 probably relatively short as we all will prepare to go out into our communities for a national night out. We have lots of communities having events and I hope you'll join your neighborhood if you have an opportunity to. With that, Madame Clerk, could you call the roll? Yes sir. Mr. Brown. Here. Ms. Herbert. Here. Dr. Bussles. Here. Mr. Brennan. Present. Mr. McDowell. Mr. Duvall. Present. Mayor recommend. I am here. I do want to note that Reverend McDowell is not here this afternoon. He's not feeling well or he would be with us. So keep him in your prayers. With that, could you stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, please? Allegiance to flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, a nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Heavenly Father, please bless this gathering, this wonderful city we live in. Please keep us forever mindful of our civic duty, but also our duty to you to look after the people of Columbia. Please continue to bless this city and bless all those in attendance tonight and we thank you for all your many blessings. Amen. Yeah, we have the adoption of agenda. We approve the agenda with the 511 changes, removing item 11, removing item 11 from the consent agenda so that we are talking about items 2 through 10 and 12 through 21. Amen item 23, which is the election council members district 2 and 3 and one at large seat and to combine ward 21 at ward 29 and add ward 33, Martin Luther King part defer items. Item 24, which is the design development review commission, ADRC. We got a motion. Is there a second? Second. Any further discussion, questions, concerns? Seeing none, hearing none, Madam Clerk, could you read the roll, please? Mr. Brown, Ms. Herbert, Dr. Bussles, Mr. Brennan, Mr. Duvall, may I recommend? Aye. Thank you. Your first item tonight is council's ask to approve the July 18th 2023 work session and council meeting minutes. Skipped over public input for any item on the agenda. Do we have a sign-up list for any item on the agenda? Thank you, ma'am. I do not see where anyone has signed up to speak on items listed on the agenda. I move approval of the July 18th work session and council meeting minutes. Is there a second? Any further discussion, corrections? Hearing none, seeing none, Madam Clerk, could you read the roll? Mr. Brown, Ms. Herbert, Dr. Bussles, Mr. Brennan, Mr. Duvall, may I recommend? Aye. Thank you. Next item up is council's ask to approve the consent agenda, items 2-10. Consent agenda is items 2-10 and items 12-21. I move approval of the consent agenda. Is there a second? We have a second. Any further discussion, questions? There's an extreme amount of funding spent here. A lot of it continuing to invest in our water and sewer as we made those commitments and continue to follow through with those. Very excited that we're continuing to move that ball on repair and maintenance at the same time and our capital improvement program. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none, seeing none, Madam Clerk, could you read the roll? Mr. Brown, Ms. Herbert, Dr. Bussles, Mr. Brennan, Mr. Duvall, may I recommend? Aye. Thank you. Item 11, council's ask to approve AIA amendment for project SS 7568, a construction manager at risk CMAR project for Saluda River Force Main Extension as requested by Columbia Water, awarded to McClammon Associates in an amount not to exceed $11,741,486.01, which includes contingency. This firm is located in Little Mountain, South Carolina. Mr. Mayor. Yes, sir. I asked to this item be put on taking off the consent agenda so we could discuss it a little bit and I've asked that Mr. Shealy answer some questions that I have on this. I'm very interested in this particular item because it may lead in the future to go in and cross the Saluda River with a bridge that would be partly owned by West Columbia, but it would contain the sewage line that we're talking about here or a part of the sewage line that we're talking about here. And to me, that section that's being discussed as a possible site for the bridge is one of the most historic sites in that it's the rapids created by the old mill that was there. And it's also one of the most scenic spots. It's the rapids that people see when they come and park in the parking lot that the city has built. If you'll note, going down the river, there is a bump out in the walkway there that was designed because the rapids can be used for training people that are going to be kayaking. When we had the Atlanta Olympics, those rapids were used as training grounds for crews that were going to be in the Atlanta Olympics. Since then, the river alliance has worked with SC&G and now Dominion to measure the output of Lake Murray dam that could create level one, two, three, four and five rapids. So if they wanted a four, they would let out a certain amount of water and they could train in level four. If they wanted a five, they can do that. I think we need to carefully consider the impact on future development of the river when we talk about this. I have a couple of questions about the technical stuff that's on this one. It is putting in a 48-inch line where there is an existing 42-inch line. And I wanted to know from Mr. Shealy if that six-inch increase was going to be enough to take care of the effluent, let's say, that is going to be going down there. So thank you for the opportunity to comment a little bit. Specifically to the size of the line, this is a section of line that's over on the West Columbia side of the river, buried gravity infrastructure that we're looking to asking for approval for tonight. It doesn't deal with the river crossing. That'll be a forthcoming request, either whether it's bored under the river or an aerial crossing via bridge. The trenchless technology that is mentioned is boring under the old soluta mill ruins that are just down adjacent to the zoo's botanical garden property. So protecting those ruins and boring under the ruins so we don't get into the historical issues there. That's included and contemplated in this. The sizing of the line, we have not had sanitary sewer overflows on that section with a 42 because there's a fairly steep grade to the line. But planning for the future flows, we do believe a 48 is more than adequate to handle what we're doing. The condition of that 42-inch line also leads us to need to replace that section. So it's a deteriorated portion. We're slightly up sizing. The capacity part of this project is really driven by the phase to come, how we extend the force main that's on the city of Columbia side of the river, extend it down toward the zoo, and then how we cross the river in time to this gravity section that we're asking for approval for this evening. So those tie in and so I'll pause there and see if that helps. Okay. This area is either in or on the border of being an area where we will not be able to treat anymore unless this line goes in. Yes, sir. There are some capacity restrictions that upstream that would create some potential moratoriums if we don't address this. And also this hasn't happened, thankfully, in the last two years. But three years ago, we had a very wet seat wet period in January and we had some sanitary sewer overflows to that happened along the greenway right downstream of the zoo. Because of some of the hydraulic backups that are happening in this project is to address that keep us to assist us in handling that additional capacity and not spilling sanitary sewer into the lower saluta. I'm going to make the motion to approve prove this first reading of this ordinance. But I would like to have the West Columbia people come over and share with us to design of any potential bridge. And for you and the West Columbia people to tell us what a bridge with a sewage line on it will look like going across the most scenic part of the saluta river. Yes, sir. We'll absolutely look forward to that presentation and kind of kind of go through some of the options that we looked at to get across the river in a way that that doesn't deter from the beauty and the scenic nature of what we're talking about and still create satisfies our objectives, finding out about West Columbia's plans and maybe working together in collaboration to hopefully enhance things there will be really important. That design contract, that memorandum of understanding will be forthcoming for y'all to consider at a later date. We'll be sure and we'll make sure that West Columbia is here and that we're also here to talk about that and brief y'all on what the plans are so you can more fully understand what we would hope to do. Okay. Thank you. I'll make the motion that we approve first reading of item 11 on this contract. Do and we'll have second reading on schedule. It's just a one. It's just a one reading. I think we can have second reading because this is not going to actually do the bridge crossing. Is that right? Yes, sir. At my understanding, we're just approving the contract. So it's not an ordinance or a resolution for multiple reasons. The question just comes around. How are we going to assure at this stage we approve the concept of the con contract? Well, what about if there's adjustments to take in account for any changes there? I think we need to have some flexibility there is that can that be negotiated with Shannon and her team? Yes, sir. There have to be some changes there once we approve it. Mr. Mayor, this is set up to where this portion of the contract is standalone and it wouldn't change whether or not we did an aerial crossing or board the river. So it's independent of the river crossing. The same contract will be doing the work, but we wouldn't change any of the technical components to start in ending location so it can stand independently. Sounds good. So we have a motion. Is there a second? Second. Any other questions? Discussions? Hearing none. Seeing none, Madam Clark, could you read the roll? Mr. Brown? Aye. Ms. Herbert? Aye. Dr. Bustle? Aye. Mr. Brennan? Yes. Mr. Duvall? Aye. Mayor Rickman? Aye. Thank you. Item 22 is an ordinance first reading ordinance number 2023-088 granting encroachment to capital city financial partners, care of Michael Norris and Josh Bradley for the use of the right-of-way area of the 6200 block of Garner's Ferry Road. Second. We've got a motion and a second. Any further discussions? Be a nice improvement there. Madam Clark, could you read the roll? Mr. Brown? Aye. Ms. Herbert? Aye. Dr. Bustle? Aye. Mr. Brennan? Yes. Mr. Duvall? Aye. Mayor Rickman? Aye. Thank you. Item 23 is a resolution for the election Councilman Duvall had made an amendment at the start of this while we were sitting here. Eric and I were notified of one more change to that so I will read out your entire amendment along with the one more district or one more ward that's changing. So amendment item 23 resolution number R2023-063 authorizing notice of 2023 election for council members from District 2, District 3 and 1 at large seat to combine Ward 21 at Ward 29 and at Ward 33 Martin Luther King Park and combine Ward 2 at Ward 30. Motion to approve. Got a motion. Is there a second? Second. Motion is second and we'll make sure that these changes get sent out on multiple times, correct? Yes, sir. Thank you very much. Madam Clerk could you read the roll? Yes. Mr. Brown? Aye. Ms. Herbert? Dr. Bustle? Aye. Mr. Brennan? Yes. Mr. Duvall? Aye. Mayor Rickman? Aye. Next up is City Council reports referrals and new business. Do we have any committee reports at this time? How about referrals to committee? Uh we're going to refer the um which one are we going to refer Madam Clerk? Was it dealing with animal services? I'm not sure. Oh yeah I would like to make a referral to discuss the pet licensing program for animal services to the health social and environmental affairs committee. Okay any others? I don't think so. All right hearing none saying none. Madam Clerk could you read the roll? Was there a second? I apologize. I'm sorry. Do we have a second? Second. Thank you. Mr. Brown? Mr. Mayor maybe we do need to make another referral. We need to have a meeting of the short-term rental committee that composed of Mr. Brennan, Ms. Herbert and myself. We have a couple of small amendments that need to be discussed in a public meeting before we get to September when the permits have to be issued. Okay well there was a motion on the floor for Dr. Bussell's referral. So why don't we amend, will you amend that motion? I'd like to make an amendment to my motion. I'd like to refer animal services to health social and environmental affairs and I'd like to propose a reconvening of the short-term rentals ad hoc committee to discuss potential amendments before September. Thank you. There's a second to that amended. Got a second? Madam Clerk could you read the roll? Mr. Brown? Aye. Ms. Herbert? Dr. Bussells? Aye. Mr. Brennan? Yes. Mr. Duvall? Aye. Mayor Rickoman? Aye. Thank you. Thank you. No new business? We'll go to public input. We inadvertently left it off the agenda but we do have three individuals signed up to speak. All right. Who is Mr. Regisola? I'm going to make this very short. I've got the ruling Martin versus City of Boise, Idaho on urban camping. I just want to read this one clause this one statement in here. Under opinion, it's from Berzon Circuit Judge, the law in its majestic equality forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets and to steal their bread, by Anatole France, the red lily. We consider whether the Eighth Amendment's prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment bars the city from prosecuting criminally for sleeping outside on public shelter when those people have no home or other shoulder to go to, we conclude that it does. So we need to try to consider what these people are going through and do we have a place to put them or are we just going to put them in jail because they have no place to go? There are a lot of options for folks and there are a lot of folks who choose not to do it. Reggie, let's be honest. The biggest problem we have right now is folks not accepting the services that are available to them and what we're moving forward with is not to go throw people in jail because that's not solving a problem. We're trying to make a big push forward to move people into wraparound services to provide them a shelter. We had 24 beds open the other week that were never used and that's been a constant thing throughout our community. So as we go through this, if something comes up that you feel is unjust or a thing, then we'll deal with it at that time. But to just blanket say that there's not opportunities for folks is not a true statement. There's not enough beds to shelter these people and the rapid shelter is not working yet. You cannot use the word permanently housed in any of these situations because transitions use that word every year saying they permanently housed but a majority of those people end up back in the street. So that's not permanently housed and we don't have enough beds between the two shelters and this has a clause in there about you can't send people to faith-based places like Oliver Gospel that insist you go to their church when it's not your religion and it also restricts the transitions that has struck regulations for staying there so we don't have that option. Here are more opportunities for people. And the rapid shelter I can tell you some of the people I have seen down there are only there to have a bed temporarily. They're never going to get into any program and then they are never going to get into a house. Well every person that we do get into a permanent bed or into the wraparound services or into mercy or anywhere else is one less person living on the street so I think we're doing the right thing because what we have been doing is not working Reggie. Let's be honest with each other it is not working. It doesn't work because we want to prosecute homelessness. Let's push something forward that works. Mr. Mayor. Yes. I just wanted to ask Mr. Reggie if you could make sure the staff gets a copy of that. I'm leaving. I'm not that quick. I have to take my time and read it. Thank you. Thank you. Ms. Erica Brown. Mr. Thomas Smosley. Good evening. I came to this town when I was 27 years old and believe it or not I'm still 27 years old. August two years ago my wife died 42 years of marriage. She made me a man. The homeless issue. Wow. Gentrified Elmwood Park the epicenter of homelessness on the way to the railroad tracks behind my house about a month ago a Caucasian man drunk walking down gas in the street middle of the day. They called four or five police cars and took them to the hospital. I was a city court judge back in the 80s one of the first cases I heard the police officer were going on riding down near the University of South Carolina and there was a man sitting in a parked car asleep pulled him outside the car and he was what public drunk. Without a lawyer I said not guilty. A couple of other cases happened and Chief Austin called me and I had to give him my position as a city court judge. Last night every day I can't go to the gas station. I can't go I can't go to the gas station or else somebody's bumming from me lying about their woman anybody to get a dollar. I seen a guy named Jackie known in the overpowered neighborhood got 30 people in that neighborhood that he cuts grass for and when some of them go out of town he takes care of their house and yet they're still he's riding his bicycle coast by and was blinded yesterday because somebody with Palma a long company threw a rock up against his face on a bicycle and he's riding around town blind. Yeah he's drinking, beer, drunk, the homeless issue. Auto-gospel mission. I'm down there in the cold beating drums watching the people at the Oliver gas mission give DUI tests to people to get to sleep over there. The right thing to do. My wife is one of her neighbors from Newberry South Carolina walking around here homeless. I meet the homeless and all of them got a place to go. They don't want to go there. Breaking man. I supported you man from here. Yeah I came to your swearing in ceremony. The Oliver gas mission have you done a title search from the Oliver gas mission? Have you done a title search? They got a restrictive coveted in their deed. They always supposed to be there. My hometown Washington DC two blocks from the capital two blocks from the capital is great nation. Speed limit is 20 miles an hour and the panhandlers will come up to your car and scare you to death in the nation's capital. So it's here amongst us and rightfully so as a reminder the faith-based churches and many good people that ride by these corners. Wow where did Christianity at? They shunned them homeless people. Mr. Mosley we thank you for being here. Speakers are a lot of three minutes. I made $50,000 off a homeless guy that had gotten run over right behind here and he was walking by my office with a broke leg. I said man you got a kid and he could have got way more money but he said you know I made $50,000 off a homeless person. So I don't know what we're going to do y'all but whatever y'all do just pray about it and it'll be all right. We're going to build a one-stop shop that has urgent care treatment center cafeteria outdoor space. That's too much that's too much too much mayor. You gotta find a place too many people walking around who aren't getting health care too many people who are not getting physical therapy. Too many people aren't getting the clinical help that they need so long term our plan is to build something where we can take care of those who are unsheltered in a place that they don't have to be pushed around town to find the services. That's our long-term goal. Yeah but whatever you do pray about it and I'm one amongst maybe a few that live amongst those people and I'm glad to see that the homeless camp is all for West Confederate by the bamboo stand back there. I've seen some good work I'm in touch with the police Kelly and their mama and but we gotta look we gotta do the right thing amongst the least of us and just pray about it and it'll be all right this too shall pass. Thank you so much. Thank you Mr. Mosley. Mayor can I say one quick thank you Mr. Mosley. I just wanted to acknowledge you being here hadn't seen you in a while but you were one of the examples for me as a young lawyer when I came out and so I'm just glad to see you today. Well I'm still practicing law my daughter's a lawyer hey let me give y'all something to brag about out of 811 Chester Street my humble beginning came Dr. Yusef Imani he's no longer Mosley we're already on brain surgeon with the Drill High School he's on surgery in China gone in Ethiopia then here comes Latifa Aisha Mosley Drill High School graduate she's playing the cello with an international orchestra in New York working on the PhD in medical anthropology she's got a master's degree from the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine then my oldest son Thomas he still has seizures but he got a degree from Benedict College then my baby daughter Kamari Naji Mosley she passed the Georgia bar and the South Carolina bar and is smart as a whip and then you know my wife Betty Joe died you know two years ago so I'm thankful I'm thankful. Those are all of the individuals that I've signed up sir. Mr. Mayor I make a motion to go into executive session for receipt of legal advice relating to a pending threatened or potential claim pursuant to SC code 30-4-S70A2. Abigail Hartberger versus the city receipt of legal advice related to matters covered by attorney client proof pursuant to SC code 30-4-S70A2 per and PFAS PFAS and PERS PFAS and PERS and discussion of negotiations innocent to propose contractual arrangements pursuant to SC code 30-4-S70A2 lobbyist. Mr. Brown. All right. Ms. Herbert. Dr. Bustles. Aye. Mr. Brennan. Yes. Mr. Duvall. Aye. Mayor recommend. Thank you.