 It's not that I'm just always really grateful to be able to sit up for a regular board meeting. Would you all please rise and join me? To the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. I'm sorry to approve the agenda, please. Okay, I'm going to segue into just the overall kind of culture itself. I think overall for scheduling and just overall regulations, they've stayed pretty much consistent since the last few times I visited here. So nothing too different about that, but it's just like looking at like how students are interacting with their school environment and with their teachers. And like, even in some of my classes, we've addressed like how, especially the underclassmen, how they are trying to like build up a relationship with teachers or you know, pushing out surveys saying, you know, what can we do to be a resource for you? Or what can we do so that, you know, we're having a better connection with the students because it seems to be kind of a block and it seems to be very different as opposed to other years. And I was just discussing with Sylvia and formal back there that like, it's something that we're trying to figure out, but we don't know what it is yet with the students. I know like this generation, it's a lot more short fused now because we've had virtual learning. Like we were used to that quick content. Like now we're not used to being in person. We're not used to having to have our focus on one person for 40 minutes to an hour. And so we're kind of trying to fix that and trying to figure out ways that we can handle that better. And I think teachers are trying to get more student input on how they can be a better resource. Also with that, there is also been a protest at self. I know particularly about sexual harassment and sexual assaults. Students have protested on student comfort and how schools, especially self has handled sexual assault victims and the perpetrators of the sexual harassment. And so there's been protests that have happened. I know Monday it happened during lunch and then it went throughout the school day. And then Tuesday it reoccurred today. And so I'm in full support of it, but I just wanted to bring aware to that so that you are all in the know. Students, especially female students, not feeling comfortable within their school. Not feeling that their issues are being resolved properly or that they're just being pushed to the side. And so the protest is really about bringing up those issues of sexual harassment. Or even if it's like the smallest, maybe smallest micro harassment, but that it's brought up to attention and handled properly. And it also may touch into other areas like dress code or just inappropriate comments that are made to students and like how we can address that better. So there's been protests about that. I'm trying to get more information on how they're going to continue on and how they're going to keep the momentum. But I just wanted to bring that to attention. Along with another group, we have We Rise. We got to meet with Lieutenant Governor Mandela Barnes, which is really exciting. That happened a while back now thinking about it, but he was so fun to have. We got to ask him a lot of questions like, you know, his journey through politics or what he thought about our group and how we can continue to keep going with our work. And so that was really exciting. I got to take a picture with him and I got to stand right next to him. Woo! Perfect. So that was really fun because we got to meet up with him again and I think it was a really good connection with their group. Like we're all sitting there listening to him talk and it was a very fun moment. So that was exciting. With extracurriculars, there's not many highlights. A lot of them, again, were addressed in the previous meeting, but we just finished our season. I know Swim had a good highlights with their canisters and then gymnastics had a close. And now we're starting up with our winter season. So that's exciting. For cheer personally, we got to do our qualifiers. Unfortunately, it had to be virtual, so we got to go to the high school, but we had to film it as opposed to having the judges there. So our results don't get told until the 19th. Hopefully we qualify, but, you know, things may happen. The musical happened. I don't know if any of you all got to see it, but it was very fun and it was very well done. I enjoyed it a lot. They presented itself on the 9th of November and no freshman watch, but it was sophomores, juniors and seniors that got to be in the audience. And we just had such a fun time. The actors and actresses were so good. And I think it shows like how the district really handles the talent of North and South. It was a very, very fun thing to see. And there's a lot of student participation, which I was very shocked about because like, you know, in post COVID, it's like we've kind of lacked that involvement, but there is so much with the stage crew, the setting up, and then the overall performance, which was so much fun. We had parent-teacher conferences. Not much about that. And then for advisory, we're working on a lot of career prep and we did that district youth survey. I think that required one. That took forever, but I got it done. But we looked at different things like, you know, focusing on if you're trying to go into this career, what classes you should take, how you should align with that. We worked on how to be more professional with emailing because you can't just email a teacher, hey, what's up? You know, there's proper etiquette to that. So all these little things that we are trying to be nitpicky with. And also junior career prep. We took the pre-ACT, but it wasn't just juniors. It was freshmen, sophomores and juniors that took that. And that was enjoyable, very fun. Had a good time with that. And we're also focusing on attendance. So with that, we and our advisories are doing what's called a holiday blitz. So every advisory is like a team and it's like a bracket. So whatever advisory has the best attendance, it's going to move up in the brackets. Shocked to say that my advisory did get out the first round. Very disappointing because I'm competitive. But I think it's helping pushing students to just make it to your classes, you know, try to be on time, you know, fix your attendance because I know for the North and South game, we're really trying to crack down on attendance and time owed and getting students to say like, even if it's a mistake, make sure you get up and talk to your teachers about getting your attendance fixed. Because that is a big issue. And also with South's life, I'm going to try to keep it together. But Coleek Mack was shot and murdered. And, oh, no, no, no. Okay, not many people know this, but I've known Coleek since elementary school and throughout middle school. And he's been like a brother to me. So losing him was not easy. And very shocking. Compiled with Monsay's death in the beginning of the school year. But I think it really helped because the school pushed to make sure that students who were grieving with that or having a hard time with that were being acknowledged and have resources to help. And we also raised $3,000 for his family, which was amazing. I remember telling my parents, I was like, I have a lot of money saved up so I can donate. But it was a nice way to honor him. And I know a lot of groups got together to make pins for him to help with his memorial. So that was really amazing to see. Also, I think it helps me segue into counseling, resources for students. I think the Counseling Center did really good at pushing like, if you need time, please let us know. I know there are some days when I just emotionally could not, you know, and so I was able to go talk to my counselor, have a room to myself to just reconvene and do my schoolwork. And I really appreciated that. And I think we need to continue with that because, you know, a lot of students are in emotional state. You know, they don't know how to express their emotions as well. And even I struggle with that. So to have that back, you know, to have that backed up with like, hey, you know, come down, take some time, talk to someone that was really helpful. And so I really appreciated that. Sorry to tend to the sad notes, but that is my conclusion. If you have any questions, do feel free to ask. I just wanted to know, I just wanted to know, I appreciate you bringing up all of the tasks for the report for the particular assault students reaching out. Please, and Mr. Farmalos here, you'll correct me if I'm wrong. You can not put those students once and have a discussion. There's going to be a follow-up discussion happening with Mr. Farmaloso. I'm hopeful that that dialogue can continue so that those students can communicate exactly what's on their minds, what concerns that they've got, the resources that are in place and solve to work with students. You mentioned the counselors were at the end. Those resources are also in place for those students and the school stands ready to see what's going on. And I couldn't have said it better myself, so I won't. I don't know if this is the proper time to hear, but those protests and the topic of this are very, very concerning, and I expect some kind of explanation from administration. But what you said was so generic, I don't even really know what the problem is. Is this sexual assaults that are occurring in the school, are these people that have alleged incidents or actual incidents outside of school and how they're interacting in school? I have no idea what's got everybody all fired up. Was it one thing, is this an overwhelming continuous thing or what exactly is this concern? I'd like to have a better idea of what that is. I think the concern tenders around just sexual assault in general and how it deals with the school environment. So a lot of students, they are students, so a lot of their stories come from in classes of getting maybe remarks about what they're wearing or teachers saying inappropriate things to them. I'm not going to bring up any particular names because I don't think it's my right to bring up those stories, but... Yeah. Just about how schools and districts can better handle when students bring up issues centering around sexual assault or sexual harassment. So... Oh, of course there are specific incidents, but I think just to keep it more vague because it is a bigger issue as opposed to meddling it on one thing, the whole thing is just figuring out how schools and the administration can be a better service to students who need to report sexual assaults and sexual harassment. I appreciate where I'm coming from because obviously to get everybody's fired up and wants to take action, they obviously know a heck of a lot of information, more information of what's going on to get them fired up to want to take some kind of action. And we really kind of feel left out as board members that we don't have a clue as to what's going on or what these concerns even are. And it's just very generic at this point. Oh, that's why I'm... That's my job to report that to you then. Yeah, no, it is. Yeah, and I'm not asking you to do it anymore now. Oh, absolutely. But it's... And that's why Mr. Farmalo is working with those students to find out those specifics. What? Is happening, not happening whenever. And what can the school be doing to address some things in particular that maybe the school doesn't realize is happening? And we'll keep that... The actual assault that happened and no action was taken? Exactly, yes. It centers on that issue as well. And like again, the group is just getting momentum, so there's... Did it occur at the school? Did it occur at the school? I can jump in. One of the things that Kevin's working with and the school team at PetSouth is working with, a specific incident at a school was not the dialogue that Kevin had. It was more the generalities talking, as Kalista mentioned, around student dress, about feelings, about how to respond. And when I have a concern, how does that be addressed? Many of the challenges that our kids face, not only at school, but we've talked about it in some of the previous things around social media and the use of social media appropriately or inappropriately. And where does that involvement of the school rest when it's off campus versus at night and weekends versus during the day and if something were to occur off campus. But yet I have to see that person in my class and where is that responsibility of school versus the community. So it's those types of things. But there wasn't a one singular, like this is a big issue that was left unresolved. It's really about how to build awareness and that was what the group was going. Kevin, if there's anything else you'd like to add to that? Yeah, I think, I mean it's multiple layers to it. There's not a specific case that happened this year but just the overall feeling of that when a student makes a report of sexual assault whether it be in the community that the perpetrator has rights to still attend school. So there's a lot of, you know, there's decisions that are being made by the police department reports and then the courts that we as a school still have to offer free and proper education so that if that person who committed that act against another person they're going to be in the school and that victim is going to see that person. So that's really where a lot of it is and helping kind of clear that up. And then the secondary piece is just wanting to look again at our address code which has been a national trend now feels like for 10 years it does, where are we in address code not feeling like it's singling out females for seeing females for their address so that might impact the thinking of their male counterparts for example and just how that expectation in the schools is being implemented where students are feeling like they might be implemented with bias. So those are the two big areas that we're going to continue to explore. The students are going to help those, that group of students are going to help us put together an additional sexual assault dating relationships curriculum type presentation that we can do through our advisories introducing all the avenues that kids can take and then secondly we'll be opening up a discussion with our students on address code and helping redefine, move that line again. It seems like we're moving that address code line every two to three years based on the trends and what you can actually buy in a clothing store. So those are the specifics but at this point there hasn't been a specific report in the case that says here's where SELPAI happened and went wrong. So it's a general feeling from this group that students who are victims of sex assault are not being, their needs are having a higher hierarchy than that of the perpetrator that helps clarify it. But more to explore with the kids and we'll see what else comes up through private conversations that kids want to fill out sexual assault or harassment forms for the districts so we can continue to investigate where specific cases may have been. One of the things that, thank you Kevin for this excellent work in terms of meeting with that group prior to their wanting to engage in their demonstration and work through that but then also to follow up on those and I think Lissy made it, how does that group maintain some continued dialogue and momentum and to address concerns that are having. We are seeing this occur and I put that in the communication I shared with the board. We are seeing this occur in other school districts and what we're toast to being another example where a similar group of students conducted themselves in the exact same manner saying that they had to walk out and it was in the Milwaukee Journal for example that article and so we're seeing that trend I talked with our county superintendents and dress code is coming up in other districts as well in terms of that notion about, as Kevin mentioned about what we talk about a dress code in relationship to females versus males and that notion of what's a distraction versus what's a non-distraction. So we are seeing that and we want people to come forward and provide services we want to investigate if there's concerns and we want people to feel that it's a safe welcome in place at all of our schools and this is a group that wants to address and have conversations around that there's about 40 students or so on yesterday and about 25 today. Are these students marked as absent or how does that address them? If the students are have left class and they are not communicated with their parents have not communicated with they be marked absent like other students and if there is communication we would deal with it and that we don't forgive kids from doing walk outs or protests we don't encourage it either we're more neutral but we do take the same disciplinary consequential if you will say with consequential basis for student absences as any other student. Thank you. Hello board members I'm very grateful for the opportunity to share a little bit about north the culture surrounding there roughly the past four months of being back and more specifically the past month or two I would say as much as I love sharing about the athletics, academics and student life I'd like to hear a conversation a little bit more towards also what Chris had talked about kind of the student culture at north high we'll try to adjust to what we call the new normal we've definitely faced a lot of issues to name a few we've had excess bathroom graffiti just kind of some general disrespect toward other peers and teachers as well as problems with social media platforms and just sharing false and disrespectful information so in addition to some of the issues that north is facing there is also not really an in between I've noticed that like lots of students are either very involved in north and attend lots of events and are very involved in clubs and activities and then there's another group of students who maybe aren't as involved don't take school maybe as seriously or kind of are struggling to get involved so there's not quite there's a very large divide I would say this year that I haven't seen in past years so well facing like lots of these problems that I personally see as a student and I know other students that I've talked to have seen similar things I just kind of ask myself like why are students maybe feeling the way that they are or why they're doing these actions and my first thoughts are well some students have been in their homes the past year and a half and I think that just lack of social communication and interaction can really cause students to have anxiety when coming back to that because they're not used to being around peers and communicating face to face with other teachers and I mean even personally coming back to school like for the first time after I was home I mean just cause I wasn't used to being back in the school environment and the stamina wasn't there so I think I mean if I'm a senior and struggling with that I can only imagine like freshmen and sophomores who haven't had like that full transition period from middle school to high school where they're in the classroom setting and they really get to know their teachers so these are big changes and I'm not sure all students were mentally prepared for that change which could be part of the reason we're seeing some of these issues also I know lots of family dynamics changed over the pandemic so I think that can be a big adjustment to students they're not only worried about school but then they think back to their home environments and I know which these things can all lead to insecurities I know even some of the like the best students and students who are secure in their homes they still struggle with insecurities and I think I'm seeing that a lot more this year than I've ever seen in past years at North High School so there's just like this feeling that's a little bit off and Clissa we were kind of talking about that and it just can't quite pinpoint what it is I know I feel it and I'm just trying to ask myself like is there a solution but I also know that like these issues they just are time and like patience is key and trying to figure out kind of why students are feeling this way and staff and faculty and even students they're working so hard this year and I give so much credit to all my teachers because I see how hard they're working in the classroom but at the same time like I see if students need somebody to talk to they can go to their teachers because teachers are so willing to talk they also have their lives so I think maybe finding that one person in the school that we can communicate to students hey this is where you can go if you need that person to talk to and I think they have done that with like counselors and stuff but counselors also have big responsibilities with getting students ready for their next step in life after high school and I think just maybe that's one possibility I'm not sure what that looks like exactly but also a bigger focus of mine is just that I want to shift the gear at North and just trying to focus on the positives and just a positive way to bring people together so I think the support sometimes is lacking a little bit just like with peers especially so I think it can't be blamed on someone why students are facing this but my two biggest open-ended questions are just how can we move forward as a team, as a school, as a community and how can we get to the bottom of why students might be facing some of the issues that we're seeing at North this year and that I don't know exactly the answer to but it's just kind of some questions I've been thinking, I know others have been thinking so yeah those are just two thoughts but then on a positive note there are so many great things happening at North with sports and other athletics I know Student Council just had their annual holiday breakfast on Saturday which was a super big success it felt so good to give back to the community seeing all the little kids sit on Santa's lap it was so fun but yeah so with all the mix of joys plus some of the negatives that we're seeing at North just kind of finding ways to really kind of get to the bottom of why they feel the way they feel and just work around maybe some of the anxiety that's going on at North High School so thank you for listening to me and even though it's my senior year I really want to make sure to leave North High as a school that's known for its respect its ownership and engagement so thank you so much I'm happy to answer any questions some of the same exact issues that are happening at North and South are happening with Lakeland students too because you're complaining to it's really not the new normal right it's the old normal but its old is new again and you have to readjust we have two classes of students who have yet to have a traditional college experience because of the pandemic so they're on a third year of okay now is this going to be normal and I don't know what normal is and it's so bringing that up the message I guess is it's not just normal it's not just South I think if you high schools, middle schools all over the state, all over the country higher education it's not it's not just the North thing it's not just the South thing it's a much bigger thing but I think it's a community thing too some of the angst talking about some of that division we're seeing that community level we're seeing it on a statewide level so I think it's trickled into the schools so I think once we figure out how to solve it on that broader level and if you guys you two put your heads together figure out how to solve it I wouldn't surprise me if you did I wouldn't surprise me if you did that Centino Thanks David Sylvia, thank you for your report Thank you So dealing with behaviors in this school, right this is going to be a multiple multi-level question Is it the younger student population versus the old Yeah, well personally at North I definitely think it's the freshman sophomores, I mean it happens in all grades it's kind of looked at on a scale most problems have probably been within our sophomore class why exactly I think kind of some of the reasons with the pandemic like we've talked about but I would definitely say it's geared towards the younger, the underclassmen from what I've noticed the upperclassmen at least have had some experience and some exposure to the years prior to COVID so I think that's what we're primarily seeing at North Yeah, it's the same thing here because like our seniors are the only ones who have actually taught at our school and so our seniors are the only ones who've actually dealt with that the entire year and have dealt with like the constantly changing classes and teachers and stuff like my grade for juniors we've had that for a little bit, but I cut short because of COVID and it's like it's hard to then go in like go completely from a different scheduling and get used to that and then like having this commitment like oh do I have to go to this class it's only 15 like 20 minutes today or something like that so it's definitely with underclassmen like we've had to fix a lot of how we do our self-life around centered around them and keeping them geared together so it's more definitely an underclassmen issue because they've missed those years of high school development or even late middle school development too Which comes to my question how as an administration can they support the upperclassmen to be like mentors to the younger classes coming up because you guys have seen it, you guys have been through it you're more mature how do you feel that you can be helped to empower yourselves to help these individuals coming alongside of you to show them hey this is not the new norm but how do you persevere through this to be the next class that steps up to keep keeping that cycle moving to the positive direction That is such a great question and that's actually what I was just talking about with Mr. Machik today like what can we do you know like there's all these issues but it's I think it's something that is might just take time and patience with just kind of trying to dig in a little bit deeper with some of these students that might be struggling and I mean that's a great, I'm wondering the same thing as a student you know I agree too and I think my always my first idea is like involvement like when I have younger people like and like student counselor stuff I'm able to connect with them through something that they also like so it doesn't feel too forced with them and I'm like hey you want to work on this together and so I think they look up to us in those certain aspects it's like pushing for like hey if you're interested in this do it and like upper class I think would really love to maybe like form some groups of students where they can just exist you know without expectations and just be around their peers but you know my big thing is involvement but also what Sylvia said like it's hard to pinpoint one exact thing to like push on them like it's just going to take time again to just get used to your surroundings and just try to have back some sort of high school experience as well but I think no mentoring is Kevin and John will kick me out I'm speaking out of turn but just mentor you don't have to wait for anybody to give you a blessing and say okay we're going to have a mentorship program just do it and you too clearly are leaders in your school you know the other leaders in your school you guys can empower, you're already empowered and just empower yourselves you're already there just do it I mean you know what to do I think you know what to do and you don't have to wait for so much of your performance to tell you what to do you know they can help you like Centino suggested they can create some avenues pathways open some doorways but you've got that ability already inside of you they're not going to suddenly instill that and you know it's already there just do it I was wondering North has the same concerns with the sexual assault with the sexual harassment going on there is there going to be student activism there also so personally I don't know anybody that did the walk out but there was stuff posted on social media pages advertising for the walk out so I wasn't as informed on the subject so I didn't want to bring it up because I don't have a lot of background on it but I definitely saw stuff being posted are you aware of any specific incidents that are occurring at North? I was not I'm not aware but I'm sure there has been I thought I could keep this to myself but I just can't so I was driving by on South business in Washington when this happened the first day and the mom grandma and me was traumatized by those kids standing out in the media so if you can take it back to school and maybe you close and Kevin and just say I'm a child of the sixties I protested myself I'm here to kingdom come but if they could stay on the sidewalk if all we need is one kid getting pushed by somebody else into traffic that's such a busy corner I made all the hair in my arms stand up when I realized that some well-intentioned person could hurt somebody could get hurt so it's an important part of America to be able to express yourself and to have protests be a part of how we function in our society but not in the media in a really busy intersection because if somebody gets hurt we're really really sad we don't need any more kids getting hurt or lost in life you should include it in the weekends too my kids say I'm overprotective the message that would be heard a lot longer I just want to take a moment to thank all of you for the the candor and the insight it's difficult at any age to talk about uncomfortable things pressing things things with anyone in the position of party it's extremely impressive to do it as seniors and juniors in high school we don't have an ability to address or have these conversations without the honesty and candor that allows us to do a better job and ultimately the whole purpose why we're in this room is to figure out what you need to succeed and what your peers need to succeed and it's very helpful we're not in the buildings day-to-day to know if there's kind of a mood maybe perhaps it's the right way to describe that I don't know if it's else but just thank you thank you for doing that continue to keep that honesty and bring that to us and know it can be intimidating I hope it's not but it always can be and continue to lead as Dave said I think the most powerful thing you can do into an impact in that culture is inspiring your peers to also mentor and build that but there's clearly work that we have to do together to support it but mostly I just wanted to say thank you for having the courage and the spirit and the willingness to speak to this power absolutely thank you anything else can I get in there break his knee happy holidays thank you so much for having us thank you for everything thank you so much okay we'll move on to item 7 community input anyone here tonight who would care to adjust the board anyone here tonight who would care to adjust the board okay we have online we have one individual online I've noticed they want to dress the board but they would like to raise their hand at star 9 I am not seeing their hand so I just wanted to make sure that we pause to give them an opportunity to kind of eat which is a super challenge for them good evening again glad to be here this evening to engage that leadership I was going to echo that so thank you Kyle about this leadership and wanting to bring forward issues and discussions and talk about possibilities today we had partnered with Prevea Health to offer COVID-19 on-site vaccination clinic for students 5 and up the clinic was held at Wilson elementary school between 3 and 7pm parents had a pre-register but they also dated except walk-ins when I was there about 4 o'clock today with pre-registration they were expecting around 50 individuals to who had signed up plus their walk-ins they've had already to promote more tomorrow again it was completely voluntary it's nothing that we require we are just trying to provide a conduit for those who are seeking opportunities and trying to remove some barriers for families they will be back at that same location the week when we return after the winter break that first week in January on the 4th for their second dose no charge to our families we were awarded the district was and thanks to Meredith and their team within nutritional services $118,000 for the 21-22 fresh fruit and vegetable program program promotes fresh fruits and vegetables obviously there are healthy snack options for students that helps them develop life-long healthy eating habits funded by the US Department of Agriculture and administered through the construction so again additional resources to support our students in healthy eating months ago we came to the board through the staff foundation and a group that would like to recognize that time to sit down for the naming rights of the Acuity Field House main floor and so Friday night was the ceremony if you saw the spread that was in the Sunday paper they had a status pictures they had a program during the game on Friday night former students and Tom was able to speak as well Dan Stangle and his team helped facilitate that along with our Sheboygan Public Education Foundation one of the things that they coached the boys basketball again for 39 years at North High and during those 39 new years they had a lot of great wins which is a third most in state history and most by any division one coach in the history of WIA Wisconsin 17 conference titles 24 WIA regional championships and obviously led to Golden Riders WIA state tournament championship but led them to tournament seven times title winner in 86 you know Lincoln High School when I was attending there but I'm happy for that Sheboygan and there were runners up in 93 again pictures in the write up was in the press and again think that group of former players and there was actually a picture that took in the Desatel gym of former players with the coach so again congratulations to that and the foundational gift to make that happen will help support other programming across the district so thank you the third installment you should have received the SASD email newsletter every month we're trying to capture and highlight a variety of activities going across the district and typically from each of our levels to help people understand again part of our goal to work and you can hear a little more of our goal report later on in the agenda but there was information about the state report card earlier during the student spotlight there was information about horseman students that performed a food truck as part of the family consumer sciences with their food truck showcase so again I thank Sarah and Nicole for putting together and working with our schools on getting information out to our families we've got some very positive comments families and we've got people asking how do I get signed up for that as well so we're very excited about that and last but not least I just want to recognize the fact that this will be our final board of education meeting held here at the central what's now referred to as central support and the central building as we will be making a shift in January to the administrative services building and so it's a little eerie to come back here as we're setting up and getting things organized for the nice meeting the second floor here and the third floor here and some of our community work in our maintenance electronics group we're all out at the new building and things are going well there we will be having an open house to the public and we are scheduling that for the night of the January 25th which is the full board meeting we know the committee meetings can be a little you know difficult and more people are interested in the full board meetings so that would be a more appropriate setting so we'll be getting some information together and being sent out saying that prior to the board meeting that we welcome people who would like to tour the building and then also stay for the board meeting of course for the highlight of the night so we'll be communicating that as we go over the next few weeks here especially after the holiday season so again we're excited and the new building will be working well but this will be our last official board meeting in this room that's the end of my report so for next month when we have our committee meetings please tell me that we're going to get a map or at least at Arrow State we're going to be meeting for the committee meetings yeah we do have a signage that indicates the rooms and we're going to have consistent rooms so once you learn how to get there we'll be working through that and we'll have staff to help especially those first couple of committee meetings to get you there and back I get lost easily so I appreciate that perhaps just for the finder we'll be there asking for a friend not that I'm in the building not that you would not show up at the right spot asking for a friend so we will certainly send reminders as part of our regular meeting notices and go forth as we do so I say that because an agenda setting sat with already at the and I said no I'll see another person and I drove right here to an empty office so we'll make sure that that occurs anything else for sign? that might have been the most productive agenda so I knew that okay and we'll run to miscellaneous 20 21 order report Mark Wendy and Brian well I'm Brian Grdewald with Cliff Nurse now thank you for having me here this evening I just have a few highlights with regards to the district's financial condition and the results of their audit before I get to that I do want to thank Wendy and Mark for the cooperation and assistance that we receive throughout the audit process your team puts in a lot of effort preparing for the audit responding to requests working with us throughout that process I just want to say thank you for that cooperation and effort in terms of the audit documents we do have the audited financial statements as well as we do also issue a separate letter I'm going to refer to that as executive summary in terms of the discussion tonight I've just taken some information from both of those documents and just summarize it within the context of this PowerPoint but if you have questions on any of the documents please feel free to ask I just wanted to start out briefly and I wanted to remind everyone of the responsibilities with regards to the audit and the audit process from management's perspective management is responsible for the financial statements management is also responsible for their internal control environment that means essentially looking at how things are done financial policies and procedures accounting for specific transactions that's all part of management's responsibility our responsibility is to express an opinion on your financial statements in order to do that we perform tests audit tests and procedures to support our audit opinion we certainly consider things like accounting policies accounting estimates and we also consider the organization's internal control structure we do not issue an opinion on your internal control structure to provide a summary of the audit results we actually issue multiple different reports that are all included in your financial statements the first being the auditor's report on the basic financial statements that's considered to be an unmodified opinion commonly referred to as a clean opinion essentially means that I believe that your financial statements are accurate in accordance with our professional standards and I do want to point out that that is the highest level of assurance that you can receive as part of the audit process the next item there in terms of internal control again we consider your internal control structure there is a comment there that's listed as finding 2021-1 preparation of the annual financial statements that's something that's been reported in the past it's very common for districts of your size we're required to present that finding because as part of the audit process we have also been the ones to prepare your financial statements in an ideal accounting 101 type environment the organization would prepare that and then we would come in to just purely audit that in practicality again what we're doing here is very common we provide a service to prepare your financial statements that again that's the schools within your financial statements the last item there just want to focus on compliance that's focusing on federal and state aid I will talk more about this as we move through the slides but certainly federal and state aid very important to your budget your budget process from an audit standpoint we perform tests of some of those programs and we do issue an opinion on that that's considered to be an unmodified opinion and again I'll talk more about federal and state aid as we move through the slides so certainly all good news when you step back and look at this slide I also want to touch briefly on information that we are required to communicate to the board as part of the audit process the bullets that are included on this slide are included in the executive summary it's a letter that's essentially labeled as required communication it's a standard document the language and the content in there is fairly consistent with what you've seen in the past I would say if you have any questions with regards to any of those topics I would be more than happy to talk about those further this bullet point list is a listing of some of those it's not designed to be all inclusive from my perspective I would say there's certainly nothing that's a red flag nothing that's unusual it does talk about standard information like things like accounting practices it also does talk about things like audit adjustments which I want to highlight all adjustments that I'm aware of are included in your financial statements again meeting those are complete and accurate in accordance with our professional I'm just going to pause here is there any topics or things that you've seen on that list that you'd like me to talk further about any other comments so far okay and then I will keep moving ahead I also wanted to again highlight some of the single audit highlights this is again focusing on your federal and state aid from a reporting perspective there's schedules in here on pages 84 through 87 that lists the different federal and state programs that the district participates in from a dollars perspective you receive approximately 14.5 million in federal funds and 94.8 million in state funds I do want to point out there was this increase in the federal funding for 2020 you received just under $10 million so a significant increase of $4.6 million in federal funding primarily due to increases in things like child nutrition and then the ESSER funding due to some of the additional funding resources that were available from a testing perspective again I just wanted to point out that we do not test every program we go through what I'm going to refer to as a risk-based process for determining which programs we concentrate and test I listed those up on the slide here so you can see we've tested three different federal programs and four different state programs and I really just wanted to give you perspective on this again from a testing perspective the federal programs that we've tested represent 6.9 million all the 14.5 million so really we're testing less than 50% of the federal funds that you receive I just wanted to point that out in terms of our testing again no issues no concerns I'm not aware of anything that we would need to report in terms of a reportable condition just again just trying to give you some perspective on what we're looking at from a compliance standpoint any thoughts or questions on that then I just wanted to move into some financial information and the information that I'm going to show you and walk you through is information that you've seen in the past or the topics are consistent with what you've seen in the past I'm going to focus on your fund balance reserves that's the most common metric in terms of measuring financial performance in reserves I'm also going to talk about some of your long term liabilities your long term debt as well as your other post employment benefits I think what you'll see as we walk through the financial information that all of the financial information I would consider to be very positive very strong you have been in strong financial condition you'll see as we walk through this that that certainly is continuing as we move forward this slide is just focusing on your general fund and it's looking at the fund balance for that fund again you can see the overall trend your fund balance for your general fund has been increasing slightly over the last several years the overall balance at the end of 2020 was approximately 49.3 million that has increased at the end of 2021 you're at approximately 55.6 so an increase of 6.3 million that is discussed I would say in the management discussion and analysis section of your financial statements there's also some budgetary information in here I would recommend that if you have not read the management discussion and analysis section of this that you do step back and take a look at that that does provide a narrative overview of the financial statements and some of the information that's in there I just want to talk briefly on the different categories here the category that I tend to focus on the most is the unassigned category that's the dollars that are available they have not been earmarked or set aside for any other purposes you can see the overall growth you can see your trend over the last five years and I do want to highlight from 2020 to 2021 that balance has increased to almost 34 million at the end of 2021 so certainly a strong balance there as a reminder the assigned and committed categories are categories that the district uses from a planning perspective setting aside resources for specific purposes there is additional information on your financial statements in pages 57 and 58 that detail out those purposes I just do want to highlight as part of that the assigned category that is really driven by the board's knowledge and board action back in July of 2021 there was some action taken to set aside funds for those assigned purposes those match up and then I should point out that the committed funds that is primarily related to the health insurance reserves and the district's health insurance program this next slide again focusing on the general fund specifically the unassigned balance and from a benchmarking perspective we like to look at how much unassigned fund balance do you have in your general fund in comparison to the amount of actual expenditures within your budget you can see the overall results here your trend again over time is it's increased slightly 26.2% at the end of 2020 versus 26.1% at the end of 2021 while I did mention your unassigned fund balance on the previous slide you did see the dollars increase what's happening is the expenditures in your budget have also increased thus that percentage that you see in the slide here has remained relatively flat but the message with this is that from a benchmarking perspective you're in very strong shape with regards to your overall fund balance the general rule of thumb overall fund balance is typically 20-25% so being at 26% right in line with that benchmark and again just an indicator of being in strong shape I think just to add something Ryan I think so when we look at this 26.1% that's as of June and then so what we do then that's why we come back to the board in November and we recommend those additional designations so that we're within that 15-20% that's within the policy of the board so just in case you're wondering I thought we've thrown out I think we're at about 18% well that's after the action you took in November okay thank you for clarifying that Mark and I do want to point out that when we look at the expenditures we are combining funds 10 and 27 within your financial statements and thoughts or questions on that okay and then this again just giving you a snapshot of your fund balances as of the end of 2021 versus 2020 I'd say the highlights here are in the special revenue section the overall increase in your food service balance up to 1.9 million at the end of 2021 and then if we jump to the bottom the capital project section there I just wanted to highlight the last line there labeled as the long-term capital projects fund and you've continued to set aside additional resources within that fund completing a $3 million transfer that was approved and effective as of June 30th, 2021 bringing your balance up to 5.5 million and then I also just wanted to give you a snapshot of your long-term debt again this is as of June 30th fiscal year end again you can see your overall trend moving back to 2017 approximately 57.3 million in debt rolling forward to 2020 year at approximately 45.3 and at the end of 2021 at approximately 42.5 this is just the ending balance during the year you did complete three refinancing transactions that's all reflected and disclosed in your financial statements on page 38 and again just wanted to give you a presentation of your actual ending balances as of June 30th and you noted for the reference this is all as of June 30th, 2021 the debt footnote disclosures disclosed the individual debt issues the ending balances and then we do have information with regards to the refinancing transactions that occurred sure, in the chart here the green was the pretty healthy section in 2017 which represents the reference result of the refunding gotcha so they were taken out as notes and now they're refunding bonds got it and then I did just want to touch briefly with regards to your other post-employment benefits on your fund 73 just to remind you again you are required to have an actuary go through that process and value the liability they issue a report on that every two years the most recent actuary evaluation included the liability of approximately 17 million the second bullet point there focusing on your fund 73 that trust was established in 2006 to help set aside resources and the net position are ending balance in that trust as of June 30th, 2021 was approximately 27 million those funds are required to be used for other post-employment benefits and again as I walk through the three topics that we focused on those are kind of the three main financial metrics that districts are measured or benchmark based on all of yours are extremely positive in terms of your overall fund curious on that slide what happens with the $10,000 $10,000,000 difference there so what's happened is is you've over time have changed your benefit at one point you had a benefit that was based off helping individuals pay for the premium and now you've moved over into funding HRAs and I know the district has been focused on fully funding those HRAs those HRAs are assigned to the individuals and the individuals receive the benefit of generating interest on those funds so it has helped to increase the overall balance but everything within that fund 73 is required to be used towards post-employment benefits so for example like right now we pay people out to retire a certain amount towards purchasing their own insurance would the $10,000,000 difference between our current liability and the benefit trust balance that you showed in that position could that be appropriated to increasing that so that people could have more money or you can't that money is already in their accounts so it's not it's even though it's held within this fund 73 trust in HRA it's in the individuals name meaning we can't touch it unless they if they don't retire with the district or they're not eligible for the HRA then the money reverts back to the trust but that if once an employee has 10 years of experience with the district they're allowed to invest that money in different variable accounts and the stock market's done very well the last five, six years and so some of those employees have made a pretty nice return of investment on their balance so that's that's one of the reasons why there's a surplus there but it's not money that we can access to use to spread out to other individuals does that answer your question Kate? No but I don't really understand if I if I may Mark just to and Brian they the $27 million is really the how much money is on hand within all those accounts that would fall under those HRA accounts and other post retirement benefits meaning that would be the value of those accounts if they were all able to access and the $17 million is really what is our what would be our liability in terms of what we would have to fund in order to be able to fund at the levels we said we were going to fund is I think that's a good way of putting it I mean the liability is determined by the actuarial study of you know it gets a little complicated how they come up with that number but basically they're saying you promised them this what's the cost of that over time for your current employees and then the net position given out in the HRAs and how is that money growing over time for the actual accounts so the money that's in those accounts is greater than the liability of those accounts but it's not the districts money it's the individuals money it's in separate accounts because once they're vested in the money it becomes theirs it's not theirs until they're vested but we can't legally take money out of their individual accounts until they would the district and not qualify for it to be vested and once you put it in that trust you can't take it back out you can't you can't put the money in and say oh we want to change your mind and do something different once it's in there it has to be used for those benefits I have a question because I just remember that was a big live item budget wasn't that $2 million this year yeah it was so we had had $4 million in our operating budget to fund two things one retirees that retired before we did this and we were still paying a portion of their health insurance so that number has dwindled down there's very few that are still pre 2013 retired and then the second amount was to fund these HRAs so we had to fund those contributions and we had to back fund which we borrowed for so we're down to where from an operating budget standpoint we only need $2 million now to pay for retiree health insurance and to fund the HRAs on an annual basis that dropped quite a bit this year but the loan we took out that principal and interest is due this year and next year it's two years we're paying it off and because that was non-referendum debt that counts against our revenue budget so even though we had a drop in the operating budget we had an extra payment in our non-referendum debt so they kind of cancel each other out so when we talked earlier in finance about in two years when that $3 million debt service drops off that's all under the revenue cap and that's going to be money that can go back into operating we'd wrap my head around why do we need the budget $2 million if we've already got $10 million in surplus on liability because we can't touch the money that's in the individual HRA account so we funded let's say we funded a teacher $1,000 last year okay they turned around we funded that in variable counts and they now have $1,500 from the $1,000 we gave them that's not money we can take back and use to fund other employees or something that's in their HRA funds so and they're relying on that too is there a liability of a one-time liability or is this a rolling liability or I guess how is that determined the liability is calculated by an actuary that process there's a lot of variables that go into it it is an estimate they look at the benefit packages that you have they consider the terms of the benefit investing requirements how much you're expected to get there's certain they also consider that you know there's going to be people that are here and employed that never received that benefit because they might they might leave the district without being eligible for that there could be other things that happen to them that they never wind up taking benefit so there's a lot of there's a lot of variables that go into that process they do evaluate that every two years when they go through and do this full actuarial process you're required to do that if you're required to have that certification as part of that process and we rely on that in terms of what goes into that. Is there a way to determine out of that $17 million liability how much of that $17 million we've currently funded or we're overfunded yeah so we don't we're not overfunded those accounts did really well for those individuals yeah but what I'm saying is that we don't have a net liability anymore but then why do we have $2 million in the budget for it you also have people that are continuing to earn benefits as you go and you need to continue to keep that in your budget because they're continuing to earn benefits and you can't take money that's in the trust to pay for it. Well I mean that's just a significant amount of money if these accounts are not fully funded already that's what I'm trying to we'll always have to budget for the annual contribution to the HRA accounts every year so I know that there's a lot that goes into that process and there's a lot of questions that can be raised by that I guess I just want to step back with regards to the purpose of the slide your following standards with regards to what you're doing with the Actuarial Study you have negotiated with your employees to provide them a benefit and from the district's perspective you've been focused on getting caught up with that back funding and understanding and limiting the impact on your annual budget I think you've done a fabulous job with that and from the employee's perspective the reason you see those large cash balances there versus the liability amount that means that those individuals are benefiting because again those individual balances are receiving investment earnings and they're going to wind up with the benefit of that so I just want to step back that was the purpose of the slide any other thoughts or questions? I just wanted to point out too there is information with regards to new accounting standards we will work with the district in terms of implementing those from my perspective accounting perspective financial statement disclosures the least one I'll say there's a little bit of work that needs to go into that one so that is a little bit of a bigger deal from a budget standpoint no significant changes you just need to understand and you need to make sure that you're budgeting to make the payments that are required based on those agreements so more of a technical accounting issue if anyone has any other questions I'd be more than happy to I just want to thank Wendy too for all the hard work she does with keeping all these grants and finances in order and your team so it's a team effort it's not me I'm just the figurehead here tonight and before that this would be the last presentation in this room I think you said you've been on the at least on the accounting team here for over 20 years I don't want to date myself here but I've been in the profession for more than 20 years and I started out as the rookie on the audit so I've been coming here ever since so I'll probably be going to the wrong building as part of the audit process I'll drive him there I'll drive you out it's just for discussion so it's not easy I appreciate it thank you thank you Wendy this is the quarterly review of our strategic plan as Jake and Andrea are coming to the table Mark already had his seat there so this is our second report of the year as you recall we do four reports throughout the year October and December we'll come back again in March and then we'll conclude in June then again the next report will be in March one of the things I'm just impressed and continually have tried to communicate with this group is just the work that they've done along our long-range plan with all the other areas that we need to address on a day in and day out basis but maintaining that constant focus on getting these critical long-range plan items accomplished and you'll note that all of the status indicators for our outcome measures are on track or have been completed on time there's a lot of information there in terms of the evidence and things that we've done but I have to give kudos to Andrea to Jake to Mark and to their teams and then also Nicole and Sarah for the last communication objective and I'll be covering that this evening on their behalf but just thank you ahead of time for all the work to stay focused and to work with your teams and the buildings to accomplish what we've accomplished thus far under these annual goals now that we're halfway into the school year so let's start with the turn over goal and the objectives forward to Jake Now be brief and highlight and please do ask questions so go on objective one probably the summary there is that those seven pilot schools have been trained and now their role in the process is obviously to continue the implementation but also to work with SNI team to determine the best way to work through this process in the next seven schools so they'll be putting the training plan together and tweaking what they went through based upon their experiences for the next seven schools Goal one objective two probably I think two things worth highlighting here first one being that online model so we're doing an online elementary school or program I should call it this year that really Jason Duff and Warner are overseeing and we're going to continue in that format for next year we kind of we looked at do we want to do a charter school and do we want to keep it as a program and I think financially it makes the most sense and student wise it makes the most sense to keep it a program so we'll continue to offer that option in our district the families that seek it out at the elementary level but those numbers I think should dwindle as families become more comfortable sending their kids back with COVID and then activity five just today we met with meet and confer and we're increasing incentives to staff who can get dual credit certified to a $5,000 stipend and really just working with our staff to say please, please, please go back and get those credits and it's not a small amount of work by any means so in order to teach those dual credit classes they have to have a master's and 18 credits in their content area that's the law that changed so we have a number of teachers that are going back to school and getting the 18 credits in their content area and those are challenging courses and challenging things to do but really benefits our kids and then as a result we offer literally thousands of college credits to our students at a reduced rate sometimes even a free rate to them so great opportunities for our kids and we just keep trying to incentivize our staff to get that credential goal one objective three the name of the game here is the same thing that you've heard a couple times today and that staffing challenges so it's going to be in need of more school based therapy school based therapists and Kristen and Lakeshore are doing all they can to help us trying to work with Lakeland as well but that's a challenge so we just continue to try to figure out partnerships in the community that we can utilize to get more therapists in our school and when we can find them we'll put them to work and then before we heard about last time when we talked about report cards and the next step there will be to have the high schools and the middle schools come forward and share their data with you our goal around district support systems you'll see that we finish the RFP process for the in health clinic that we partner with the city and county so that was for the 2022 contract here and that contract was awarded to our current provider Helix so we're happy to continue working with them on the success of that clinic objective 2 around financial information systems so we are currently meeting with the county in the city to discuss some different options that are available to us to complete the second lateral from our fiber optic ring out to the WISSNET service so we're hoping to have that completed by the end of this summer and then also we're we requested some quotes to have Skyward do the hosted services for us to get our on-site data storage done through there on their servers this is really just some risk management that we're taking as more and more school districts are finding that they're being infiltrated by ran somewhere and things like that so it's one of our big goals is to lessen some of that risk by doing that off-site storage objective 3 on their nutrition services one of the big upgrades will be for Warner schools as they move into this floor and the third floor above us they will actually have a cafeteria in that new space so that kids won't be eating in the halls anymore they'll have a cafeteria and our nutritional services team has been working with Bray on the design of that cafeteria and it'll be a nice new cafeteria and serving experience for the kids there so we're excited about that and then objective 4 around our capital needs so the Citizens Facility Advisory Committee needs to meet every month they'll be taking off for the month of December but back at it in January and I would expect that they will get through that process and come to the board here during the summer with a recommendation for the two middle schools and then the west side maintenance shed that's going up at the horseman campus so the foundation has been poured, the salt shed has completed the doors have been put on that shed right now the board and the steel framing is going up if you drive by there you'll see some of the big giant beams going up and once they finish the roof then they'll be working on electrical and plumbing so we do expect that to be completed in January and then move to the new administrative services building so everybody has completed that move that will be in that building so right now there's still a lot of boxes around and some clutter but everybody's working hard to get organized there and everything's been moving along there very well and we're anxious to have the board meeting there in January and have our open house and then as far as the space we're vacating here Bray spent these last few months meeting with Warner schools and with Jason Liederman and the Aspire program to understand their needs for these spaces draft plans have been presented by Bray and they're now meeting with those groups to tweak those plans and that process will be wrapping up very soon where they'll be at about a 50% of the spaces and then they will work to get some estimated cost and then have that go out to mid probably in February with construction to begin right after that completion beginning of August so that they have some time to make their moves and into the space so this room here will pretty much be exactly like you see it now because we did remodel this room not too many years ago and it's going to be a nice large group of construction space for Warner schools so we're excited about those two programs and what they're going to be able to have compared to what they have now okay so objective five we have surveys out to our 17 comparable districts for teacher information as well as administrator salary information and then for our Y2Y program we had our education pathway meeting October 18 we're really excited that one of our students has been named a national ambassador for educators rising and she's only a junior at North so excited to have her participate in that and really take our educator rising to that next level and getting more involvement and we do have more students involved this year which is great and then for providing leadership opportunities the special education staff put on professional development opportunities for educational assistance during our fall parent teacher conferences which was very well received it they've been asking for additional training and so they had several things to choose from for training that day and it was really well received by the staff and then goal to objective six the work continues under our external brand strategy work we are an internal work as I said earlier that third newsletter went out in December the previous editions are archived on our home page and you can see those we're working through a new internal communication platform we shared previously that we had to make some shifts the ability for us to really do video internal posting kind of that social communication as employees we hope to roll that out sometime in early 2022 and then we continue with our doing a variety of post social media and again using those two different hashtags one being sast difference and hashtag celebrate sast so you're seeing a lot of media presence with that we bring new make new decisions we've got one new for you tonight that was approved by the HR committee in terms of coming out to the full board talking about some potential pay increases for our employees and trying to do some other work in the right way how do we get that out there how do we communicate to really come up with a communication plan and would support getting the word out and really utilizing those social media channels as well as other communication so just an example of that work to really strengthen how we're sharing the positives about the sast so where we're at with the long-range plan happy to take any questions regarding the updates tonight and also look forward to updates come March questions what's the latest adoption of revised for the positive 8800 thank you which is sub-patriotic ceremonies and observances questions what had occurred last week at north and more of a situation of controlling misinformation that was spreading on social media was actually a direct threat to students but what can we do to respond to that Jake and Seth had talked about really some unprecedented stuff that the administration attempted to get obviously there were still a lot of student concerns David noted both appropriately with our guidelines and social media environment because we start to see it pop up after the tragedy that we saw in Michigan but happy to take any questions what's the update we got an update on presentation on how they're utilizing the ALIC program those you've been on the board for a couple of years know that this has come up quite a bit a few terms frequently I would encourage you just to look at the presentation that Eric put together it's pretty amazing how they're using the tool and the measuring the way to differentiate for students I said in the community I was very very excited to see this because we've talked about ALIC a lot and it was a tool and assessment and it really realized how it played out in the classroom but some pretty exciting stuff and that was possible through some of those public dollars that we invested to help as the supports that it was resulting in. But that a yield. Thank you kind of human resources committee Mark. I would move approval of appointments that are listed in the HR agenda along with number three the retirements. Questions? Wasn't there what you were saying? I didn't pause. And then I'll move approval for items number four and five because I think that they're essentially married together to begin with and that's the educational assistant pay range and the food service pay ranges. Those of us who are in the community just a little background. Well I guess Andrew would be free to jump in but the bottom line here is that we were in line with paying well enough these positions comparable to other schools but with the nature of the beast with private industry paying fifteen dollars to twenty dollars for factory line work we're not retaining employees or getting interest for these educational assistance and cooking kitchen jobs so we needed to bump up by a couple of dollars an hour roughly and then increase the pay scale too for the people that are in place along with providing a two thousand dollar signing bonus after they've worked for 90 days for us. One thousand dollar finders fee for employees that for all that pans out for us too for new employees that were essentially full time positions for the district so that's it in a nutshell I don't know if there's any more to it. Facilities, recreation and theater committee right. Thank you very much Mr. President. I move approval of items number one and two tabulation of bids for roofing in South High School item number three is for your reading pleasure only or if you get the beacon you can see what's going on in there as far as the new marketing as far as CRD's new marketing strategy and items number four and five on the approval of the STC and CRD financial reports. Second. Any questions? If they would say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any questions? Any questions? If they would say aye. Aye. This is two sites at the Stomberg crossing subdivision last 21 and 22 in the amount of approval of first reading of revised Board of Education policy 6605 crowdfunding verbiage clarification made no real major policy change question. Any questions? If they would say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any questions here? Just a correction on the purchase price that's only $90,000. That wasn't $95,000. I'm sorry at $90,000 I was going to say $45,000 each. I thought it would be faster but now it's probably soon. Yes, $90,000 each. I move approval of Board of Education policy first reading of policy 6231 budget implementation. This is a clarification it used to say in the policy that the budget had to be approved in accordance to law. We just defined what that law is for the first vote. Nothing changed. Just made it clear. Second. I am opposed. National school lunch program equipment grant. This is for a cooling salad bar cold food station and horseman junior high foundation. $3,000 to the Chicago theater company science Olympia $4,000 living trust of 1982 to the north high form exchange events in the moment $5,000 and the shabuigan early bird rotary for red raider manufacturing tech centers $10,000. Question. I'm dating myself but calling horseman junior high foundation. Of course December we'll go back.