 Welcome once again to the breakfast here on Plus TV Africa. Now let's go to the papers this morning and quickly share with you the major stories that we can find. I'm going to be starting with the punch newspapers, which should bring your screen in just a few seconds. And of course, we will be introducing our analysts this morning. There you have it. It says Delta variant, experts won as Federal Government Begins camping for 49,950 core members. Only COVID-19 negative graduates will be admitted into camps, says the NYSC. NMA seeks adherence to protocols, says COVID-19 now on albatross. It's scary coronavirus protocols mustn't be violated. Council of virologists. All right, also on the Pontius morning. Bandits reduce ransom for Baptist school students, demand 60 million Naira. Stop manhunt for Igboho. Release loyalist, OPC tells Buhari. And also UK should pressure Nigeria on Cano's access to consular intervention, a lawyer is saying. People in power riding on electoral reform, frustrating further review. And that is from Ikea Aquarium model. And the Euroband Nation Rally, autopsy false police claim, says sales girl was shot. We can also see on the Pontius morning, Amcon recovers 1.4 trillion Naira, says 350 chronic debtors or 2 trillion Naira. Buhari directs creation of farm estates in 109 senatorial districts. The president, governors and others seek prayers as Muslims mark Salah. And a rescued Nigerian Air Force pilot returns to Raozen welcome after bandits attack on jet. There was a news report yesterday of another Nigerian Air Force jet that was shot down. And of course, videos he made later of the pilot who was able to successfully eject himself from the plane and find himself a safety. We can also see Oshun leads as INEC records 752,011 registration applications and oil plunges to $68, Nigeria's six increased production quarter. Those are the big ones on the punch newspapers this morning. And on the Guardian newspaper, Idel Kaby, Buhari decries rising cost of rams food items, says government addressing hardship, the applause acts not consistent with Islam. Governors to Nubu, Attiku, Sareki, others charge Nigerians on unity and tolerance. PDP six prayers to save Nigeria from insecurity, biting economic hardship. Aviation stakeholders urge military to regeek strategy as bandits shoot down attack jets in Zanfara. Pilot survives evades bandits hideout on the cover of darkness, says military. Time for military intelligence to reassess enemy power, says Oji Kutu. Herders Q2 aid workers six in Benrey also on the Guardian newspaper, Iwo Folt, Navdax, says COVID-19 herbal cure had undergone clinical trial. TUC tells Buhari come up with walkable economic plan to lift Nigerians. Why entire country should be on red alert for COVID-19 third wave? And lastly on the Guardian newspaper, SEC undil reach truth to protect shareholders. And on the daily sun this morning, Sala, prices of ram and food rises. Also federal government urged to reinstate Attala oil field to biosefirm JV partners. Buhari blames COVID-19 middlemen flawed for hike, and that's with regards to the price of food items. Tsongwu Lu, Kalu Attiku, Tsaraki, author as Tinubu Others, felicitate with Muslims, as Governor Gwai distributes gifts to Muslims that's in Inugu state. UK request consular access to Namedi Kanu, IPOB's lawyer, accuses DSS of blocking the UK's intervention. Also, it's not over, it's not yet over for e-transmission of results, says Ekwer Ahmadu, and court freeze 48 Euruba nation agitators. There's also pictures of the Nigerian Air Force pilot who, like I said earlier, ejected himself from the aircraft that was shot down reportedly by bandits, and found his way to safety. That's also on the daily sun this morning. Good morning Mr Chris Wando, thanks for joining us. Same to you. All right, there's very interesting stories. I'm not sure which you would like to start from. Well, let me start with the front page of punch, with the statement created to OBC that government should stop going after people of Tsongwu and face other realities and challenges still not. But let me tell you this morning that court coming in as that 20 people have been arrested in Koto Nu, our neighboring country, while he was on his way out to Germany. That report, as we said, broke last night, and most of the newspapers must have gone to bed not to have captured it. It's already some of them have already captured it online. If that is true, then that means that he is treated to murder by today to face charges. We have seen people believe that our problem is not on the go. Our problem in the range of security challenges that is facing us. And just a few days ago, two days ago, we saw what happened in Zafara where we should stop bandit. Bandit don't shoot down place. Terrorists do. So the earlier we changed our idea in putting some kind of perfume on the activities and the growth of these guys better. These guys are terrorists. Anybody that can shoot down a flying object like a plane and a jet, it's not a bandit. It's a terrorist. Most sophisticated terrorism wants nothing more than the capability to do that. So those are the issues that we have to prove to them where it is. And now it has, this is almost the second time we're having this shutdown. Not as a particular fighter jet that was shot down by this terrorist, Antiquity. We have not been able to do the efforts of the military. We have not been able to say anything. We just kept quiet about that. And you remember that the terrorists came out with a video of that shutdown jet. If you remember, we had the team that did it. The military soldiers, they knew that we had people in and that they were not best. They were quietly kept quiet since then. So what happened on our hand is a serious security challenge that needs to be nipped in the boat. We are running into a serious problem. We have very limited number of fighter aircrafts. And the little we have and shot down on the things is, and that should be a source of concern. And congratulations to the flight Lieutenant Adairo who was able to make it safely. He was lucky. So more than once, he did it. And that's good news for us. Okay. Still on security matters. There's a story here on the front page of the punch newspaper that says that the bandits have reduced the ransom for Baptist school students and are now demanding 60 million Naira. In addition to, you know, other security stories we've seen here, how do you react to this? I get a lot of related circumstances. What will you do next? Don't forget what happened to the student of the university in Kaduna that we are also kidnapped by bandits. And it took several days. I think they swap with some of us too in the bush. So we may need to reconnect with you. We'll take a hope that we can quickly reconnect with him and get him to share thoughts on some of these things. There are very, very big stories across the papers this morning. If you joined us while we shared, there's also something on the UK involvement with Namdi Kano's case and, you know, asking for consular access to Namdi Kano. That's also something that is in papers. It's on the Daily Son this morning. And Senator Ike Ikwere-Madu also, you know, chipping in with regards to the e-transmission of results. It's one of the things that we spoke about yesterday extensively with an IT expert. You know, so we hope that we can reconnect with him and he can get to share some of these thoughts. The price of food items, who is to blame? The president, according to the Daily Son, the president says that COVID-19, middlemen and flawed might be responsible for the hike in the price of food items and ramps in the market this solar period. And I want to also take a look at the Ponshines paper. The headline there really strikes me because we know that the Delta variant is in Nigeria and people are coming down with the COVID-19 virus. But we know that the federal government is about to begin a campaign for almost 50,000 core members, it's 49,950. And you begin to ask, really, what then is the sense of urgency? What are the plans that the federal government are putting in place to ensure that Nigerians are safe and that our youth are not put in harm's way? Because if we know that the COVID-19 pandemic is still very much deadly, we've not defeated that yet and there's a new Delta variant that is worse than the Alpha variant. Let me ask questions, this is the right time for about 50,000 Nigerians to be gathering in one place. Even though we know that the NYC is saying that only COVID-19 negative graduates to be admitted into camps, how do you ensure that would everybody be required to go take tests? We know it costs at least 50,000 Naira. Will all these graduates be able to afford 50,000 Naira to take COVID-19 tests? Would this mean that people will not be able to serve because they can't afford the tests? So just questions we need to ask regarding what the government would be doing to ensure that Nigerian youth are safe as they go to camps? I think it's the government's responsibility to test them. I don't expect that they will be asked to pay for these tests. It should be the government's responsibility to ensure that every one of them is tested before they prove to go into camp. I think it's also important that we know the figures with every single state in Nigeria. For a long time we've stopped hearing these figures daily or daily report from across Nigeria. The NCDC of course has continued to do its work and put out its daily reportage concerning the COVID-19 in Nigeria. They let you know that the FCT has this number and of course a couple of other states that have also recorded positive cases. So I think that's also very important so we can tell which states might have a red flag above them, which states would be looked at closely before coppers are sent to them. Welcome back, Mr. Wando. I can hear you but I'm just drinking. We're basically talking about the COVID-19 Delta variants in Nigeria and how almost 50,000 Nigerians are getting ready to camp for the NYC. So just raising questions about if going to camp and putting over 49,000 Nigerians or 49,000 Nigerians is appropriate if there are safety measures that have been put in place by the NYC by the government at this time? Well, I don't know the rationale behind that. Why we have to raise 50,000, life of 50,000 at this time. Don't forget that just last week the University of Lagos closed down totally and is hosted and asked us to go because of the rise in COVID-19 cases in the University that I hope that the federal government will have put all the necessary measures and also make sure that the coppers are tested and those are made sure that those are coming to camp are negative and that should be tested on a daily basis. It's not just testing them as in the case of testing. We have tested this, we have tested it now already and despite the fact that in Tokyo, we are doing much we're going to check that out. The cases of COVID-19 is really early heads and I give you a lot of challenges but I don't know, I hope that they have the capacity to make sure that this almost 50,000 which coppers are safe across Nigeria, don't forget that we have NYC counts in 30 states of population and also tested. All right, and quickly share your thoughts on the consular story concerning NAMDICANU. There's calls for the UK to step in once again also from a couple of lawyers. Well, Nigeria is a sovereign state. Yes, the British government they want to give some consular assistance to NAMDICANU being at the British passport but Nigeria is a sovereign country and has its laws and they should be able to deal with issues concerning its citizens as it were. NAMDICANU is in Nigeria and it's owned by Nigeria. But what most of us are saying is that whatever the case, it must be given a three and fair trial. It should be transparent enough for everybody to see. So I don't know the reason behind the DSS supposing that this thing from the British government experts as it were, the this thing, our law is clear on the issue of prosecution. Don't forget that NAMDICANU was undergoing some development of criminal prosecution before he, he decided to put an approach for certain reasons. Anyway, the army invaded his house and he has to run for his life the rest of them. It was arrested somewhere that is not too clear until now. But the government has come out to say that it's going to get the best of trial, a fair trial. And as even the Oganese Ndiku, the Panligu group has also said that they want to make sure that they monitor that. And the federal government has said that they are very free to monitor trial. So what we are just hoping for is that you have a fair trial based on Nigerian law and that intervention from the British government, I don't think it's about the British government and whatever they can do, but that's more by virtue and not anymore. Okay, when we look at the Pontchini's paper, we see a story above that says Amcon recovers 1.4 trillion Naira and says 350 chronic debtors, all 2.5 trillion Naira. And when we look at the assets management cooperation of Nigeria and Amcon, it seems really that they have very heavy duties, very important responsibilities on recovering debts. And would you say this is something that needs to be checked? Because 2.5 trillion Naira owed in an economy is ours. What do you say, Mr. Wando? Do you think our debt recovery mechanism is functional? Do you think there are adjustments that need to be made? Unfortunately, we lost Mr. Wando there. But really, when we have, we keep talking about loans and, you know, our infrastructure, we're getting loans in the country. And when we now talk about people owing these loans, and it just makes you ask questions, you know, regarding, oh, Mr. Wando, we have you back. Yes, I was asking apologies for the technical glitch. I was talking about the story on the Pontchini's paper that says Amcon recovers 1.4 trillion Naira in the country, and that about 350 other chronic debtors are owing 2.5 trillion Naira. And I'm asking you about your thoughts regarding Nigeria's debt recovery mechanism. What you think, you know, needs to be done to improve on that? There's not an opportunity. The problem we have in the country, especially in the financial sector, is more affinity on the part of debtors. Don't forget that so many banks in the past have gone down in Nigeria because of this debt. And also the mismanagement by his mismanagement by his management team. We have used to have various very, very big banks in the past where when you look at the debt portfolio, you come to realize that there was no way they could have stopped. And part of the problem is that if there's insiders, connivants, which most of these debtors, that is one, two, most of the banks don't do the needful. They don't do due diligence in giving out this loan. And it's necessary. So the issue of collateral, they don't get the necessary collateral before giving out loans. So at the end of it all, it's more of a man-no-man. Someone who just, if a poor man like me goes to the bank and says, give me 100,000 Naira as loan. They will not give me. But if a rich man goes and says, give me 200 million, 300 million, 1 billion, it quickly keeps him. We don't necessarily ask him for the necessary collateral. At the end of it, if you refuse to pay back, then it becomes a problem for them. And that is why we are having this kind of. So, and until we start prosecuting most of those debtors and making sure that they are sent to jail, irrespective of how big you are, then it should send a signal to them. But I see most of the banks because they are not invested in the risk sector of the economy. They are not agricultural, youth empowerment, and the rest of them. Those are key areas and SMEs, small and medium income sectors. They are not doing that. But if somebody will come in and come with a boss, this thing from them, and just if they have all sorts of loans, recovering it becomes a problem. So I was at a meeting addressed by the MZ of Capcom, about a year or two ago, where he told us, journalists, that they are going to publish names of most of the debtors. I know that they tried to do it at the point. I didn't know where they stopped because we need to shame some of these people because the money they have, it's not their money. It's the money of depositors. People like you and I, the literate salary we get, we go and drop in a bank and somebody just goes there and collects it and that becomes an issue. So I think the CBN and the financial regulations should do as much as possible to be able to tighten the notes on this game. Mr. Wando, still on this topic, will it be okay to also sympathize with these debtors and say that the Nigeria's economic outlook and the way that businesses have fed in the last few years, you can't really blame them for not being able to make back profit, to pay back their loans, maybe also because of the pandemic, inflation, tough business rules here and there, maybe have made it difficult for these people to pay back. Can that be something that we can also look at? My brother, business is about risk and risk-taking. That is what business is all about and that is what it takes. And also, don't forget that, that is also what is called debt risk-taking. We cannot say because we have economic debt. Nigeria is going to several countries. Don't you know that we borrow? We can't say because we have economic debt and we are not debtors. You pay. That is the risk you take. So if Nigeria is trying to pay is debt to foreign countries and that they borrow from. Definitely every individual should pay their debt. That is what, now, just last week or so, there was a report that came in that Nigeria is doing about 75% of a business going to service debt, 75% leaving just about 25% to 25% to about 30% for recurrent and capital expenditure. That is huge. So the same thing goes in the business. So there is a short-term and long-term plan when you are going for such because we say that the way trends are going in the next two years, three years, this might happen and the rest of them. So to me, it's not an excuse. Those debts can be risk-taking. But the fact is that some of them are trying to refuse to repay those loans. That is what I'm talking about. Some of them are trying to refuse to pay. And so we just go to court when the ban is coming and they will start there because they know that our court system, our judicial system will take years before they can get up. So they cannot drive in and drive in. That to me is not good enough. All right. Chris Wanda, thank you very much. And once again, happy Salah. We wish you a very beautiful Tuesday ahead. Thank you. I will come for my mix after. You have a nice day. Absolutely. All right. Stay with us. We'll take a short break. When we come back, what happened on this day, the 20th of July, many years ago, I'm going back to the year 2012 to talk about a mass shooting. I'm going to the year 1973. Stay with us.