 Next question is from B. Bowks. What is the best way to approach training obese clients? Yeah, okay, so obese clients, so we're talking about people who are in that kind of clinically obese, which by the way now is a pretty big percentage of the population now, but when you're training someone like this, consider that the psychological piece is far more important than the mechanisms that are involved with weight loss, okay? So obviously we know if they ate less and they moved more and they exercised that they would lose weight. That's obvious, but it's not even close to that easy, okay? You're dealing with someone who you have to completely get them to change their relationship to food, they have to change their relationship to exercise and how they are with their own body. That takes some time. So one of the first things I like to do is I like to incorporate strength training and I tell them they're not gonna lose any weight for at least a couple months. So for the first two months, we're not gonna lose any weight. My goal with you is to strengthen your body and get your metabolism to speed up a little bit. And I know if you get stronger and your weight doesn't change, then we probably have lost some fat and gained some muscle. Then when it comes to the diet, I like to try to add things before I take things out. So and why? Because it's different, it feels different. Feels different to somebody to say, don't eat these anymore versus, hey look, don't change anything else, just make sure that you eat 130 grams of protein every day. So make sure that you hit that first. If you hit that, I don't care about anything else. But you know through doing that, that that'll get them to naturally wanna eat a little less anyway because of the satiety effects, for example, of protein. But I mean, in a nutshell, it's a very slow measured approach. It's not the, we're gonna get this weight off you because that's what you hired me for type of deal because you will fail in the long run. I mean, that's pretty much exactly how probably all of us go towards it. I'll add one thing on the exercise portion because when they would be with me, the goal would that I'm going to strength train like so. And strength training by the way, for this person could look vastly different, right? So sometimes strength training was holding their hand and then standing up and sitting down on a chair. Now I've also had obese clients that could still put a barbell in their back and actually get a pretty decent squat. So depending on where I'm gonna meet them wherever their level is for strength training and that we're gonna primarily focus on strength training with me. Then this is where, and I think I've brought this up a long time ago on the show, I used to get these colored dots. And a client like this, I used to love to do this where I'd put them, have them put it sporadically through the house on the refrigerator, maybe on their bathroom mirror, maybe by the TV. And when they saw this, I would get, they would do something. And every client was different, unique. Sometimes it was mobility work. Sometimes it was body weight squats. Sometimes it was a sit up or whatever. But I'd have like little things that are just 10 sets or 10 reps of something just to keep them moving and trying to implement just more movement in their day. Like a little reminder. Yeah, just a little reminder. When you see that dot, go do this. If you see that dot, go do that. Or encouraging them to walk more and move more. Normally people that are in this obese category, depending on how far we're talking, like if we're going all the way to morbidly obese, they're extremely sedentary. And so I just wanna find little ways that I can create more and not extreme ways. Not biggest loser style. Not let's go to boot camp and get the ropes out and do crazy shit. No, things that I know that they'll continue on forever just saying, hey, this is what you'd normally do at this time. Let's add this. No, I love that. I completely do the same thing, but I didn't have like a system like that, which I think that's really smart. It was always just like what they could do after the shower or what they could do while they have the TV on instead of sitting down. Just trying to address a lot of normal tendencies and patterns that they usually are doing or they're going out to get food or what that looks like, how they could get more involved when actually making it at home. And so I spent a lot more time actually going to the grocery stores with them and walking through and really figuring out what type of decisions they were making and then how we could just modify one thing within that same mindset. Yeah, you have to appreciate that what you're asking the person to do is to change their life. This is not, I don't mean that in the lightest at all, right? The reason why somebody's obese is because of their life. That doesn't, that's just not the time they spend with you. That's everything, right? It's just how they are in the way that they live. You're asking this person to completely change that. That's what it would require for them to go from obese to lean. And so this is no small task. Anybody watching this right now, change your life completely and then make it stick forever. That's a very difficult thing to do. I don't care what it is you're asking yourself to do. So this is a very slow process you need to appreciate. And then I want to go back to what we've talked about with resistance training in regards to obese individuals. There's this myth that obese individuals have a lot of muscle and that they just need to do cardio. I don't need to get bigger, look how big I am. Lift weights, no, no, no. Studies are clear on this. Obese individuals have low muscle mass. Actually have very little muscle. They're actually underneath frail. In fact, osteopenia, bone loss is more common in the obese even though they're heavy. So there's this myth that no, don't lift weights because you're not trying to get big. You already probably have a lot of math. I've seen people say this like, oh, I don't need to build. You can see that I'm, you can see that I'm thick. The truth is these days, because we're so sedentary, everybody has low muscle mass. And people who are obese, especially when they start to develop insulin resistance, their body actually starts to get even weaker and they start to lose even more muscle. So the truth is strength- There's more pain and more problems. That's right, strengthen their bodies, build some muscle and that'll pay them dividends.