 Hello everyone and welcome back to enter the ether of the podcast all about the upcoming third-person Ethereal clash of souls. I'm your host the man goose doubtfire Joining me as always is my friend and co-host jelly knees. How you doing jelly? How's your week been? I'm doing great man goose. You know, there was a drive-by fruiting earlier and you know, I just it caught me off guard I guess so but I'm doing great happy to be here happy to be back We took last week off, but you know, we're here and there were a ton of updates. So that's great Yeah, we took last week off because there wasn't a whole lot to talk about and then they just hit us with everything all at once Nice So To catch up on what happened last week all they really had was they had an update what they were talking about their structures their towers spires and elders which we already kind of knew about because they were in the The extra life demo like the elders were and I guess I think that was a tower that we were that we were fighting but um So that was a huge news about the only thing is it was confirmed in the Spanish speaking part of their discord that the spires will respawn which um You and I kind of disagreed on one whether that's a good thing or not Yeah, I mean I I think spires respawning is perfectly acceptable, but you were in the camp of less. So yeah I did a YouTube poll to find out how how everybody thought about that. I am definitely definitely in the minority for Not having them respond ever most people either think they should just naturally respawn or there should be some sort of conditions met before they respawn I Don't know. I'm it's I think it's because of more of a macro player Like I don't I don't have the I never never have had the twitch reflexes necessary to play like Just in your face heroes that's why I play support I like to play the macro game with lane pushes and everything and I like to make that decision to like start a fight Over here so that this lane will push their inhibitor and I want that inhibitor to stay down So that I could make other plans, you know as we're going but I mean you're a jungler You're more of a twitch reflect kind of guy. I can see why that would be be a good comeback mechanic For guys like you I would think Absolutely. Yeah, I'm firmly in the camp that they should respawn and we talked about it briefly but it's Mainly because of if for whatever reason my team got behind we lost one bad fight that we've been ahead the whole game But we lost one bad fight and lost our inhibitors that shouldn't end the game for us Right shouldn't be the thing that like forever now that lane will be a problem I'm okay with the the timer being very long on it But at least if I know that like okay in six minutes my inhibitor will respawn and I basically get another chance to Push back or come back into the game. I think is a great way to have it instead of having to constantly worry about that lane The rest of the game however long it may go if they get the inhibitor in 20 minutes or whatever it is Right. Yeah, and and the game goes 45 minutes long. I don't want to have to spend 25 minutes being like, okay Is that lane still okay? Yep. We're good. Right. Okay. Cool. Next like So, I mean, yeah, I get that I understand the arguments for It hibs or spires or whatever you want to call them that respawning. I totally Understand it. I just don't I just personally it's not not for me. Not for me Yeah, well the internet told you you're wrong man. Yes Indian internet has spoken So after that A Huge changes jelly knees you want to get into it? Yeah, everything's different And I don't mean that lightly so we've been getting the blog posts on their website for 12 weeks now I think at this point of the various systems and things and on Friday they pulled down the whole discord like deleted all the channels out of it just left like a general discussion channel that Everybody was freaking out about and then updated it that project ember was in effect. Whatever that was or the structures, spires and elders blog posts There was like a teaser about something called project ember, but nobody knew what it was Turns out it was some grand Update scheme from UG first off was the discord being completely revamped If you haven't gone to the discord already, I highly suggest you do There's a lot of new channels in there But also you need to Basically react to the rules post making kind of a I understand Type reaction to be able to see all of the things that are getting posted in the discord So about a thousand people have done so so far But I know that there's at least probably three times that many people that were in the discord prior So if you haven't done that go do that that's huge Because you won't get any announcements or anything until you do right so that's really really really important But also the website got completely overhauled and we got information about the more about the myths more about the universe all of the items or at least the majority of the items a 145 are on there with the stats and passives and actives and build paths and the whole nine yards. I Mean, it's it's a lot Yeah, the marksman ability got changed finally That instead of the selected target and they take more damage from you Instead gate get a free roaming ward that will travel around a set distance Which I think is a great change really glad to see that especially for the marksman class. I Mean, yeah, there's there's a ton of information in there. Oh Yeah, there's so many new things that they got going on with the website So you guys are undying games calm You can check that out a lot of lore related stuff a lot of this It's a lot of stuff that we already kind of knew but there is some new stuff The main thing is part of those items like you were talking about like I didn't expect that like I expected that they would redo the website At some point in time. I did not think that they were going to put all of their items in a searchable database on the website And there I mean there's been a whole like group of us that are making builds already based off the fact We've seen all these items I created a whole Excel sheet that we can plug in and see all the stats and see the breakdowns of the passives and all that Kind of stuff nice. Oh, yeah, that's all in the discord So if you want to come build with us in the discord item builds tab hit us up We're all happily happy to build with you. I did not know you guys were doing that. Oh my god, dude It's been a crazy couple days. I Know people are talking about building ADC Kalia all the time people are talking about that Yep, I think somebody made the build for her already too. I think that's the thing We don't even know what she does Oh, what was your what was your favorite thing your favorite new thing on the website? I Think I had have to say the items Yeah, I mean I put I put several hours into making that Excel spreadsheet to Make it really easy for us to make builds and all of that kind of stuff But I think being able to start theory crafting about like, okay if it's nighttime these items will actually be better than these items or What the the different scenarios are there are a lot of items that share similar functionality to items from other MOBAs Yeah, I recognize mostly League of Legends ones, but that's what I play But I know that they exist in other forms in smite and other MOBAs as well So I but yeah, the item system I think is the biggest one for me To go off of there. Yeah, there was one of the items I saw some kind of rifle I think but it operated a lot like Stinger boost did in Paragon Which will one of my favorite cards ever even if it wasn't Practical to use Stinger boost I was put like Stinger boost crunch Stinger boost Faye. I was I was the Stinger boost guy I love that card and seems like they have something very similar where after you use an ability you your next basic attack deals Extra magic damage. So yeah cool stuff there I think my favorite thing if I had to pinpoint one thing out of the entire website was that marina skin they If you look at the myths you they you get to see like we got to see like little clips Of some of the skins for some of the myths Um, now we got to see them all they're all amazing. They're all really cool But that marina skin was just fire Smoke stack horizon, baby. It was so good Easily the best skin out of them all you think I love cyber malaya But death blossom marina is such a good like it looks so clean The outfit is incredible like the color scheme is amazing like it just is so Good by itself. It is on point. It is on point. Just Yeah, absolutely. The other thing is the in that same page where you see the skins they have voice lines for everybody Uh, kai told me that they're about 70 per myth on the website But there are about 140 or more already in the game that they have recorded for each myth So there's two times as many voice lines as we can already see The one I got to call out one in particular because it's been making me laugh so hard over the last couple days There's in iran's voice lines that we already heard. He has a joke where I'm going to kill everything except for dogs, right Great, that's fine. Whatever he goes. He has a second one that instead of dogs He says except for bob And he knows what he did and I'm just sitting there like who is bob? Why don't bob have the respect of iran? Dogs and bob. Those are the only two things that iran will spare Everything else can die next. What a bob confirmed bob Oh my god, I just want bob as a myth now. He's playing ron's uncle got iran tallos malaya and bob like it's just It'd be incredible short for bobber Yeah, I haven't I haven't like looked I haven't listened to all of the voice lines yet Um the that's one complaint I have about the website. It loads kind of slow. Does it load slow for you too? It does. I don't know if that's an optimization thing or if that's server issues or what that is But yeah, it seems like every time you go to a new page It just kind of chugs for a second before you actually are able to see whatever's going on. Yeah It might just be how much Stuff is on here Like everything's done really cool. Like if you go to the realms in the codex it's not like Just a picture of each realm like it's a constellation Around this like central swirl and then if you click on the various planets and apparently You were absolutely right in your tin foil on us When you were talking about this the swirling spheres What in their phase one of the website being? Oh being the places. Yeah. Oh, yeah Mangoes doubts me at this point. We've been right so many times over and over again. I doubt everything you say At this point one of these times you're gonna be wrong and I'm gonna be like ha ha I win even in the discord. I was saying something today And one guy was like batting against me. I was like, do you really doubt me at this point? Like I'm like five for five on these theories. Just trust that I have some idea, please But okay, so So jelly was right about the orbs, but uh the orbs Like if you click on like they're they're obviously planets in a constellation It uh, it's the various worlds that the myths come from and then you can see a little blurb a little lore about each um Each myth and then if you just if you just go straight through the universe of a of ethereal It tells you kind of why they're there why they're fighting the whole background of Of this universe that we're going to be playing in and that's another huge thing that we got was a lot of lore Not not all the lore, but we got quite a bit more lore than we had before so I didn't something we realized Some people going through the website today realized Is that actually if you look at the myths and the lore on on their page There is a paragraph for each myth that kind of tells you what their abilities are Yeah, it's not direct about it. It's not saying like malaya's q is this But it's pretty like when malaya dashes through the map She's going to be able to hunt down her prey and gain more economy for it. It's like, okay You're telling me without telling me like Something that you maximize very quickly is like that's a skill. That's yeah, I mean there's a skill There's going to be a lot of that. I would think I would hope so that's uh, so when's when's that video coming out jelly? When you go At this point I found like 50 videos that I have to make about the website But I'm just like what this is a video now now. This is a video now This is a video a lot going on here the classes we we already knew about but they did update the class icons which are Fucking mental now like so good. I thought they looked good before like just basic Icons. Yeah, they just They just like Double down on how good they look like it's just the detail in them now is insane. Yeah You can go through something they did change that we Haven't we didn't know about before is that the archmages teleportation sigils Are only usable by the archmages not by the entire team Whereas before they didn't I think they said it was usable by everybody But I think that's it's changed in between now It is just for them because otherwise it is too broken which makes way more sense to me If everybody can walk through a portal then why wouldn't I said that a long time ago That would pretty much lock in that you have to have an archmage to Do anything in the game and if you had two People would just be showing up all over the damn place. You wouldn't know what was What was going on? And I haven't even started to like dig into the code of the website to see if I can find anything either This is just all on the surface I still have I'm not videos to make and then I'll find more stuff and find more videos to make Oh, dude, it's gonna be insane And if you're just catching up on ethereal if you go to the news section of it It shows you all the blogs that we've been talking about for the past What'd you say like 12 weeks or something like that? And uh, yeah, you can get caught up real quick on everything on everything they've been putting out about ethereal Um It kind of makes me think though. Where do we go from here? like Like what's next? What's the next update because I don't think they're going to be announcing the alpha anytime soon. It doesn't seem that way to me I I agree the overall feeling hasn't been that it's We're at that point yet. Yeah, but the way that this was was Dropped out Feels like we're building toward something bigger And sooner than later as well and I would think That I'm there they're going to have like a kickstarter or an indiegogo Or some shit like that that's going to have to be at least a month before the alpha so We're going to have to see a gameplay trailer We're going to have to see An announcement for whatever crowdfunding they're going to do And then we'll get the you know along with that we'll probably get the announcement for when the alpha is going to be But I don't I don't know. Um This is pretty huge news. I don't know how they're going to follow this up I don't I think fun fact friday might be done for a little bit Yeah Absolutely, and I mean they they were saying quarter one 2021 before right then they kind of shifted it And if that's true Quarter one there's not there's only two months left of quarter one right Um, so you kind of things are gonna have to start happening very very quickly For that's a whole accurate. So we'll have to wait and see In that regard to what what's coming next or soon I hope they do. I'm losing patience, man. I'm losing patience. I've been I've been sticking up for a theory or they've they've been uh I've been a lot nicer to undying games that I am to most people If you've ever watched any of my personal content, you know that I've got a pretty a pretty sharp tongue And it may be all in jest, but I still cut to the bone with a lot of these companies And uh, I don't know how long I could start I could spare undying games when uh I've been waiting for this alpha forever like when we started enter the ether I thought That we would be talking gameplay a long time ago Like I thought that the game was about to the drop like the alpha announce was about the drop And that's why while we started it when we did but uh Yeah, just we at this point we're sitting there. What is this 17 Ete 17 we're 17 weeks through And we've taken two weeks off so 19 weeks since the start of ete that We're still trying to wait for the game. Yeah I hope it's a lot of people are getting antsy a lot of people are getting antsy Yeah, absolutely. So it's We'll have to wait and see what happens. I don't know. Like, yeah It's so up in the air right now for everything and this will this will definitely tide us over for now This uh, this huge website update. Like I said, I haven't even gone through all the voice lines yet I need I really want to I need to I'll probably do that tonight Right now I'm pulling up That marina skin because it is fantastic She had a lot of cool voice lines and everything I'm starting to Starting to lean more towards marina than than malaya. Malaya has always been my boo, but uh Might be marina now From what we were looking at today marina's gonna have crowd control CC or crowd control a heal a Some kind of movement ability it sounds like like in water she'll move faster or something like that Uh, I mean it's gonna be And she'll be have damage as well that she can what do they say? She's going to be a damage support at the same time as all of these other things So, uh, there's something among those lines you like look on the website to see for sure But that's the rough and I was like, okay, like she's gonna do a lot of stuff then Yeah, she should be really cool her voice line. Let's do a lot of her voice lines. And yeah, you definitely get Listening to some of those a little inference as far as what the abilities are going to be Absolutely, all right So, um, I think that's about all I had to talk about There's so there's a lot that we if if we were to go through Every single thing today. We would be here for hours upon hours and we're not we're not gonna do that to ourselves We're not gonna do that to you Did you have anything else you wanted major you wanted to hit on jelly? I think we fit on the the biggest things so far We'll probably do more in-depth looks at a lot of these things over the coming weeks. This is kind of more a general website update Just letting you guys know you need to go check out the website if you haven't already You know, I think I caught the website update exactly as it happened Oh, yeah on accident because I was doing a um an update on all the games And I was going back to make sure that I had gotten everything for this month from ethereal I tried to load up the website and everything was pink and kind of broken So then like I reloaded And it was like the whole 404 not found So went back and and when I went back it was the new website Types of discord. I was like, hey, what's up with the website? That's funny. I I happened to like go on probably minutes after you did that I happened to go on there and and open the website because I was looking for something else for a video And it was different. I was like, oh what what is this? Okay, like Sounds like we both did the same thing looking for stuff for a video and it's like what the shit What I remember I tried to do the discord in all caps. I was like the sites changed and everyone's like, what do you mean? I'm like, oh look That's awesome All right, I think that's going to be it for this week jelly. You got anything to plug Videos that probably a lot of them. I don't know how many we're going to post this week, but As many as I can get out for sure Yeah, if you guys are watching this on my channel then head over to jelly knees channel It's always linked in the description below and I drop them a sub. It's free, man Thanks Fun screens too What do you have to plug? Uh, I did another state of the games video where I covered updates for everything Um I think probably the biggest thing I would like people to know out of that is king's hunt is having another open alpha in february Starting with the third. So if you guys are interested in playing That game, which is kind of a moba tower defense mixture sort of thing Come out and play that with with will are you going to be playing it jelly? Yeah, I'll probably be playing it all this week once So Wednesday, I think it's wednesday on through sunday. I'll probably be playing it every day So the time you're watching this tomorrow Yeah, come come play with come play some uh tomorrow some kinks on whether I switch your youtube. I'll be on all you gotta do is go On steam. Uh, there's gonna be a demo button. You hit that demo. It's completely free. You download it You play the game. So, um, yeah, that's that's what I'm plugging for this week. Um, I think that about wraps it up Just go to the website guys just go to the website Check it out. Hopefully we'll know something soon about the alpha so that we could all enter the ether Go ahead and talk for a second just so I can make sure the levels are the same Uh, I am now talking for a second and looking at my levels to make sure that the same is yours Well, that's perfect because I'm checking now if my levels are the same as your levels were five seconds ago When you were talking to see if the levels were the same Excellent