reasons was found not guilty of killing 16-year-old Shokie on August 15th. Oh Shokie Okay As shares his experience of the night that forever altered his life He sheds light on the grim reality of night crime emphasizes how easily and tragically lives can be locked We appreciate as for sharing his story and we'll remember Shokie With heartfelt condolences. Welcome to the taboo room bang This is a dude that did it or Yeah, about the police pulling up and stuff like that. But yeah, I'm just chilling Probably gone sleep that night Yeah, woke up about three in the morning to a knot and then I just knew it was the police that I could feel the energy Yeah, they came in and they said I'm arrested for murder and that's it So I was born in London. I lived with my mom till about 11 years old And I started living primarily with my dad Yeah, my childhood was pretty strict my dad was a bit more lenient than my mom and Was a good childhood and what area was you going up in again? I'm peckham. What was it? I was brought up in peckham. It was rough Probably the same as anywhere in London. Well, yeah, it was decent. Yes. What about your education? I'm out decent in school sex first and second set between my subject. Yeah As I'm taught me about the incident. I guess that changed your life forever. You said So he busts the case So he beat the case which led to s and s and I aren't getting a whole lot of bad reps due to it Was good age Well, I was arrested for a murder probably the shulky murder as you don't know it. I was acquitted under self-defense Hey, bro was guilty Look at this guy look hold on look I was acquitted Look how proud he is to beat that case. Look Probably the shulky murder as you don't know it. I was acquitted I'm trying as hard as not to smile. I'm gonna catch it the self-defense I found not guilty So how did that all begin? Just fuses a teenager I'm doing some bad stuff now. It shouldn't really have been doing Making some poor decisions. So to be honest, so when you say poor decisions, what was the first thing that happened? So to my memory that as a young boy I probably Went to Luciam to try and rob phones And yeah, that's probably how the situation started So you robbed someone's phone. Yeah, yeah, basically and then what was the backlash from that? He kind of called you all the brothers and then these older brothers came Basically I was standing in the same area like a doughnut and then yeah, we basically had a fight and inside I got the scar on my lip here. What happened? The boy had a ring on his finger and as we were fighting I don't think he was really getting the better of me, but just because he had the ring It's like it's left a mark on my face. So is that a case? You got a permanent mark. He got the better of you You rub you rub someone and on the same day that these people came up to you Yeah, and it's like how far apart with us to instance Probably at 20 minutes pop And I guess when you saw these people approaching you, did you realize what was about to happen as the young you? I was a bit too overconfident. I was telling them it was me that kind of yeah It was that they came up to me out so it was and I said it was me No, and then what happened after that? It was just a fight after that you reacted he punched in my face I punched him yeah, I'm saying we just squabbled in then through the mist of everything happening that my friends have kind of stopped and said Wow, you're bleeding. That's like your lip. Look at your lip You know saying I guess probably for people who I've got stabbed card the mild blood But now he just had a ring and so you know you've left that scene and then what happened I've kind of felt like I'm showcase all the brother set me up That's how I felt. I felt like the only person who knew what I was at that specific time show keys all the brother And how old was you and how it was the people in the instant? I say I was about 14 10 and 15 and the guys were about I say about 18 19 maybe Maybe 17 10 18, bro When I was a freshman in high school there was like People 19 18 20 like with like bro you graduated. Why are you? Why is you still In beef with high schoolers like go go Go start life You made it Don't do something better or had is that I have now and then how did you react then so that situations happen? You've robbed someone then you've had a fire your lips got both then what was happening? I just thought angry after that honestly for angry Yeah, so angry after that needed that Something needed to be resolved He got he got the best of him Ain't no way like even if you bust your lip if you get to one-on-one you squabbling or They did he get in the one-on-one or they jumped them It's not like cuz it kind of sound like they jumped them and it sound like you got into a one-on-one I don't know which one But if it was just a one-on-one and he got and he wasn't getting the best of you He's just had a ring on and caught you but you still whooped them Like you'd be like I cool I'm good. I want There's something you're not telling us. Yeah, so anger after that needed that something needed to be resolved and Then what was left? So a few incidents happened but in between that Kind of gone back and forth a few times but Main incident Probably in Peckham. I've seen him again with my friends and then yeah He's come up to us and he's probably that odd, you know, my name is Shouki Do you remember what happened last time and stuff like that? Just giving all the big big ones and Yeah, nothing really happened with that situation. We're just kind of a conflict Yeah, that's about it And then I guess tight me to the day that I guess the incident took place He's an established artist like he's a this guy. He's S of SNR Like before that A party I went to in Burma Z Here's one thing you need to do before buying anything online Wait, it was that 30 of them at that party. There's that 30 of them I was my girlfriend I came there So, yeah, I was going to the party with my girlfriend. Um Well, I was meeting my girlfriend not as that when I say established I mean, he's a rapper that y'all know about And then I met my friend first. We've gone to the party. You've seen these people and Kind of like in the midst of seeing these people my friends gone missing So I've gone into the shop to try and buy a drink and stuff like that I've come out the shop people called in my government name like Did you just hear what he said listen and kind of like in the midst of seeing these people my friends gone missing Your friend ran he left you Your friends seen the ops he seen it was 30 of them. He was man. Let me slip good up out of here He ran I hope you my friends with him no more Continue So I've gone into the shop to try and buy a drink and stuff like that as I've come out the shop people I called in my government name that I should my show my is that show my yeah, and I've looked around and I've seen It's that show keys all the brother and a whole lot of people that 15 16 people Copy-peck amuse there by having a little feud a little argument I'm trying to diffuse the situation And then I've kind of lost the plot kind of and I've trying to kind of said life You're gonna do something do it now and everybody's kind of pause and then after that that's not everyone just run towards me So I've started cutting now Sorry Joe. Yeah, this is outside of the party, you know, so I haven't even got into the party yet You got I'm trying to say so Yeah, so I made it home that day anyway Yeah, well that was all that was so you fast So you said if you're gonna do something do it now and they start they got on that you said you cut out you ran So what happened to your girlfriend? She ran with you or you just You would just at this point you single. Okay continue. That was the last incident before actually seen him at the party wearing that And so was that so this is a different die to the actual incident. Yeah, that was a different day to the actual incident And then when was the next time that you cross paths? And that's time we cross path off the dad. Yeah, would have been the party that he died So I told me for the day in the party itself So, yeah, I'm the morning I woke up of the party My plan was to get two t-shirts matching t-shirts for me and my girlfriend. Oh, okay So you reconcile y'all talked about it. You told her like they not here for you They was here for me. So I ran I knew they wasn't gonna chase you I was trying to take their attention away from you by running the opposite way It's W. Man's okay So, yeah, I've gone to West End that early morning got two t-shirts come back I'm shouting my girlfriend. She's preparing for the party helping Well, I've gone to drop the t-shirt off. What arts if they needed anything else help They didn't really need my help going to meet my friends Chilling yes, I'm pre-drinking And that's about it gone gone to the party I'm chilling in the party for about maybe Half an hour 45 minutes max Yeah, chill in the party and then we're just hearing loud Screams of girls like our showcase her showcase her that kind of fan behavior I'm I've kind of confused calm thinking that I'm two seconds away from my area Like you're from Newsham that what are you doing at a party in Beckham? You know I'm saying especially that my clothes that my girlfriend's close friends to party, you know He was moving like he was running the situation Okay, so so Yeah, he's ended up coming Me and my friend have decided to leave and go towards his nuns to get I Can't remember what we were going to get I can't kitchen. I can't remember was going to get what we wanted to go to his nuns As we've got to the front door we bumped into Shokie coming into the parking You know Sam My friends kind of startled that he's kind of froze up Is this the same friend that ran the first time? Why are you still kicking it with him? We know he's not like that Okay, all right My man's like yeah, yeah, and then Yeah About how he's nice I've gone to the kitchen when he spoke that is no if what if you thought I picked the software engineering So W add placement. I didn't really have a full process, you know, it was just more of a reaction You guys and like I'm all reacted going to the kitchen got the kitchen knife And as I've come back he's like literally right at the kitchen door You guys and so I've just swung swung twice And then like he's kind of stumbled back towards the front door Pushing him through the front door lock the front door and through the back If that's how that happened, that's that self-defense RIP Shokie, but if that is how that went down legitimately that's I was about to get up out of there I Went to the door my boy Who's already we already know he's not built like that he ran he got startled he froze up But he backed out his knife What was I supposed to do die? No, I know no, you're not In my opinion RIP, but no you are not supposed to die II Go defend yourself Ran to the kitchen buddy buddy pursued because When he grabbed the the kitchen blade he turned around he was at the door of the kitchen so that means he chased him to the kitchen With the the knife out What was everyone's reaction at that time? Like I feel like the party was still kind of going on so until he went outside and he started bleeding on the floor I don't think anyone really realized what happened because it was like in a spare the moment kind of thing it wasn't In front of everybody it wasn't in front of the main party was that right at the front door you guys again Literally, oh that's happened. That is true. We only get to hear one side, but I'm pretty sure there was witnesses there party for the people What have you done there? I've walked over the back garden and I'm just me and my way home Actually, what's worrying for your head now that you that that instance happened Funny enough the first thing that came to my head was self-defense funny enough But yeah, I didn't really have much force much for process Obviously, I didn't know you had passed away yet. So yeah, I didn't Not many force not not many negative force come across my mind after that I was on my way home and then by the time I got home obviously I've seen it Bro got pressured you got put back against the wall what you supposed to do He pulls and that's when it's kind of hitting me that brawler mama's dead. You know I'm saying When you're seeing there, I guess then what's happening in your head More like disappointment to family What Joe's gonna be like, you know I'm saying what I don't know I was kind of complacent with the fact that I was In that situation if you know, I mean No, I just thought it felt it felt right to be honest I knew he was gonna say it felt good. I knew it You see what I'm alive. I'm I feel good Felt right. I'm here Okay, that feel wrong. You know, I mean it felt like what I was going for I was meant to go for And how old are you about then this? 15 15 15 and so And so day one goes past and then what are people saying the people messaging you know, what's the situation? Yeah, a whole lot of different so all all the messages all all the people that knew me and Probably trying to expose certain pieces of information that they felt that was valuable, but Yeah, like It was all to show me you really fought with me. Honestly. That was it That was it and then when did the police get involved? I'll say the police got involved on the Seventh yeah, the seventh I got arrested. That's when I got arrested the seven and he died on the fifth of August Tell me about the day that you got arrested. What happened there? so The day I got arrested Just a normal day being inside like but let me clarify man There is no right or wrong in this situation, but there is reaction and There is action and reaction so One action warranted a reaction back Still kind of fresh still got Like anxiety about the police pulling up and stuff like that, but yeah, I'm just chilling Probably gone sleep that night Yeah, woke up about three in the morning to a knot and then I just knew it was the police like I could feel the energy Yeah, they came in and they said I'm arrested for murder and that's it What what did your family say at that stage? like at that stage My family was Aware that something had happened So I don't think they were surprised when the police came if you know I mean that the reaction was before the police came if you get me because they knew what happened before the police came What did I say to you well and what did it was a case they knew but they didn't know Like when it's me like I know my mom was probably upset with the situation What happy with the outcome and so with my dad upset about the situation what happy with the outcome car Yeah, it could have been flipped on both sides. I could have been the you could have been alive you can't say him but It's just about he was quicker So now you've been arrested and what's happening though So, yeah, I'm in the station two three days interview non-stop probably at six seven interviews I've got reminded to a secure unit in Bristol I'm not even gonna lie. I'm keeping a buck with y'all man If you if you familiar with the streets of you from the streets or you or you in the streets heavily, you know Two things if you back if you put if you pull out your weapon you better use it immediately That's the first thing the second thing is We all know when there's a free free KILL situation and in this situation That's got him a free one aren't like once I'm once again RIP But that's a free at KILL and that's how he moving That's what we call self-defense is a freak of a free KIL like I'm in a self-defense situation. I'm striking Now show he would have pulled it out And actually Went for it. Show key. What is he going to jail for? And him ain't no getting away from that and not a self-defense. It's an M And I've gone caught then I've got some might remind it to secure unit in Bristol and yeah, I'm just in the secure unit from then and then Slowly getting pieces of evidence and stuff like that. Yeah, and what's going for your head as a 15-year-old in a secure unit? After once again, you know, you're right You only have one side of the story but what witnesses and but still after the three days in the police station I was kind of glad to be in the secure unit honestly like The image I had a joy in my head the secure unit didn't portray that Seville you kind of look like a kids home. They get locked down in Your door locks. Yeah, that was about it. I was kind of happy to be in there. Not the police station Even the way he's saying certain things like, you know, it was self-defense like It don't sound like he was out here trying to move maliciously. He was just trying, you know The kid is divining himself Wasn't the worst of experiences Like that question he could have went cap crazy He could have capped out But just the response the answer to the question was like Oh, okay How long was you in this secure unit for six months and you started getting evidence from the trial while you was in there? Yeah, we're in that two three months of being in there I started getting evidence that a bit more every week or every two weeks until three about what what paperwork you was reading the scene Um, a lot of paperwork like a lot of statements from people at the party A lot of statements from showcase party Like the people that was on his side a lot of statements from people that was on my side Yeah, just a whole lot of things Which I guess is a bit mind-blowing to me because when I'm speaking to a lot of people in that world Yeah, the number one rule is you don't talk to the police Definitely and that was a big point for me Realizing how fate this street life is In my career anyway like from 15 I knew that a lot of people don't stand on what they mean Yeah, and then when you just reading the statements, what were the statements saying and who who was saying what? Um, just a lot of saying that yeah, it's done it. Um, how we done it. Um describing hand motions Yeah That's it anything you can think of Anything you can think of the things that shouldn't people shouldn't be saying that people say And when you're reading these statements, what's going through your head? Once you click this video, you'll be taken to usdca.com slash maps from here You can click on any states and get a complete break that I know I just I just didn't believe in the street stuff normal honestly That I felt like they was meant to be the Savages standing on what they're saying and they wasn't And then tell me about when you went to court Oh when I went to court Hello, how long was your court case? My court case So what the trial so my trial was I think it was four weeks, you know Four to five weeks and I think it took them an extra week to come with the verdict But yeah, trial was a bit hectic traveling from Bristol to London every day. It was a bit. Yeah So it taught me through I guess the whole trial from the start to finish um So They've picked the jury um I've given my plea with knock your e And then I think it was for the prosecution to serve their evidence They didn't really have much evidence. They had no um cloven No knife No cc tv You know, I'm just character witness statements. That's it witness statements. That's all they had um They had no knife no cloven. What do you do? What happened to That's tough Did you say you was confident going to the court guys? All right, I'll say about 60 40 60 percent being confident I was confident because of the evidence that they had I didn't think they had enough evidence to prove that I intended to kill him Yeah, I don't think they had the evidence wasn't pretty strong But yeah, it was just about me proving my point and getting my side of the story across clearly And what was the strongest evidence that I was throwing? The strongest evidence The strongest evidence was probably my family saying that I came home and said I'd done something That was probably the strongest evidence But how did you feel when you heard that? I'm a bit upset, but as I get older you can't blame no one you put someone in it The dodgy situation you don't know where the outcome is going to be in it Actually, and I guess talk me through the highs and the lows of the trial for you um I guess the high in the high in the trial for me was on that the second day they bought out um the suspected murder weapon And it had shook his blood on it And I knew for a hundred percent sure that that that wasn't a murder weapon. So from that day I was kind of 100% sure that that was one of their knives And that would have come out positively for me if that was found true Yeah, but yeah in the end of it was um He's probably facts because there would be traces of his dna on that knife if it was the murder weapon And forensics would would have found that From a private investigator like a private forensic like his own To run their own test With fingerprints on a knife and showcase blood on the but yeah in the end of it was um His brother's fingerprints on a knife and showcase blood on the knife So yeah, he must have been touching himself and then realized oh shit. I've got a knife Then you know, his brother must have taken it and try hide it or something like that but Yeah, about two knives got found Both with the brother's fingerprints and one with showcase blood on it And what would you say was the lowest part of the trial? Yeah, you said in america would I say a person would also be acquitted in this situation? Yes, for sure It's a self-defense It depends what state though, but but yeah No, no it's self-defense. He was in the house party. He ran and got that like the knife from the kitchen so yeah definitely It would have been self-defense I guess the lowest part of the child was um Seeing the the prosecution make up lies or narratives to suit What they're trying to say To try and make me look even worse than the situation actually was So yeah, that was probably the worst part of the trial haven't taught me through the verdict The verdict was not guilty on the self-defense Um, basically meaning that it was a lawful killing That I defended myself But what reaction did you have at that stage or what went for you? Oh In that stage I was actually in the secure unit. So I wasn't actually in court because for the verdict They was trying to find out For about a week or so So they didn't want to keep sending me from Bristol to court from Bristol to London every day So yeah, I was just waiting for the verdict. They come through I think I was in English to me process English education Called me telling me my solicitor wants to speak to me I was thinking that maybe this is some new evidence or something or maybe they got something better to tell me Then yeah, they said they got my verdict Um, yeah, Wednesday said I got my they got my verdict I was just sitting in a room waiting for them to bring my verdict hot pounding that fuck Yeah, and then Um, the juror stand stood up and told me yeah and not kill you on the self-defense Most amazing feeling in the world literally That must been yeah, like you said, bro. That must been saying that though I don't think I can match that feeling ever again. Honestly. No, you can't. What was you looking at time wise? Uh Going on the case facts I don't think I would have got murdered Ever that even if I got found guilty. I don't think I would have got murdered Just the fact that he got caught with his knife and there was fingerprints on it Yeah, so I would have got mindset or something. So I probably would have said 15 Maybe 12 do half something like that. I don't think I would have got like a 25 or A 17 do the whole stretch And was you nervous every day in that school unit? Yes Hmm Nervous as in what in terms of my case or nervous as in being in a secure unit I guess in terms of the case and what what could happen Not really, you know, there was like a few people that were that got sentenced for murder and they got manslaughter And their situation was a lot more different to mine like A guy's a guy's stepdad Um was abusing his mom And he and then his brother Stepped him up multiple times He's died and he got 12 new six Yeah, I was saying and I was just because of the fact that he was abusing His mother, you know, I mean, so you put someone in a life or death situation I kind of knew that My case was going to be a bit different to his but Using the facts should be fine You know, I mean And then you've been released and come home and what was life like then? I kind of thought it was going to go back to normal, you know, but it never did honestly Never did it never went back to normal I never moved back to peckham like I was meant to like I thought I was going to I never went back to my original home after that So, yeah, it's just been Couldn't you couldn't Yeah, they in China Find mine normal again Yeah, so was there any repercussions when you come home? Um, no, no repercussions with more death threats than anything else That's it more death threats He said basically what he's saying if you're nobody else all verbal Well, give me context for their threats for all people say They're gonna get what's coming to you one day. You're probably you're dead But get back got no time things fam. But It just just words Got no time for how does that affect you because at 15 16 here and that's I'm pretty sure it's not good for your mental health I feel like it affected me for a while until I realized people was just going to say anything to suit their story You know, I mean so whatever story they was trying to push Whatever information they felt that was true or not. They were just going to push it to the front of the story It should be the front of the line like How would you say that that instance changing? I don't feel like he snitched see self-defense And at the same time not one time in this whole scenario. Did he ever say I was moving out here moving like a gangster? I didn't hear it Just now I interpreted anything That I was a child life All your mindset Um, I'm a bit more calculated on where I go uh I'm kind of Clued up on this street stuff. It don't really don't really mean nothing You don't really get nothing positive from this street life It doesn't make you bad to murder somebody Anyone can do it Literally, it's just about Making decisions Honestly on what you want to do and what you don't want to do. All right, peter And that's what what advice would you give to guest people who are in that road life for 15 16 there? Yeah be yourself Be yourself when the mob is right or wrong because you're not gonna regret being yourself Honestly, it's good advice. Just be yourself. Be true to yourself Whatever you really want to do you chase it don't chase it because your friends are doing that Don't chase it because you see something on TV Just do it before you genuinely genuinely want to do it. That's good advice Just take time reflect on what you want to do and live your life the way you want to live it And if you had one wish, what would that be? If I had one wish If I had one wish so I probably just Better my family's life in general financially health wise uh, honestly, I just Build an empire from my family. That's what I would do if I had one wish And where are you today in your life? What's going on there with you? um I'm going uni studying music production. Um Yeah, I'm just trying to build my life back Uh, yeah, that's it. I'm doing music Trying to release a couple songs just trying to find my sound at the moment I feel like I found my sound but it's just um the direction I want to go So yeah, it's just about releasing music getting better with my production skills And yeah, that's it. And before we finish this is there anything that you want to say? I'm not really You don't might know me as s and r s I'm going to be changing my name to so many L's So if you see so many L's all right I said everything I had to say man. See a little like comment subscribe turn on your post All right people everybody