 Matt down, what will the city of Davis handle that? And if it passes, what will that also bring us? Go ahead, Brett. So measure P is sort of an interesting one. A very confusing one. It is. The ballot measure itself is confusing. You have a yes on P, and yes on P actually removes the rates. And if you support the rates, then you're supposed to vote no. And there's some confusion there. I think what's interesting is that the ballot measure itself relates to some confusing water rates. And the city and ourselves included have not done a very good job of explaining why we have the water rates system that we do. And then there was sort of an underlying good idea. And then we weren't able to sort of explain that good idea to the people. So a lot of people are confused about how their water rates are going to be calculated. And I think what we've done in a previous council meeting just about a week and a half ago, we recognize that fact. And I think it's clear that we want to, whether measure P passes or doesn't pass, we want to make the rates much easier for people to understand. And one of the interesting things, I keep saying the word interesting, but it is truly interesting is I was volunteering at the farmer's market for the past few weeks. And people would come up, and they were truly concerned about their water rates. And one of the things they don't really understand is they don't really understand what the maximum amount is that they could potentially be paying for their water rates. And I think we could have done a much better job at explaining that even in the worst case scenario, water will cost less than a penny a gallon. And why this is important, I had somebody literally come up and say they were afraid to flush the toilet because they're worried that they're not only paying for the water that they use, but it's going to set into motion some additional surcharge for water they use in the future. But even with all the possible negative, if every single negative possibility occurs, water still is going to be less than a penny a gallon. So this person would spend probably closer to a penny to flush their toilet. But they don't know that. And that's in large part due to us not communicating very well. Well, lesson learned. For next time, there's a hot issue. Right, absolutely. All right, so the sales tax increase was another top hot issue. And if that fails, what is the council going to consider dropping? Sure. Well, so the city council has proposed a budget that we'll be acting on in mid-June for adoption by the end of June at the latest. And we currently have a structural deficit at the city of about $5 million. And if measure O is successful this evening, which we are confident, I think that it will be successful, that will bring in an approximately about $3.7 million of that $5 million gap. And then the council has already the proposed budget that we are planning on adopting in June already has built into it an additional over $1 million in cuts through a number of things, through some attrition, through positions we will not fill again, for example. But if measure O is unsuccessful this evening, there is no question that we will have to make severe cuts across the board. Yeah, absolutely. Anywhere between 12% across the board or up to as much as over 20% across the board. And that would include public safety in parks and many of the things that we really value. And things that make Davis Davis. I mean, things that we value, I think. The majority of us is Davis citizens, so. Absolutely. So it'll be interesting to see what the early results are. Well, we also felt that the sales tax increase as a half a percent. Current sales tax in Davis is 8%. The proposal is to raise it to 8.5%. That is a very small amount of money comparatively. So it's about, if you buy $1,000 worth of goods, that's actually $5 of an increased sales tax. And I hope people understood that and realized that we're very lucky that we've chosen Davis as her home. And so let's keep all those good roads and amenities going. And actually, if I could ask for the election, yellow elections results to be put up for measure O, it looks like there are the initial absentee ballots. These are ballots that are mailed in ahead of time. A lot of people in Davis and in Yolo County are registered to vote permanent absentee basis. And if you mail them in or drop them off at the registrar's office before election day, there is a statutory regulation that allows them to pre-open those and begin the counting process today at a certain hour and it's all very regulated. But I believe that we have measure O up and I believe that it shows that we're 55% yes, 45% no. Nice. So normally as absentees go, so goes a measure. The measure P is actually fairly close to that as well. I know that the slide isn't on the screen and I apologize if I'm already driving the Diane Madd. But measure P is also similar to that 54 to 46. The yes. 54 yes and 46 no on measure P. So very similar results overall. And the two council guys are taking a look there. So that's just with as they have here on the election site, 0% of the precincts reporting. So that's, but that is the absentee votes that have come in and so it's, it looks good so far. So far. Well, it just, Lucas and I were both opponents of measure P. Right, no, it looks good so far for measure O. I'm sorry, I'm sorry for measure P it doesn't. But as you said the action you took the other evening really, I don't want to say in a sense nullifies measure P. I don't want anyone to hire an attorney to come after me. But you basically said you're willing to, you want to redo what you've done and you hope to whether the measure passes or fails. I think that- Can make it more clear too. Yeah, absolutely. I think the fear that many people have with measure P passing is it creates a window of uncertainty. And- For the future of the water project. And it's just nice to have stability and then sort of an orderly fashion of how we change the current rate structure so that it's a smooth transition as opposed to the rates being rescinded. There's sort of a momentary gap and then we sort of work to fill in that gap with the new rate structure. But Woodland didn't have these issues that we have, right? Correct, that's correct, yeah. They went for a more traditional rate structure and there is something to be said for that. And again, I think there was a good reason why we went with the- CBFR, yeah. The innovative plan. But we did not do a good job of explaining that. So if you, like we do- But all big issues are big political issues in Davis. We're very special in that way. That makes it fun. Even small. And there's no question that this has been ongoing for a good number of years at this point. I mean, we've already had a community vote last year on whether or not to pursue or allow us to continue to pursue the joint water project with the city of Woodland. This is just yet another extension of that original measure. Right, right. Well, and we are good in Davis wanting our voice to be heard and that it going to the polls and having it heard. Yeah, there's no question that democracy is alive and well in Davis today. I'm sure that there's days when you wish it was a direct democracy and you didn't have to go to as many meetings as you do. So, but we will see how the results continue on and it does look like measure, at this point, measure P is narrowly winning, which is, or on the yes side, which is I know not exactly what you wanted. Yeah, that's okay. I mean, you know, we're- Things have changed really. I mean, even since the ballots have gone out, you guys took what some might say was a courageous stand to put it on the agenda and take a vote and not say, we'll just sit and wait. Right. So, we will watch the results tonight and then what happens in the future. Well, we've really been focused in one of the things that's allowed, frankly, for us as two members of the city council who are not running for election or reelection at the moment. It's actually allowed us to spend much of our time over the past number of months being so slowly focused on the governance of the city. Right. We'll see though now and after tonight's election and see how the council race turns out and such, we'll see what the new makeup is of the coming council and have a chance to sort of get back to really get back to work. And think about your reelection in two years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're next steps. You never know. Never know. I didn't see any city council results on the website and that's probably just because- That's probably a good thing. I don't know if you want to catch our expression. Here we have some up there. Well, it looks like Rob Davis is in the lead with John Munn, just a few points behind him and then Michelle and then Sheila and then Daniel. Wow, interesting. But really just a few points in between the top three or even top three for sure. Yeah, okay. Well, thank you. That's good to see that is just the absentees, as we've mentioned. So there are still a lot of votes yet to be counted and yet to be delivered to Woodland and opened and counted and so in fact, all the people who turned in absentee ballots at the polls today, those ballots will be counted tomorrow and in the days to come. So if the races are tight, it may be something that is not easy to call tonight. Yeah, it's interesting. It's also, I think also a little bit, and we'll see what the final number of ballots cast is and also the percentage of turnout. But as of even yesterday, it's been extremely low and which is really a real shame actually and particularly in a community like Davis that it prides itself on civic engagement and civic involvement to have such low turnout and there's no question that this election is just as important as any other. Totally right. I think that, I mean, you would think that in a community as also as not only engages Davis's, but as educated as Davis is that people would actually get out there and cast their ballots. They're just, I think there wasn't a lot of scandal. There wasn't a lot of intrigue. There wasn't, that always draws people in. Maybe people are busy watching the Kim Kanye wedding and got distracted. Hopefully they still filled out their ballot and took it in today. But, you know, I mean, it just everybody, the city council candidates were all really nice and they were basically nice to each other and there wasn't, you know, we've seen in years past campaigns that get ugly and lawn signs stealing and some of that stuff. And I know that as we were setting up, there were, we mentioned lawn signs and having been involved in campaigns for many, many years in Davis, lawn signs are the bane of every campaign's existence. You have to have them in Davis. It's one of the few cities where you still do. But I know that Lucas, you shared a comment with me which I echo completely that there's too many lawn signs in the public right away. And that's unfortunate. The city has a pretty strict ordinance about the locations of where lawn signs can be placed and where they're not supposed to be placed and they're not supposed to be placed in the public right away and public, you know, sort of in the public, in the easements like that. And so, and it just was, I certainly noticed it but I've heard from many, many folks, you know, down at the farmer's market or, you know, at the food co-op or wherever, you know, just downtown shopping, having dinner, people have definitely noticed this year that there are, you know, just lawn signs, you know, that are in all these sort of public, the public right away. And maybe they ended up somebody was doing pranking at midnight and putting them there. Yeah, certainly a possibility. It could be, but it's, I did see that there, and it wasn't really any one camp. There seemed to, they seemed to be kind of like California poppies, they just kind of pop up everywhere, you know, so it is concerning. Although we do such a good job in Davis of our sign ordinance, it's just impossible to have the person power to go out there and pluck all those up. Absolutely. So, and they're expensive. You want to get them back to the campaigns that own them. I mean, you really don't want your city to, employees just putting them in the landfill. So, hopefully. Yeah, traditionally people are pretty good about collecting them, and the nice thing is the campaigns will cooperate. So they'll go and they'll just scoop them all up and then drop off, you know, the signs. And some are going to recycle them at a special place. Oh yeah, exactly. Right, right. But yeah, there was definitely seem to be their sloppiness or laziness on the part of some of the people placing the signs. Because it, you know, sometimes it's hard to know. Is this the public right away, but other places. It's been a lot of business. So sure, just put a sign up. Yeah, that was another campaign. But it's interesting, there's been, you know, even more than that, just the amount of signs, like, you know, in the median strips, you know, along Covel Boulevard or, you know, in other places, you know, in a lot of, you know, around the Mace Curve, I mean, places where they just haven't been historically really. But I was glad to see that we have been able to enforce the no agricultural signs in the city limits. There were a few that popped up and they were taken down rather quickly. So the bigger, sort of the large, the four by area, the four by area. Yeah, they're, they're, our ordinance is, the city ordinance is such that that's not allowed. And it is in other cities, in Yolo County even. But a good job on making sure that those were taken down because it does change the look of a neighborhood. So all of a sudden have. Giant billboards, you know. Exactly, exactly. So, well, we appreciate you guys coming in. We know that you have parties to get to, to go see how the election results continue to come in. Nothing like election night in Davis. Yeah, right, right, right, that's right, that's right. Party hopping ability. That's right. It's a good thing it's not on Thursdays. It's Thursday nights in Davis, downtown, just if you don't know. Anyway, the kids have turned it into the new Friday night. So, but, well, actually we have a few more minutes. If you'd like to stay and talk about, it looks like you're gonna have one new colleague at least. Rob Davis, I don't know that that's any surprise to anyone that he's in the lead at this point. This is still just the absentees, I believe, but he has been everywhere. He has long signs everywhere. He of course has the right last name, you know. If his name was just Jerome, he could say he was a zombie and came back. He's paid his dues for community service also. Oh, yes, absolutely, yeah. Yeah, that's one thing I think that the community really values. I mean, there's certainly a number of folks over the years who have been very involved at the city level before being on the council in terms of commission service and such, which Rob certainly has been also involved in. But also the, I mean, I think that this community in particular really values people's service to the community as well and non-profit service in other ways. I think one piece of literature said that his family, it's one of his kids, they haven't been in, they've been riding a bike since like 2003. Wow, you don't know how you do a big shopping with that, but that was impressive. There's ways to do it, yeah. You do, you do. There are many people in this town that do it. Absolutely. So, yeah. Well, I, thank you for having us in. It's, you know, the other time we're talking, it's kind of fun coming in when we're not running for something. We can just sit here and kind of relax and just kind of watch from the sidelines. You're not tired. You're not sweaty from door hanging at 4 a.m. Still got good hair. That's right. Well, they both have good hair anyway. I mean, Matt Rex road has got to be jealous. I mean, my goodness. You know, he's threatened to run for the Davis city council. That's right. But he would, if he runs in two years, he'll stand out with you guys on the ballot for sure. Well, maybe he'll grow his hair back long. I'm not sure that that's possible. I'm really not, but we appreciate you coming in and appreciate your service. It takes a lot of time to be a city council person and we appreciate that. We're really enjoying it, I think. We've developed a very close relationship and we get to work together, so. Yeah, looks like we're really well together. I feel very fortunate to be on the city council and just the people that meet and also just, you know, working with Lucas and my other colleagues. Likewise. It's been a great, you know, great working relationship. The other thing is, I also want to just say, and I think it's true for Brett too, we really appreciate the election coverage that Davis Media Access provides the community. It's very, very important to service the community. And, you know, it's, I mean, there are so many people tuned in tonight at home who otherwise wouldn't necessarily know what is going on in terms of the election and election results and such. Right. Yeah, right. No, it's a community resource. We are very, very fortunate in Davis to have it. Absolutely. It's really the only local media left in the county so we're fortunate for that and hope to do a good job tonight covering what's happening. That's great. So thank you. And thank you. Yeah, thank you both for your time. Thank you. And we'll be watching the rest of the interviews. Oh gosh, we'll be on our best behavior. Yes. Excellent, good. So I will pull up some, how about if we pull up some statewide results? Let's look at... From the assembly race, by chance? Yeah, yeah, let's look at the assembly race. We've got a couple of colleagues who are around. Yes, yes, you guys have kind of been next to the hot seats, so to speak. If we could pull up the state assembly district floor race. Here's the Yolo returns. Yes. Those are the Yolo returns, yes. And that shows... Dan. Dan and then Charlie Shop from Asparto because it's a top two primary. If we could pull up the secretary of state, if we could pull up the secretary of state results that show all the counties for the assembly fourth assembly district, I think that will show, and perhaps the same. Oh, it looks like we have secretary of state up here, Alex Padilla and Pete Peterson. Of course, that's not the Pete Peterson that used to be on the board of Davis Media Access. If he's watching tonight, and he's just waking up from a coma, I don't want him to think that he's gonna be the next secretary of state. But it looks like Dan Schnur is trailing in a distant third, and then, of course, Senator Leland Yee, who I don't believe will be eligible to serve. So Alex Padilla meeting that rather quite clearly. And all of these top two primaries, this is a new thing for California. We did it a little bit last election, and now in the primary, this is the first time that it's been rolled out statewide. And so that means that it's really anyone's ball game in some races, and we may see that yet tonight in the district four results. It looks like Dan Wolk is in the lead here locally, but Bill Dodd is in the lead district wide, and Charlie Schaup would be coming in second at this point. That, of course, is just absentee ballots, and that's not surprising. I'm sure Charlie got a lot of absentee ballots in for him, and we might see those results change as the evening comes on, but we will continue to watch those results. And others, we have been joined by a shy gentleman who apparently doesn't want to sit too close to him. I thought I'd be a forwarder. I thought I'd be a forwarder in his mind, but I don't know about Rosenberg over here. We have Bob Dunning, not too many people are used to seeing him, except maybe chasing him down in Nugget, but... I brought the kids because there's free food out there. Yeah, good, good, thanks for announcing that. That's good, perfect, perfect. Welcome, Bob. We're glad you could come in and sit with us. I'm pinching for Daniel Pirella. Okay. I think he got stuck in the drive-thru lane at Jack in the Box. Oh dear. He's a kid, you know. Yeah, right, right. Well, and the bike in the drive-thru lane, it's difficult, it's difficult. They don't know that you're there waiting to order, so... The last two guys you had on, I really liked them. Yeah, they have good hair. I think they're very sincere. They have good hair, too. Yeah, they do. I don't like that part. Me either, me either. Yeah, I really resented it the whole time. I watched the last council meeting. I think they're sincere about correcting some of the deficiencies in the water rates. Well, and I meant what I said about, I think it was a gutsy thing to do. Yeah. And I know they've taken some pot shots for doing it. Who would take pot shots? I don't know. I can't pull anybody into a thing like that. No, no, no, other people. Other people. So tell us. Wendy Weitzel, mainly. Mr. Denning. Yes. Was this an exciting election for you? Yeah, more exciting than it was for the voters, apparently, because I went to vote today with my family and I thought I was visiting the Maytag Repairman. Yeah, the guy gets up and hugs me. It's like, oh, a voter! Yeah, because they get paid by having votes. Do they? Do they? That's how Freddie's doing it. No, come on. I think they make $3 an hour, though. Oh, I don't even know if they make that. I mean, it is. It's a long day. That's abusive. We support our troops and we thank them frequently with Memorial Day and Veterans Day. I wish we had a day where we could thank election workers. I mean, we got a judge race with four candidates. We got an assembly race with five candidates and two of them from Davis. And it's very contentious. I mean, it's not like it was just, like previous assembly races, there was one Democrat and one Republican, so Democratic District is kind of a foregone conclusion. So what about this assembly race when we have two well-known city council running? That's why in the old West they invented duels. You just have them back-to-back three paces, turn fire. You know, and then we only got one Davis candidate. That's what they should have done. They made a bad mistake, or that's why they had smoke-filled rooms. Right, well, yeah, yeah. They should have duped it out, settled it. Jesse Unmru and John Burton would have settled it, I'll tell you that. So I think it makes it very difficult for either of them. I think so. I think so. And it looks that way. When you look at the Secretary of State's results, those are early. There's still a lot of votes to count. Are they only... The Secretary of State mean the entire district because Yolo County is only a part of this assembly. When you look at the Secretary of State's results, it's got Dodd in first and Shalpen second, top two, that would be, but this is very early. Lots of votes to be counted yet, may not yet be decided tonight. But when I read 30% turnout, maybe, if they're lucky. And then you figure, the thing that people forget is that's of the registered voters. That's only about half the people that are old enough to vote. So now you're down to 15%. And somebody gets half of those, which is 7.5%, means one person in 13 voted for them. And he walks around saying, I got a mandate. Yeah, no, no, no. I think it's gonna be hard to have a mandate off of tonight's returns, but... I think the judgeship race is very interesting. It would be nice to pull up those results. I know that I have somebody who's interested in seeing those. So if we could see the judge race on the Yolo County elections website, that would be great, because we haven't seen it here in the control room. And yes, and that's about what I thought. I see this long purple line. So that's very, very nice. My prediction was Baronia with 55%. Yeah, well, that's still good to happen. She has to get over 50. It's unlike the assembly race. If she gets over 50, she wins. If she doesn't, you know, no disrespect to the other candidates, but she's way better known. She ran a good campaign and she had the support of every Yolo County judge, which that's, you know, generally I don't pay too much attention to endorsements. Especially in Davis, you don't know anybody telling us how to vote. But when you see that every judge, and there's a diverse bunch of people there, supported her from, I don't know, what do you want to call them, from wherever they are politically, or personally, or socially, or anything else. That's quite a statement. No, it is, it is, it really is. And, you know, the retiring judge that's going out, you know, was one of those, that Steve Mock was thrilled that she was running and. Steve Mock's way too young to retire once the deal there. I know, I know. I think that needs to be investigated. I do too, I do too. What is he, 40? He looks it, he does look it, he does look it, but he's, I think he's done his time and his wife retired, and sometimes that the magnet starts pulling. Time to start hitting the hiking trail. That's right, that's right. So what's it like to be the most well-read column besides the comics here in Davis? And Wendy Weitzel's. It's fun. Yes, that's true. Well, Wendy, you know, she has to be. And Debbie. That's true. True, true, true, true, true. Deborah, Deborah. That's right, that's right. And speaking of retirement, so you're going to go up for another long time then? I don't even know what the word means. Okay, good. I have no intention of retiring. Good, yes. I have the best job in the world. Yeah, why would he? I know. He's been in permanent retirement. You can type it home and send it in. I mean, you type it home and send it in. He's upgraded his wardrobe, you know. There's no holes in his shirt tonight. I mean, I remember. The borrow the shirt. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I wear tie shoes. Yeah, you did. You did. You had sandals. Yeah, you had somebody help you with that. Good, good, good, yeah, good. The pope sent me a note. He says, he said, cool it with the sandals. I get to wear the sandals, not you. Yeah, there you go, there you go. I'm the humble one, not you. Yes, he is. That's a whole mother. I think he should run for Davis City Council. We're gonna see how he does. Oh, I think he would appeal to a lot of people. I mean, he refuses the driver. He refuses the fancy apartment. Yeah, yeah, I mean, if we could just switch that to an electronic model, he'd probably be in. So of course we'd have to find out, you know, how he is on measure P and measure O and a whole variety of other subjects. What's the matter with, I mean, Davis, the second most, you know, educated city in America and we can't get people to vote in a, I mean, you've got, you've got P and O. Very, very important. Both very important issues, hugely debated. The assembly race. And the assembly race with two, two Davis people. And the judgeship race. And four, Daniel Pearl is running a very good campaign but he's not gonna be in the top two. But four people, any of which, if they were elected would not surprise me. Right, right, right. They were all serious candidates from the get go. Everybody, as soon as they announced said, oh, that's a good candidate, that's a good candidate. And I think Rob Davis probably ran the best campaign and because he was the least known of the people out there. Everybody knew Sheila from nine years on the school board and the most recent stuff of the volleyball. She was kind of a household name there for a while. And, you know, the shells are an incumbent and John Munn has been, he's run for assembly. He's been on the school board. He's a known quantity and sued the city on the water. So he's a known quantity. And Rob was the one that a lot of people didn't really know. So he worked very hard. He worked very hard and he broke that barrier. I'll tell you that. And that's the same, you know, with Brett Lee, who knew him two years ago. Brett was a bit of a surprise. He snuck in there. I had people realize that he was coming on, but I don't think anybody thought he was gonna make it. Right. And I saw a Sue Greenwald sign today. Really? On a Lehigh drive. Really? That must have been a joke. It's right next to her crevosa. It was kind of blocking crevosa. Somebody had it hidden in their garage and saved it for a special occasion. Let's see how many write-in votes she gets. Oh my, oh my, oh my. Well, let's hope it wasn't in it. Let's hope it was in someone's yard proper, not in a public right away. Yeah. And you know, I mean, the lawn signs. I've never seen so many lawn signs, but it's mostly because I travel up and down East 8th and West 8th, Poline, the main thoroughfares. You get off those streets. There's no signs. There's none. It's like they all concentrated everything. They're putting six crevosa signs in one yard or five woke signs in one yard. And corners, corners. Corners, they're a lot. You know, they just asked if I could put a sign that they would say sure. My next door neighbor who just moved here from Fort Collins, and in fact, he's moving back. He's gonna leave the water bill for somebody else. Oh, okay. Yeah, and he, one day there's two crevosa signs. He's got it right on East 8th Street. He's got one of those corner lots so everybody can see the signs. Two crevosa signs and a yes on peace sign. The yes on peace sign lasted about three days and I was gone. So he was out front harvesting the lawn and I said, I said, how did that happen? I mean, you just moved here, you know? And he says, I have no idea where the yes on peace sign came from. No idea, you know, or what happened to it. And one day it just appeared. He says the crevosa signs. One day some guy knocked on the door and my wife answered and he seemed like a nice guy. And he says, would you like some crevosa signs? And she said, sure. Oh, and that is sometimes how it happens. Especially on that street. That is, I think it's the second most traveled, maybe the first most traveled. Well, after we have the road diet, it will be, I'm sure, probably the most traveled. They're bringing Dr. Ackens out to supervise the road diet. Are they? Yeah. Okay. Back from the dead. Zombies are in. Zombies are in though. So he could do it. It's kind of a bad ad for his own diet, isn't it? It really is. It really is. Yeah, yeah. Well, he didn't die from high cholesterol. He slipped and fell. So I guess anybody could. Well, Jim Ficks wrote the book about running and then dropped dead while running. Yeah, which is why I don't run. Yeah. You're smart. That made a lot of non-athletes feel good. Yeah. Yeah, just for sure. So other than a measure O, a measure P, I mean, the city council race was pretty scandal free. Pretty. Pretty much. Yeah, there wasn't, there were no of those pack mailers. Right, right. No one accusing someone of killing the Bay Bridge. You know, that's really disturbing because I sold Bill Dodd those balls. Yeah, I saw that in your column. Under the I Street Bridge in Sacramento. I took him right off the I Street Bridge. I sold Bill. No omission. That thing's rusted together. Now he's getting the blame for it. I love the picture of Dodd with the same outfit, one over the Pacific Ocean and one in the Napa Valley vineyards. Right, right. Exact same, you know, it's the blue work shirt, sleeves rolled up, leave eyes. Yeah. Thumbs in his pockets. Couldn't be photoshopped at all. Could have been photoshopped. No, not at all. He had the same expression. Oh yeah, well he's good that way, I guess, I don't know. He knows how to do that. Could be, could be. He knows how to pose for the photographer. I have never seen so much. Oh. Garbage. Big garbage, big. I mean, it was like poster size. It was like, I mean, you unfurled it from the mailbox. Joe managed to stay clear of that and it appears that he probably heard him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't have a pack sending stuff out. Which is unfortunate. That's a sad commentary if that's what it takes. So, although some people have packs that send things out that they wish they hadn't. They didn't, you know, a lot of times. We had, we had that. We had a couple of council races ago. Where they changed the dynamics. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so. I wouldn't know because I don't get any mail. Really? Nope. We'll have to talk to Dave about that. I didn't get one piece. You didn't get any mail? No political mail. I get all of it and. Yeah, we could share. I got my stack. We got a call today from, I was the only one home. It was about noontime and the woman's voice says, is Shelly there? And I said, no, she's not. Can I take a message? She said, you were just reminding her to vote for Dan Wolk. And I said, okay, I'll pass the message on. And then I'm like, what about you care if I vote for somebody? No, you're a guy. No, you're a guy. You're a guy. Too bad. You weren't done the call. You're not in the demographic that they're looking for. That man's world ad he came up with. You know, they don't want any men voting for him. No, exactly. Exactly. Well, it's an honor to have you here and we could keep you here all night. In fact, you could just move over and we'll bring in the next guests. Bring in the food. I'll stay. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, your kids are out there eating it. It's probably gone. They bought big pockets too. Did they? You've taught them well. Yeah, put the cookies in there. And I came out with the boobies and the bobbies today. Yes, I said. I didn't get to see it. They're right here. They're right here. They're in this paper. OK, wonderful. I got a quick glance at them. They're much coveted awards. Yes, they are. They are. I'm glad you come out with them before this show. Yes. Yes, thank you. Thank you for that. And I'll send the check. I'll leave them with you. Yes, yes, and all. You know, as things slow down. Yeah. Trying to fill. Yes, please do. That would be wonderful. That would be wonderful because my Davis Enterprise Deliverer doesn't always get it to me before the sun goes down. The booby is named after the bird. Yes, I know that. I know that. I know that. So we appreciate the bird that tries to land. Right. We appreciate you coming in. And you are a citywide treasure. And we're glad to have you and glad that you're not retiring ever, ever. Like I said, he's been retired the whole time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just don't tell Debbie Davis. The bee's working for a living. Don't tell Foyle. Don't tell any of them. That's right. That's right. That's right. Well, we will go to some coverage, some other results. Perhaps the propositions and the Secretary of State's website, the two statewide propositions. We could take a look at those. And that would be 40 and 41. Correct, correct. And I know a lot of people get to that part of the ballot and they think, oh my goodness, there's something else. So if we could look at Proposition 40 or Proposition 41 and see how those are going. In Yolo County results, it looks like it's a strong yes vote. 63, almost over 63%, yes on 41. Which was the VA bill? That's the Veterans Housing Bond. Yes it is, yes it is. Very near and dear to the heart of our current Assemblywoman and also former supervisor and some current supervisors are also very interested in that Veterans Housing Bill, pardon me, Veterans Housing Bond. If we could look at the results on 42, here we've got them up here. It looks like that's much closer. We're talking about 51% to 48. So that's the public records meeting cost measure is not doing as well as 41 was. So we have some new guests here in the room with us and we're glad to have you here, Joe. Wonderful. I'm sure you've been up since about four this morning. Election Day is always an exciting day when you're on a campaign. So we're glad that you could be here. And who did you bring with you? This is Leslie Hunter, my longtime friend. And Leslie ran my city council campaign and was one of our cornerstone coordinators for the Assembly run. And came back for more than you. Good for you. We love to hear that. Really, four years later, here we are. Right, right, right. So tough race, it looks like you might not make the top two, at least with the absentees as it is now, but lots of votes to count yet. So and we haven't, I don't know if there's been an update in the Yolo County elections website with more than absentees yet. But we will keep a watch on that. But great campaign. I mean, you ran a clean campaign. And Bob Dunning was just talking about that on his way out. You didn't have all the super huge mailers for against somebody else. You didn't have a constant mail coming in every day about you. And that was cleaner for the environment, cleaner for our mailboxes, and maybe part of the reason why your numbers are what they are. Because at this point, because the mail, apparently, those kind of things make a difference. I don't know. It turns me off. Everybody I talk to say they hate it. Yet you read something enough times. Yeah, you sort of remember it. So what's your feel from were you surprised with the first numbers that came in? I haven't seen the first numbers. So we could pull that up. Actually, let's just talk about the race. Sure, yeah. But we came in from the lot. We walked in, we got mic'd up, and we're here. And I'm curious. And so it has been a tremendous, tremendous experience to run. I was going to say, what's it like running for the assembly versus running for city council? That's a huge. Right. I mean, it's completely different. I mean, I knew that I would look to draw on my city council tenure as mayor and my work, kind of in fact based policy at UC Davis. And we'd carry that out to the district and see if we could find the connections. I have to say I was really taken by surprise as I got out to the district and saw all the different ways in which the district is really unified. People think this is six counties from Williams to Roanert Park, all the way down to Clarksburg, up to Knights Landing, all of Napa, all of Lake County. And the interest in higher education and quality K through 12 education, that is absolutely universal. Water is a dominant issue, whether we're talking about rights or quality. And we found great resonance with the district on that. And then certainly fiscal sustainability, which has, I think, really been the hallmark of my time on the city council. Every county, every city is dealing with exactly those kinds of issues. So getting out to the district, it's a completely different world. I mean, when you're running in Davis, you're in your element. You know everybody, you know every issue. You know your paper and so on. Once you get out of it, there's Sacramento, there's Roanert Park, there's all of these different people. There's a whole set of new players and interest groups in a good way. The community groups that are very active all over the district, you get to know them. And I found the reception for what I've done, what we've done here in Davis during my tenure was tremendous. So we'll see how the night goes. There's really three huge waves of votes that are gonna come in. There's the early absentee, and we know Napa has a much stronger presence in absentee than anywhere else in the district. And then there'll be, of course, the votes from tonight. And then there's gonna be the absentees that were turned in today. And I just, I haven't seen the results, but I will say that as our campaign progressed, and as others went negative, and as we weren't part of that, and as we said we won't be part of it, and we're instructing everybody aligned with us not to be part of it, I think our campaign did very, very well. So I'm looking forward to those votes, especially those that were cast today, and those, that's really at least the next two batches that we're gonna see. So we'll see what it says, but what a great experience this has been. Right, no, undoubtedly, undoubtedly. And great lawn signs, great buttons. I know a lot of people were really questioning why both of you decided to run at the same time. So did you guys even confer, or just you made up your minds independently? Well, you know, Leah and Andrea, for me personally, it's been a great opportunity to serve for four years to complete my term, and this to me seemed like the perfect next step, and so I was delighted to run. It might have been nice for it to be different, for it to be democracy, and we each make our decisions. No, and you don't get to pick your opponents, and you can't really tell someone else, hey, would you get off the ballot? I mean, that's, so I think you both handled it gracefully. City council meetings could have been a lot more contentious, and I didn't see that, so I applaud you for that. But, and the results are early. I would like to see the Secretary of State's results on District Four, because the Yolo County results had Dan Wolken and Charlie as one and two, and you're right in there as three, but if we could see the Secretary of State's results, that would be district-wide just to give you an idea, because that then has Mr. Dodd and Charlie Schout. So Leslie, were you at the farmers market around this whole district, or did you pretty much stay in Davis? No, I was all over the district with Joe. Yeah, it must have been quite an learning experience. It was great, and if we had so many volunteers, Davis volunteers go with us to other parts of the district and canvas with us and make new friends and really form some understanding of the concerns they had in their community, which were similar to the concerns of volunteers. Do they also have big farmers markets like we do that you had at Davis? We like to think Davis. They have big farms. But Leah, to your question, people had said to me, you're gonna find that once you try to go out of Davis, it's very different, and I couldn't disagree more. When you go to Roanert Park and they're a university community, they have Sonoma State. They have some of the same town gown issues. They wanna leverage their university for economic development. They wanna make sure their children can go to the university, and the conversations over there were spectacular. You go to Napa and you share the ag values that we have for open space. In fact, ag open space preservation in Napa and Sonoma arguably are a bit ahead of where we are in Yolo County. So I found myself learning about how they do different things to preserve ag gland over there. So I found the district very unified. It's an ag district. We shouldn't forget that. I mean, this is the coast range. This is the rice farmers. This is the wine grapes. This is cattle. This is Sonoma Valley as it rolls over. This is tomatoes and nuts over here in Yolo and the interest in ag and communities that support the ag and ag supporting the communities. There's a whole host of things from affordable housing to distribution services and so on that are really universal. So we saw that. It was really exciting for me and it was unexpected. Yeah, that's wonderful to hear because I know it's a new district, two years old, but a new district for this is the first election being held in the new district. And for us it seems so much more spread out than we were much more compact before, but it's good to hear. And I'm glad that there is more. And there are so many more things that unite us than divide us. I know you probably have a few people you want to thank and we're being told that the next guest is here and mic'd up. So do you have a few people watching on TV or listening on the radio or that you'd like to thank? You know what I want to thank, we had over 750 individual donors to this campaign. It truly was a grassroots effort. Nobody owned this. In the end we had somewhere around 25 volunteers who were not 24-7, but for 13 months those people were everywhere we needed them to be whether it was working on position papers or the website or building the database and to everybody who was part of the campaign, thank you, thank you, thank you. I have two thank yous. Yes, good Leslie. Definitely our other campaign coordinator, Davis resident Michael Larson and Joe's wife Janet was a strong member of our team. Great, the family. And it must have been really uplifting to get a check from somebody outside Yolo County that supported you and sent a check in. Yeah, that's absolutely right. You know one of the things we didn't expect at all was so heartening. Five of the independent newspapers around the district after interviewing all the candidates endorsed our campaign. So in the end the enterprise, the B, the Daily Democrat, the Santa Rosa Press Democrat and the Fairfield Daily Republic, wow. That was adding that to the Sierra Club and the California League of Conservation Voters. We really had a lot of wind in our sails. A nice way to finish out today. Absolutely, absolutely. Well we'll let you get back to your party. It's always good to see you. And great that you stuck with it. You did a city race. Now you've done an assembly race. People will be calling you. Hopefully not too early tomorrow. See them what you're interested in doing next. So, but we appreciate it. We'll be watching the results and we might see you out there on the party scene if they let us out of here before midnight. Perfect, we love it, we love it. We're glad to have you come in. And we would, I would love to see the results on the superintendent of schools race on the Yolo County website, but it looks like they had something else queued up for me. So we'll do our best to read it. Oh, that's the, this fourth assembly district race. And I think it's the same results as we saw before, still with just absentees. And it's actually so far away that I can't see it. So sorry to admit that I'm 47 and Vic Lim was right. I didn't, I do need glasses and I have them on. At any rate, if we could see the Secretary of State's results on the Yolo County superintendent of schools race, that's another one that has been hotly contested here in Davis and around the county, but doesn't look like a Yolo County elections website, superintendent of schools is not coming up. So that's okay. We will, we, there's no results yet. Okay, on that, I'm getting notes that I also can't read. I might, maybe I need to go back and get my glasses checked. Well, in the meantime, we are joined here by our assembly woman, Mariko Yamada and Autumn Labay Renault, executive director of this fabulous community resource here, Davis Media Access. And I know that assembly woman Yamada has something that she would like to present. I do. We'll let her do that here first. I'll hand over the mic so to speak. Well, thank you very much. Well, first of all, good evening to you both. It's wonderful to join you again for another exciting election night and one that is for me a little bit different than years past because, you know, I think this is the first time I've not been on a ballot or chairing a campaign of some sort. In the last, yeah, something like that. So, so tonight it is a pleasure really for me to join you because on your 25th year, I know of service to the community of Davis and I had asked Autumn earlier about, you know, have you ever received an official assembly resolution? And the answer to that was no. And all these years that I've been coming to the station, I have not seen an assembly resolution. So on behalf of the California Assembly, I want to present to you this recognition. Thank you very much, Andrea. I'll still stop you. Yeah. After all these years. Yes. Plus I can't breathe without my glasses now. But I just want to say that as a former board member of then DCTV and now DMA for the many contributions that you and all of your staff and volunteers have made to the enrichment of the community of Davis and providing this kind of public service to all of us, me included, I just want to be sure that you are recognized. Thank you. And that this assembly resolution will be a testament and who knows to the next 25 years. Thank you so much. Of what's yet to come. So congratulations to you. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you very much. And I just hope everyone here can see it at home. It's probably has some glare on it. So I'll tilt it a little bit that way. And on behalf of all of us at Davis Media Access, thank you so much for honoring us with this. And I do like to think, you know, long live community media. Absolutely. So with that said, I'm not usually on camera election night. My place is behind the scenes. So I'm going to duck back out and let you converse with these lovely ladies. And thank you so much for this and for coming in. All right. Thank you so much, Adam. Thank you. It is unusual to see autumn in the studio. It is. So see. It makes us worry that, you know, there's a catastrophe out there. No, no. We know. It's all under control. As far as we know, and that's what the way we like it. So it is an unusual election season for you. I know that I got an earlier taste of what it is not to be involved in elections. Every time there's one that comes up a couple of years ago, I backed away from it and started this job or this volunteer gig. And so I kind of lay low during election season and it's really, really odd. And this had to have been really, really odd for you. Well, it's a little unusual because of course, as you know, because we've all worked together for so many years here in Davis, it's really just one election to another and there's always something very exciting going on. But, you know, there are times when it's good to take a little break and sort of step back and do a little observation. And re-evaluate what you would like to do. That's true. That's true. But tell us about some of your favorite accomplishments being in the assembly. Well, you know, the six years have gone by rather quickly. It's kind of amazing that it's been six years already. But I think the first four years I can just characterize really as some of the toughest years that I've ever experienced in any job anywhere that I've worked over the past 40 years. This last couple of years though, you know, I think have really provided the pathway for us to begin to come back from the recession, the depression, depends on how you look at it. You know, there are still people that are struggling and so it's still not over. But I think for me, as you know, my principal policy area was at the county and continued through the assembly years on my favorite topic, which is aging and long-term care. And may we all live a very long life, as I say, do not criticize or do not complain about long life because it's a privilege denied to many. But it has been a pleasure for me to try to continue to advance the aging agenda because for all of the younger listeners out there, in about 20 years, 20% of California is gonna be 65 years of age and over. And so that means one in five are gonna be seniors. And it's something. I wonder where I'll be in that. Well, I think we're all very youthful actually though, but I will be joining that club next year. So, you know, that's just the opportunity to do that work has been very satisfying. But you know, we had to take some really horrible actions and many times affecting the elderly as well as children. The most vulnerable always are the ones that are disproportionately and negatively affected. And you had that 100 birthday club. Absolutely. It's a different kind of century club. You know, we had a century club of a different sort, but this is a century circle, yeah. And you know, when we started that program, actually it took me a year to sort of get everything put into place. But we started that program in 2010. We already have over 90. That you've attended. 90, you know, 90 centenarians. And so, you know, there's going to be a lot more of us. So look out everyone, you know. Aging is not what it used to be. It's called aging and raging now. Well, and it is. I mean, that you're going to join the club that has a significant birthday in one year. You know, you're nowhere near ready to stop, to slow down. I mean, maybe take a brief pause after your duties are over in December. But knowing you, you're not retiring. Yeah, it's your brain fit doing some quality. Well, you know, this is my 40th year in public service. Because I pretty much started working right after graduate school in 1974. You know, when I say that sometimes to some of the young people around, they say, oh, well, you know, that's a lot. I wasn't even born then. Exactly. You know, you have arrived when they say, oh, that was like 20 years before I was born. But I find it just great to be around all ages. But there is one trip that I already have planned. And it's one that I've been wanting to go on for several years. But it's always in the middle of June, which is what? It's budget time in the state of California. So no can do. No can leave the state mid June. But there is a professor of black history, Black Studies at Solano Community College by the name of Dr. Karen McCord. And she does the tour of the Deep South every middle of June. And so I have my seat reserved for next June to go on that trip. We'll fly into Memphis and then get on a bus. Not the same kind of buses that the Freedom Riders were on. I'm sure this will be a lot more comfortable. But we'll be going to all of the iconic sites, the Civil Rights Sites in the South. And it's just something that I've always wanted to do. And every time we would see John Pamperin and Terry Turner and Dick Holdstock and God rest Terry Turner's soul, they would talk about going there. And I have never had that opportunity. So I'm going to go do that. And we'll see what the future's going to bring. When are you going to visit some unpleasant sites? I'm sure they're well, you know what? Sure, I think there will be classes. I'm sure it will be disturbing. But we see the rollback on voting rights that are not dissimilar to what we fought for in 1965. That's 50 years ago next year. And so I think even though it's maybe not quite the same it was 50 years ago, it's kind of like back to the future. And we know what we have to recommit ourselves to fight for. Well, I know you have. Just one second, it's nine o'clock and I'll get fired from my volunteer job. And yes, if you're in Davis, you know you can get fired from a volunteer job. This is the top of the hour. And actually my dear friend was going to read the top of the hour at nine o'clock. So I'll hand it over to you. So we're, Andrea and I are obviously enjoying our little community service at the station here. But it couldn't been done without the staff that pulls all of this together. So we'd like to say thank you to our good friend, Diane. Didashka, who's the director. Right. I'm always thinking of cookies when I think of that. Our floor manager is Dan. Our cameras that keep us informed are Bryce Parker, Bill Larfene and Cliff Gamble. And of course our audio board and phones are Tyler. Floor manager for our guests, our Oona. And our technical support is Derek, Alex and Jeff Shaw. And of course where would we be without our producer, our executive director, Autumn LeBae-Reno, who we all dearly love. And we need to be sure and tell you that you're watching local cable channel 15 on Comcast Cable. You're viewing us over the internet at davismedia.org or listening to us on KDRT, low power FM at 95.7. So. And that would be channel 17 on your cable. Channel 15. Oh, channel 15. If they go to channel 17, they'll see some graduation or high school, you know something from the Brunel-Perquinae Arts Center. Yeah, don't change the channel, please. Now stay tuned. Yes, exactly. They've got lots of fun coming. That's right, exactly. And we would love to see the Yolo County election site come up and show us either Yolo County superintendent of schools or city council. Oh, look at that, asking you shall receive. It looks like it's still, oh, there's a few precincts there, those are probably Woodland precincts. They're closer to the county office and can get their ballots in earlier, not earlier, but as soon as they shut down. Right. It looks like Jesse has just a narrow lead there, 51% and Mr. Neustadt at 49. So that will be a race that will go into the wee hours of the morning and perhaps into the days ahead. So we don't need to look at any results for you because the results are already in. You've done a fabulous job. Thank you. It's been a great honor to do that. And it's been a pleasure knowing the Assemblywoman on a personal level. Absolutely, we do go back quite a number of years. It will not be an Assemblywoman. That's true, I will be turning into a pumpkin shortly. Yes, for sure, it will be a woman. November 30th. And it might not be anybody from Yolo County. Well, you know, there's still that other campaign to do in November, so we shall see. Right, right. And you can walk, later you can walk down the streets and people will still ask you questions. Well, thank you, Leah. They will. We'll try to give them a good answer. They will, they will. She'll have office hours at the senior center. You've been fair to everybody. Well, maybe not everybody. Nobody can be, but you are well with that. It's been a great honor to do so. So we still have a few months to go. You still have session to close out and a budget to get through. And so you've got a lot of work to go back to at the Capitol. This isn't over yet. But thank you for your years of service. And we look forward to seeing you back in here, telling us what you're doing next and keeping us, keeping us posted. We'll have some announcements, you know, at the right time. At the right time. You are always very judicious that way. She could have run for judge. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. You have to have a lot of degrees. Yes, yes. Or at least pass the bar. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And a bar number. Yes. So thank you for coming in. It's great to see you. And we hope to see you around town for it. Always a pleasure to see you both this evening. Absolutely. Out at a party sometime. We'll see you then. So we will, thank you. Thank you for coming in. And thanks for the assembly resolution. 25 years is really amazing in local media. So if we could look at the city races again, now that there's some precincts reporting from Yolo County. Let's see if that, no, it's still showing zero. Maybe it hasn't been refreshed or maybe the Davis precincts just haven't made it to Woodland yet. Gosh, they've had an hour to get there. Yeah, there's a real system to everything and it takes time. And so we are joined now by Sheila Allen here in the studio. Welcome. Thank you. Beautiful outfit and you got your eye voted sticker to stay. Yes. Mine kept flying off. And at one point I almost had it stuck on my glasses. It's my second outfit of the day too. So it's a good one. Oh, it's a very good one. The lucky sticker. Good, good. So how are you doing this evening? I'm sure you've been busy all day today. Yeah. Started early. Yeah, I started early by going on making sure the signs were all in place. And I was down with the Democrats doing some phone calling and then on social media updating Facebook and such. And now there's a party going on without me. So hello, party. Yes, yes. Well, you'll be back there soon. She'll join you again soon. So you've seen the results. It looks like they haven't changed it. But it's early. Yeah, very low numbers. Very, very early. So it will be into the wee hours of the morning probably. And with this trend of people dropping off absentee ballots at the polling place, it could go into the next couple of days. I agree. And we were talking about that at the party. Even at the people at the party, there were like five or six people at the party who said, oh yeah, I have my absentee ballot that I put in there. I'm like, oh, okay, this is gonna be a while. Yeah. And you know, you try to tell people, send it back. Take it, drop it by in Yolo County in the basement there. It's really easy. And then it gets counted along with the votes tonight. The ones that were dropped off, they have to take time in the next few days to verify those signatures and to open those up. And so they really are almost like a provisional ballot. They're not provisional ballots, take even more judicious scrutiny. But it's people don't, the people think that by putting it in there, that that gets thrown into the machine tonight. And there's too much already going in the machine tonight. I'm patient. I can wait. So what are your plans when you are elected to the city council? Do you have any issues that you'll have high priority or? Yeah, well, the first thing that we have to do is we need to hire a permanent city manager so that we have the very first task. And they've put things into place and it was very nice of the current council to wait to get somebody permanent until we had the election. So we have an interim person and of holding the reins at the moment. But that will be the first thing that needs to be done. And then looking at the budget issues, of course, there has been discussions of perhaps the parcel tax in the fall. That has to be something that by the calendar would need to be done in the next few weeks. So right away they'd need to get to work on or I would too need to get to work on something like that if it were to happen in November, that decision hasn't been decided yet. And then one thing that's been a social issue that's been increasing in Davis is homelessness. And there was a, there's an ongoing group of elected officials that because I'm on the school board now I get to be a part of that looks, it's all current elected officials, school district, city and county. And we have every other month meetings in the last one last week was on homelessness. So we're trying to get our hands around what, to better define it, what is the issue with it? And then how can we as a community address it? So I'd really like to help with that. It's an increasing issue too. Well, I think so. And I think the data on it is a little squishy. So I think we'd like to, they're talking about how we can better get some more specific numbers on the population and there are subsets of the homeless population that we need to take a look at. So, right. How did you like having a well-liked political sign from Rich Riftkins? I liked it. It's good to be number one. Very easy to read. Yeah, well Kudos to my friend and campaign manager, Rich Reed. That was actually very similar to my school board one. Okay, yes. It was basically Sheila Allen school board. And that was actually when we started, I just copied and pasted over the top till the new ones came. So it was important to us to have something that when you just looked to the side or looked in the distance, you could read it. Exactly, you could read it. No, that's smart. Totally agree. Very, very smart. Thanks, had all the information you needed. Exactly, exactly. A lot of people put websites and stuff. I mean, my gosh, if you got that close, you've been in an accident. You know, the airbag has gone on. That's what your website's for. Yes, exactly, exactly, exactly. You've obviously run other campaigns here on the school board. You've been re-elected to the school board. What about this campaign surprised you? What about being out there with the voters and just knocking on doors and talking to people? What surprised you this time? Yeah, this one, what was different? Because I ran seven campaigns. So I did five parcel taxes and two of my own campaigns. And what was really different this time is the social media anonymous negativity. That was something that really surprised me. And I would generally, I started reading it and then it was like giving me a stomach ache. I'm like, I'm not gonna look at that anymore because people would say things, false things about me. I mean, I am totally fine because I have a nine year record of work that I've done. So if you don't agree with the decision that I've had or a policy decision, I accept that because that's part of being an elected official, but just the nastiness, anonymous nastiness that surprised me. Yeah, that's unfortunate. I think that's societal. That's not limited to Davis. That doesn't make it any easier. But, and I mean, there's even rap songs about hiding behind the keyboard and posting things anonymously. And so it is a problem and I think it will probably be an increasing problem in campaigns. Well, I don't think it has to be. Well, especially for something like the enterprise, I would hope that they would stop allowing anonymous posts. The Sacramento Bee doesn't allow it. Right, right, right. If you're gonna say something, put your name behind it. Exactly, exactly, exactly, yeah. Whether it's true or false, put your name on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And just in general, like walking and knocking on doors, that's something that I really like. I was a visiting nurse for many years. So I kind of have a, I enjoy going and knocking on a random person's door and saying, hi, here I am. Yeah. And so it's always fun to see who opens the door because now I've been involved in town long enough that the door opened up to be one of our teachers. Like, oh, hi, I didn't know you lived here. Or I'll meet somebody, it's just an example, a retired engineer from the city who said, here's how it was and here's the direction that we need to go. And this is the one thing you need to know about. Like super, if I went to knock on your door, I never would have known that. Exactly, exactly. All the people with the secret information come in and I'll tell you. Yeah. No, I really enjoy walking. That was something that I always liked. Did you find people were at home? Yeah, you know, the best time, just anyone who's gonna be running a campaign, the best time is Sunday afternoons. Cause people are back from their weekend things. So that's Austin wins. Just watch out for sports games. The Giants or the Niners or so, you could be in deep doo doo. Right, and then you have to finish before dinner because you don't want somebody to open the door and say, I'm having dinner. That's right. Now it's time to start walking. That's right, that's right. Well, you've run a great race. Your lawn signs are definitely number one. We'll anxiously await more results and it may be a day or two before we know, but we wish you the best and it will be interesting to see as the results come in but we know you've run a clean campaign and... And you had the fire and the belly to get up and do it. Yeah, yeah. If I might, cause I gave a quick speech to the people that are at my party right now, but I really love Davis and no matter what happens with this election that it just warms my heart to see the roomful of people there and just out in the community of really good people and this is a really great community. So if elected, I will serve. And if not, there's lots of things that need to be done in town and I'm happy to help out with whatever needs to happen. That's great to hear. That's nice. That's great to hear. Thanks for coming in Sheila. Absolutely, thanks for having me. Yeah, we're glad you could be here. Well, we will take a look at the Yolo County elections website and I will let Diane pick what we get to see. City council. Yeah. We looked at city council just a minute ago and it still said the absentee... It hasn't changed. It still hasn't changed. Okay, well that's not good. You can go to something else. Yeah. Yes. So county supervisor, it looks like Oscar Villegas with the absentee votes is leading that race almost 60%, 59.8. This is in West Sacramento. That's in West Sacramento and Clarksburg. It's a district one. And then now we're onto the superior court judge, department three and Ms. Baronio, commissioner Baronio, looks like will be judge Baronio if the results hold up as they are. That's 34 of 128 precincts reporting. So that's more than just absentees. And it looks like Freddie Oakley's results are about 67% to 32% with 34 of the precincts reporting, which is probably parts of Woodland and absentee ballots from the county. And we have another guest here on the couch to join us and tell us about how this campaign was different than all of the other campaigns he's run. But we have John- This isn't your first rodeo, that's for sure. And he has one of the cowboy boots to prove it. John Munn, welcome, we're glad you're here. We just had the city council results up. It's still just the absentees early days, but you're up there in the running for one of the two seats. In fact, if I haven't memorized, you are currently in number two behind Mr. Davis. By a little bit. By just a little bit. So, and those are just the absentee ballots. So there's still lots of ballots to count. And as Leah said, this is not your first rodeo. So what convinced you to run for the city council? Really, it was because of major P and the fact that all of the other candidates were opposed to it. And I was working very hard to qualify it and supported it and believed that there should be a voice of support as we went through all of the forums and the other activities that the candidates go through. And once I got involved and I started to learn about other issues that the city having to do with the budget where it became a matter of pretty great concern about what's going to happen to Davis in the future and what we can afford in order to keep the place that we've come to love. Right. We heard about that structural deficit earlier this evening really at the top of this program with the two council members in. Brett Lee and Lucas Frerichs were talking to us about $5 million structural deficit. It sounds huge. I mean, so I know if measure O passes that helps some and it looked like in early returns, it's leading. Measure P though in early returns is also leading on the yes side. So far. And once again, just absentee results. So it's just a sampling, but a lot of times as the absentee votes go, so goes the night. So your yes on P efforts may have paid off. Yes on P looks like it might be comfortably ahead, but the difference between councilwoman Swanson and myself is very small. So I think we're just gonna have to wait to know what the result is there. It could be, I mean, it could be days. I mean, it could, you know, you just never, because with so many people turning in absentee balance today, it takes a while for those to be verified and opened and counted. Yes. So what was it like being on the campaign trail for city council with the other candidates though, John? I was impressed actually by just the demeanor of all of the candidates. I didn't feel that there was anyone involved who wouldn't have done well on the council. Very clean campaign, I thought. I didn't see any indication that there was any kind of underhanded activity going on at all. We didn't hear about the lawn sign stealing or the, you know, I mean, Sheila Allen referenced some negative anonymous postings on some different websites, and that's unfortunate, and it's unfortunate. I hope that some people will take a look at that and stop allowing anonymous postings. And I saw that, and I just didn't think that was associated with another campaign, but you're right, an anonymous criticism is pretty hard to refute. Right, right, right. No, it's hard to answer anonymous mail. You just don't know where to send the answer to. So, but you've been on the school board, you've served this community, you may be heading back into serving this community in a different way, and in perhaps even a more demanding way, city council, I know the school board members would probably meet me in the parking lot after the show if I say that they have it easier, but they do have fewer meetings normally, and you're looking at recruiting a new city manager and working on getting some stability to that position. I've actually been through that before on the school board because when I entered there, pretty much all of the top administrative staff was retiring, and so we did replace the superintendent and most of his top assistants. That's right. Who was the superintendent drawn at that time? Well, Floyd Finocchio was a temporary, and he made it very clear that this was temporary. Yeah, yeah. And so, It looks like the current city manager that it's temporary. So, I think that what I would say between the schools and the city as a city is just a more complex place. I mean, it has more programs. It has more employees. It has a lot of separate funds that add up to a big budget. One of the reasons that $5 million deficit is as important as it is is because that's against the approximately 40 to $50 million general fund. It's not against the whole city budget, which is close to 200 million now. Right, right. So, $5 million compared to, you know, 45 is a big chunk. Right, no, it is, it is, it is. I was told that I might do some thank yous here. Yes, please do. And so I wanted to do that, and it might reflect a little bit on my campaign because it was different than what I've done in the past because there were a lot of people that helped, and I won't going to name just a few of them because if I tried to name everybody, one, there wouldn't be time, two, I'd forget somebody and I'd get in trouble. That's right, that's right. But I think some people that I really want to point out are first Pam Nyberg, who actually did the organization and the coordination for Measure P and brought me into that campaign so that I was able to benefit from a lot of their work. Alzade Nickerbacher, who introduced me to the community, a lot of folks that I didn't know even though I'd been around for a long time, and then who really tirelessly worked on the campaign, Holly Bishop, who helped me design my sign and my materials, and so I greatly appreciated that. Michael Harrington, he's the fellow that kept pushing me to do this and then kept pushing me to actually campaign. Might say that Mike was kind of pushy about the whole thing, but Don and Nancy Price, and what I can say about Don and Nancy is they just introduced me to a whole new group of voters in Davis. A whole new group of friends. And friends. What I found was that people of divergent viewpoints can come together on something like a concern about finances and that was my purpose for running. As I've told people at forums, there aren't any hidden agendas here. This is really all about trying to keep the city of Davis in good fiscal health. And Glen Holderead and Joanne Bowen, who really led and helped with both phone and precinct work. I mean, just all the time. And there were a lot of other volunteers put in hours into mailers and phone calling, but there's two people that I really need to mention here. And one of them is my daughter, Kimberly, who came down from Oregon to help me with the day-to-day activities of the campaign. And she also helped design a lot of the mailer and advertising. So I really appreciated that. And my wife, Shelley, who basically kept everything going while I was ignoring it, including all the things around the house that I wasn't getting done anymore. That's right, that's right. I must say all the campaigning hasn't aged you at all. No, it's amazing, isn't it? I've got a good tan now, I said that's the main difference. Yes, yes, wear your sunscreen though. But it's amazing. He looks the same as he did when he was on the school board. My hair is a different color. But you still have it. I remind my barber about that when he starts making comments. So what will be one of the first issues you tackle when you do win this council race? Well, I think the current council has already sort of ordained that, and that'll be the Proposition 218 process that we'll be going through to adopt different water rates. Now, the council has committed to do that whether Measure P passes or not. So at this point, what Measure P does is it just ensures that nobody's gonna change their mind. Right, right, right. But it could also bring up some issues as we go along that we'll have to deal with too. But I think that'll be one of the early ones. And then there's the city manager issue. Right. Small, small deal of getting somebody who can be in charge of staff. Right, right. And five personalities. Yeah, I, at least. At least, right. I would say the only thing that concerns me about that is that the city council is a little more political than the school board was. When I was on the school board, I served with four folks who thought they'd elected a crazy conservative and didn't know what to expect. And what I found out was that, regardless of people's labels, when it came to an issue, they didn't necessarily see eye to eye or even necessarily fit the label. Right. And so I got to be the third vote on a lot of issues. And we worked well together. And there wasn't any acrimony that might come from not agreeing politically. We never, in fact, we never even talked about the politics, other than maybe grousing about money that the state was or wasn't sending since schools are largely funded through the state. Right. That is a difference with the city. Big difference, big difference. And they're all doing this local control funding and some school districts are winning and some school districts are losing and all having to go through a whole new process. So that's a whole, be glad you're not in that. Districts are winning and losing, but they're winning and losing on the prop 30 money. Right. The additional money is what's going on there. Right, right, right. No, it's, but be glad. I think the city council may actually be a little easier for a few months than the school board. But although they do have a superintendent and they're not looking for one right now. So that's, that's. And I don't want to talk like I'm going to be the councilman. This is just very, this is just general about the city because right now the vote is so close that. Right. As Leah mentioned, we might have to wait for until those absentee ballots get counted to actually know. Right. No, it could be, I know that Freddie Oakley and her team will do everything they can to have the results as quickly and as accurately as possible, but they take the accuracy seriously as do, I think all the clerk recorders across the state. And so it could be a few days and they really have a statutorily a few weeks to certify that vote. So. What's unusual about tonight is that apparently what I've been informed about is that a lot of absentee ballots got dropped at polling places. Yes. And you don't count those on election night. You have to open them, you have to verify them and then you have to count them later. Right. They don't get counted until the earliest tomorrow and it really into the week. So because there's tonight, they're all about counting the votes that were actually cast today. So it's a education that we need to bring to campaigns for future that really does slow down the process. I've worked at polling places and I'd really recommend it because you learn a lot about the process of voting. Right. And I've always found that to be both interesting and fascinating. It is amazing. It is, and they do wonderful work. It's a long day and we're glad that they do it. We're glad that you could stop by tonight and we'll watch the results. We know you probably have a party to get back to. I'm glad that you remembered to thank everyone, including your wife because the family is always involved in the race. Whether you say no, you won't have to do anything that never holds up. That doesn't happen. Yeah, Shelly's too smart to believe that. Well, she's been through this before. That's right. That's right. Thank you. Thank you, John. And we will look at, I guess we've got the judges race up here again. It doesn't look like it's changed much. Commissioner Boronio is in the lead by a great stretch and it would look like she's going to be judge Boronio before the end of the evening. We will work on that. And I believe that, well, the results of this... I'm speaking of the judges. The results have just vanished off my screen. Come on over. We both brushed our teeth and put it closer. Yeah, no one has wanted to get very close tonight. That's okay. I'm now surrounded by Rosenbergs. I'm outnumbered and out manned. By the way, I've been watching the two of you. You're doing a really fine job. Oh. If no one has told you that yet. Well, actually at the top of this show, the two guys with the good hair, did you see them? I hate that. Yeah, me too. Me too. I love them, but the hair bothers me because... But anyway, they thanked us. Of course, they'd only seen about 10 minutes. So they didn't know. We could have really messed it up. The night was young. Yes, we weren't. But yes, yes. So tell us about all this confusion on this judicial race, whether you had to live in Yolo County or even the confusion about having a bar number. Give us some more insight on that. And by that, she doesn't mean a bar like where you serve drinks. Well, the bar code I always said was joked about. Judicial races are different. And they kind of surprise people. I don't think people are used to seeing judicial races. And let me explain why they're different and how they're different. First of all, judges in California are elected. Right. In some states, they're not. Federal judges are not elected. They're all appointed. Now, to become a judge in California, about 95% of the people who are judges are there because they were appointed by the governor. Subsequently, they have to stand for election every six years. There is a small percentage who become judges for the first time by way of election. And we have such a situation right now in the election going on in Yolo. The last time that happened was 24 years ago. And it was the guy who she's potentially replacing, Judge Mock. Judge Mock ran for an open seat. The other people running at the time were Jerry Adler. Remember Jerry Adler. And Fidel Martinez from West Sacramento. The three of them ran. And in the primary election, Mock received, I think, 48% of the vote. And he needed 50. And he needed 50 plus one. Jerry Adler got something like 28%. And then Jerry Adler, who's really a fine gentleman, very noble guy, said, you know what? I'm not gonna campaign. I have to make up too much ground. And so Steve Mock was ultimately elected. But that was because it was an open seat. The person filling the seat just retired at the end of his term. And therefore it became an open seat. So that's what happened this time. And four people took papers out to run for the seat. Now, that's at the trial court, the superior court level. Judges are elected. We also have justices who serve at the courts of appeal. And at the Supreme Court, they also have to stand for election. But that's different, a different election. You don't get to run against them. No, it's up or down. It's up or down. They are put on the ballot for what's called a retention election every 12 years. You either vote for them or against them. And typically they are retained. Although a few years ago, we had three members of the California Supreme Court who were not retained, including Rose Bird. So the reason most people in the community are not familiar with judge elections is we don't see it on the ballot. For example, Ed Prieto is in a political office, sheriff. He's running. He's unopposed. He's on the ballot. Jeff Rizek, he's on the ballot, even though he's not opposed. Cassilvie is on the ballot. There are others on the ballot. But if a judge has no opposition, we don't get listed on the ballot. And so we don't see it that often. So yes, judges are elected and people vote for judges in California. And I know there was some confusion and I certainly did everything I could to clarify. People ask, well, how can all of the judges in Yolo County endorse someone? How can a judge endorse someone in a political race? And there's only one endorsement that you can make. And that's for a judicial race. Well, let me answer a couple of questions. Leah asked, do you have to live in the county to be a judge? And the answer is no, you do not. Judges are statewide constitutional officers. We have jurisdiction statewide and you're assigned to a county. You don't have to live in the county to serve as a judge in that county. And your question was with regard to endorsements. People said, I got this mailer and there they all are in their black robes and I didn't think that they could take a position. Well, of course, judges take a position every day in their own courtroom. When you become a judge, you get a book that's this thick. 90% of it is things you cannot do. And one of the things you can't do is be involved in politics. So I can't put up lawn signs. I can't endorse candidates as a judge with one exception. The exception is in a judicial race and it makes sense because if judges have to run for office, then judges can participate in judicial elections and so we have the right to endorse, to support, to have our picture taken supporting. In fact, the argument is we have a responsibility to educate, we have a responsibility in the administration of justice and we have some insight into who might be a good judge. And in this case, all the judges supported the candidate that was running for that. Yeah, in this particular case, and that doesn't happen. No, right, no. There are other counties where the judges are split, but in this particular county, the judges all independently decided to endorse Commissioner Boronio, which in a way made sense because it's someone we've worked with for the last 25 years. She's not a stranger to the judges. So we have the right to endorse and we did. Well, and it looks like it's paid off. I mean, it's early returns. You never know what might happen as the votes are counted over this evening and the next days. But she has almost a 53% lead with the absentee ballots and a few precincts reporting in from Woodland. As you say, it is early. And we certainly, in my experience, seen things change in the course of the evening. And it's exciting. We don't get to participate in judicial elections very often. So it's kind of exciting for the judges to watch this thing. So you guys have a big party? Well, I just came from a little house party, not so little anymore. There must have been 50 people there for Commissioner Boronio and we're all watching the returns come in and reminiscing about the election. I gotta tell you, judges are by and large with some exceptions are not used to politics, are not used to running for office. I know Commissioner Boronio, although she's a very good judicial officer, it wasn't comfortable for her to be a candidate. And, but she did it because that's what you have to do if you wish to be elected a judge. So she's kind of relaxing right now and- I bet she is. Kind of unwinding from an experience that wasn't necessarily comfortable. I bet she is, I bet she is. Never thought she would be in that sort of situation. Never in a million years thought she would be there. Well, we appreciate you coming in and explaining it. There's no one better to explain pretty much anything than Dave Rosenberg and you make it seem so simple. I used to be sitting in that seat once when I was in the political world. So you're doing a great job taking over. I'm trying to carry on the mantle. There you go. Good job. Good to see you both. Thank you for coming in. Don't be late. I'm driving her so we may have had Dorino after this. So we appreciate you coming in and we are going to pull up some results on the screen here and we're gonna, I believe we have our clerk recorder on the phone on hold and if they would take her off of hold we'd love to talk to her and see how things are going in the basement at the county offices. I'm... Hi, Freddie. Are you there? Hi, Andrea. Oh, there you are. Hello, we hear you now. Good. We've been trying to do our best here at Davis Media Access to educate the people about what happens with their ballots today and tonight and in the ensuing days because it's not over with tonight or probably even tomorrow or in the next few days. So... It'll be longer, yeah. Yes, it will. And I know you've got some tight races and even a race with your name on the ballot but last time we checked, you were in a comfortable lead as one would expect someone who's been elected many times and the incumbent of part of the job. It was slightly unusual to have a combined job and it looks like you may have some new stuff to learn but I know you're up to the task. What do you... How is it going tonight? How are the returns coming in and the ballots coming in? Things are going very smoothly in today's with good reports that are precinct today and most of the closings have gone very well as you know at the end of the election day the precinct workers, the poll workers have a daunting amount of bookkeeping to do and sometimes that seems to slow things down sort of terribly. This is so far a very smooth election. So we're looking at returns coming in pretty steadily starting about a half an hour ago. Good. Yeah, we definitely tried to talk to the Davis voters or we assume that although they could be watching from Japan on davismedia.org or listening on KDRT and it streams on the internet as well but we've been trying to educate them all night about the fact that it does take time to close out the precinct, take it to the collection site then it goes to Woodland and then it gets in line to be counted and we've definitely been talking and some of the people who've come to join us here on the couch and have been running council campaigns say that they've recently found out about how the ballots, the absentee ballots that were turned in today will not be counted until the ballots that did take place today. Ballots that were turned in in our office before five o'clock will be counted but the ones that are turned in at the polling place will be researched and counting will begin tomorrow. Right. And I think people don't realize that that really that they think their vote is part of the vote that goes up at eight, 15. And not unless they've gotten back to our office if it's been turned in at a polling place then it's gonna be stacked up on somebody's desk and we will crank through those as fast as we can but it's one by one in an orderly fashion and then they get sent through the scanners and then the results are compiled and then there will be an update in a day or two. Right. So Freddie, how is the, how's the voter turnout looking so far? You know, it looks to us from the reports that we've gotten so far from the polling places that voter turnout is pretty anemic. And I think that statewide we're looking at a prediction of about 30% and I believe that we'll be a little above 30% in Yolo County, partly owing to those exciting races and measures on the Davis ballot. Right, yeah. But we aren't gonna be far of 30%, I don't think. So maybe the count will go fast. Well, that's what we're hoping, exactly. However, as you know, because you voted the physical size of the ballot is huge and the larger the piece of paper the longer it takes the scanner to scan it and get all that information digitally converted. So there are pluses, plus not a high turnout in terms of speed, not a plus in terms of democracy. And minus is the size, the physical size of the ballot which makes it slow. Right, right. Well, and as you say, there wasn't as much intriguing the governor's race, those big statewide races that would normally draw attention were not as intriguing. And so in fact, one of the most intriguing things was that someone was running for secretary of state and on indictment. And he got plenty of votes. Yeah, yeah, it proves Dave Rosenberg's theory that you put a name on the ballot and people will vote for it no matter what it is. Right. Well, I have to say I love your use of the word intriguing because a lot about elections is sort of mysterious and intriguing. And some of that will show up in the returns as they come in. There will be things that will surprise and confound us. It's too close to call and a number of races still. Right. So it's going to be, as you say, intriguing. Yeah, and we're waiting for some of these big surprises. Oh, I know. Well, we hope to have a few at least. Yes, yes. And always more entertaining if there are some surprises. Well, you'll be setting up the visiting room and the visitors chairs and all of that for people who want to watch the ballots be counted in the days to come. Yes, exactly. If they're of a mind to watch paint dry, then they'll have that marvelous opportunity. And just like people voting for people who really cannot serve in the office anymore, there will be some folks who want to come see paint dry. There you go. And they're very welcome. Exactly. I actually believe, as you know, that the more people see this process, the more faith they can have in it. That's right. That's right. No, it's transparency is the best thing that can happen for democracy and for elections. They say that sunshine is the best disinfectant. That's right. And you and your crew do a great job of trying to, I think we're working on a new education campaign, though, about the turning in your absentee ballot at your polling place actually slows the process down. Yeah, that might, well, it just means that it takes longer for your vote to actually count. Right, right. And if you have worked hard on a campaign or have a neighbor who's running and you're really vested in a race that's going to be tight, just put the stamp on that or drive it up to Woodland. You always do such a good job of taking the drop-off ballots eight to five Monday through Friday. So there's really no excuse for not getting it in earlier. Yeah, come on down. That's right. That's right. That's right. Well, we, of course, will watch the returns. It looks like you will have a new job to learn, but this is still early. We won't, obviously, you haven't certified the vote, so we won't declare anything so until you do. Right, I'm not gonna start stressing about test yet. That's right. Don't you expect to be there until free in the morning, Freddy? Well, that's my prediction. Oh. You know, because we're the yellow county elections office and we will eat anything and we will bet on anything, we have our usual office pool about what time the lights will go out. And I think I chose 2.15, so it shows I'm an optimist. No, that may be early. Yeah. That may be early. I hope you win the pool, but that may be early, considering all of the races with tight candidates and lots of votes. Well, I've never won before, so I have no explanation. I'm funny now. I just took it with the important one. That's right. Well, it looks like you're doing that so far, and I think we would be surprised if you didn't. Well, thanks so much for that vote of confidence. So we will, we're glad you could join us and we'll let you get back to work. We know you've got a crew there working and they've got days ahead of them, so tell them that our thoughts are with them and we hope they're drinking Gatorade and eating their Wheaties. Well, thank you, Anne. Thank you to Davis Media Access for the really incredible job that you do to keep the people of Davis and whoever else is watching and listening informed and up-to-date on the election process. We consider you partners in this and we're very grateful. Well, we... Thank you, Freddie. Thank you, thank you. All right. Take care. Take care. Okay, well, we're going to look at some results that maybe we haven't looked at already. Let's see, let me look at the iPad and or somebody can surprise me and pull something up on the screen and I'll just run with it, but I can't think of what we haven't looked at already. Oh, it's one of the secretary of state ones and I can't see it, so okay. I'm going to, oh my goodness, they've blown it up here for me, so to speak and it does still show that Bill Dodd is in the lead and I believe Charlie Schaup is in the second place district wide. Oh, very close between Charlie Schaup and Dan Wolk now. So Dan Wolk early returns, looks like we may yet have a chance for someone from Yolo County to make it into the top two and to go to a November election and that's actually not a huge surprise for anyone. So I would love to see results on the governor's race. I know the democratic side is perhaps not as interesting but it is the top two, so our primaries have been completely changed. So if you guys wanted to pull up the secretary of state, maybe a governor or- And let's do lieutenant governor too. Yeah, so if we look at the governor's race, of course, Jerry Brown is way ahead but in the next two, the one that's going to perhaps go on until November, Neil Kashkari is leading Tim Donnelly and for that number two spot and that is how the polling has looked in the last couple of weeks and the press and the ads on TV and I don't find that terribly surprising. I don't know that that's the way the results will hold out for the whole night but we will look at that and then if we could look at lieutenant governor, I don't think there's anything particularly, particularly surprising about that. I'm sorry, I'm just trying to unbuckle my friend from her seat. Maybe Dan Choi could help us and Leah needs to be released from the room for a moment. Nothing like having to share that with a whole group of people that you don't even see. They're all our friends. Yes, they are. So everyone has to go to the bathroom sometimes. So we're looking at lieutenant governor and of course Gavin Newsom has a gazillion votes and is leading far and away and then Ron Nearing in second place which is what we would expect. He is the other major party contender. What about secretary of state now that I find myself alone here? Hello, I'm alone. No, I am kidding. How about secretary of state? We haven't looked at that in a few minutes and I know that Alex Padilla was leading the pack and I would imagine that he still is, he is and then in the number two spot is still Pete Peterson. And as I said, that's not Pete Peterson who was on the Davis Media Access Board. It's a different Pete Peterson but it looks like he may make it to the runoff or I shouldn't say runoff to the campaign and election in November. We do have somebody else on the phone joining us and I believe that is commissioner Baroneo. Hello, Janine. Hello. Hello, I'm Andrea Jones and I'm glad to talk to you. We've had Judge Rosenberg in here explaining to our audience you may have seen it about the selection process and elections of judges. So hopefully our viewership is better informed than they were before they tuned in but we understand that this wasn't your lifelong dream to run for an election. There's a lot of people who, their biggest fear is to speak in public and that's just because they've never thought about running for an election that would probably even be a worse fear. But you've done a great job at it. You've gotten a lot of support from inside the courthouse and also from the community. You've got lawn signs everywhere. You have signs and ag fields all over the county. So you've run an incredible campaign to be a novice at it and it looks like in the results that's paying off. So how do you feel tonight? Very, very grateful for all the help that I had during this campaign because you're absolutely right. Running for political office is not something I ever dreamed I would do. I love my job. I love working in the court and I'm very excited about being a judge but I never would have ever thought that I would run for political office but I've had amazing help from all the judges. Dan McGuire, Dave Rosenberg and Steve Mock have been just wonderful supportive people for me and I've been just amazed by all the community support that I've gotten. I was especially pleased to get 78% of the Bar Association support and all the law enforcement agencies in the county, victims, advocates. I've just been thrilled with the reception I've gotten from people. I've enjoyed some of this. I mean being a politician isn't my idea of a good time but I have really enjoyed the Davis Farmers Market. I look forward to that on Saturday mornings and I don't know what I'm gonna do this Saturday. I know I will be there just as a regular person and that's gonna be fun. That actually is a great relief having been at Davis Farmers Market every Saturday for entire election cycles. Many, many years of my life I will tell you it's a great relief to go and not have to stand at the table. But just talk to people because you enjoy being there. So you've done it with grace and I know people have been amazed to watch you at the Farmers Market and get to know you out in the community. So it looks like the results are still early but it looks like if things hold up you will win it tonight and not have to go to another election which as Dave explained you have to get 50% plus one to prevail tonight. And it doesn't appear that your other competitors in the race doesn't appear that anyone is drawing enough votes off at this point to force that election in November. But I know you'll be watching all night and into the morning and in the days that follow and we of course wish you the best of luck. Are there people that you'd like to thank other than the judges you mentioned earlier? I know there's your family and friends that probably have volunteered time and effort to help you in this race. Well I would especially like to thank my husband who has been there with me the whole time. I didn't really even ask him if there was a good idea for me to do this. The judges came to me when Judge Mock decided he was going to retire. The judges came to me and suggested it would be a good idea. If I ran and I listened to what they had to say I talked to all the judges before I made the decision but I really didn't talk to my husband which I probably should have but he stuck there with me and he's really been a wonderful supporter of mine so a big thank you to Bob for being there for me. Yeah one thing that we've mentioned throughout the night is the family's always come along for the race whether that means that they're in the front of the scenes at the farmers market putting out lawn signs, whatever it is. Walking side by side, walking precincts door to door. That's right, this is the woman who has experience with that. You each take a side of the street. That's right, that's right. So but it was probably a good idea not to ask him first. I mean, you've probably been married long enough to have learned, you just ask for forgiveness. Yeah, it's all the way right. Anyway, we know you have a party and we will let you get back to that but we are glad that you could join us for a few moments and it looks good so far and we'll keep watching the race but it looks like maybe by the end of the evening or sometime tomorrow you will be on your way to being Judge Boronio. So. That would be wonderful and thank you very much for having me on and thank you to Davis for all the support. I really appreciate the support I've gotten in Davis. It's a great community so we were glad to get to know you. Enjoy your party and we'll keep watching the results. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Janine. So I know we're getting close to the top of the hour but we're not quite there yet so I'm not gonna do those reminders just yet. The FCC has strict regulations on when and how that should happen but we are here at Davis Media Access and quite a few of the guests that have come in tonight have commented on, whoa it doesn't look like it did the last time I was here Oh my goodness. Davis Media Access is very fortunate to have community support. We of course are always looking for community support and I know that as of the end of last week we were about $2,000 short of our goal but I'm sure that we will make that sometime this month hopefully in the next couple of weeks. I think some of the campaigns have some extra money left over. They know where they can make a donation. Holy yes, she's great. So anyway if you haven't been by Davis Media Access lately or maybe even ever, stop by. It's a community resource. It's a community media center. We have a radio station. We have a TV station. We produce not only live TV like tonight but scripted and more rehearsed segments that maybe are even more professional than this. But the studio. I mean here you have two unscripted friends helping our local TV station. And look how nice we look on TV. It's not bad, it's not bad. I'm three-fourths of the screen and she's one-fourth. But it is- I'm just waiting for the phone call from KCRA or something. Come on board, Leah. Yeah. We are at the top of the hour and that means that I would like to once again tell everyone that we're glad you're watching Davis Media Access on DCTV Channel 15 on the local cable carrier. That is also streamed live on davesmedia.org so you can watch it anywhere. And we're on the radio. KDRT at 95.7 FM, it's our local low power station. We have had a lot of folks in tonight. There will be several races where we are not able to have every contestant come down and talk to us. As you heard, we have one of the judicial candidates on. She is leading the race right now. And if that changes drastically, we'll do our best to get somebody else online and talk to them about how their votes are coming in. We've had Freddie Oakley on our clerk recorder about how the election results are coming in and votes are being tallied tonight and will be tabulated in the days ahead. So we're very fortunate to be able to interview people from afar and then also here in our lovely studio. None of this would be possible without the wonderful leadership of our producer and the executive director, Autumn LeBae-Reneau. She even popped into the studio earlier, which is unusual, but we were glad to have her. The technical support tonight is always Derek Service, Alex and Jeff, floor manager who is getting our guests miked as they come in. And so they're already pre-plugged in and ready to go is Una Cho and we're glad to have her on board. Tyler is handling the audio board in the phones. I know Leah is looking forward to phone calls. She's actually hoping KCR I might call tonight while we're on the air. I'm not sure how that will work out, but on cameras we have Cliff. Bill was here, I think we wore him out, but Bryce is still here. Maybe Bill's refueling and he'll be back. We have Dan Choi who is learning to put up with us and we love him for that. And helping us get unmiked when we have to make an exit. He's just the cutest thing. He should be in front of the camera. And then of course, Dianna Doshka, nothing would be possible without her incredible leadership as the director. She brings such a wealth of talent to Davis Media Access and makes all of us look more professional than we really ever hoped to be probably. Our number is 757-2419 and that's in the 530 area code. And if you're KCR, Leah's waiting for your call. Or probably any of the other stations, I don't know. Or NPR. Yeah, or NPR now. And now radio, now radio. I have a face that's made for radio. So maybe NPR will call. But I don't believe that our next guest is here. So maybe we could look at some results on some other county races. We, well, we haven't looked at city council in a while. Maybe there's some new precincts reporting on Davis city council. So I know that we're still at zero of 33. Is that okay? I'm sure they're in the, oh look, we're watching them refresh. This is just like being at a conference when they're getting their PowerPoint set up. I think we're still at zero. So we will, which means that's absentee votes. It doesn't mean it's zero. But those will be, those will be updated as soon as they make their way to Woodland and make their way through the line and get through the scanner. Freddie was talking to us earlier about that process. You wanna see how O and P you're doing then? If Davis hasn't updated, it would only be county-wide races that would. So how about the superintendent of schools? That's a county-wide race that has had a lot of support on either two good candidates. And so maybe that would, since it's a county-wide race, I think that there would be some Woodland precincts and maybe some other precincts that have reported and have been scanned in. So maybe Diane could, no. It's okay. I talk incessantly just to ask anyone who's related to me. So we will see some of those results at some point. We've gone through statewide races. There's not a lot of controversy there. It does look like Neil Kashkari has a chance of making it into the number two spot, which I know there are quite a few people who thought that might be possible. And here we have the county superintendent of schools with 34 of the 120 something precincts. And I think that's what we saw before, which is 51, 49, very close, very close. It's 700, 800 votes separating them out of over 14,000 cast in that race so far. And that's just a little over 26% of the vote in that race. So this is still early in the evening. I know it probably doesn't feel early in the evening. If you've been working on a campaign, you've been looking forward to today and you've been looking forward to today being over. And the good news is there's no more precincts to walk and there's no more lawn signs to put out. And no more literature in your mailbox. Well, sometimes they show up late. We have actually a very well-known candidate in the Yolo County arena that had a very expensive mailer come the day after election day. So I know that that's always what they hope won't happen, but sometimes we see those mailers come in the next day or two and the paid TV ads sometimes continue to run. But we are now joined by Dan Wolk and glad to have him here. I'm sure people are glad that you're here so I will stop talking about nothing because they keep putting stall up there and I almost stalled out. So I'm really glad to see you and who did you bring with you? This is my wife, Yamima, who is the MVB of my most important person of my life, but certainly not this campaign, but in my life. And you married her when she was 12 or something. I know there's laws against that, I think. Thank you, you're too kind. But I mean, well, both of you look like you're 12. So anyway, so it's not your first campaign, certainly not your first campaign, you married into a campaign situation. So hopefully that was discussed ahead of time, but certainly not your first campaign. You've worked on a lot of campaigns for other people, for people that you love and some people that you just like, but not your first campaign for yourself, but your first campaign in a broader arena. And that's just gotta be amazing. I mean, what was that like? It was a great experience and it was a real challenging experience. I mean, we started this over a year ago and I had a great team of folks. I mean, not just Yemima, but Will Arnold, who's my campaign manager, I should mention. And others who, and this district is just, it's just so big. It stretches all the way from Lake County, it's fourth assembly district, stretches all the way from Lake County down to Clarksburg over to Rohnert Park and encompassing six counties. A lot of miles. A lot of miles and places that aren't exactly easy to get to. And so it's a lot of work and it was a really challenging, but we really, you know, I enjoyed it. It was, you know, I felt like we ran a really, we ran a great campaign and a really positive campaign and just had a really great team. And yeah, we're really optimistic that, you know, at the end of the night that we'll, you know, we'll be in the top two. And then you will continue for another five months. Yeah, I know. Well, that's the unique thing about, you know, there are a few races. Top two. Yeah, we hope. There are a few races like this. And I mean, this is a good example of the top two primary, this sort of new system that we have, where, you know, it's, you know, it makes these much more challenging. It makes them a two part race in many ways. You know, this one could be that way. Right, right. And so, yeah. Right. Well, and I think some people, probably in Davis especially, were surprised to see Charlie Schout, you know, in number two, not necessarily surprised maybe to see you in number one, depending on, you know, what kind of long sign they have out front. But, you know, for a lot of people, that's not a name that they recognize. He's from Asparto and he's run for office from Congress on down, I think. I don't, this is not his first race either. No, no. But with the early results, you know, just taking Yolo County, he looked like he was doing really good. Then you widen that out to the fourth assembly district and all of a sudden, you know, he's down in the weeds because those other votes come in and they don't necessarily know him as well or I've heard of him. So I think that we will see as the evening goes on and as the days, it may not be just tonight. I think as Yolo's returns and Davis's returns come in, I think it'll, the race will begin to, or the sort of preliminary results right now will begin to change. We've seen that already. We've seen that already on the Secretary of State's site and, oh, they're letting me know that Charlie Shelf leads in Lake County. Well, anyone who's, that doesn't surprise me. He's not far from there and is known in those parts, but I don't understand the first thing that's on there, but that's just me, I'm blonde and I'll admit it. But we have had the Secretary of State's site up several times to look at the broader district because it is. I mean, you have six counties reporting. No, and it's a brand new district. I mean, Mariko's been in it now for two years, but this is really the first competitive race, competitive campaign in those six counties. And it's been an education process for people in Davis who are used to a woman from Davis being the assembly member. Well, that's not gonna happen for sure. We can pretty much say that right now. We don't need to, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, with hormones and surgery change, but I'm not suggesting that's a personal decision. But it's a whole different district than it was when your mom was in the assembly or when Helen was in the assembly. It's a completely different, it was much more compact. It was basically YOLO and Solano, and so it is. Yeah, the first assembly campaign I worked on was my mother's 2002 race. It was easy to walk, then. Yeah, I mean, it was very compact. It was very compact. You know, you had big cities, major cities in there, and this one is, yeah, the biggest city in this one is Napa, which is only about 75,000. And then you've got all the outlying areas where the big farms are. William, Jim, yeah. Yeah, it's a very rural district, and it's a beautiful district. It's wonderful, and I would love to represent it. And you can see how ag-oriented the whole area is. Yeah, agriculture plays a huge role in this district. Yeah, yeah. That's such education, actually. It's got UC Davis, but it's also got Sonoma State over in the park, and a few community colleges. And great community colleges in between them. Exactly, so it's a real nice district, and yeah, as the results come in, I hope it will be in the top two, and we'll, as you said, play on to November. Yeah, that's right. Take a few weeks off, go to Hawaii, and come back. Yeah, okay. Her husband would not be staying. Take a few weeks off, take a day, one day. Oh, they're still counting ballots. That's what you get. Yeah. Eat your weighties and get back out there. Did you grill Judge Rosenberg when you were in here? We tried, we tried. I only caught a glimpse of the interview, but... We tried, we tried. Wonderful, Leah's grilling. He's a cool character. Oh, yeah. Grilling, you know, we couldn't get him to sweat at all. He's fast for the answer. Yeah, yeah, well, you would know. Yeah, I think we all know. But before you leave, because we're getting all kinds of hand signals over there, I'm the closest I've come to playing baseball ever in my life. I'm sure there's other folks you want to thank. You mentioned Will Arnold, he's incredible. He's done a great job for you, and I know he's a good friend. And he's soon to be a father. That's right, that's right. Any day. That's right, that's right, that's right. The doctor said today, actually. Oh, yeah. It was when the doctor thought it would, baby was gonna come. And it could still. Yeah, still. Oh, 155, that would be so cool. It would be. Yeah, so it was a great team, and I had Will Arnold and Laura McCullough also help me on the campaign. Tracy Crumpin also helped, and just had a great team, and it was just a real, and just so many community members that I just can't thank each one individually. There's so many. Right, right. Davis College Democrats. And they take the strengths on the route, too. Yeah, exactly. And I would like to give a shout out to the three members of the city council that weren't running in this race for. Thank God. For their, not only endorsing you, but they're supporting me, and just working, it's just been great to work with them over the last two years, at least in the case of Lucas and Brad, but even longer with Rochelle. But it's just been great to work with them. So, yeah, Rochelle Swanson, Lucas Farrocks, and Brett Lee, so. Yeah, and two of them were already in tonight, and Rochelle will be here a little bit later, but, and Brett and Lucas are really carrying the work with OMP and some of the other stuff while you guys were off running your other races, and I know they were glad to be there and do it. Yeah, exactly. So. And those initial results from, from at least YOLO are just, yeah, it's really kind of, it's just really nice that, yeah, we have sort of that support from the community. Yeah, yeah, no, and as the results come in, I think you will continue to see that, and we will watch, we won't stay all night, Autumn won't let us. She has a do not disturb at some point, so. So, but we will watch over the days to come and we'll have that streaming on our Davis Media Access on DCTV and keep people updated as much as we can. So, we know it takes a lot to get out there and put your name on the ballot, and so, but we also know you have a party waiting for you to come. Yes, yes. So. And it must have been weird to wake up at breakfast and go, ah, this is the last, tonight it's completely over. It was. It was. But Yemima, I wish she, I cannot thank her enough. I think there's also two other blondes in your life that you better mention, they're probably in bed. Oh, that's, yeah. But with YouTube, they could see this. Let's hope they're in bed. Yeah, no, Avery and Layla. Yes, they are. They're definitely, even though they can't vote, they are definitely daddy's biggest fans. Yes. There are some great Facebook posts. Yes, yes. And a video, I think. Yes. Yes, a dance. Completely, yeah, made up. Choreographed by her. Wonderful. That's wonderful. That's wonderful. Thank you. Well, thanks for coming. Thank you. And the best of luck. Thank you. Best of luck. We'll keep watching. We'll do it. So, as they depart, we'll take a look at whatever results you've put up there. Let's see if I can read them. How about that? It'll be like a vision test. Yes. It is the Yolo County returns on the fourth district. And that's still with 30% reporting. And that is the numbers have increased, but basically stayed the same with Dan Leading and Charlie Sharp coming in second in Yolo County. Of course, that's only a part of the district. So the whole district is now up on the screen and I will do my best to read it. It looks like Bill Dodd is still leading it. And I believe that Dan is in second place, but I can't read those exact numbers. Oh, no, he's in third, but not by much. He has 10,000 something and Charlie has 11,000 something. So that will be a closely watched range. Yes. And you'll want to bookmark those two sites and watch them as the evening goes on and as you wake up in the morning. And we are joined now by city councilwoman, Rachelle Swanson, and who have you brought with you? This is Neil Roode, my campaign manager. Glad you could be here, Neil. And glad you could be here. I'm sure you've come from a party and you probably want to get back to a party. And you probably want to see some results come in from Davis. That would be nice. An update. And look at as classy as ever. Aw, you're sweet. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. So we haven't looked at that lately, but last time we checked it was still just absentees. Oh, wait, it's different. It's new. It's new and exciting. And it's still, you're still neck and neck with John Munn. It's, he has 37.1% and you have 36.1% with only 5.9% for precincts for morning. So I don't think, you know, I don't think we need to call suicide prevention just yet. A vacation plan. Exactly, exactly. Or get on kayak.com and book your vacation. I think that it will be late into the evening and if not until tomorrow. And it really the days to come because as we've been talking about all evening, those absentee ballots that are turned into upholing place take longer to count. And I think people don't realize that. People are starting to realize that. And I think that's kind of an education piece that we may need to do for future campaigns. They still get counted. They still, every vote counts. And Freddie Oakley does a great job with her staff of making sure that everything is done with great accuracy and as much speed as accuracy will allow. But they do not get counted until tomorrow or the ensuing days because they have to go through and verify those signatures. And it just takes longer. So I think it's an education piece for people to realize. I would agree with that. Because I noticed all the filmmaking we've been doing on the last week or two, there was a number of people saying, oh, I'm filling it out right now. And it's like past May 19. And saying, okay, so you know, you need to take it to your polling place or somewhere within the county. Right. So of the permanent absentees there was still a fair number. And I think some folks who were only doing absentee this year, same thing, you know, they didn't realize that. So how did it feel being the only incumbent running this time? You know, it was a learning experience. You should have been the only one running. The only one running in the reelection. The only one running council, right? Yeah. No, it was a learning experience. That's it. Today I was wondering, gee, should I have put land use attorney instead of incumbent? You know, cause a lot of people are taking shots of, oh, it's your fault that we have high water rates. Not realizing, you know, that that vote went round and round, you know, between September and December. And again, just a couple of weeks ago. And just a couple of weeks ago. And then the ones that were chosen, even that wasn't the first choice. You know, so it's very complicated. And so I think it's very easy. And I think there are a lot of folks who think, you know, that we could have less water rates. And it's just, the number is the number. How we get there is how we get there, but the bill's the same. So I think that has been a big part of the incumbency effect, you know? And then that's what happens sometimes. I noticed sometimes even during the debate, you know, that council, and I'd be like, wait a minute, I was on the losing side of that vote. But it's easy, yeah, to paint with the brush. So Neil, is this your first campaign that you've worked on or first campaign that you've run? First campaign I've managed, yeah. I've actually, I've worked on a number of campaigns here in Davis just through either volunteering or a consulting firm or one-off things here and there. But I've mostly been involved in the design or web tech aspects of things. So this is my first time doing sort of the management. Yeah. Yeah, volunteer coordinator, so to speak. I mean, you probably have a volunteer coordinator, but you're still the volunteer coordinator. I mean, the manager is the go-to person in the conduit with the candidates. Well, you know, I mean, one of the things that you get in city council elections, especially in Davis, is you get a lot of really enthusiastic people that say, what do I do? How do I help you get elected? And, you know, luckily I came out of UC Davis and this is one of the things Rachelle's talked about is, you know, trying to keep students around here. And so I studied political science and I've been able to bring a lot of those things to, you know, people that have, you know, these huge hearts for trying to make happen what they wanna have happen in Davis and, you know, just helping them connect with the tools they need to get those things done. Right, right, that's great, that's great. You put in time at the farmer's market also. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's funny, when I was a student, I never went and then working on her campaign now, I'm gonna keep going after the campaign. Well, go on Wednesday nights. Yes. Because our seroptimist club, we sell beer and wine. Oh, I live just down the street, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Wednesday nights, yeah. So it's safe, you can walk. Yeah. Yeah, so the chief of police won't have to worry about that. This was a good PSA all the way around. Do you have a parking space in your driveway? I don't have a driveway, I park on the street. Oh, see? And there's plenty of bike things on my car to prove it. Yeah. Nice. Hey, there's a lot of people that don't even have a car. Yeah. See, we were talking about this earlier, she can't believe people that have just ride their bike everywhere. For years. My 19-year-old is that way and he can't even perceive the idea of a car. Yeah. So, you know, you should have a license for emergencies. Yeah. Yeah, you will need to drive maybe. Yeah, you will need to drive maybe. But maybe not. Goes to school on West Campus. I mean, so, yeah, it's good. Yeah, well, and Google's coming out with a car that drives itself, so. He may not be on like that idea. Hey, I need to be at this appointment right now. Yeah. Like a multitask. Exactly, exactly. So, well, it's great to see a fresh face involved with campaigns. I mean, campaigns do kind of bring volunteers out of the woodwork and activists and people who are willing to put in the time because it does take a lot of time. I mean, you know that. This isn't your first campaign. So, you knew what you were heading into. But it's great to see a fresh young face that's helping and hopefully stays active in Davis politics. And he's had some great support. So, Brian Horsfeld is the chief of staff and he really helped out. And Eileen Sam, it's helped out a lot with the signs and helping out with the mailers and then K-Wrestler and Judy Wolf were also in the campaign and had some help from Nicole Arnold as well. And Bob Madaris was just wonderful. It was really good to have him not only as a mentor, but on the financing piece. So, I was really blessed. Am I forgetting anybody? I'm trying to mentally go around the table. Laura McCulloch and Catherine Ha helped out some too. And so it's been good. And then just the support has been really incredible. And you're looking forward to the passage of measure O. Yes. Yes, I am. I'm glad that it's looking good. I think people don't realize there's this idea that there's more to cut. But it's really been tough. It's even like right now with the deficit, it's like, well, it's overspending. It's like, well, no, you know, we've brought deferred maintenance from our roads actually into the budget. And that's had an impact. I think a positive impact. I think we're gonna, you know, as we begin to really tackle our roads and be able to improve infrastructure. And we have some new numbers up on measure O. It's still just that 5.9%, but it is still in the lead. And I think perhaps has grown a little bit since the last time we saw it. So it's only two of the 34 precincts in Davis. And if you've run campaigns in Davis, you know there's more than 34 precincts. Yes. Those are the consolidated precincts. You block them. You block them, you know that there's precinct 101 and 102. And so those are consolidated precincts, 34 consolidated precincts. And only two of those are in this tally, but it is still going in the yes direction. So. Just very good news. Yeah, cause it's, as your council member colleagues who were here at the very beginning of the show pointed out, it's necessary. It's very necessary, but it doesn't even solve the whole structural deficit problem. And so without it, it would be really something that we haven't seen in Davis in a long time, maybe ever. Yeah, it's pretty unbelievable. I think this council in the past couple before did a really good job, I think of protecting the community from the impacts of the recession, but we really are now just to that thin, thin veneer and without it would really change. And we need that bridge until we can really pick up on more revenue through economic development and seeing where we go with our partnership with the university and with other innovation and just really trying to pick up the other piece of it. So I think it's a good partnership with the community by being able to do, oh, they're partnering and saying, okay, we're gonna help fill this gap while you city really pull together and make sure that you can meet the other half of the budget needs. Right, right, and I think as a council, you've done an incredible job of coming up with innovations that initially when I heard about them, I said, well, that's never gonna happen. You're gonna combine two fire services, the city and the university, are you kidding? That's never gonna happen, and it did and it's working. So some of those innovations have been a long time coming and hats off for taking it on because there's a lot of entrenched people on either side of that. There are, and that's been, it's really been a joy to be a part of this council, not to mention that all, are we colleagues, but I think we all consider each other friends, but some of these things that you said, they seem like innovations, but the fire study, we've been talking about joining for over 36 years. Right. You know, Maynard Skinnerd in his 1972 State of the City address talked about surface water. He sent me, he actually sent me the transcript to say, promise to me this has not just come on the books. You know, so those are good examples of things that I think we've been able to kind of draw together and actually start moving. You know, it's, I call it the silver lining of the recession, is it really caused everyone, I think, to take a step back and say, okay, what can we do with all the wonderful assets that we have? That's right, and how can we do it more efficiently? Correct. That's wonderful, that's wonderful. Well, we know you have a party to get back to. We hope that if we get out early enough, we'll get to hit some of the parties and maybe see you on the circuit. We're glad you came in. Nice to meet you, Neal. Look forward to seeing you. You too. Maybe, they may- Go DMA. They may find replacements for us. I mean, you know, we, but if not, we'll see you here again next campaign. But I know that you've got a party to get back to and results to watch. So don't stay up too late. It may go into tomorrow or the next day, but we'll be watching them with you and wish you all the best. All right, great. Thanks so much for doing this. Thank you. Thank you, and go DMA. I love that. Don't get any access. So we will take a look at... Oh, no, I'm not gonna take a look at anything. I'm gonna talk to Supervisor Bill Dodd, I believe is on the phone, running for the Fourth Assembly District. Good evening, are you there? I sure am. Wonderful, welcome. We have been watching the preliminary results come in. We haven't been watching it county by county. We've looked at Yolo County and then looked at the Secretary of State's website. And you are in a convincing lead district wide and would appear that you will be one of the two on the ballot in November, but it's early yet. And so, of course, me declaring anything doesn't make it so. But you are certainly in a convincing lead with the few precincts that are reporting in so far. How do you feel about how the evening's going? Well, I think, you know, just visiting with our red star voters in Napa County and he's just, you know, he's done this for something like 30 years and, you know, well, I will respect the final results, obviously. He just feels like, you know, at this point, these numbers are gonna be very, very hard to overcome and I'm very, very gratified with that. You know, the voters have, you know, turned out that, you know, obviously, you know, so far I'm doing very, very well and I'm very, very appreciative. Yeah, it will be, I think, probably a long night and maybe into the days to come, depending on how many absentee ballots were turned in at polling places, those always take longer to count. So, and I know that there are quite a few of those here in Yolo County. So I know that it's early yet, even though it's 1030 in the evening, it's early yet for anyone to declare anything, but it does look like, and not, I don't think surprising. I think the pundits for many weeks or not months here in Yolo County have been saying with two Yolo County, well, really three, including Charlie, Yolo County candidates that divides the vote and so you had less competition from your home territory and so I think that the race is shaping up the way we would expect it. It's just who will be in that number two spot and be your competition for November. Right, I think you're so right. It was very fortunate to have four guys, it's actually four because I just recall even though he wasn't really present during this race, there's four guys from Yolo County and so I was very fortunate to have that. And I think you're right, it's gonna be either Dan Walker or Charlie Shout in that second place, Yolo position and that's kind of what it really looks like here at my campaign headquarters right now. Right, right, right. And so it will be interesting to see how that goes as the votes come in. Traditionally in Yolo County and countywide races, we say, and of course I am sitting in Davis is saying this, but we traditionally say that as Davis goes, so goes the county. And really until recently that has been the case because there's more registered voters in Davis and more reliable voters than anywhere else in the county. So I don't know that that's still the case. We've had, West Sacramento has had quite a bit of growth and Woodland has had quite a bit of growth but I think that it will be interesting to see how, when the Davis votes come in, if that changes, who's in the number two spot district wide heading into November, so. Yeah, I agree, I think that's gonna be anybody's guess at this point. It looks like Shout does have a pretty good lead at this point though. Right, right. And I know there's quite a few people who are trying to familiarize themselves with Charlie. I've known him for a number of years and he's lived in Esparto for quite some time. But he's an unknown quantity for a lot of folks in this part of Yolo County. So we look forward to getting to know you better. We hope that you will avail yourself of the opportunities to reach out to people here through Davis Media Access and hope that you'll come in and visit with us sometime and we will watch the results as they continue tonight and let you get back to your party and wish you the best of luck. Well, listen, thank you very much and I will take you up on that invitation. This is gonna be job number one, it's for me to get to particularly if I wed against Charlie Shout, is to get to Yolo County and make the presence and really do a good job there. And frankly, I hope to do a good job for Yolo County, particularly Davis and Sloan Sloan and Mariko Yamada has done for Napa County as our representative and I hope that I can get to know more voters in that area. Well, we have a great farmers market and you will find that- I've heard about that. You will find that you need to have a team there every Saturday and I think they set up about 6 a.m. Okay, well I look forward to seeing you. Yeah, all right. Okay, we'll look forward to meeting you at the farmers market. Take care. Thanks so much for calling, I appreciate it. Take care, thank you. All right. We are fortunate to be joined tonight in the studio with yet another city council candidate and the man who is the leader and has been the leader all evening, of course 5.9% of the votes are in. So, you know, yeah, don't be ordering your stationary just yet. But as I said in the beginning and people who know me, I speak my mind. I'm not surprised that you were the leader. You've run an incredible campaign. I don't know if you heard Bob Dunning when he was here, but he talked about that he thought you had the biggest, you know, stretch to make up that you were running against people whose name was known in the community and you did that. You did that with a lot of hard work and obviously a lot of dedicated volunteers. No one does this alone. Absolutely, yeah. You'd have to be Superman to be in that many places all at the same time. But your lawn signs, your mailers, you're just across the board. You've had a campaign that was on a straight trajectory and obviously a good group of people. So, who would you like to thank and what? Well, yeah, many people, I mean, you really hit it. It was a great team. It was a great team of people and I'm really proud of them and I'm proud to be able to be part of them. I have to start with my wife who, you know, she laid down the ground rules at the beginning about how this was gonna be in terms of what I could and couldn't bring home and she enforced that but kept the space that we had non-anxious, supportive and I love her. We've been married 33 years nearly. Congratulations. Yeah, thanks. And her support and just her commitment to helping, she did a lot of the stuff that any other team member would do, you know. I think that's what's cool about a local election like there's everybody, the friends and everybody gets involved. My team, my core team, Dick Livingston was my, you know, was the chair, Mount Hubbard, the treasurer. Claire Goldstein did all of the walk sheets and we walked every precinct in the city. We did 15 precincts twice. Oh my gosh. And she organized it all along with help from Robert Canning who originally helped put the list together. Matt Williams helped put the list together. Carolyn Hinshaw was a core team member who just walked constantly, was at the market every Saturday. We started marketing, we started at the market February 15th. We have done every week since February 15th. We have walked precincts every three or four times a week since the beginning of April and the end of March really. So Carolyn's been involved in that. Michelle Malay put out all the lawn signs, delivered them, has been at the market every week, taken it up, put it down. And a lot of lawn signs. A lot of lawn signs, about 450 people hosted signs for us. And those are not on neutral corners, those are in people's yards. And those are friends and people we've met. That's important. I mean, you've worked hard. I didn't even know who you were. And here you are, the front runners. Yeah, I think what it is is we had that core team and I know I miss someone and I don't wanna miss anybody. It'll come back to me later. But then what it was was friends and colleagues who just, I was, we had 36 hosted events in people's homes. It was about 12 to 15 people in each. That's individual people who open up their homes, invite their friends, invite their neighbors. Those were amazing events. We had all, I counted today, we had more than 60 people walk precincts, different people. We had more than 20 people work the table at the market. I mean, it was a broad community effort. It was a broad, and then in addition, those who put out signs in their yards, those who attended coffees. So, we set out to do a very grassroots thing and I think we accomplished that. And frankly, Brett Lee, who was also a member of the core team, and Dick said, this is the way we're gonna do it. Ken Wagstaff, who read all of my, everything that I wrote, three of them got together and said, this is the way we're gonna do it. We're gonna meet people in their homes. We're gonna meet people at the market, meet people at the coffees. We're gonna get the word out through just knocking on doors. And that's what we did. And I'm really, that's why I'm proud of them because we just put into place a plan. We worked that plan and the results are not in our hands but what we did do, I think we did effectively again, just a lot of non-anxiousness, a lot of just good, solid work, looking at each other in the eye and saying we're gonna do this. Yeah, yeah. And now you totally understand O and P. Yeah, well, I do. I mean, I understand. As much as anyone can. Yeah, no, I do. I mean, we've talked, I mean, we've talked, all of us, all of the candidates, and I think we've been very focused in an appropriate way on the fiscal challenges of the city. And though, measure O, I think others have probably said, I think it can only be seen as a temporary fix. I mean, the structural issues, getting total compensation in the line, figuring out how we can expand our revenue base. Those are the challenges of the, that are ongoing for this next council. I mean, we have many opportunities. So I think, I've supported O because I think it provides us with some breathing room to put into place. But we gotta move quickly to move into, especially the revenue expansion pieces, which is our downtown, which is maybe the innovation parks. Capitalizing on all that wonderful innovation that comes off of UCD and not letting it slip away. Well, and that's it. And I, you know, you guys probably know these things better than I do. I mean, I really want us to have a grown-up relationship with the university and really talk about our mutual needs, the positive and negative externalities that exist because we rub up against each other, but we're two very different entities. We're a representative democracy in every sense of the word and a fully engaged population. That is not an efficient way of making decisions, but so what? That's what we want. Well, the university isn't that. They're part of a federation. They answer to different stakeholders, but our futures are bound up. We need what flows from that university in terms of innovations, and they need us. They need a good community to welcome students and faculty and the leadership. Our futures bound up, and it's also bound up with our farmland around our edges because without that resource, this university wouldn't be here. And the innovations that are flowing are largely linked to that, feeding the world. So it's this amazing thing that we just need to figure out constantly ways to capitalize and build that relationship at all levels. It's a ladder of relationships from getting students in to do research on city issues to the really macro level, how are we gonna work on Nishi property together and those types of things. And the opportunities are there. I hope I can help provide, if I'm elected, some of the leadership that would help continue to move that relationship in a good direction. Well, I think you totally understand the full picture. So. It's a big picture. It's a complex picture. But you seem to have it in your mind how to work it. So I hope it's all good news. This is the lady who's seen a lot of candidates. This is the lady who's seen a lot of candidates. She remembers when Jerry Adler was young. Yeah. Well, I think all of us are in this really amazing learning experience. And that's what I really love about campaigning is that it's not just, we talked about the work out in the field. But the resources that we have in this town to draw on for learning, if I wanna know something about water, if I wanna know something about issues related to, I know, POU, there are people in this town who are not just local experts. They're state, national, dare I say, even world experts on those issues. Right here. So our learning, it's like having an opportunity to take a free graduate level course when you sit down and talk to folks. No, it is. And it's just over and over. And so, though it's complex, we have an opportunity to engage in a tremendous amount of ongoing learning, which I've been so energized by. Oh, I have. It's been just amazing. Obviously, I mean, here it is almost 11 o'clock. And I know you've been working like crazy. You've probably been up since early this morning. Copy. You're bouncing off the couch practically. This is amazing. This is a good sign because council meetings can sometimes go late. That's what I understand. I think I've been doing a few. It's better than it was. It's better than it was. And much more collegial than it's been in a number of years. And I see that continuing in the future, no matter who ends up in the top two positions once the votes are finally counted. It will. You know what? What council is, is people bringing their gifts to the table to collectively solve problems. And as we honor each other's gifts on that council, we'll work together. Doesn't mean we won't have conflicts. We should welcome conflict at a certain level. But we'll work together to move initiatives forward. I have full confidence in that. Yeah, no, I think, and this is a town that does, in a sense, welcome conflict. We should. And we should. We should. We need to do with it productively. Right, but difficult decisions require hearing more than just one side and not rubber stamping. And we don't do that. And I don't see us doing that in the future. And, but it does look like as, but it's really early results. Yeah, we're not gonna say anything. No. What our team is thankful for is that we achieved what we set out to do. And we're proud of what, we're proud of that. The results, the people that are voting, they have a lot of reasons for voting the way they vote. And if they elect me, I'll gladly serve. If they don't, then I'm gonna go back to the community and work on the things I'm working on. Restore of justice, I'm gonna keep working with issues related to homelessness and addiction. I'm gonna keep teaching kids how to bike safely. My dad, I don't know, I know you guys probably need to move on, but I wanna, my dad passed over Memorial Day weekend. And I wanted to honor his memory tonight. And what my dad taught me, among many things, and we didn't agree politically, was faithfulness, faithfulness to the task, and integrity in doing a task. He's gone now, but he taught me that most days of my life. And I saw the faithfulness to my mom. I saw the faithfulness to all the things he was involved in. And what that meant was, there were times when he was called on to play a leadership role in a very high profile way, but most of the leadership he provided was in the small things. And if I'm given the opportunity to provide leadership in that Davis-wise, high profile way, I'll accept it. If not, there are a lot of places in this community to operate, live, work, serve, and I'll continue to value that just as much as I have in the past. But we won't see the end of you, so it's wonderful. I live here. This is my town. This is my home. This is our home, right? Yeah, that's wonderful. That's what a wonderful sentiment because so many times people run for office for the first time. Lamar Haystack is one that I bring up time and time again with people. He ran a very dedicated young man, very focused, and he didn't make it the first time. And he didn't let that stop him. He worked hard. You talk about walking precincts. He was walking precincts in January. He's an amazing guy. Daniel Perrella's done the same thing. I mean, you gotta give a big hand to Daniel because every time I was out walking, it seemed like I run into him. And he was out there week after. I know you were out shoes. And he's following Lamar's footsteps. We need that type of dedication. We need to see it. We need to be part of it. We want to be part of it. We want to be part of that commitment process. And I'm excited to see people stepping up like that. I want to make it clear. If I don't win this time, I'm gonna stay in the community. I'm not gonna come back and do this again. So you won't proceed in me in four years. But you never know. You never say no to that. And it's actually true. I made a commitment to my wife in two years. Two years, four years, six years, eight years, 10 years, doesn't matter. I personally would encourage you to do it. And she knows. She's had to be the wife of a mayor. More than one. I know. If my wife were in here, she'd say, no, we made this commitment. There's just other stuff to do in this town. And a lot of it is just gonna require a long walk in the same direction. And I want to participate in that. But one thing I would like you to encourage is for UCD students or anybody to have a bike light at night. Don't worry. We've been handing them out. We've been handing them out. On the way home tonight, if we happen to drive by you and a crazy lady yells out the window, get a light, get a light. By the way, I have my light. I'm on my bike tonight. I have my light. I have a very good high-power light. We're working on this. Our new bike plant enshrines that as a top commitment. I yell out the window. I literally yell out the window. That's okay. Bike light. Do it. Keep doing it. Keep doing it. It drives me crazy. We're gonna get there. It's very dangerous. It is. It's our biggest complaint in the bike advisory commission. Totally. Yeah. Well, because it's so hard to see at night. Yeah. And a horrible accident could happen when it doesn't mean... What I've learned is it's really scary for automobile drivers. Yeah. And it's... Anyway. Yeah. Good. Well, it's... It's a pleasure meeting you. It is. You too. Wonderful. Thank you so much for having me nearby. Wonderful to you. And we look forward. For doing this. I remember following us two years ago. I really enjoyed the whole evening. This year, I didn't get to it because it was noisy everywhere. But I'll try to look at the tape and... That's right. Oh, please. Thanks for coming out and doing this. Well, we have fun doing it. At some point, they'll probably find replacements for us, but until then, we have fun. We have fun. And we're looking forward to getting to know you better. Thanks a lot. So keep up the good work and we'll watch the returns. And we will go to some returns. They're gonna show us something here and it's still the same 5.9. And it still has you there at almost 41% of the returns as they are. And not a lot has changed. That will change over the evening and in the course of the next couple of days. But let's see measure O is passing with a more comfortable margin than it was with just the absentees. And I think we will continue to watch those results. It's also really just 6% of the votes in at this point. And so a measure P is also passing. I don't remember if that's tightened up, but it's also still just 6% of the votes in. So still a lot of votes to be counted. Oscar Villegas from West Sacramento is still in the lead for County Supervisor District One, Mike McGowan, has been the District One Supervisor for 122 years. Okay, not really. But a long time. A long time. He retired and Oscar was appointed to his seat and he's now running for that. And just early returns on that as well looks like about 7% of the vote in. West Sacramento has a long way to drive their ballots just like Davis does. Maybe even a little further. He's got a lot of name recognition. But he's been there for a long time and on the council for a long time. Looks like, is that right? 50% of the votes are in for judicial. And it looks like Commissioner Boronio is on her way to being Judge Boronio. She has 52.9%. I believe that's an increased percentage wise. She's pulling away from the field slightly. If I'm reading that correctly, and that is over half of the votes in. So Yolo County returns only, but of course that's everybody that's running. And my goodness. Well, so let's see. Freddie Oakley is still in the lead. 50% of the votes counted in that race. And she's leading basically two to one against her opponent. And I guess soon to be employee that will be an interesting relationship. And it looks like Jesse Ortiz. 50% on that one is counted. It looks like Jesse Ortiz is pulling away slightly from Sam Neustad, not dramatically, 52 to 48. I think we were a little bit closer earlier in the evening. But I apologize if I'd scrambled any of that. I've been talking live since 8 p.m. And completely unscrupulous. And I have a surprise for Autumn. Oh yes, we would like. I need the package that I brought. And I also need Autumn to come in to receive something. While we're doing that, if I could just once again, if I could just once again thank our crew that starts with Diane Dodoschka, you'll probably never see her on camera. Someday maybe I'll get her to come in here. But she's an incredible woman and brings a plethora of knowledge and information about real TV studios and commercial TV operations. And we're lucky to have her. Floor manager is Dan Choi and he's been absolutely amazing. He may try to strangle us with some cord later this evening, but hopefully I can outrun him. Oh, who am I kidding? I can't outrun him. The cameras have been operated by Bryce Parker, Bill Lurfring and Cliff Gamble. Bill came back in. I see he got refreshed and rejuvenated and was able to stay with us all evening. The audio board and phones has been handled by Tyler, Una, Cho, recent addition here at Davis Media Access has been great at mic'ing all of our guests, including our executive director who is reluctantly back in the studio. Wondering what we're doing. I'm not done with my thank yous yet. Derek Service, Alex Silvassater and Jeff Shaw. Everything here takes a team effort and they're almost always a part of that team. And of course, Autumn LeBearano is our producer. And none of this would happen without her scheduling the multitude of guests and calls and what number are you gonna be at? Well, because I'm here and I'm, you know, once again for the second time, I'm never here on election night. I get to thank Andrea Jones and Leah Rosenberg for doing a great job with our show tonight. It's not an easy thing to talk for three hours. It's even more difficult to talk knowledgeably about politics and to make people feel at ease and you both do a great job. And I think this is their fourth outing as Andrea likes to call them pen and teller. Yeah, although whichever one's not supposed to talk started learning how to talk and it's great. You did a great job. So I'm curious and a little scared. Okay, well, you know, if some of you know, I save things and I know Andrea saves things. And I happened to have found an interesting article amongst my papers. Oh dear. And this is when Autumn took over the helm of DC TV in June of 2006. Wow. So we made a little... And the cast of characters is the same. The equipment has changed, but Jeff and Derek are pictured in this Davis Enterprise article with Autumn. Yeah, can you get a... And if you can get a closeup of it, they were younger and but it's the same team. The trio that has led this organization for a number of years and we're lucky to be celebrating the 25th year and thriving in our 25th year here at Davis Media Access. And with Autumn being with us since 2006. Well, she was here long before that. I've actually been here longer. In 2006 I was asked to step up as interim director and have been the director since 2007 when we changed our name to Davis Media Access and have really gone from a single channel to a media center. So it's been just my honor to lead that charge for a number of years now. And thank you for this. It was very sweet. It's a recycled frame as you can see. That's okay. There's an inscription on the back. For those of you out there who know Leah, she does collect things and there's an inscription on the back and as we were driving over, I said, well, what does that say? And it says something to Julie because the original frame was to someone. Anyway, but you know Leah, she's always got surprises. I think we've gone over the results as they stand now. I know that we will be keeping the results up and on our rotating board overnight. Overnight on channel 15. And so we, I had the experience of live tweeting tonight show all night long. Our Twitter feed is at DMA feed and hashtag Davis elections 2014. And so you can go there and find that. I'll do some more posting tomorrow to put the wrap on it. I can see we're getting the wrap it up signal. Yes. Oh, I've been getting that all night. Poor Dan. I've ignored him more than I ignore my husband. But the tweeting has gone well because you have a lot of new followers. This iPad gets a message every time you get a new follower. There you go. So if you've heard dings throughout the evening, it's a new follower for Davis Media Access and we love that. So we love that almost as much as we love a new donor. So there's still time to get your donation in to support all the wonderful work that goes on here, a local election coverage that wouldn't happen without community support and dedication of folks like Autumn and Derek and Jeff that have been around and involved for so long. And well, Cliff, Cliff was practically here with the building too. Daniel's gonna give you the hook in about a minute. I see that. Well, I'm worried. Shall we say thank you and good night? Yes, I know there's lots of parties going on out there. There's a little flurry of activity going on in here and I hope that that doesn't have anything to do with us. And for all of you at your parties, enjoy things, drive safe home and watch the results as they come in over the evening and over the next few days. And for those of you that have worked on campaigns, thank you for your dedicated. And faithful to the candidates too. That's right. It takes a lot to put your name on the ballot. It really does. And hats off to all those folks. We're lucky in Davis to have as many dedicated people as we do. Thanks for tuning in. And we'll see you the next time we have one of these crazy local elections. Good night from Davis Media Access. Good night.