 What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Fanduul NBA Draft Lottery. Watch along here, obviously on Fanduul, YouTube, Twitch, wherever you can find us right now. I'm Brian Fonseca, NYNY is in New York. Your host today joining me is first our college NBA draft guru at Fanduul Ryan Hammer at Ryan Hammer 09, as you see there, this Twitter handle. Ryan, how are you doing, sir? I'm good. I'm happy to be here. I guess I'll take that. That intro is decent. I mean, if you follow Ryan, you know that he's all over this stuff. He's absolutely all over the stuff for the draft. And here at the bottom of the screen, we have a special guest with us. And you see his Twitter handle there at Bansky. His name is Eddie Gonzalez. He co-hosts the Exeterers with Kevin Durant on the boardroom and does other work at the boardroom. Eddie, how are you? I'm good. I like the accent on the last name. I'm Puerto Rican, bro. You know what I'm saying? I'm good, man. I'm happy to see the ping-pong balls do whatever it is they do in the back that they never show us. The frozen envelopes. The frozen envelopes. Isn't it like some crazy calculation? It's like nine for each one or something. It's multiple variations. It's not just 27 or whatever they like that. They should show us, but they want to cheat. So it's fine. Yeah. So thank you to everybody watching. We're going to take you up until about tip off to Heat Celtics. Obviously, you know, we're not going to, we're not going to try to intrude on that game because that's what everybody's been watching at the end of the day. Anyway, after this, but first we have the draft lottery and a lot of teams in the mix here, guys, up and chat, bring comments, questions. We'll get to them throughout the course of the show. We'll try to get some of them in here. And remember, we also have a giveaway. We are giving away something as part of the stream, a sign Sadiq Bay Jersey. And we're going to tell you how to enter that very shortly. You also get 100 DFS credits on FanDuel. So sign Sadiq Bay Jersey. So we're expecting a lot of Pistons fans if we want to get some love. So yeah, I mean, guys, let's start this off because draft lottery has started. This is our watch along. And the Pistons are one of the teams with great odds at the number one overall pick. They have a 14% chance the Orlando Magic and Houston Rockets are also tied there. But there's a lot of teams like they're trying to turn around, turn it around, turn around their franchise. Ryan, Eddie, either of you could jump in here, but just like, what do you sort of expect from the night? And just in terms of like, you know, the teams that probably most need to win this or most need to get a high traffic to really turn things around. Eddie, let's start with you. For me, I think the Pistons, because they feel like the closest to an actual competing team. The Thunder aren't trying to play NBA basketball for years to come. The Rockets are still sorting out what they're doing. And then the Magic, I mean, the Magic are kind of in the same place as the Thunder, but the Pistons actually have some stuff going. They seem like a competitive team. Kay, it's like, it looks like he's ready to carry and they got a bunch of nice pieces out there. So yeah, if you're there, you want that number one spot and you want to add another two, so you can try to compete in the East this year. Ryan, who do you think sticking with the Pistons? Who do you think is, because we're talking about this before we got started, the best fit next to Kate Cunningham, regardless of where the Pistons would draft, whether they get the first pick, second, third, they just got the first pick with Kate Cunningham. So when the lottery back to back would be sweet, but like, you know, next to Kate Cunningham, next to Dick Bay, Jeremy Granth, if he's still there, like, who do you think best suits that? It's like, if they get number one, they're not going to go Ivy. Ivy is what why I think is the best fit. They need another guard and need another offensive guard to play off of Kate. They both have one and two guard potential and like upsides. I think they balance each other out really, really well. What Kate doesn't do well with explosive this athleticism, which is not terrible at, but that's what Ivy thrives on, I think. So I think that'd be the best fit. But like you said, like, if they get number one pick, like they're not going to take Ivy there because there is still a level of best player available. They can't just take best fit when you're a team that was not even close to making the playoffs, even though next year they could be with the right person. But like you said, with Jeremy Granth, who knows what their plans are with that? They want to add Chet, Jabari, Paolo, like it wouldn't surprise me, but if they get a top two or three, I expect them to take one of the forwards. But if they're at maybe three, probably four, then Ivy is definitely their guy. So you'd like to know the guard as the fit, not one of the wings, not one of the big guys, as like a ball handling thing or? Oh, a little bit of both. Like you see, like a lot of teams that like, take the Mavs, for example, they're going far. They traded for Dinwiddie. They have Brunson having like secondary tertiary ball handlers. The Hawks need that with Trey Young. If they want to be good, he got absolutely dismantled because he was the only guy handling the ball versus the heat. I'm a Hawks. I'm allowed to say that. So it's okay. But they like, I think it balances out very, very well. And they do have good size. Like Siddiq Bay, he's a solid shooter. He plays at three. Isaiah Stewart's smaller. I think he's like six, nine at the center, but he plays strong. He had, he average like eight or nine boards a game this year. Like he plays physical enough to play against seven footers. So I think a two guard is what they need or a guard is what they need. Like Kylian Hayes is not going to be their guy long term. He can play like a marker, smart type role, but we'll see. I like it. I see the vision. I get what you're going for. Yeah. And but they'll probably end up getting like picked sevens and we'll never know. Mathering. That's true. That's a good point. Yeah. I mean, it's funny because Benedict Mathering is somebody that like, during the NCAA tournament before Arizona ended up losing, he was somebody that I thought could creep into that top five. And he's still might. He still has time, I suppose, but like now I'm seeing him mock late teens. I mean, not late teens, early teens or top 10, late top 10, something along those lines. I mean, he's somebody who intrigues me. I feel like he needs to get to the right spot and they could really hone in on his talent. Actually like his defensive upside. I don't know. Some people are down on him in that regard. I saw a couple comparisons to Karis Leverts which I really like Karis Leverts. I didn't quite see that in his game. And Karis is smooth. Karis is super smooth. Right. Like that. That was something that confused me a little bit as somebody who like covered the nets from 16 to 19. I saw a lot of Karis Leverts. I was like, all right, I don't, I don't typically, I don't really see that. But I think Benedict would be very nice on a bunch of these different teams, especially if he goes to the right spot in terms of development though. And that's the thing. We see a lot of the same teams in lottery all day because they sort of struggle at development. So I'm hoping that that's not the case. Like maybe, you know, the Spurs are a team that I think have an interesting lottery situation here because they have multiple first round picks. I think they're going to have three in total because they're going to have one here in the lottery that we're going to see where that goes. And then they also have 20 and 25, 20 from Toronto and 25 from Boston. So the Spurs are a team that I think can maybe turn things around fairly quickly. What do you think I'm asking, right? Because to me, the Karis comparison is kind of all, I see them as definitely more athletic. And I'm with you, Brian, like, I think with the right toodalids, I guess he could definitely be a force defensively. You kind of seeing that in the playoffs, these rangy, long athletic guards, like, yo, we just need you to chase guys off the line and run around as much as you can. And you could see him doing that. I know college, you never quite know what defense in college unless it's like a Matisse Thaibu, who even him, he played in his own in college. So it was like, you had to see the instincts and athleticism. But he looks like somebody to me that is a modern player, if that makes sense. And so he kind of does the things necessary of a guard in the modern game. What do you think, Brian? I think he's got like you said, like he does things like a guard. I think he was able to do that Arizona but he's got the physicality of a wing like a true Ford. I compare a lot to like Terence Ross, Andrew Wiggins, a little more like he has a smooth game when he needs to smooth scoring game. He could play the two or the three, but he is a freak athlete. Like we saw like the dunk in the TCU game was absolutely outrageous. Like I still can't get my mind off that. But he like, I think it's a weird though, because like he's in the mix where he is. I have him in top 10 still on my board, but next to guys like AJ Griffin, who's not explosive athlete, Shaden Sharp, who's kind of a little more of a question, but he's also a good athlete, but he's more of a natural two guard than the three. And I think his athleticism Benedict kind of like gives him that edge against those guys where if a team like the Piston says, we want Cade to be the smooth guy, the pure score, kind of like Luca is and not not play above the rim. Cause he's not the type of guy that he is normally. We want to pair him with the guy who does that like matter and could be the guy if like Ivy's gone or something like that. So I feel like him being tired and kind of just playing out in the, in the tournament and the way he did left like a foul taste on people's mouths, but he had a better season than the way he went out in the tournament. Yeah. He's, I have no doubts in him. I think Brian mentioned about the defensive upside too, like as an athlete and like Eddie mentioned also like the Raptors are an example of Gary Trent, like what they've done with him. Also like they just put freaking out like this, but athletes, adversarial athletic wings on their team and they just figure it out. And like Matherin could be one of those smaller type of guys cause you can't have everybody be six, 10 on the team. So eight, like you gotta have a couple guards, I guess to balance it out. Matherin could definitely be one of those guys cause like athletically he can defend strictly based off that and you can teach him to work on mechanics and like understanding an IQ. Yeah. For me, when I look at the draft and usually when I watch college or, you know, even the other ways of guys are making silly. I'm looking at these guys like, okay, how do they play in the NBA? And what is the NBA looking like in a couple of years too as it continues to transform year by year? And I'm watching the Celtics and that feels like the prototype to me. Like we just have all these tall guys, some of them can shoot, but they're big, they're strong and they're athletic. And so we're just going to guard everybody. And yeah, that's where somebody like Matherin like, yo, we get them in the right team. We get them on Toronto and we teach them how to play within our scheme. Like, yeah, he could be a defensive force because he is that athletic and that's what you're looking for. Even guys like Herb Jones also, like you said before, like those guys, he got picked like 35 last year. Like teams are going to take them earlier in the 20s and the 10s that they had, Scotty Barnes, like it wasn't supposed to go for last year, but he went for it for a pretty good reason. So we got, we got a comment, not to cut you off, but we got a comment here. I want to see Eddie, what do you think of this? Because we're talking about player comms for Benedict Matherin and Pistons talk here says, reminds him of Quinn Richardson. Q-Risk had a rifle, so he had this. Yeah. Because he's going to have to shoot a little bit better for that one. But young Q-Risk, man, he can really get up there, he can run the court and he can really jump. So I say a little bit, but he was quite the shooter at his time, man. And underrated rebounder for a wing player also, like to really pull him down at his peak. Quinn Richardson is an interesting, like I do appreciate the comparison because I appreciate like comparisons that are like to players from a couple of generations prior, not just ones that are currently still playing now. Like I saw the carousel when I've seen Jaden Ivy being linked to Donovan Mitchell, and of course, John Morant, those are very popular comparisons for him. Chet Holmgren's had, I mean, he's had a wide range of different comparisons. I've seen a lot of Chris Ash Porzingas. I think people are just going like, oh, he's big, he's white, he's tall, the frame, et cetera, et cetera. And I'm like, he's not quite the same, but I understand it. But like, I appreciate that. Like Jabari Smith was one for me where I sort of said this, and Ryan, I'm going to toss it to you here because I want to see what y'all think of this. Yeah. Very early on, he reminded me of Rashard Lewis, and then I started seeing a lot of Rashard Lewis comparisons, though I think he's going to be better defensively. Like maybe it's a cross between like Rashard Lewis and Jared Jackson Jr., or something along those lines, I don't know. But as somebody who really liked Rashard Lewis when he played, I saw some of that, and I think he could be a better, a better version of that. Yeah. That's, that's fair. And the defensive party mentioned like he similar to Mather and like he is an athletic defender. He's not necessarily, I don't call him a good defender. I think he has a lot of like mental drops in that. But yeah, he played next to Walker Kessler, who was literally the best defensive player in college basketball last year. So like it let him do that. It let him be the X factor defender and have a chase down block. And that's all you remember him about defensively the whole year. But I think, so I think he has potential to be like that. And Jared Jackson makes sense like is Jabari going to be a deep boy? Probably not. But he has, he's 6'10", like Jaren. He could shoot like Jaren. He has a funky shot like Jaren, but he shot like 42% from 3. And having those two like different upsides is pretty, pretty spot on that. That's exactly my compass, Jaren. So I like Jaren like a little more athletic, Jaren. And Jaren is I think more athletic than what he shows to like just the game he plays. But the way we see him run the floor, you know, he can do the blow by off the pump and go. There's a little bit more to him than that. He just isn't going to be the defender that Jackson is at the moment. But like you said, with his athleticism, he could catch up. He could be effective on that end or at least disruptive. Like he might, he's going to have some lapses. He's going to give up some dunks, but he's also going to run guys off the rim, which is going to be helpful. But I love his game. I mean, that was one of the guys I watched during the year that like immediately jumped out like, man, this, you can see him, you can see his program already and he's going to only get better. Can we actually get to chat home Grimm? Because we did mention him, but like he's somebody who, I mean, I feel like he's very polarizing just as a draft prospect. And this draft is pretty unique because like, I feel like in the last few years around this time, or maybe a little bit after even, we kind of felt like we knew who was going number one more or less. It's been a little bit debatable, at least in this draft, because there's Paolo Boncarola. I don't necessarily think he's going number one, but it's possible. I guess it depends who wins lottery, right? Jada and Ivy is somebody who is not really seen as a number one pick, but I think there's a world where he may become the best player in the draft. So, I mean, Ryan, like, what do you see in terms of, you know, who can go number one and also just, you know, really become maybe the best player in the draft because I feel like those are two different things, kind of like what we've seen in previous drafts. Well, I'll start with Che. I feel like he's so overhated and maybe it's just me seeing people say that, but I don't know. I get why people don't like him. Like, his frame is unique, at the least. And like, people say bull bull, which is the laziest thing in the world. He is nothing like bull bull. He is going to be 10 times better on day one. And that's no not, it's not really, I'm trying to knock bull bull, but it's a praise to Che because he's going to be good. And he has the highest upside of the class, like 100%. Highest upside. You do the right things with him developing the right way on the right system. He will be the best player. But like you said, like, we have the top three guys. Ivy's not far behind. It's about fit. I think between those top three guys, Paolo, Chet and Jabari, the biggest difference for me is the on ball role they command and they can command. We're like, Chet has the least on ball roll. He'll command on day one. Jabari somewhere in the middle and Paolo is the highest. Like he commands a lot. He likes the ball in his hands. He's patient with the ball, which is good, but only teams like maybe the Rockets to have that role to offer him make a lot of sense. We're like, Chet and definitely Jabari, you can fit into any team no matter what system is. So I think for me, we have similar sentiments in that like, I think Paolo is immediately like pro ready. He'll be effective probably day one quicker than the other two. Jabari, you'll have to develop a little bit. You'll have to work with him. You'll have to find the correct situation. And then Chet is that wild card in the sense that we didn't get to see his full arsenal in Gonzaga with the offense. He had to run with the players. He had to be next to in the players. He had to kind of coalesce with and so yeah, he has to deal with that and we get to see a little more of him off the dribble. We get to see a little more of him showcase if he's on a team like the Rockets or the magic for sure, right? But what always stands out to me, I think it's kind of like the trendy take two is his instincts on defense and his hands on defense. He's blocking guys. Yes, he's gigantic and has a ridiculous wingspan, but he's blocking guys because he's timing their jumps and he's he's meeting them at the rim and and it's not just standing there like this like taco for and so like that to me is what stands out and gives him the most upside going forward. But yeah, I think we'll see, you know, we're going to see a lot from Paulo immediately and Chet may take some time. He is crazy slight like yeah, you know, and you cannot look past that he's even slimmer than Kevin was. He's slimmer than bi was and it's like almost the point where Ingram has added some weight Kevin did eventually through time and it's like how much weight is this guy going to add because he is tiny. I was saying earlier before we got going when he gets on the scale that's going to it's going to be it's going to matter for a lot of teams like that we don't need to see him bench. We don't need to bench press but like let's see where he's at now and then he's going to add muscle. He's going to add weight. He's so young, but man, he is slight. That was a concern for Moby last year also like could argue was rookie the year one or two whatever and like they I don't think they're that far off our weight and even size like chest arms are a little longer and their styles aren't that that different either like maybe check and be a little more wondrous with the ball and stuff like that but defensive unsighted like instinct when we saw a chat versus Jalen Dern in the second round of the tournament people were going after check because like a couple of times you got dunked on once and but he was so he was super gritty against Dern who is super strong plays like Dwight Howard like bam kind of strength like he plays really strong and Chet held his own and was like super tough and like it's hard to judge that in prospects but like he does have that trait like to help him defensively I love the Moby comp too because it's it's a lot of the same instincts you saw a Moby have at USC and then you've seen him have his rookie here in Cleveland to go okay like he gets defense and he's just as agile he's obviously he's probably a little more small slim yeah but it's still the same concern you had the same concern Moby like man how's he gonna bump against these guys and I watch I watch him in person twice in a week and I'm like yo that dude he's just jumped out of the court as the most athletic person in the gym and that's with some spectacular players in that court so yeah I'm with you on Chet like I'm just as high on him it's just about anybody so the lottery just started we have picks now uh and they just showed all the people representing but right now 14 is going to the Cleveland Cavaliers 13 is going to the Charlotte Hornets 12 to the Oklahoma City Thunder so they're not gonna have the top two picks right as we talked about earlier the New York Knicks I'm sorry to my Knicks fan homies uh back in New York here in New York they are staying at 11 the Washington Wizards are at 10 the San Antonio Spurs are at nine and we are up to the New Orleans Pelican tour at eight and they're represented by Swing Cash out of Swing Cash Portland Trailblazer represented by Damien Lillard get the seventh pick and Damien Lillard has a little bit of a smile there that means the Sacramento Kings have jumped to the top four Detroit out of the top four the Pistons yeah Pistons are five like we were talking about before like they're probably going to miss out on Ivy also where Shaden Sharp saw kind of before that's going to be a consideration that they're they're going to have a tricky one because that's going to be that's going to be tough the Kings is an interesting one because they've been in they've been trying to be in win now mode for a long time and they've needed that guy to go to go to push them a little over I love De'Aaron Fox I love baby bonus as well but they definitely need some athleticism they need somebody to play defense they don't need to guard they do not don't need to guard that's the problem they got had to get rid of Halbert because of that so like I said this yesterday to someone that if they get four they are going to be screwed again because they're going to be like oh my god what do we do do we trade back if the top three forwards go like right away because without the Pistons there to take Ivy like who else is going to take them like the Thunder aren't going to take a guard the magic don't need a guard like it's so it's going to be interesting because you get Palo you're probably not going to want to play him next to Sabonis so okay what do we do there he's not playing center we're probably not ready for him to play the wing like small forward be out there that rangey what do we do so you got to guess they're going to watch it they're going to want Jabari yeah like I said they might get four and just be screwed I hope I get one or two because that'd be tough like to have an outside shooter like Jabari too like that'd be great and god Sabonis is a double double machine but like you said he clogs up a lot in the pain too like we don't we don't need to be doing that so yeah he's gonna put he's gonna play on the elbow and offense and he's gonna be slow in defense and I like I like him a lot but yeah you don't want to put Palo next to him go ahead I'm sorry yeah it makes sense not just want to reiterate for people who may have lost track the top four picks right now Houston Rockets in no particular order because they start to decide the top four but the Houston Rockets Sacramento Kings Oklahoma City Thunder and Orlando magic will be the top four picks the order yet to be determined but those are the locks the big news is that the Detroit Pistons unfortunately moved back to five the Kings jumped up and yeah it's tough but comments questions concerns about everything going on tonight we saw somebody said that the Cavs were robbed one of the shout them out somebody asked about Shay Don Sharp who we might get to momentarily potential top five pick even though he did not play Kentucky last year is entering so some more comments we have here Andrew you could throw any up I don't care we can we'll get to them doesn't matter you could throw up even the one the bot here that keeps leaving Yankee scores and other baseball scores you throw that up if you want for all I care but right now oh my boy Dexter Henry this is actually my podcast co-host the hardstyle podcast I no deserve ain't got nothing to do with it but Sacramento doesn't deserve to move up in lottery we're laughing emojis I mean look as a Sacramento native the Kings do not deserve it Sacramento might deserve it a little bit but the Kings don't deserve none of that there I tweeted yesterday watching uh Luca and Trey go conference finals and back to back seasons is a really good reminder that the Kings are by far the worst organization people talk about that three the Hawks now straight like they forget that like maybe they did both win and the Kings with the only losers out of it there are the only losers even the Suns like we went to the finals you know Deondre Aitton seems to be on the first thing smoking out of town but I'll see yeah I mean they made it to the finals they had a chance he looked great in the playoffs even them they're like yo we missed out but we you know we at least didn't we're not the Kings I saw a lot of Aitton and piston stuff so like if they could you if they want to use five if they want to get eight and something or like in a package deal somehow like I saw the pistons are like even odds to be the next team if he leaves the Suns which like is interesting it makes sense so do we actually think do we actually think any of these teams Eddie I'll throw this to you do you actually think any of these teams should use this first round pick to try to get Deondre Aitton if he's going to be moved from Phoenix I like the pistons idea because again what we mentioned earlier like I feel like they're the closest competing but the Kings are a wild card there too because they probably that is kind of what they need like they like Richard Holmes there but an athletic big who can kind of help change their defense a little bit and be a scoring threat now that's the thing with the bonus you got to keep wondering about the fit the Pacers tried for however many years to figure out okay how do we play a center with him what type of center they shuffle a couple guys in they tried him at center and never quite figured it out my grounds are tough task with that but yeah I could definitely see them coming off that pick and finding something more you know already ready packaged rather than dealing with that but if you get one or two like you got to take one of those two big guys and just roll with it yeah Texas Tough SOB agrees that the pistons need a true big center whether it's Deondre Aitton or somebody else I mean look I don't know if the bonus is gonna feel about going from Miles Turner to Deondre Aitton he's gonna be like damn can't I just like operate like the way I want to here but you know I don't know necessarily what the Kings are looking for but right now Lottery is back so we are about to find out in what order these top four picks will be so there it is to be really good So the Kings got four Sacramento Kings have the first pick Sacramento Kings have the fourth pick The matter is absolutely taking Chet Holmgren there's no one Chet and Suggs they think they started playing together in third grade they played three years of high school together like reunite them reunite they have to do it there's there's no way around it they had to do it the Kings the Kings win they lose at the same time the most Kings thing ever I love it it's perfect Wow so okay so the top four right now we have the Orlando Magic gets the first pick in the draft that is something we're gonna get to that we're gonna get to that in a second because I was wondering like what the hell is Orlando gonna do given their roster right now right oh man and the Oklahoma City Thunder they have the second pick they also have the 12th pick and they also have a lot of other draft picks or the Houston Rockets are at number three and the Sacramento Kings moved up to number four so the Orlando Magic win the lottery they have the first pick in the draft for they've had the first pick in the draft several times I feel like throughout the course of their existence but um look man the read looks like pretty easy I feel like we know it's got to be Chet to Orlando the Thunder and Jabari make too much sense also and then Paula the Rockets they probably were taken at one like I feel like that three makes and then Sacramento the screw but whatever so Chet Holmgren so Chet Holmgren and Wendell Carter would be starting together yeah check in honestly Chet's a four in my opinion he's better at the four he can shoot the ball like a two guard so he like what he can do and you can put him anywhere like you could figure it out you can put him on the calves and he'd be fine I think you figure it out um but because of the shooting outside I think he'd be he'll be fine with that that is and going back to the Celtics thing like we saw that with the calves like you like you just mentioned having two bigs out there isn't like the Devon L that it once was especially one that can shoot like Chet can so it's like yeah let's make it work let's it makes our defense ranger it makes our defense longer and we just make up for the shortcomings but if you have shooters you can run as many big fellas out there as you want make them run around but I'm very interested what you think about the thunder you have Jabari is kind of shoe in there as they continue to build this up from the ground ground ground floor how do you think how do you think that fits for them and what they're trying to do they they have they they took too many guards already but it doesn't matter because they go best player available at this point but like SGA giddy treyman like you can't take too many guards even loot duart like you can only develop so many players even if it is for long-term they need front court players like James Robb Jeremiah Robinson Earl got a lot of PC he's solid but he's a rotational piece and like Jabari is perfect what they need he has size athleticism which they do not have at all they're starting pokushevsky half the games which is the opposite kind of player but Jabari can shoot like that like he's a little bit more of a long-term project like I feel like it's perfect for them and he's going to play off SGA and giddy two natural playmakers like so so well yeah they're going to feed him buckets he's going to have some easy buckets every night couple a lot of time because they don't have a ton of roster talent but they will find him when they need to and feed him a couple dunks and couple open threes here and there so I mean I like it and I and it fits their timeline like they're fine with taking the time to get this right because they're on that timeline whereas uh you know the Rockets you know who knows what their timeline is and what they want to do with their coach and on and on and on but I think Paolo is the perfect fit for them and as they continue to build whatever Jaylin Green is going to turn into I really like Jaylin Green yeah um and they're just adding scoring punch and they're adding athleticism to that team and you know like I said earlier I think Paolo is going to immediately be a force and yeah that they should look better next year than they looked to start this year. Paolo to me definitely makes sense in Houston because I'm not Christian Wood seems like somebody they would move off of this offseason I'm not sure like what's like Kevin Porter Jr I'm not sure if they're going to keep him long term uh they still have Jay Chantate there who I like a lot and obviously Jaylin Green like Paolo Wonkerro I feel like makes a lot of sense there we have about 10-15 minutes left so if you want to enter these contests if you're watching on YouTube the link is pinned there how to do it and on twitch you can comment exclamation point contests with no space exclamation point contests like some people were doing earlier to enter we're going to announce the winner shortly so make sure you get your entries in the prize remember is 100 DFS credits on Fanduil and a Siddique Bay signed Jersey shout out to the Detroit Pistons for that Siddique Bay signed Jersey they have the fifth pick but look Detroit Pistons like you can still get something at number five but oh man the Orlando magic so three times this was put this was posted in the chat by obviously Fanduil um magic has had the number one pick a few different times throughout their existence the last three Dwight Howard in 2004 Chris Webber and Shaq in the early 90s back to back Chris Webber was obviously traded um but they nailed with Dwight Howard and Shaquille on the old picks you know they they you know or they both both guys were able to spearhead teams that went to the NBA finals before they eventually moved on but if if history sort of repeats itself and look Ryan you were talking about the potential of like Chet Holmgren being there if that is in fact a pick and you're playing him next to Wendell Carter I mean you got Jalen Suggs you got Franz Wagner who is somebody who had a really good rookie season like you know maybe maybe you're maybe you're finally you know you're finally getting something down there in Orlando they're like Cole like Cole Suggs I'm even full coming back from injury too I'm one that believes Suggs is their point guard of the future like he had a really inefficient start to the year after his injury he came back he was much better he's a good defender he's a really good playmaker and I think like he reminds me of like a poor man's like D Rose in his prime he plays a similar style like athletic he can like he's not a great shooter or anything but um I think that team is good like you said Cole Fultz Suggs Franz even Jonathan Isaac if he ever plays basketball again that'd be great but like that team is that team is good and they get something for Bamba if they want but there you go Isaac's an interesting point because going back to what we were saying earlier about modern players he's an incredibly moderate wing right now but like you said who knows if he's going to play basketball um the Kings I don't know I don't know what they do there they cannot take Ivy I mean I have to win now right they have to draft to win right now yeah they always feel like they're trying to win now they're trying to get the play and they're trying to be active I don't know what 24 almost and so bonus is like 25 so like can you take an 18 year old that you've never seen before or Ivy who like 19 you have to I they almost might have to consider either trading back or going for like Keegan Murray who like maybe he's not the best player available but he's a wing score he's going to play the three a little bit of the four he's athletic he doesn't like he can play off the guards really well I can shoot well he's efficient like that seems like it makes a lot of sense but like is it too much or reach at four Murray was the prediction on uh on the screen a while ago I I think they have to explore trading that there's going to be people who want we'll want that pick there's a lot of talent in the strap there's a lot of top heavy talent in the strap as well I think Ivy is enticing for everybody you mentioned the job come a comparison earlier and I think there's something to that so yeah you're getting explosive ball handler like that whether you want to call him point guard whether he's going to play next to a point guard whatever it may be but you you you if you can get that and you feel like you're close to contending or you're close to being in the playoffs or wherever your goal is there he just doesn't fit for them that's the problem they they have too many point guards they don't even they don't even know what to do with most of them and then traded the guard who a lot of people felt well it's the better guard last year just to just to unclog the log jam so yeah I think they had to explore getting that out of there and you know maybe eight in this in place here's a question of the teams in the top five and that would be the Orlando Magic first Oklahoma City second Houston Rockets third Sacramento Kings fourth Detroit business fifth of the teams in the top five which team do you think is most likely to actually trade their pick trade out of the top five and potentially get a player like is it the Kings because they already have the iron fox they already have the Montess bonus they may want to operate on the different timeline or is it somebody else like maybe it's Oklahoma City who's like all right we can't we can't keep drafting everybody we have to at some point consolidate some of these picks to get players Eddie what do you think if the thunder were closer I could see them saying hey we'll take two we'll take 12 and we'll take Lou Dohert or whatever it may be and let's go get X available borderline star but they're just not close they're just not even close to close really and they're fine with that their ownership is on board their front office is on board it's like hey we'll maybe win 25 make sure and that's cool or develop our guys I think it has to be the Kings because all things we mentioned and they're just in this perpetual middle the worst place to be in the league they're not bottomed out they're not close to competing so they're just there so I think it has to be them and I think there's gonna be a lot of interest honestly yeah I think like the Kings make too much that the Pistons like I feel like they're more gonna they're gonna wait until draft night or if the Kings like say the Kings trade out and someone else comes in and they're like oh shit like we don't we're not gonna get Ivy anymore or maybe we don't like sharp or we don't like Ivy vice first or whatever it is they might be like a reactive kind of domino effect like we have to trade out and let's go get a player that we can find to fill like a and say example whatever it is to fill in the gap that we have because we didn't get top four and we only like four guys like that a lot of teams are gonna do that where they're like we like six guys and we're at eight we can't make the pick we can't bank on it falling until draft like it's not gonna work so the business to me turns into what do they do with Grant and maybe you feel like you can package that with Grant and get like a star but who is disgruntled enough to want to be out and then want to go to that destination where they're building and they're not you know it's not like they're you're jumping right to a competitor they're not jumping to somebody who's trying to compete um so I don't know the Pistons are interesting but Grant is going to be the first domino for them and it might not ever fall like a lot of people thought it was going to fall and the trade deadline this year and coming up in the last few days it was like yeah we're we're off it we're keeping them and that wasn't always going around and everybody moved on and then we saw James Harding go where he went and and the trades that didn't have happening and the Pistons stood back so I think it starts with Grant but I don't see them trading that they're going to have to find some talent there this is a good question from grand fan here uh Andrew if you see this you could put it on the screen should the bulls trade Levine or Lonzo ball or both to get a top five pick in this draft I mean with if you're so if you're doing that you're keeping DeMar de Rosen so I don't know if you want to necessarily like make that your timeline right if you if you want to have a top five pick next to DeMar de Rosen and it's funny that you mentioned this green because I was just thinking about this and I wanted to talk to you guys what does Portland do at the same time because I want to answer this question but also answer the Portland question because you have seven you have Damian Lillard and I feel like those are both teams where you know you kind of have to win now because of the age of your stars and in the NBA especially now like it's just so wide open like it's just a different time than it was a few years ago where it felt like it was a race between a few different teams Portland like yeah that's a tough one because like I feel like they're in a good spot though at seven because we thought that guy's like mattering that can be great for them explosive this Jalen during they need a center Nurkitsch is one never healthy and two not going to defense and three I think is expiring contracts I'm not mistaken on there so like they're going to need a center also he's younger might be a more of a long-term deal too but like I think they're in a good spot do they trade out of it and try to get someone that's like 25 26 entering their prime whatever that is eight and could be a good fit there but I don't know I feel like they're in a pretty good spot this to to kind of stay where they are yeah for the Bulls I think with Lonzo Ball's knee and the reports coming out about that yeah it's hard to know and it's hard to know that anybody's going to jump on that either Zach it has to turn into a situation where he wants out we don't know if he wants out wants to stay he seemed happy you guys own the issues to deal with you got to be a little concerned about as well the team I'm thinking like we haven't mentioned yet that I think could be a shaker the Jazz and oh yeah if you're a big Donovan Mitchell fan and you got the four pick like hey maybe maybe you go see what's going on or you got the five or whatever pick and if the Jazz are ready to break it down and build it back up and just don't feel like that that group they have there can get it done yeah maybe Rudy get really go bears out there to be had and he's a he could be a game changer for a bunch of teams so maybe that's a team that jumps out and says hey we'd like to get into the draft let's see what happens and they're definitely do something like we know they're splitting up one of them if not both of them just in some capacity they're doing something we mentioned like the Raptors before also I talked with them earlier they have no first round pick I think it's from the rosin trade whatever it is a while back but they the Raptors are at 33 so it's an early second so it might as well be a late it's kind of like a late first if they want to move up into the late lottery for a team that maybe want to live back I don't think it's crazy because if they saw a wing one of those athletic guys they want to add like they can go do that for sure and like that's definitely a team I could see doing that and like Messiah Geary would do something like that for sure like we see whoever it is like if someone starts falling to like Keegan Murray makes a lot of sense we mentioned Mather and these guys are just like athletic wings just to add to the group so yeah I mean you heard OG's name kicked around a little bit at the trade I don't know that they're in a rush to trade him unless it's for something maybe like a top five pick so I could see I could see them getting active as well he's not wanting to stand back and just wait you know they want to be active they want to compete every year and they have a good recipe there what they're doing so if he's that in if he's that interested in an early pig it would be so great to see himself out and go get it one of y'all mentioned the Hornets earlier too like they have 13 and 15 confirmed now if they want we know they need a center like if they're going to trade up for during maybe or like they're not going to trade up for Chet topsy unlikely but they're at a spot where like 13 and 15 honestly is going to be too high to take a guy like Mark Williams I think I'm like maybe 15 is not if they take someone else at 13 but they can easily package those to get into the top 10 maybe even like top six top seven if a team is willing to trade out like the Blazers if they want to package those those two picks or something else or figure whatever it might be it depends on the team is the Pacers could be an example but I feel like that's a team that we should definitely watch out for because like they're young still the Hornets so if they take during it was like 18 30 19 it makes a lot of sense LaMelo is only like 21 it's not like you have to win now you're still playing for the future and like you want to make the playoffs this year because you almost made it last year but I think that's a very reasonable situation for them to trade up into I think Cleveland is another one where you know they have the sexton contract coming up they have a little bit of a log jam there and a couple different positions yeah we could see them maybe maybe not top five but maybe they get in the top 10 or maybe they clear a little bit of roster space just to since they turn two guys into one and again get with their timeline or they go to jazz too and like I think if a star comes available like Donovan like or Levine like that's perfect they have a playmaking guard who is not scored first they have the defense they have like a bunch of guys that can play as rotation second unit like they add Donna Mitchell like that's exactly what they need to take that next jump I feel like they're in a really good sweet spot where they can shoot for win now or they could say hey we're on heaven wobbly's timeline and we're gonna do that and work with that and you know we're about to find out problem sure all right we have a winner we're going to announce that now for the contest this is for the 100 DFS points for Fando and the signs to Deak Bay Jersey the winner is we don't have a drum roll so I could like bang on the table but I don't want to like potentially mess up my connection the weather's been weird here in New York but the winner is Max McSweeney congratulations Fando's going to reach out to you tomorrow to get your information so they can send you to sign Sadeek Bay Jersey and you know hook you up so shout out to Max thank you for everyone who entered rocking with us yeah we can clap for him as somebody said in the comments we can clap we clap that won't shut off the mics or anything like that um you know we got we got heat Celtics now and speaking of Donna Mitchell I feel like one of these teams Miami here in particular uh it could be looking at Donovan Mitchell later on so we're not gonna we're not gonna go for too much more just uh just some last observations here but um do we think that like do we have any big sort of bold predictions because we talked about a lot of players that could potentially be on the move I think Donovan Mitchell is probably the biggest name the biggest domino that I expect to fall be it in Miami unless Tyler Hero starts to pick it up or New York in particular but what do we what do you guys see between now and a draft in terms of a player movement um I think the draft is kind of a getting of it uh you know so I'm with you with the same guys like I I think that jazz are ready it maybe they need a little push and shove from Mitchell or from Rudy um I don't think those bulls guys are moving in part because of the injuries and in part because it just makes more sense for them to stay there there's not something that's already made situation that exactly mean pops into and it makes makes complete sense unless he's dying to be a nick I guess I don't know who's dying to be a nick he's tweeting every day about the Rangers and that's and stuff so you never know he might be I mean that New York like it's no joke but uh no I think I think Mitchell as of right now and then eight and I but the thing about eight is it seems like everybody's expecting that already that's not gonna be surprised yeah I think I think Nick should also I think the Knicks should also snoop around at the Andrean situation if they don't get Donovan Mitchell I think they should try to get Mitchell I know they want to keep RJ Barrett and I think that they should I'm trying to figure out how you can do that while getting uh while getting Donovan Mitchell keeping RJ Barrett and doing that you're gonna have to give up a lot of draft capital including the 11th overall pick you just got so Ryan where do you sort of stand on all this I mean it's hard to say no like those are definitely guys and Donovan is definitely a big one to go bears also one I know teams like the Mavs or the Hawks could use one I think maybe it's me knowing too much like trying to learn too much about the Hawks or something like that but like I know they're going to be in the market for a guy this year whether that's going to be if the Celtics were to lost last round I would have said Jaylen Brown if maybe Bradley Beal but I don't think he's ever going to leave Washington where they could go for a center also they could go for someone like Miles Turner if he's on the move Malcolm Brogdon is definitely going to be on the move don't know where he's going to go because of his injury history and his age he's probably going to be cheap so if he can be healthy I think he's a great like bargain get almost and I think teams like the Hawks that need another playmaker another ballhander like that doesn't make sense so he's someone maybe not of like stardom status per se but I'd say he's going to be on the move too yeah they got a couple of wool pieces there whether it's Collins Capella or even Deondre Hunter who I think is an enticing young player for a lot of guys but it's just about them finding that fit and it has to fit around Trey and I agree with you that they need another ballhander they need their Jaylen Brunson and he's not going to handle the ball all game and as much as we as much as we say yo Trey needs to get off ball he's not going to very much but they need to spell him a little bit and make it at least so you don't just trap a more game and you win the series that's on the staff too like that's so much on Nate McMillan and it's it bothers me like Steve Kerr and I'm not comparing Trey and Steph I know people hate that I'm not doing that but Steve Kerr instilled that in Steph from day one and they never had elite playmakers or like stars until clay made it's also games in Dreymont and stuff and they're still not like these great ballhandlers by any means but he instilled that in Steph like that's what helped him become the best shooter ever and like Trey's not going to become that but that's what they need to do they need to mimic that to get the most out of Trey in their offense so yeah he's not six eight six nine whatever Luca is to where it's like it doesn't matter if you double me I can make the passes so yeah I mean they have to figure that out because I mean I watched it happen with Kevin in the regular season and playoffs it just seems like teams are just going to double guys now like we're just going to double you at half court and you have to give it up and they have to figure out a way around that yeah all right now that the heating Celtics are going to take the floor we're going to get out of here thank you everyone for watching for rocking with us for 45 minutes draft lottery we did get a surprise the Sacramento Kings sure man the Sacramento Kings I mean we'll see what they do with it but all of those all of those teams are pretty much under pressure now to 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