 I love that alpha geek radio starts at the same time now. Oh does it alpha geek media video? I can just pop right up At least we think so seems to be working Here we go The Daily Tech news show with Tom Merritt is brought to you by wonderful awesome patrons like you if that's not you Join this party now go to patreon.com slash ace detect and give a little because it helps a lot That's patreon.com slash a c e d t c t This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday October 8th 2015 I'm Tom Merritt joining me today Allison Sheridan host of the no-silla cast How are you Allison? I'm excited to be here Tom. It's a big day big day got a lot of news a lot of news Well, we can do we actually do have a lot of news today. It's one of those Amazonian well, I can't say Amazon because Amazon's a company. It's the Mississippian River of news it's not necessarily deep, but it's wide actually Mississippi gets pretty deep Shall we forge ahead? Let's do it TechCrunch reports Facebook has launched alternatives to the like button represented by Emojis because who doesn't love emojis or hate them or be able to express their emotions about emojis with an emoji They're called Facebook reactions in addition to like you will now have or the company is testing love laughter happiness shock sadness and anger Reactions will be tested for users in Ireland and Spain. I don't know Facebook is calling them emotional countries actually They said they're insular. They don't have as many international friends. So it keeps the test contained That's what Facebook said and it'll be available on the mobile app as well as the website And show up in all newsfeed posts. Also, now you're gonna make this our main discussion Later on in the show. We will we'll express all of our emotions regarding this That's right. That's gonna be fun But moving on ZD net reports Amazon had a few more cloud announcements at re-invent Thursday Amazon and unveiled a beta Internet of Things platform including an SDK networking and security Certificates Amazon also will add a new instance type to AWS called X1 Which will support two terabytes of memory There will also be a burstable mode for customers with moderate traffic that want to use up extra processing power credit and Amazon introduced the EC to container registry the AWS mobile hub for app building and will now let devs write Lambda functions in Python Yeah And your Python No in all seriousness a lot of folks very excited about this in Amazon firing on all the guns Cloud-wise trying to maintain their dominance in that arena I like everything in there except I would have liked to have heard the word security a little more than in the article It was it was just sort of and young and then like some security stuff You know, it might be a focus, but the way the article was written at least it was just sort of an afterthought Yeah, well, and maybe that's a bad article writing. I'm not picking on ZD net when I say that I'm just saying you you should you should as a customer out there Of course investigate what kind of security and encryption on our on it any product that you're looking for Because you didn't actually watch the announcement. I know I didn't know I didn't yeah Dell launched several new laptops in the XPS line the XPS 13 and the XPS 15 are very similar to their predecessors But with even slimmer bezels faster processors and more storage the XPS 12 got all the attention It's very much like a surface pro a tablet that flips into a keyboard and ours technica says that Dell Develops that keyboard from the company's latitude line of laptops keys have a 1.9 millimeter to travel Keyboard connects and disconnects easily no hinges or latches. It's one-hand operation Which means you probably not gonna pick this thing up by the screen or at least you'll just end up with the screen if You do XPS 13 starts at seven hundred ninety nine dollars the XPS 15 at nine hundred ninety nine dollars Both of those are available to order today and that XPS 12 with the detachable screen is bundled with its keyboard Starts at nine hundred ninety nine dollars coming in mid November Hate it when I see people pick up laptops by the screen anyway, don't you and that just kind of make you I do it all the time. Oh Yeah, I don't want to see it. I don't want to see it. How can they do a slimmer bezel? That is the sexiest display out there right now There was not much bezel left and they they're almost got it edge-to-edge. It's it's pretty sweet looking Yeah, yeah, that thing is just so pretty Well, SP Sheridan wants us to mention that alphabet subsidiary Google Inc. bought the domain ABCDFGHI JKLMNOPQRSDUVWXYZ.COM It is currently not active. He gave me that one on purpose Alphabet's website is currently at ABC.XYZ and Alphabet spokesman's told the Wall Street Journal We realized we're missing a few letters in ABC.XYZ. We're just being thorough WXYZ it's really easy to type I want them to do it. No, web page not available. Why would they why would they okay? First of all, they had to buy this from somebody else. It was not unregistered So they must have paid a little more than normal and yet they still haven't pointed it anywhere. Yeah, why not? Yeah That heard little little record change there The Verge is one of the outlets reviewing a new camera from a company called light the L16 Has 16 camera modules in it each with a 13 megapixel sensor five of the modules have a 35 millimeter focal length Five or 70 millimeters and six are 150 millimeters You control it all with a five inch touchscreen on the back The device uses computational photography to give the user an effective zoom of 35 to 150 millimeters and images up to 52 megapixels you can pre-order the light today for $1,299 and if you wait it'll cost you $1,699 after November 6th light expects to ship the cameras in late summer 2016 From a technology standpoint, this is pretty interesting They they put in you know mirrors to fold the the optical train as it went through the the device and but it's It is one of the ugliest things I've ever seen. It's it's a black box just covered with lenses on the back It's it's really really pretty ugly But I could see maybe Incorporating that into some other kind of device that you would use as a professional maybe but and that's a a lot of a lot of Time mess around going wait wait wait. Let me get on the other 150 millimeter lens Not this 150 like there's more than well No, that's the brilliance of the interface according to the Verge is that you just control it all from behind Right, so you know it's so it's which it's easier than the DSLRs is what light Is trying to say because it's small you throw it in a bag You don't have to switch out lenses you just say zoom and it automatically does computational photography and switches the lenses for you Yeah, but they referred in the article to having a switch to it to a one of the 150 millimeter lenses Not doing that necessarily automatically. I think it was automatically It was combining using the computational photography was to combine the images And that's when they were talking about making the giant image that you could change where the focus was after the fact It's interesting from a technical standpoint, but I still think it's ugly as in and well Design wise the device itself. You think it's ugly. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, apparently it doesn't have the pop is what the Verge said of a DSLR But it does produce good-looking images and that's really what it's all about Sean O'Cain was the one who wrote up the review for the Virgin. He makes the point and I think this is the most salient one that Even if the images are of an acceptable quality that you would replace a DSLR with it The problem is anybody who is going to spend 1299 is probably gonna want to go for the full control of their of their lenses And because there are you know an amateur or not an amateur But they're a hobbyist who's like really into spending that much money They'll probably want to go ahead and spend the extra money on an actual DSLR Whereas the person who's like maybe maybe I want to trade off for convenience won't want to spend this much money on it Yeah, and remember that those lenses are small too. Those aren't big pieces of high quality optical glass. Those are you know Tiny little elements. They're not they're not the optics that you get in a DSLR So I still still a little dubious and on how well that would work Anyway, whether you'd get distortions in the lenses and for for the size and the quality They can't possibly be that good in that size camera, but actually I think I think what would be true is consumers might not buy it but Professionals might buy it and their DSLR and this lens and that a lot of money as a second as a second thing to have just in case 1699 especially after it goes up. Ah, it's a it's a business expense All right All right Well coolant SV wanted your US Verizon users with unlimited plans to know that Verizon is going to raise your monthly rate $20 per line per month starting November 15th. That was again the unlimited users unless you're in a contract Then you don't get hit with the new charges until your contract is up Good to know US Verizon users. We actually had one guy who emailed us and actually he said I've grandfathered in on these Verizon unlimited plans, so I don't care about all these new plans. I Feel like he made this happen because he emailed that to us today and then Verizon announced this today camera sensor maker Sony has bought soft kinetic a startup specializing in depth sensing tracking cameras soft kinetics cameras use a technique called time of flight in Which a laser is used to measure the environment by calculating the time it takes for the laser light to bounce off objects and reflect back to the Sensor this would allow users to manipulate virtual objects using their own hands soft kinetic has previously licensed technology to Sony and Intel Among others so it's a similar system to what the connect uses for Microsoft Obviously everybody jumps to the fact that the PlayStation VR could make use of this at some point in the future But it's just as likely that Sony is saying hey our most successful business right now is selling sensors So let's buy another sensor company that makes camera sensors that can sense things for cars and cameras And sure we might use it on our own VR kit. Why not? Yeah, this I'd like to know what more this does because that isn't real news We've been bouncing lights off of things to find out how far away they are for a really really long time Sending any kind of energy and measuring back is pretty much the way this stuff works So I couldn't quite figure out what was great and new Well, the news is that Sony acquired the company that does this they do it really well And Sony has been paying them to license it for various things like PlayStation VR So now they they'll be able to keep it all in-house So it's an indicator of where they're probably going with certain things great starting October 9th the Sony ps4 will drop from $400 to 350 in the u.s. And from 449 to 429 in Canada the price drops if I Similar wait say it again the price drops follow a similar move in Japan last month No word if the UK or Europe will see price changes So if your birthday is coming up wait a little bit Yeah, and the ps4 if in UK or Europe anyway in the u.s. You might as well go ahead PS4 now the same price as the Xbox one Back in February uber announced a database with 50,000 driver names and license numbers had been improperly accessed by someone who was using an uber digital security key a copy of the key Had been inadvertently posted on github in March of 2014 uber examined the IP address of every visitor to that github page During the time that the key was posted and visible on that page They eliminated all the IPs from suspicion But one that one IP address belonged to an unnamed Comcast subscriber though it did not match the IP address used in the unauthorized access that was behind a VPN So there's no knowing who that really was US magistrate judge Laurel Bieler ruled that uber could subpoena the identity of the Comcast customer anyway Two sources familiar with the matter have told Reuters that the Comcast customer in question is Lift CTO Chris Lambert and lift told Reuters it investigated the matter and found no evidence of its employees accessing the uber database I like how carefully this whole segment was written because it doesn't say that lift CTO Chris Lambert accessed the database of uber drivers But it leaves this trail that leaves sort of the Understanding that that's probably what happened Well, it could have been his kid right because you can't tie an IP address to a person anyway What what what is probably true and again we're relying on unnamed sources talking to Reuters But they did get to they got two verifications that CTO Chris Lambert is His name is tied to an IP address of a computer that visited the github page that had the key Doesn't mean he took the key just because I mean lots people visited the page and looked at it Doesn't mean they took the key doesn't mean that he did anything with the key It honestly doesn't even mean that he visited the page anybody Using his IP address if his Wi-Fi access port was open if the kids were messing around going to github forums Remember an IP address is not a human but it does seem likely that if someone said hey One of uber's digital the keys is available on a forum that if you're the CTO of a company in the same situation as uber I'll I'll lift you're gonna want to look and see like really what how did they can I tell how they got it? You know just in defending your own security You're gonna want to visit that page to see what the situation is I would think yeah There certainly are some real good technical reasons if I was to the CTO of lift And I knew this it happened to uber and I had the ability to go investigate for myself and understand How it happened to them it wouldn't as a CTO it would not be interesting to me to who those drivers were It would be interesting to me. How did that hack happen? Yeah on the other hand? I mean, it's certainly you can write a mystery novel where the CTO takes that key uses a Swedish VPN and steals the database for whatever reason I mean that's possible to Well a more Amazon news fortune magazine reports that Amazon has launched handmade an e-commerce site for artisan goods The site offers jewelry home decor artworks stationery party supplies kitchen and dining items and furniture Amazon said handmade is factory free Possibly a poke at Etsy's recent move to help connect artisans with factories Handmade is launching with 5,000 sellers and more than 80,000 products. There is macrame. I checked Good good because we don't have enough macrame I love the whole concept of of the handmade thing going crazy like this But I also see the value of if I hand make something and then it turns out everybody wants one And I can't macrame those little you know doilies fast enough that I could have a factory do it I don't know that I think that's got some some value to yeah You know, I think this is the marketplace at work, right Etsy is doing a good thing by saying hey artisans Who want to step up their game and work with factories? Here's how you do it. I I know friends I have other podcasters who make a lot of money because they decided to stop hand making Technology or products that they were selling and work with factories to sell them and their high quality products all the same Nothing wrong with what Etsy is doing But it's very smart of Amazon to get in there and try to take advantage of like hey folks Etsy is getting pretty big for its Britches you want an artisan single origin place, right? We're the place because you have to be when you start out That's that's just where you are so it's good marketing on Amazon's part I think it's interesting that they're marketing it as a service under the Amazon services section So it gives it that feeling of like you're ordering up a handmade item from a person and you you know got that Individual connection through Understand that because it's it took me a long time to realize that when I bought from Amazon Amazon wasn't actually making these things or or even The reseller I was really going through it was really somebody else and it took me order dog food from Amazon You thought Amazon was making the dog food well. No, no, but but you know, it's it's 12 levels removed now You know you look at it. You don't know who you're buying you don't know whether Amazon has it in a warehouse Amazon is contracted someone to have it in a warehouse Someone else is storing their stuff in Amazon's warehouse. Someone is fulfilling it directly from home like they really have made that transparent You're right. Yeah, and the fulfilling by somebody else really starts to you don't realize It's happening until you go to return something and all of a sudden the experience is bad Well, you gotta pay attention to that it will tell you that but it's yeah Yeah, I just didn't notice for a long time. I am aware now, right good good public service announcement ours Technica reports that researchers with centrum of viscund and informatica in the Netherlands in Ria in France and Nanyang Technological University in Singapore have released a paper estimating that the cost to crack Shaw one compression functions with a collision attack is going to drop to somewhere between $75,000 and $120,000 this year that puts it well within the realm of organized crime Some companies have been pushing to extend permitted issuance of sha one HTTPS certificates through the end of 2016 Rather than ending them in January as has been planned and this new paper will probably give some ammo In fact, it does give some ammo to those arguing for migration to sha to no matter what the cost and not to extend Those shaw one certificates even if it's hard for a company to do so. I'd love to hear Darren kitchen weigh in on this one Yeah, well, he's been saying shaw one is broken. He's one of those security researchers like yeah, you don't want to use that It's been it's been broken for years So I don't think you'd have I don't want to put words in Darren's mouth, obviously But I guess he wouldn't have a lot of sympathy for people who want to continue to use sha one Yeah, yeah All right tech crunch reports at Singapore's postal services considering using drones for some mail deliveries Singpo said it is completed a trial where a drone from IDA labs flew a payload of one letter and one t-shirt Maybe it was a DTS t-shirt in a package for two kilometers The drone used has the capacity to carry up to a half a kilogram Fly at a height of up to 45 meters and travel a distance of 2.3 kilometers There's no target date yet for drone mail delivery, but just remember the drone always knocks twice That's because it's banging against your front door Again and again, I still love the idea of drone deliveries and I know people think it's all freaky and annoying But how many times you stuck behind a big old truck full of stuff being moved around your city making potholes What if it just went zz and left all the objections to drone deliveries are it will go wrong So my answer to that is that's why we test things and we try to make sure they won't go wrong And if we never did anything because there was a possibility of it going wrong We wouldn't have a highway system in cars So let's just be smart about it and try to make sure we do it right because I think it is worth doing for sure TechCrunch reports that Google has released an Android app to navigate public transportation in Delhi, India It's called the Delhi public transport app Good name of Google the app aggregates public transport information from maps and other Google services and lets users look up metro and bus timetables directions plan routes check schedules and receive news updates about service issues app is less than a megabyte And it can save information offline Hmm cold handy things if you're on a feature phone or you know one of the lower-end smartphones Yeah Transportation in Delhi is probably the most interesting thing I have ever seen. I am not kidding you goats cows sheep camels camels carrying goats Ward hogs Bicycles motorcycles cars trucks and buses. Yeah all in one like that's in it. I was only there for a day It's only just so we know So we make this clear to folks It's only the metro and bus timetables that are in there. You don't get the warthog timetable. Okay, that's a separate app Probably and the third party will write that they got the API third party party Netflix announced it is raising the price of its two stream tier from 899 a month to 999 a month for new users Existing customers will keep their current rate until October 2016 according to the verge remember the last time Netflix Raised their prices and there was a big outcry and then the time before that they talked about raising They're splitting the prices out DVDs and streaming and there was a like an internet revolt It's funny like this is Raising eyebrows. I would I would call it's not it's not like nobody's paying attention But I think people are getting used to the fact that oh these services. They'll be around for a while And they're gonna raise their prices. I read it. My reaction was didn't they already do that? Yeah, and they did That's right Finally Reuters reports that Indonesians are using a new public surveillance app that lets them upload photographs of municipal problems things like potholes broken traffic lights The app is called Clue KLUE and has 80,000 users may is 90% of the plate complaints are now followed up Unlike when the app launched and only 30% of complaints were followed up So the app is definitely having an effect Jakarta this year topped a list of 78 cities afflicted with the world's worst Traffic congestion according to Reuters. Do they have war talks? Is it QLUE? Yep Okay, I want this so bad. Why don't we have it here? Yeah, right? I mean, we're probably among those 78 cities here in Los Angeles So it's a great idea to to basically make it easy to report things because if I see a pothole And I think I should go home. I should look up the you know Department of Transportation website for the city. I should call the city works department. I should tell them where the pothole is I'm not gonna do it. No one's gonna do it. I mean, yeah, there's you that one guy out there says I've done this You would do it, but no one else is going to do it What this does is like, oh, I can whip out my phone take a picture GPS automatically says where it is press submit I might actually do that Right, right, you know LA roads are actually pretty good But the problem is they build them assuming it's never gonna rain which is a really good assumption But if it ever does they're apparently using water soluble asphalt. Yeah, and in Indonesia rains a lot So they probably have that's probably one of the reasons they have more potholes and that is a look at the headlines Hey folks submit your stories to us daily tech news show dot reddit dot com Let us know what stories you'd like us to discuss We get them from you and we put them in the headlines. It is one of the signals We look at tech meme our own RSS feeds Google news all kinds of places But one of the big ones we look at is daily tech news showed at reddit.com so get in there and make your voice heard Let's talk about reactions Allison when you heard that Facebook would be testing reactions in addition to the like button So on on mobile when you tap on like it'll give you a choice on the web If you hover your mouse over the like button, it'll pop out your choices Which emoji would you choose to represent your reaction to this story? I think I'd have to go with the surprise emoji Tom the while But but I'm a shock shock and surprise. Yeah, the the other kind of the Macaulay Culkin face emoji Yeah, I think that's the way I'd have to go because I I mixed feelings. I can't say I like it I don't know that I love it. I I'm not angry about it. So I got in the middle somewhere. I think I went ha ha It was laughter like oh They finally did it. I guess the or maybe surprised maybe I'll go with wow go with the shock because I Didn't think they would have negative emotions in here now sadness is a negative emotion But that's one I can maybe see but anger I Felt like what they were trying to do was we don't want to do dislike Mark Zuckerberg said that from the beginning like we Want to have some way of expressing dislike But we don't want to have a dislike button. We think that would just be misused Don't you think anger the anger emoji can be misused as well. It well it could be but there certainly is a place for it There's a if if someone posts a Memorial to their to their mother then your sad face is there, but they post something about something Ridiculously stupid happening in politics. You want your angry face, right? You're not you might be a little bit sad about it What if your candidate wins the election and you post the story and then a bunch of people put anger Yeah, that might be the new the new sounds down. Yeah I mean it essentially is it isn't is a way to thumbs down stuff I am curious to see what happens to the behaviors because I did an accidental study of what the like button means Recently Stephen I went to Big Bear camping and I posted this beautiful picture of this duck that I got Just it was just an awesome photograph and I worked on it and you know tailored it Just I was a beautiful picture got two likes I posted a noxious picture of Steve and I drinking gin and tonics on the deck going ha ha you have to work And we don't and I got like 45 likes I don't know that I would see like that often with this new system Well, actually I think what you found sort of plays into this which is a beautiful picture of a duck people look at and I'm not saying that your picture didn't move them But you know and in other words, they're like, oh, that's a really nice picture Whereas a picture of you guys taunting them and drinking made them laugh made maybe made them a little angry It provoked a bigger emotional reaction and what this is doing is saying well now you can have a palette of those emotions So instead of getting all those likes that you got before you might see a more fine-tuned These people were laughing these people were shocked these people were angry Angry faces coming in I think yeah You'd probably yeah, you'd have a few of those and is that ironic anger or is that real legitimate anger? I mean, it's a mix right of all of that stuff So I think the one thing that Facebook is doing well here is testing it as we mentioned in the headline It is only going to be available in Spain and Ireland now Facebook says as I mentioned That's because those two countries tend to have fewer international friends so they can sort of keep the cultural drift Isolated by saying okay, most Spanish people have Spanish friends most Irish people have Irish friends So we won't get too many cross-cultural Misinterpretations, but that implies that they're worried about that. So do you think they will have to after doing some of these tests? Create different emotional palates for different regions and would that be I mean can they create one that works for everybody in all countries? That that's a great question because two different things could happen It could work perfectly in these insular communities and be a disaster when you're talking across Internationally in which case this isn't a good test. Yeah Or it works as a disaster and you know it's a disaster that one or two things could happen just because it works There might not be the right answer. I I have found it fascinating my my often co-host Bart Brusch at Bart Buchatz is from Ireland and we have so many interesting conversations about Just the differences in the way we say things and what it means and and and words and language and these are two very English-speaking Countries and we mean completely different things in a lot of cases and so it will be interesting to see what happens Internationally, but it could be equally interesting within those countries. I just I wonder if they're gonna tell us what they find out That would be why wonder how much they'll tell us they'll tell us something. They'll say it was a success Yeah Maybe they'll report it in one of the emojis They'll be like Irish test happiness Spanish test sadness didn't work out that well 10 vex suggests there should be a shrug Also, you can't turn it off. This is the last point on this But you you as a user have to accept whatever emojis are thrust upon you Because Facebook says look if you as a user say no emojis a lot of my posts, it's confusing to other people They may think the website doesn't work because they're they're like, well, I can always put a happy face on things Why can't I put a happy face on Bob's? Profile I don't get it something's wrong. What if hardly anybody uses it? Well, that would be really interesting if everybody just keeps hitting like because it's the first option Yeah, or what about those people only only ever hit like and always hit like you got those friends, right? Where they're just like like like like like what are they gonna do? Well, maybe this will reduce that because it causes a second decision, right? So instead of being able to hit the button, they're gonna hover and a thing pops out. It may slow them down. Actually Little Yeah Let's get to our pick of the day Kevin wrote in his pick is Disney movies anywhere and this is why recently his three-year-old daughter inherited an old Kindle fire tablet that was otherwise gathering dust Kevin says I purchased several Disney movies through Amazon so she could watch them I also have a small collection of Disney movies that I'd previously purchased through iTunes to watch on my Apple TV and until now I hadn't been able to watch my Amazon movies on my Apple TV or vice versa Disney movies anywhere fixes that once I connected these accounts through this service I was able to see my entire Disney film library on all my devices service currently supports Apple Amazon Google Voodoo and Microsoft accounts and is available as an app on the web Hopefully this helps other platform agnostic Disney film lovers in the DTMS community That's pretty cool It's one of the reasons I buy most of the movies and TV shows are different But most of the movies I buy I try to buy them on Voodoo because Voodoo is a member of Disney movies anywhere and ultraviolet So if I buy it on Voodoo if it's Disney I can play it in all of these places that Kevin's talking about if it's not Disney I at least get an ultraviolet copy which can be transported to several others and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that someday Ultraviolet gets Apple and Google to sign up there. You know how I feel about ultraviolet Tom You're one of that story, right? Well, I used to feel I used to feel that way, too But I've sort of yeah, I would rather they all not have DRM at all But given the fact that that's not happening Disney movies anywhere in ultraviolet are basically the same thing I bought it. I bought an ultraviolet movie once from Sony I bought the the Blu-ray and it said it came with the ultraviolet movie That's that's a whole different that it didn't exist anymore, right? Because you didn't get to it fast enough and as I know That's just silly But if you're buying digitally now if you buy an ultraviolet That means that you can transport those rights to other ultraviolet supporting surface Existence expire though. No, like like this one. No, what happened to you on the Blu-ray was that they said look if somebody like Gets this as a remainder We're not good We don't want to give them a free digital copy because it was on sale because it didn't sell So they put an expiration date on that certificate, which is a bad idea, but they used to do that That's that's different than if you buy it through an ultraviolet vendor You then have the rights to that on other ultraviolet services So I bought so when Target happened and I got a bunch of free movies for signing up for the target Which then went away I kept all those movies because they were ultraviolet and they're all available for me in voodoo Same for Flickster Flickster gave me a couple free movies when I signed up They're part of ultraviolet. Those are all available in voodoo as well. That's good I do have to make sure anybody who hadn't heard the story here's the punchline I wrote to Sony and the movie I bought was district 9 and they said I couldn't have the ultraviolet version of District 9 because it expired but they offered me a copy of the Smurfs Well, that's equivalent Exactly. That's kind of what I thought Side note Someone pointed out to us on Twitter today for cord killers that YouTube now has a paramount channel that gives you free paramount movies Paramount owned by Viacom the company that sued YouTube because people were putting free movies up My head hurts. Yeah Did you want to did you want to promote your air conditioner because it's so hot? Yes, my pick of the day is a single room air conditioner called the Danby 14,000 BTU portable air conditioner It's never hot in California. I've lived here since I was 13 years old never needed an air conditioner in that entire time and I now have one in my room and it's it's the most wonderful thing ever Just really appreciating being cold for once Wow, I'm I don't run my air conditioner enough to get cold I'm afraid Well, I cold might be the wrong word. Yeah, but not sweating. That's good But I did have to turn it off for the show because it's Send your picks to us feedback at daily tech news show calm You can find my picks at daily tech news show comm slash picks got a bunch of messages today I asked people yesterday from non US countries to send us a note about how the carrier plans worked there and Nick did He said here in Australia We have had contracts for as long as I can remember But we also have the option of buying an unlocked phone outright and putting any carrier sim in that unlocked phone In the past as someone that has upgraded his iPhone every year It has been cheaper to buy an unlocked phone from Apple Find a cheap plan from a carrier and then sell the phone when the new model comes out However with the following Aussie dollar carriers offering cheap yearly upgrades and carriers bundling other services like Netflix and Apple music with their plans. I have found contracts are now anywhere from break even versus buying outright to being a better deal Just goes to show competing carriers can be good for the consumer. Thank you, Nick Do you want to link your spreadsheet that you're working on yet or do you need to fine-tune it some more? I'm getting pretty close. I could I could link that in yeah If you could throw that in there in our Google in our dock We'll have it in the show notes now Allison's working on a spreadsheet to show you Whether in the US anyway for the various payment plans. It's better to pay it off in installments or to buy up front I guess you nothing is better as a contract. I'm guessing I Kind of dropped out of the whole contract thing But yeah, it's what I'm trying to get people to do is to be aware that this this new phone every year thing Sounds really cool, but it is at a cost But it's not as it's not necessarily a bad thing to buy into one of those plans So I'm kind of trying to give people a couple of options Take a look at it that daily tech news show calm Natron wrote in and said I plugged in a USB on the go cable into my two-year-old Android phone I was able to connect a mouse and keyboard to my phone and some Android phones let you cast onto an HDTV I think Android might be a small step away from where Windows claims to be a computer You take everywhere that you connect to a mouse and keyboard if the whole idea takes off I bet Samsung or someone like them will create a dock for their Android phones Well with the pixel C running Android You have the opposite of that. So yeah, you're you're not that far off nature. Very interesting You can and you can run Microsoft Office and Android It's getting so fun. Yeah And then rich from lovely Cleveland just a short trip on 480 from seven Hills Wanted to piggyback off JP from seven Hills email from yesterday. He says continually for Windows didn't are sorry continuity for Windows Didn't seem like a game-changing feature to me until I watched the Verges interview with Sacha Nadella Well, it's mostly him going over corporate talking points among the more illuminating bits was that Microsoft sees continuity as a key feature To their phones in emerging markets where the only computer someone has may be their phone The ability to turn a phone into a usable desktop experience in that case could really shift the market in Microsoft's favor Or at least make it a substantial consideration Wouldn't be surprised if we see laptop hubs for Windows phones in those markets Thereby fulfilling the Halcyon promise of the Motorola Atrix the Motorola atrix. I remember you well. I was very excited about the Motorola atrix back in the day Yeah, I I think that is really interesting and I wonder if Microsoft can successfully sell phones at a affordable price with continuity and some kind of free use of Microsoft Office As a kind of allure into getting people used to using it You might see internet cafes that just rent you a dock space instead of renting you a computer You just plug your phone in and then you can use keyboard and mouse on and you don't have to buy them yourself You all you have to get is the phone. Yeah, that that that Microsoft announcement in general would just pretty much blew me away and I'm not a huge fan of their software, but the The hardware was crazy when he plugged that phone into that little dock and was Yeah, speechless. Yeah David wanted to share a ways trick he uses in Columbus, Ohio Says I've determined that since Google now knows my home to work route It has essentially established the best three routes for my commute So every morning I check Google cards if my route shows normal traffic I'll bring up Google to see which of the three routes is in fact normal if I bring up the Google now card and Google shows Medium or heavy I then know that all three routes are backed up Which triggers me to use ways as it seems to have a much better ability to handle outside of the box traffic patterns And he was he was saying that in Columbus ways can has failed him a few times I wrote him back and I pointed out that in San Francisco ways would fail me every once in a while too It had to do with how much traffic and how many people are using it in Los Angeles There's always so much traffic and so many people are using ways that it always works the best. Yeah I haven't had a lot of great success. I know you swear by it. I have seen it work Once I was in a car when it did work with my friend Pat But every time I tried to do it it goes yeah, take the freeway. Well, I wonder if that's because of your geography Yeah, yeah, what might be which could make sense And then Christian says hey guys a quick note on why Google invested in AMP the accelerated mobile pages it's clear that AMP is a hedge against Apple news and Facebook, but the question is why and Christian says the answer is advertising Apple and Facebook fully intend to monetize Apple news and Facebook instant articles by providing their own Advertising solutions while it's true They technically allow publishers to sell their own ads at least in the case of Apple news Apple is exerting so much control Including not allowing ads from Google's double-click that it's going to be far easier to let Apple sell the ads and split the revenue 7030 combine this dynamic with content blocking on iOS 9 and the growth of content consumption on mobile and Google has no choice But to try to undermine these types of closed Proprietary publishing platforms in other words think of AMP as the new Android It's not so much about Google making money directly as it is about them creating an environment where they can continue to grow rather than being gradually suffocated When I read about amp, I couldn't quite follow How even Google would do the ads did you did you follow that it didn't seem I mean no JavaScript Oh, no, there's there are ad there are advertising modules allowed You just can't do all of the full-on cooking and tracking That you could previously, but yeah, you can still in there. There is some tracking There's some limited tracking and what Google has said is they will build in More of those kind of avenues as they go, but they want to build them slowly and carefully so that they don't weigh down the page load Yeah, and they're not banning JavaScript. They're just restricting it Yeah, they said it has to be inside of an iFrame. That's part of a separate little thing or something I don't know. I mean basically they're saying you you're gonna have to do ads the way you did in 2000 when Tom ran tech TV dot com, which that's how we did all of our ads So splatting all over the screen the web 2.0 came along and is great, right? You can do all kinds of great things with web 2.0 with with a jacks and then all of the technologies that have developed since then That's and that's awesome But what they also allow is abuse of page load times and that I think that's what google's trying to say is If you don't want to take advantage of all of these wonderful technologies that we've developed over the past 15 years And you just want faster page loading. This is the formula for doing it and you can still sell advertising through there Whole thing makes me sad What makes you sad faster page loading No, that the fact that we're having to go through this I mean when we come out the other side when this stuff gets in place, it'll be it'll be well done, but it's just I don't know ad blockers make me sad not using ad blockers make me sad or No, I used to love wired. I loved wired, but I read on my ipad can't go to wired anymore I used to love wired. It was one of my favorite places. Can't can't do it. It's unusable I see what you mean. You would just want the war to be over. Yeah, just everybody playing nice Yeah, they will eventually fun again Well This was fun. Thank you for being on the show Definitely fun. I always have a good time here. I like it. Go check out allison's shows at pod feet dot com That's pod fe et dot com and follow on twitter twitter dot com slash pod feet Yeah, you should definitely do that. I'm having a lot of a lot of fun I've been spending the last week doing doing math on these cell phone plans has kept me occupied I've been reading terms and conditions to try to figure out what they all mean to try to simplify it So, uh, I should have that ready soon Excellent, uh, so keep keep an eye out on that. 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Oh, yeah, there's that thing showbot.tv Facebook emoticon Uber keys lifted That's pretty good Plays in voodoo got it I wish mccally kelkin could come in there because now I will always think of that when I see the Facebook emoticon Oh this Yeah, which emoji means like The thumb obviously Reactions to reactions is actually perfectly descriptive of the show itself Jenny, which one you like I like the one with the I don't know face Facebook emoticon That one I just think that that face should be the title Will that work That's gonna screw up overcast That's my guess Since me sneezing in the vicinity of my encoder seems to screw up overcast these days I see I think you guys were unnecessarily harsh on these things I'm super excited to have that because Facebook is basically the only way I communicate with humans anymore. That's not this show And I would absolutely love to have a wider range of emotions without having to carefully craft a comment For every single thing because sometimes a comment isn't appropriate It's Yeah, I just kind of leaped past that I kind of assumed that in the discussion But it would have been good to make that point because my I went past that I was like, okay It's great to have the emotions. Are these the right ones and how's it gonna? How's it gonna work? How's it gonna affect how we talk to each other now? But we're talking about a company that has only given us a thumbs up for X number of years more than a decade now And I'm very excited that they have caught up to All the ranges in the middle and that cannot be overstated And the way that it's going to affect the dynamic cannot be overstated You know it reminds me of jenny when when my kids were little my friend diane And I used to get into arguments about when we throw a party for one of the kids What we would have like what drinks do you have my answer was water? Because if you make it if you make a coke well, I I need to have diet coke You make a coke you got to have oh, I now you got to have seven up because you can't have a caffeine But we have lemonade. What about ginger ale? No, you're getting water But facebook has these amazing Deals with artists right that artists come into design art at the facebook headquarters So they have they have like an endless possibility to launch into stickerville in a really classy way that also actually helps actual Artists So i'm going with beat masters headline. That should be exciting. What sorry i'm going with beat masters headline Facebook's emotional facebook's emotional status. It's complicated It's good to be king But either all of that said jenny are these the right ones and and they're they're excellently well research starts Yeah, and that's and that's why they're testing them right to find out Yeah, but if you had to guess is there one that you wish was in there is there one that you don't like That's what i'm curious about No, i looked at those pretty carefully and they seem to Express Like i would have settled for just i feel empathy for you and that's sort of what that um Like that shock one is and that's that's all i want is like i want just a wider way to silently add my voice to Hey, did your car radio get stolen? That sucks without having to take the time to write Hey, did your car radio get stolen that sucks? So see if you hear here's where here's where it gets interesting though That shock one to me is one i would rarely ever use that doesn't signal empathy to me at all that signals some kind of Possibly misinterpreted reaction. It could be wow. It could be i'm offended by you Yeah, i immediately thought so what you're saying is because of the subjectivity of the receipt of emotion From person to person that these are going to cause a huge stink fit on facebook No, i'm not going that far i'm just saying i you know i wonder I i wonder if they still i wonder how much fine-tuning they're going to need Or if these are the ones and i and i still do think it's risky to put any kind of negative emotion out there Because people will start to use it Jenny the three of us just had a completely different reaction to one thing But the way you described that i would have never thought to put the the macaulay colkin face on I would have done the sad face On your on radio got stolen. We're still worse Then that's the interpretive dance of emotional like People know me people who are my friends on facebook know me and so they add in that face plus my general personality That they know me i mean facebook is the last place that i have left to connect with people At scale who know me and so i love the idea that i can just put a thing and they can interpret in their mind The jenny josephson of christmas past how she would react to that and that's helpful to me Wait so when you say open to interpret it or like interpret so You want people to know how you genuinely feel or do you want people to kind of No, i want a fast way to say oh bummer without having to write. Oh bummer right. I have to really do this I just Sure image macros and everything I want stickers no that's harder though No, i am facebook said like people shouldn't have to go through a lot of work to express Their support for someone and like doesn't always work There are differences sometimes you're sometimes you're the leader of the pack on a facebook comment page and sometimes you're just the pack And if you're just the pack you might just want to add numerical support to how that person is feeling Without getting into it because maybe you're not in the closest friend circle, right? Maybe you're you're an outer ring But you want you want to be stood up and counted in the empathy parade as opposed to If you're really someone's super close friend you might do something on facebook, but you're probably gonna call So i guess it's something to like help you communicate better with the call I know so it's this thing where you take your smartphone that gives you data And you actually there's a function on it that allows you to press in numbers and then talk To a real human. Well, I don't want to do that Okay, so that's what the stickers are for. Okay. Okay, I get it now. Yeah I think jenny that it The assumptions that you're making about how people know you will then react to you that that starts to do great Over time after we start to not know each other at all that we only know each other through that Does that make sense as as the as we get these small and small worlds where No, that's why I hard drop people from facebook if they misinterpret me Then we've reached the point where we're probably no longer friends and it's bam you're off There should be an emoji to let them know they're hard dropped not just dropped Yeah I don't know. I think I think I think there's a danger that if you had too many though Yeah There's a there's a definite creep. Roger. Do you think this is the right amount? I don't know says tom continuing to ask the same question over and over to everyone I I I've often said if if it if it if you really have to think about what you're going to use to To express. I don't know it might be too many. I think it should be down to like three Just why you only give them water You know what I would give them water and then I would lay out a bunch of instant But like didn't work like didn't work because I got my car stereo still in you don't want to say Oh, I like but you still want you want that quick way To express like a pat on the back right instead of having to say pat on the back or oh sorry Yeah, I think jenny's definitely right that there is There is a there is a niche to be served there Where writing like oh man is no worse or better than a little sadness emoji, right? I think I think I think writing in something Is something like that case would actually mean more No It doesn't yes Like if I write colon parentheses, that means more than an emoji that with a Like if you rose like odd dude talk, you know that I heard about you know that sucks like well You just added more words than I was talking about well you said oh man Oh man means more than a sad face Well, that's what I'm saying. I don't think I don't I don't really think that there's a you're trying to condense all these emotions into simple easy selectable like Faces, and I don't think necessarily that is Or the the ideal way to go about it. Well, look, I'm not going to claim to understand your human emotions I think there is a proper slot That is appropriately occupied between like And oh man, yeah that that the emojis And you know what the final barrier there or the final option there is actually Facebook messenger for people that use it Because if you put that like there or if you put a comment there and then you feel like you haven't done enough But you don't want to invade someone's life with a with a presumptory phone call You can actually just write them on Facebook messenger and say look I I and write a longer paragraph, but it's private and it's not Adding in all the other eyes and and whatever I think like how many people really go I mean do you get do you get do you get a post where you get like 50 plus? You know yeah, that's on it because I I I generally don't I get like maybe max out at 20 Right, but you don't have any friends, but what I'm what I'm saying is that I mean like me Well, you don't even use Facebook and if you do it's barely like a token So steve had an interesting question He said you know a lot of times you look back and you say hey I know that was a good post because I got 40 likes on it Are you now going to think yeah, you know I got I got 12 likes, but three angries two macaulay caulkins and a sad face Gives you more data Yeah, I like the more data part. Yeah. Yeah, but it'll be interesting. What what will it tell you? You know you usually get a little thing telling you have 40 likes dangerous thing I'm telling you right now. It's a dangerous thing. It will tear society apart. You'll see it on TMZ in two years Oh look blah blah blah chris brown He got a bunch of sad face The holy cuckoo after he tweeted about his stolen suv or something. I don't know. It's gonna it's it's gonna tear society apart I'm telling you first the prediction show when you need it I guarantee you this this would be the worst thing since You know instant messaging. I'm on team roger today No, I honestly think there's going to be a lot of misinterpreting I don't know if all things seems like it's right for misinterpretation But and that and that is why I think it was really smart for them to do limited tests like this to limit the amount of misinterpretation In Ireland in spain. Yeah, two countries not known for emotional. I know like why Boots wings due to you know chemical influence. Yeah, hold on. Hold on You don't get to say that chang I Want to see them do it in Italy where everybody's always yelling at each other and stuff Ireland and spain are not sedate people Um, I didn't say they were Uh, I think that I wish that they were testing it in small randomized pockets in lots of countries That's Ireland And did they include norther Ireland was it just the Republic of Ireland did they That's a good question. I I got this since it was just the Republic of Ireland I'm wondering if there's going to be a sort of uh, a level of uh, cultural bias Since it's being tested into no, well, they that they that's what they want They want the cultural bias to be limited, right instead of testing it across Regions, they're like we want to test it in one country where we can we we can control the cultural bias And and see how it goes. You know what I mean rather than being like well It could be cultural bias, but we have seven different cultures participating. So we're not sure how that really works So All right, jenny. I want you in which emoticon would you pick to describe this your reaction to this conversation? um Still I want this one I know That was the guy with the face in the hands like, I don't know The ambivalent the ambivalent the one that I want to wear on like a little etsy made necklace That's what I want. I want the emoticon shrug guy on a necklace so I could just point to it and be like Yeah, this is me all the time what they need to do I don't know. I was thinking a good marketing opportunity It's like if you were launching a new movie you could have You could have like star base or like whatever Stars are in the movie He really has that the what Let's see if etsy has shrug emoticon Is that something you would get off etsy? Yeah, they have it embroidered They have it on a knot into giving a shush One but they don't have a necklace. I think that's a lost opportunity I just thought of some aren't there emoticons anyway that like on your keyboard you could be typing that You mean turning our written language into a pictogram language. Yeah Back to the clay tablets and chisel for you All right, let's see if amazon has on handmade has it But you're right. I can't serve chicago says for once a picture is not worth a thousand words We wasted more than a thousand here Oh animated emoji, that's what we need so gif You know what the you know what's gonna happen is people gonna record things and just post it And it'll just be my face saying i'm sorry here about your stolen car Good luck next time It'll be apple's live photos Jenny going Yeah, that would be fun actually By the way, I screwed up the publishing So if you accidentally get yesterday's show listed as today's show, that's why Oh It was up for 20 seconds Mirror seconds But that's enough apparently for some people to for it to hit some rss readers So how did you not see a non-girl scout safe word when that happens? That's my process Wait a minute. I hate cookies Is that a that's not girl scout safe. Oh, you're so bad Thinness suck You're stopping making sense altogether I refuse to sell tag alongs I used to love girl scout cookies You don't anymore I don't know what it is every time I eat a box Really, huh, that's weird. That's really odd I'll never forget selling girl scout cookies once when this woman comes up and she says I need two boxes of thin mints One to eat standing here and one to eat in the car on the way home. Wow That's honesty. I like that lady. Yeah, this should just make a fin mint. That's like like a big fin mint And they just pack like three to a box You just nibble on the whole disc on the way home and you can say you only eat one Yeah No, because then then yeah, see that's the thing you want the psychological feeling of like oh just one more They're small And then you're back at the corner Given your given your uh Brown uniform wearing pusher more money for another box. I need another box You're cut off chain I'm amazed that hasn't made some sort of like Uh, like girl scout cookie uh food truck just rolls around Oh That did america what that's a brilliant idea The best idea ever they can't drive well they have The mothers drive them there any to the quarter anyway Mothers are gonna have to get class c licenses though. That's a hell of an idea I know just just put your kid on task rabbit Does girl scout do the girl scouts have a competing organization Is there anybody like boy scouts? Um, no, they don't meet at the end of the year to see who raised how much like is there another rainbow girls or one of those Yeah, right. I don't know of but I that's what they should do is they should disrupt the marketplace Uh, wait, so girl scouts sell you prepackage dry cookies our scout organization sells you fresh baked chocolate chip cookies from a truck Hot from a truck hot fresh chocolate chip cookies made by real by real scouts Made from real scouts Yo You Can no longer be friends with dark redeemer What you know what oh what would they do? Okay experiments I don't I don't that's not my favorite. Does it make those actually I don't know what it is some about the okay some sort of product Fat or cholesterol tag alongs are my favorite What are the is it the samoas the coconut ones? Samoas. I always like the first one and then I don't want to eat anymore Like you're just done. It's like I sold them in one packs. I just get one samoa. I probably buy it This one's with coconut Yeah, yeah, I'm not a coconut fan Those are actually one of the few coconut things the boys and girls club ken from chicago says the boys and girls club That's absolutely true. There you go. They should start They'll they'll have to call it club bg or something And then they'll hand out like uh after your like 10th order you get a free patch That you can sew on your bag or something Could get confused with team gb though and you might have the olympics suing you Could you combine girl scouts with an existing food truck? You know, you get you like Korean tacos or something Korean tacos with the cookie shoved in it right Korean dessert tacos or medical marijuana delivery and cookies chocolate. Yeah, girl scout cookies. That's a very la san francisco idea What's the uh, what's the ice cream one choco talk choco tacos choco tacos. Yeah What? You don't know choco tacos. No They're like an ice cream novelty. It's like a Like a waffle cone shaped like a taco and then they cover the whole thing in chocolate. Oh my god Can you like buy them in the store right now? Look at that. I used to buy them in the store. Steve we need those Um The only good thing is that my friends don't do crack because whenever somebody says like a food or an alcohol I have to have it immediately I walked past a woman talking about pf. Chang's two days ago and I can't stop thinking about pf Chang's now Oh, and it's not even that great Tom remembers my response And we made roger go to pf Chang's with us once in oakland I felt so ashamed We thought we'd get a discount because he's named chang Oh my god Didn't we try to tell him it was somebody's birthday or something? I can't remember I think it was someone at some other table's birthday. Oh, maybe that's it I mean like the decor was nice I just thought the food was and this is my complaint and tom knows very well that My primary complaint about restaurant food is it's too salty Yeah Yeah Like Like I guess seasoning is just a giant box of salt next to the pot Oh Klondike makes the chaco taco What would you do for a clot chaco taco roger? I would go down to the store and pay a buck I would not pay more than a buck because at that point I would just get a drumstick That would go down to the store and pay between 100 and 200 american cents. Wait a minute. Do they sell its its down there? What's that? No, they don't Yeah It's uh, it's an ice cream sandwich That's made up of two oatmeal cookies and then you have like vanilla or chocolate or strawberry And then on the whole thing is covered with Yeah, I've seen them down here, but it's a very like oh look at we imported it sits from northern california Okay, they don't have my rouse, but they have them at albertson's what chaco tacos. Yeah But you could actually go get one Uh-oh no the address is in florida That seems far allison. I don't know if I'd go all the way there just for chocolate You know it's chased on an ice cream truck Do they sell them on the ice cream trucks? They sell something like it. They have like their their own brand They used to have like they used to be like very specific branded ice cream as you could sell from an ice cream truck And then they just started stocking up everything else that you'd get in the supermarket Marked not for resale. Yeah Not for resale in an individual packing and they sell it as an individual I've almost fixed The audio apologies for the delay Hey dorthy's buying a new tool ID 3 editor for 15 bucks is uh got a scriptable Interface at the command line for adding ID 3 tags. Oh nice So she's gonna buy it and write us some stuff Uh, that wouldn't have saved my ass today though. This was purely pepcac Forgot to drag the uh old audio out of audacity Looks like that's done Did you see the fix for a level later in a capitan Is it it doesn't work, but there's a there's a library file missing that uh Probably because of sandboxing or something that you've got to move from inside level. Okay, so you can make it work I never upgrade my production machines except for security patches I I did it I upgraded yesterday Me too Because nothing was working anyway I had a mysterious Issue where my computer like I was on a wet I was just like Web surfing on a new site and then everything locked up and I couldn't do anything and then I just bounced it back to the login screen What and I ran a full scan on my machine before I did And I want to get an ssd for my mac book Oh do it do it do it do it do it today happy happy joy joy Well with uh, i'll capitan is like the first one that supports non non-apple Approved ssds for trim. Yes, it's still installing but you couldn't do trim or well despite what like mac or owc might say you actually do want trim enable because it makes it Because the drive won't be as efficient in doing garbage collection Right, but you've got a cell it I still would have done it to go from a Spending hard drive to a solid state drive with or without it Well, it's also because of the I had one before and it crapped out on me um figures because the sand force controller, but uh It was just too small and so I opted for a c gate momentous that had like the eight gigs worth of uh As a nann cache on it It's fast when it boots So where did you find the levelator? Fix if you just search for it. Is it easy to find it on a on a forum originally, but I think tidbits posted it to Uh and Soundflower do you sound flower for anything? Some not much I mean I use audio hijack which actually takes advantage of sound flower. Right right so in uh So cycling 74 created sound flower Then they wanted to get out of that business So I they gave it to audio to roga meba roga meba's got a download page, but it's version 1.6 Which does not work under? El Capitan, but it's it's open source So somebody else has it up on github github as a sign developer and its version like 2.0.2 And that one you will need for it to work I can send you the link to that I found that out yesterday because I flipped the switch and wasn't going to be able to talk to you nicely today Um male oh, I'll turn it up. That's where I put it Here's the copy In the we've got a chat somewhere right with the check bill Oh, no, I lost it. There it is Chat you have to move a library file. That's all that's easy. Yeah, did you find it? Yeah, actually, uh the first search result was tidbits and the second search result is your twitter post so Oh, there you go. Good. Um Come on Okay, we're all good. Okay. I'll email you the the github thing Or sound flower Oh, yeah, I if audio hijack still works though, right? No, but it won't hijack your audio if your sound flower is not working So wait audio hijack doesn't work in el capitan audio hijack works fine But if you're using audio hijack to try to route to sound flower sound flower just doesn't run Oh, okay All right, but send me the github thing anyway just in case All right. Thanks everybody Goodbye