 Perfect answer. And the other question is, you may have a question about that, but because I have a pet, and I want to know, and do I have a pet like a parallel universal letter to R? Everything you see in the whole department, including the pets, are in the reflection of mine. And so they're perfectly capable of being used by the spirit in a symbolic way. For example, I have a school house, and I have a three-legged cat, and I'm very happy to be sitting there and playing with a three-legged cat all day. I have a pet, and I have a child, so I can do the things I want to do. I have a pet, and I have a child, so I can do the things I want to do. I have a range of experiences of the way people interact with their pets, and it was always like the question of where to find them. Sometimes if they were very good at controlling their parents, and the children had not learned much from them, they were very good at controlling them. And sometimes it went the other way where they didn't seem to have any kind of control. I went to one house when I was very young and brought up, and this man was a police officer, and he's the day that we showed him. And he had a stolen monster out of the government. He didn't come in from the man with the standard attention, and the dogs didn't have any attention to the mood. And then we had a head of water, and we went and got a biscuit, and we took it out and put it on the dog's nose. And he had a dog's standard attention with his biscuit, a boy that I don't know, an evil. A dog, and help me. He's all about it. It's still much more difficult waiting for him to come in. I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't know. It's like the wireless remote. And then I go to the house, and I look at the door, and I go up and up, and the dog is dying on me. I'm not having enough experience. I'm not doing it. I'm trying to go out and go out. So the whole point of it is that everything you want is just a reflection of your mind, and you may seem to be able to control that or train it. But in the end, the third part of it, I'm not doing a video. And you start with this, like living with those, you start to learn to trust and not judge. And to realize that really you can't train or control anything in the form you can train your mind to line up with resource. And that's what the peace and happiness enjoy for me. But the best thing I find is that I just enjoy the literature of all the love and joy. Pretty amazing, but I'll have to be at all the peace house to receive it. The three-legged hand and the four-legged hand. Laying them back to the pause of the air, just in this state of surrender of the lips. Doing clouds of welcome and everything. So that's just the night of the question of my mind that they feel so comfortable and trusting that they play around. They play around with their pause of the air. Defensive, if you are, if we're not, are you defensive about anything? No, I'm not anything defensive about it. I'm just really just... I'm not asking, but if you're going to get into this peace and discipline and everything and it's only if I identify with concepts and with illusions that identify the essentials. So this aligning force that's in the wind, remember you're feeling the need to become defensive about anything. You have identified with an illusion, you've identified yourself with an illusion. So obviously if you get identified with a body, it would seem to be a lot of science to be defensive about or a country, or a maze, or a animal or anything, that you can really go out and see the solution to your identities. I didn't have a particular thing for a person, or object, or adventure, whatever, the network of attachment. And then the symptoms come up immediately because it's this feeling that something could be present, something that could be destroyed or lost. The spirit is a body. We are a spirit, perfectly defenseless because there's nothing to it that. So again, I'm just using the example of Jesus, you know. They seem to bring false witnesses, pay false witnesses, and they always try to look like it. Even Simon, I mean, he has nothing to defend, nothing to promote. His teachings and all the seeming healings are from around him. Whatever a testimony to the body spirit and what it would mean to defend everything. But I never learned anything about that. I mean, he never really invested in this reality. So now, why would you defend something you invested in? Well, he didn't struggle to school, high school, he didn't struggle to college, he didn't play the corporate game. He didn't fight the game. Why did he do that? He didn't have to fight the game. Jesus died young, with the same power, and he didn't deserve anybody else. And he wouldn't be very useful for people if he just was born perfect. How do you relate to something like that? I don't know. I mean, people like, oh, great, you know, you're the one who's going to break things. We got a nine-month assessment, and, you know, yeah, great. If I were born national too, I might just, I might just give you a name, right? Well, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know about that thing. So we need you, like, to render work, for example, if you see that he went through team engineering with the same temptations. Mary wanted to get involved in politics. With the silent party, you know, getting comments out of Jerusalem and Israel, and so forth, back then, in Galilee. He had the same temptations in terms of male leadership. There was a woman who wanted to marry him, and he had this feeling inside of him. He had this definitely that he was to demonstrate. But he didn't even know what it was. He just kept having faith. He was talking about that a bunch. He was saying he had this feeling of his purpose of his destiny as coming. As soon as your children were raised, you might be out loud, galloping all around, sharing your life. Yeah, that's the important thing to remember is that as a learning model, he's essentially the same power of temptations that everyone has. And he was simply an example of, like, hey, good news. He didn't do it the other way around. Well, I think you did, too. And not only can you, but inevitably will do. So don't worry about not making it home, because that was a good news. The Kingdom of Heaven is with them, and it's very, very important. The Bible says that God created the heavens and the earth and us. And the Course used to say that God did not create us. So what's the point? Yeah, the Bible, when you talk about creating heavens and earth, that is where Jesus comes in, and of course it just says, the God is the Spirit. And what comes from the Spirit is the light of the Spirit. Just like in Israel, you get God who's not the Creator. You're more just on more streets and so on and so forth. Then in defining hell, it gets rid of the Spirit. That if God doesn't create the current state, because that's eternally, there isn't a current state, it's forever. It's infinite. It's chainless. But there's nothing in this Congress that's infinite, chainless, because it's, you know, the point of this is just saying, you know, there's a big bang somehow, you know, the Kingdom of Heaven. You know, there's not going to be any evidence for it out there. It's the belief in separation from God. And the endearment of the cosmos is expanding at some point where we reach an equilibrium and start to grow on itself. All of that is filled with all emotion, time and space, and all those implements of measurement. So, what James is saying in the quote, and this is even the Bible, there's a passage, I believe it's in Corinthians. It talks about, you know, that which is of God, of the eternal world, the West forever, and that which is temperate. It talks about the temporal versus the everlasting. This is an unique point, because if God created the heavens and the earth, and God created the earth, then forgiveness would be impossible. You cannot forget something God created. It's beyond a moment to give you something you've got created, because God created this earth, and you're not going to be able to dismiss or release something that God created. But just because the ego ejected out of the cosmos out of the mind and space, it isn't forgettable, it is believable. This is where the teaching of the chorus of the enemy from, you might say, traditional teachings are forgiven us. Traditional teachings are forgiven us with, say, you didn't do charity, like, I've got my own friends, I've got my own religion, I've got my own community, I don't go out now making decisions, do it, I've got to do the action, I've got to do others. But I look kind as my heart, because I'm precious for personal, and I'm so willing, I'm going to follow you, and what the chorus is saying, that I'm not forgiving, that's saying that we're going to be there, and we're going to share the pain, and now we're going to focus, focus, and pretend you're as white as snow. What the chorus is saying is that when you have the freedom to give anybody, it's your own perception that you're still going to come and do evil thoughts about yourself, about your brother and sister, and you will continue to receive this situation. And so, when you do evil, you're really letting yourself go, you're letting go of your own perception, you're not just doing a kind of deed for somebody else, kind of letting them, but this terrible thing they did, you're not just saying, what I've received. So these ideas are really important in the sense that they're really coming to a true experience of forgiveness, because forgiveness is all that you need to do stuff. You're always just letting go of your own misperception and learning a truly real way to look at the part of the world that doesn't hold on for periods anymore. Do you agree with this? Of course I agree with you. Can you give me a point where you realize that you are capable of taking sides or are capable of understanding somebody that's going to be the wrong number, and it's pretty obvious that you won't be able to consider it. And actually, if you are called to turn to you, you have to get interviewed. And that interview is a great opportunity to provide a witness and testimony to where you're mind is at. You know, if you're at a point where you cannot judge a brother or sister and pronounce them guilty, you have to say out of the interview, and you are not going to be picked. You know, I'm curious what you think about this interview. We're just looking about that. I was just going to say thank you for having me on the phone to have that opportunity this week. And I couldn't figure out I was concerned about this. I was really concerned about having to sit on this journey when they made that judgment. I'm fortunate that I didn't have to do that. Thank you for answering that. I know that this world is an illusion, but it's impossible to find joy and material things without them being attached, such as, you know, the fact that you can see the great force of God and sense that he'll have to enjoy and it'll be perfectly fine. Or, I don't know, or much snowfalling or whatever. That's part of it. Looking at the view of that, part of the great force of God will be possible to find happiness in that. That's a good question. Back in the 1990s, people went all around walking around like a flock of little students or an angel or whatever. And they, one time, had a window and the snow was falling. It looked like one of those curative ice aches. Snow on everything and everything. You know, we were out in the park and the students, she was like, oh, it's so beautiful. And then she had this bit of shame on her face. Like, she had done something wrong. She kind of looked at me but it was a bit of a shame. And I looked at her, and I just smiled and said, who is this beautiful? The beauty I'm talking about comes from non-journey. It's like, there's a word for that and of course all times being exactly the way they are. Ah, so sweet. And what that means is when you, about your mind ripped into this beautiful, magical state of non-journey, that, from that perspective, you might say, with the Holy Spirit, elevate things beautifully like a ray of even sun. Everything beautiful. Now that very river from judging something specifically, that is beautiful. People have had a feeling that the sun that, you know, isn't okay with you. So I thought in the sunset, I said, yeah, and I'm enjoying people that think you're right in the, you know, in general or out of the town in part of the human and they don't have any pollution controls on all vehicles. The city, the city of, I don't know, how many millions of people were in the city in the north of the city, the car, the bus, the truck, and smoke flying everywhere. And I was, did 19 consecutive course of mental gatherings in the city. So I had a camera, I had opened an hour or more to each play of that area. And I'm living with so, as we're sitting in the traffic, all I want is a big bus and buying all this glass of soot with that same blow in the camera. A- evening. have fun tonight during this fun. And I think you've got to be excited about it and to be really enjoying the world and have assumed you with somebody that you'm playing of something beautiful that sounds kind of forgiving or this room's beautiful in somemongere or way there and little little little EDV if you can look at it And Marilyn learned that from a picture of another lady that lived with her father who had done a bit of miracles and seen the beauty in all of us without making any distinctions, and that's truly what this course is about and that's truly what they think about the see the beauty in everything. So I'm going to play with my friend of mine who made a lot of beautiful CDs her beautiful CDs, but she used to make each of the boxes and one of the things she made was she made this yardstick and she called it the yardstick from hell and on the one side she said, it quote that serving all your innocent means since the first time Holy Ghost came and how much of that? So listen, I get it on a scale you know and the true yardstick and then on it it gets all the ornaments from you know, beautiful, wonderful and spectacularly living on one to in the middle of it, like such a valuable time and then at the other end of it, other way to meet the other end of it, you know, all the men and the entire yardstick, it feels like a thing and what she started to realize is that the judge about beautiful and spectacularly living are not as much the judge than his terrible other and that our education system is a reflection of this belief that somehow to praise and compliment is wonderful to help build children's esteem and build self esteem and that those who lose are very vulnerable to rich people's self esteem now but that self, this entire esteem is legal and so in the end you have to realize that compliment and criticism are two stars in one eye, the one not deep enough and the other one seems to tear it down but you want to reach a state of acceptance which is really not a good idea of all that and really realizing that your value comes from within you from the way God created you not whether you're criticism or complimenting but it doesn't bring an end to this idea of self improvement and you can realize that what you want right now is perfect and you don't have to improve on yourself you can just need to forgive the illusion of what you probably were and accept the perfection of the way God created you so it's not a problem for you to think you don't have to worry about it you know, God doesn't see bad as getting your collar shorter you know, if you think you have bad as God doesn't use the spirit of perfection that you are right now, you're perfect just the way you are right now beautiful okay