 Alright, absolutely amazing and fantastic. This is Harshtagwa in the morning. Welcome back. My good name is Sakur. And you can find us on threads, TikTok, including Instagram, as well as Facebook, our 22 for 4 channel. Personally, I'm Brian Sakur 101. Now, this is the last interview, as well as the first interview of the day. So you make sure that you interact with us. We've posted an interesting question on our social media today. We are talking about mantas, men and polygamy. And initially, in our introduction with my superstars or my co-stars, we were trying to demystify it. And there's a place where we agreed that if you have the wealth, you come from a community or a family where you have resources and you're able to sustain two wives, please go ahead and do it. But if you are poor, please go look for money so that you find a better life. And a woman should not be another person to add on your list because you are adding problems and top of problems because if you can't sustain her, then why do it? But then traditionally, somebody else will argue as a man, you're supposed to have like four or five women with you. I'm like, bro, which one are you living in? But anyways, away from that, I have two powerful gentlemen in studio with us right here who will actually pull their mindsets into this. And I really can't wait to introduce them to you. But keep on chatting on our question, on our social media. And in just a few of the sampling, some of your feedback as we progress with the conversation right here. Now, on my immediate right, he is Alban Moano. He'll tell us where he comes from, as well as next to him is Steven Moe. Good morning, guys. Garibuni Sana. So I'm going to start with you, Alban. Maybe just you mentioned you're a nurse, but there are nurses, few male nurses. When somebody hears of a nurse, the first picture that comes in their mind is a lady with a white cap on the head. That has actually been a symbol for nurses for a very long time. But things have changed and now men are also nurses. So as you've heard, I'm Alban Moano Yugi from Presbyterian University. But then my home county is Sierra County and I'm a proud member of Sierra County. That's where I come from. So in Presbyterian, I'm in my final year as a student nurse. I'm also their former president and currently back in my home county. I'm also an executive in the Sierra County Universities and Colleges Students Association. So briefly about me, I'm so passionate about youth and I love serving humanity and also politics, goals hand in hand with humanity. So that's my area. We're out of QMC here very soon. Thank you for that, Karibu. And then Stephen? I'm Stephen Moy and I'm also a student at the Presbyterian University of East Africa second year. My home county is the very county where the American, former American president comes from. We are so sorry. We are very sorry. We apologize in advance. We apologize in advance. And the sub county is just that one of Honore Buraila Molo Dinga. So that's my background. Also the next president of the Presbyterian University. So love politics and music. And on top of that, you are studying journalism. Yeah, I'm doing journalism and mass media communications. I will. God forbid. But anyways, you know, dreams are valid and we wish you well and Karibu Sana. So let's start off with the album. A topic I make very interesting, Sana, off air. I was trying to read you some of the comments and one of them says, before Kitambuata, it was automatic as a man. You should have like three, four women. I don't know from the experience we've had from the generation we're in right now. Is it right or wrong? What makes it wrong? What makes it right? And what makes it not to be okay? Okay. As an individual, I would wish to say that when we talk about polygamy, you see, it's so hard to say that it's right from my own perspective because people have got different reasons why they venture into polygamy. My reason may be different from your own reason, whatever is taking you there. So maybe it could be wrong to you, but it could be right to me by getting the difference. Yeah. So maybe sometimes whatever led me to be there could be different from your own reason for being there. So I can say from my own opinion, yeah, sometimes it's, it's, it's good. Yeah. It's good. And from the previous notion that we used to have when we were growing up, because in a way I come from my home country, that is, there is a lot of polygamy and I have to confess where you come from. I love it when you say where you come from, because these things can be traced from the origin of culture and tradition. Yeah, that's what I'm headed to. Okay. So there's a history of men having several wives? Yeah, there is. Even your uncle, your brother. In my extended family, there is, yeah, in my lineage where I come from, there is a history of polygamy. So I'm talking from where at least I have got some point of view. You've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it. You can confirm. Yeah. All right. Interesting. What about Stephen? Do you have any story, experience, what you've seen, what you've read, or maybe you're an example of a polygamous man as well. Polygamy is something that follows our alleles as Africans. I will divide the polygamy into two. That is polygyny and the polyandry. Polygyny and polyandry. Yeah. Polyandry, that's when women now do it. Yes. Now women practice the act of having multiple partners. Male partners. But now, I don't support that totally. Okay. Why not? The reason of not accepting it? It is not logical. It is against nature. It is against the Bible, against the Qur'an. Or for females now, not for males. Yeah, for females. But polygyny is supported by nature. It is supported by the Bible, supported in the Qur'an, and it follows our genes as Africans. And biologically, a man is polygamist. Okay. Yeah. Do you have any backup or statistics, examples, a storyline? I come from Siaia. That's Lula. And you guys? Earlier on I introduced the very country where Obama comes from. That is only Siaia. Now back there, we were born where, though in my family, there is no polygamy I've never seen, but around, everyone is polygamist. Okay. So are you also heading on that trajectory of maybe you'll have to, let's switch it back since you're still a student. Are you dating several women, three, four, five, like when we'll have a backup, when we'll have a Sunday, when we'll have a weekend, when we'll have a weekend, because I feel like also that's another form of polygamy. But then it can be justified. They say, you know, before you settle, you'll have kissed so many frogs. It's a saying, I'm not manufacturing it, please. They say you kiss so many frogs before you finally find the one. Is in that part of that trajectory that leads to people settling with, perhaps I think Aisha is good, but then let me see if Jerry, we can work after I'm settling with Aisha. Yeah, that's true. But then allow me to take you back a bit. When we talk about polygamy, then allow me divide it again into two, like my friend has said. Now there is polygamy and there is polyamory. Then when we talk about polygamy now, it's when there is marriage in it. But then polyamory is when now whatever we practice in campus and whatever the youths are doing, there is polyamory. Whatever you're practicing now. Very acceptable. But then polyamory can be found in polygamy because polygamy, there is marriage. You can be married to two or three wives, but at the same time you are practicing polyamory, whereby you are having a relationship that is intimate sexual relationship with other partners, but you're not married. You're not married. You're not married with them. So polyamory is when now you're not married, but you're having several of them secondary relationships that are intimate. And they're not leading to a solid marriage. Or it can lead to it may not. So in short, you're just having fun and chilling. So what I can say about that is sometimes most men, because most youth, because this is where now we do trial and error, you want to experience every aspect of life. Out of what I say, I get the best. So for me to get the best, you start sampling. Exactly. Yeah. So until you get to there. Are you speaking from experience? Have you sampled? Because I feel like, yeah, I feel like, yeah, for my boys, this sample, two different things, several things before you find out. But then also, we women say, you know, I can't just say you are you're my Juliet or Romeo until we've walked down that journey with several Romeo's and several Juliet's. So still it's that chain. You're my chain chain in the end of the chain. So by the time you're settling, but then it reminds me of story, a body count. As you're doing this, this, this malisafi and the chain chain, remember all these, all these people are having intimately numbering in the lake pond. Exactly. But the time you're settling, you've had intimacy with like so many people, you know, which I feel like once you realize somebody has had intimacy with 30 people, please run for your life. Exactly. You see, you see, like right now in campus, let me give you an experience because I've been there. President I've handled so many cases and I'm aware of what is happening. You find a first year coming, a first year, maybe she's 19 years old. But then within you know how for the years, third years, they like using this junior, this junior freshers. They're using them. Yeah, yeah. Let me use that one. Let me use that one. So they're using them for fun. Yeah, yeah, you'll find that for them, they are still green. They don't know things to do with campus. And now they are taking that opportunity. You'll find that a lady is only 19 years old. But this lady has been into relationships that are more than her years. Even more than the, he's her own mom and dad. Exactly. I've ever done. Yeah, in the name of trial and error, you are trying to experience. So it's also dangerous, like you said. You may end up having a chain that if you start listing, you can use a lot of full scups, just listing. You need a PowerPoint presentation to make it understood. Get you, get you. Yes? It is not that dangerous. Before you test, before you decide on which brand of soda you want to take. But you don't test all sodas. Unless you're paying for them, you know, before you say me, I love Coke or I love Stoney. You must know how Fanta tests. Okay, but you're paying for Fanta. So you're paying the price. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're paying the price. Now if you can afford to test all of them, test and decide. So that before you enter, you can enter into marriage without experience. Now once you settle down, you are married, then now you start looking at your, these are these other women was better. These other one was better. So before you decide to settle down, you must really know what you want and what you don't want. That's why I really support that we should, you should know what you want. Just walk around, have several women and see so that you settle with one that will see that is the best. Since you supported, what will you be looking for in these three women or these two that you have, that you can't get in this first one that you have? Am I who you are going to flavor different in your who you are. So you are trying to bring those flavors together. Yeah, yeah, you can bring the flavors together. Again, there is a love language of a man. A man has a love language. And just few women will understand your love language. So definitely among them you will find one that will understand your love language and you can settle down with that. Let me also ask you, you if you're picking or you intentionally choosing to have several women as your partners, life partners, because that's a marriage institution now. The resources where you're getting the money to pump into her and then also pump it to this one. And both of them have kids. Are you are you doing something called assisted living where you're being helped by your sponsor or your family or you've been blessed to come from a wealthy family where you have all these resources. And I stand for you to just pump into this woman. I think you must have a plan. How does it go? You shouldn't end up with me if you have the finance to sustain these people. The children will be a number of them. The wives, two or three or four, you should have a plan and the wisdom to sustain this family. You should maintain peace, have the wisdom to maintain peace in your family, and the resources to maintain them. Financial resources, financial resources and maybe the ability to fulfill their conjugal rights. Yeah. So you should be ready for it. Before you just in a in a lowland, mostly you find that Louis Marie's second wife's after they get rich. Yeah. By the time I'm at a photo, I'm gonna be being mojah. Right. Like you know, so that I could be able to maintain the both sides. It's interesting because in the intro I said there's just something about being a lawyer and a lawyer once. You're gonna marry this. You'll definitely be pushed to have a second wife. Let me come back to you. Since both of you are from lower land anyways. Okay, what I can say is that polygamy is not just for everyone. We have to clearly understand that. It's not for everyone. Why am I saying this? Yeah, exactly because you won't eat that relationship. Yeah, there is love. And now there is these other necessities that we need. If you don't have the resources like he has said, run away from it. Because remember, from that love and relationship, you start bringing kids. These kids, they won't eat the sweet words you have. Or you are your your your handsomeness or your beautifulness. They won't eat that. They will need something at the table. So it's not just for everyone. Secondly, polygamy also for you to venture or to get into polygamy, you must be someone who can multitask. Why am I saying this? First, these women that you're going to have, they will have their own needs. An example is attention. So you must be someone who can be able to give equal attention. Because remember, if there is no equal attention, there will be wrangle between this. One will be unhappy. Exactly. And then from the fact that one is unhappy, they'll start fighting or bringing issues in that fund. So you have to be someone who can give equal attention. So you have to be enough. You have to have an abundance of attention. Yeah, you never run out. You must have that. So if if I can elaborate that further on the attention, like where I come from, let me let me now say from the rural and where I come from, you find that in a home where there is polygamy, there is a central meeting point. So this central meeting point, you'll find that roles have been subdivided whereby today if it is from house one that is serving you food, it's house one. Tomorrow is house two as you go. Then now when it comes to sleeping and satisfying conjugal rights, you also divide it. Today you are here tomorrow. Like you don't spend much of your time in one place, in one house, like most of the nights in one house, you have to divide them. So you have to be someone who can divide attention and resources. You see? Yeah, so that has to be key. It's not for everyone. Not all can be able to do that. And at what age, you know, you had mentioned when you put your pattern to say, you will like my like and a quick gear. We'll go on and on and on and on. We will be able to have a secondary for secondary at our university. Because in Ushago, there are so many crazy things that happen in there. You hear somebody dropped out of class eight to get married to a rich guy as a second or third, fourth wife, and you ask yourself, my dear, what happened to your mind? Why did you pull your brains out? You know? So what is pulling these young girls to get married to a 50 year old man who has three wives already? You know you're landing yourself in trouble. So it's not even that fancy. I'm a family of 10 million. It can compensate for what you've lost in education. So one key factor here is poverty. You find that in most cases from where we come from, from the villages where you see in most cases where people are a bit landed, polygamy is a bit lower, but then from where you find people are a bit not exposed, there is a lot of polygamy. So one key factor is poverty. You find that from your family, there is just nothing. So when I drop out of school, maybe when I drop out because of fee or maybe sometimes peer pressure because that can also lead to school dropout. Pregnancy. Yeah. So what next? Yeah, what next? When you have papers, you can't get yourself a job, particularly for the ladies. So an opportunity whereby he's rich. What will you do? You go in. So that's one leading factor to that. Right. And maybe I'll also like to know from your experiences. Do you think like, especially in this generation and in the season that we live in today, marriage is not valued. There's especially landed people. There's those who are like me and not get married. I don't want to get married. In fact, I don't want kids don't even invite me in talks that talk about getting kids or husband or wife. But then in rural areas, they value so much marriage. They be like, first of all, 25 and I don't know them. You can't be 25. So as compared to in urban areas, people are concerned about work. People are concerned about getting money, savings. People are concerned about their looks, how they dress as compared in rural areas. So they're like, ah, we ended up with us. We got 25 for a cook up. For me, I support marriage. I don't support people living a solo life because solo life also, it comes with some respect in it. You'll find that people will pronounce themselves that for me, I don't want to get married. I don't want kids, but then you want relationship, you see. Yeah, so when you get married, at least you have got some direction that you're following. But then if you're just like, I don't want marriage, but at the same time, you want to satisfy your own conjugal rights or the rights, the feelings that you have. So it comes with some form of misbehavior. You'll find you start jumping from here and there. You don't want to get married, yes, but you want to enjoy this, whatever is being enjoyed in marriage. But maybe most cases you'll find these people are just awkward and weird. Awkward and weird is relative depending on your experiences and exposure in life. Yeah. So this person is awkward, if you let me say ma. There's a term, I think it was, she was a media and politics lecturer at the same time. She used to visit what country? And somebody has befriended cabbage as her lover. And I make love to cabbage. Like she is totally married to a cat, a dog and a cabbage tree. We don't know love work. So where are we heading to as the human race, you know, into her mother. Recently we had a person who turned into a dog. You know, they turned into a crocodile and got married to a crocodile. I remember that. Yes, as in what's going on in the universe. It's easy to tell. It's not easy to tell because right now we are having a, the world is becoming so dynamic. Yeah, and people, some of them want to be unique in their own way so that they stand out. Others also, it's just being awkward like you are saying. You really can't understand the psychology of that particular person. Yeah, that's according to me. Yeah, so it's not easy to tell. Some people, it's just being awkward. Because how can you get married to a crocodile surely? Or cabbage. Yeah, people should be married. And that is to protect the dignity and the repetition of a man or a woman should be married so that you don't misbehave. And those getting married to a crocodile. Sorry, just a minute. Marriage will prevent you from misbehaving. Yes. But you can be married and misbehave. Very badly, even worse than a person who is not married. But maybe you can misbehave, but people that will see that you have a wife will not know that you are misbehaving. You can, as you introduce yourself, even when you are a public figure, if you introduce yourself, this is my wife. There is respect that comes. But maybe you don't want your wife to be in media. Like for me, I'll not be all the time saying this is my son, this is my wife. I just thank you for coming here on social media. But some people know. Maybe my family, but not outsiders. Some friends may know. It is just a way of maintaining repetition and natural dignity. Okay. Yeah, but getting married to crocodiles, cabbages, it is very weird and it is a cultism. Okay. It is a cult pressure. Yeah, it is a pressure from cults and social pressure that leads to that. Well, how put to me, hit the nail on the head. Now, let's turn it back. For women, you mentioned, are you the one who mentioned Polyandry or who mentioned? Polyandry. You are the one who mentioned. Now, if it happened vice versa, that we reach at a dispensation or at a time when women will now be wanting to get married to you. In fact, women will be married, because for us men, we married the woman. Now, the roles have been reversed. It's women on the other side. Now, they're the one calling the show to be like, well, and somebody said it's somehow in India it's happening. Well, like this Hindu lady gets marries you and she pays your dowry. It happens. And you're now in that. How do you feel as a man being married to a woman? Biologically, a woman produces one egg every month. One. Okay. One active egg every month. Nars, can you confirm that? Yeah, I do. That's logically true. Yeah. Every one active egg. Yeah. One active egg. Every month. So, in short, it's in Asia. A man. As Asia. They can't. There is menopause. Yeah, there is menopause, but reaching menopause doesn't mean that all the over that you have. Remember, something that let me get out of the topic. Let's get into medical medicine now. You see, ladies like a small girl at the time of birth, she's already born with a certain number of eggs. Over. Yeah, over. Somebody said the 300 and something or 400 and something. 400 and something. Yeah, I don't want to quote the exact number because depending on different sources. Now, a small girl will be born with exact amount of over in her ovaries. But then as she grows up, she will only be releasing one every month as she goes. But it doesn't mean that she will deplete all all this. Unlike men, but your spams are being produced as you grow. You don't have exact number. And produce. Yeah. Okay. So as we say, but when you say my it's true. Back to the topic to medical medicine school. Okay. Around a man produces around 120 million spams per day. Confirm us. It's true. Okay. Now, if you look at this sex, the main aim for sex is for procreation. Now, if you know nature, go back to nature. Naturally, a woman produces one egg per month. A man produces 120. If you calculate 30 men are enough to impregnate all women in the world, 30 men. Okay. Yeah, if you calculate that. So there is no way a woman can now decide to marry to a four men. Now that it's weird and it is biologically incorrect. It is against nature. And it's against religion. It's against God. Okay. But I'm home. I have to I beg to differ with him. Good. You see, now that I love politics a lot and I base my part of my reasoning from the constitution. You see, even those ladies, they have got their own rights. They have the autonomy to decide on what they want. Now, if a lady meets a man that is willing to get married to her, it's okay. So land good. They can get married and maybe who knows they may prosper more than any other person. She can get married to depending on that particular man. You see, sometimes the women are the people who are paid dowry to the man. So it's like the man is married. Yeah. So it depends with the agreement that you guys have. Does it not water down the masculinity? Because like he mentioned nature, a man you're rough, you should provide you have a, you know, you're always the one making the moves and the woman has to sit there and submit. Yeah. That's where I was headed to now. It's well and good. You guys can get married. But then in this marriage, there is some things you really must know. Because men, we are biologically different from lady. A lady can never be a man and a man can never be a lady. From the way your biological aspect is, is different from the woman. So you can tell me that you can start performing the role of wife. Yeah, you cannot. It will reach a time when, sometimes even if I can use you as an example. You can cook willingly. But in a future, you don't even have that. Yeah. And you wish you had somebody cooking for you. Exactly. And it feels good to be cooked for. Exactly. You have everything in the house. But you have everything in the house. But a lady, rarely. Yeah. Right. Like it's warm and instantly. Yeah. Yeah. So I support it because it's their right. But then as a man, you must put those, there are certain things you have to put right in this marriage. We say, my two, there are my roles that I have to perform under you as, because a man can never be a lady and a lady can never be a man. But it seems like in this generation, we tend to normalize women being men and men being women. Which is so wrong. Okay. But then also, it has reminded me of that saying that a lot of women say is what a woman can do, what a man can do, what a woman can do it better. I don't know if it's also trying to take it in that trajectory. But then if you look at it in reality, there's a lot of women who have taken over men's spaces. Initially we never used to have women who could repair a drainage system. Now they're everywhere. We never used to have women climbing on top of, you know, like fixing right now, a light technical issue. There's a lady, I'm going to fix my wires. Initially it was in fact, it was a taboo to see a woman climb a tree and open, you know, move bigger. In fact, just moving bigger steps, you're like, no, a lady, you know, be moving bigger steps. You're supposed to be, you know, very delicate. But now they're doing everything that men are doing. It's true. So is it not moving it to that aspect? And now women can also call the shots. They have the power to say, I can marry you if you can't marry me. It's true. Yeah. That is happening right now. And that is also part of the course of whatever we are talking about a person just being ambiguous. Let me say so. Because if I can give you an example of this single parenthood, you'll find that in a family whereby a child grows without a father, it's right. Some of them thrive and eventually they turn out to be something. But then there is something that this person is lucky. The same same way, if a lady starts performing a man role or the roles that are meant for, there is something that will automatically not turn to be right. So I'm always not in support of that. Yeah. Because when it turns that way, the kids you are going to to bring up, generally as men you have to be strong. You have to be someone you just have to be, to stand out to be stronger than the lady. But then now think of a family where a woman is now the head and then the woman is still the father and still the mother. Yeah. You'll find the kind of boys that are going to grow up in that family. They'll have women tendencies. Yeah. Yeah. They'll be girls. They'll start behaving like which is not right. Also, you're discouraging single mothers. I'm not discouraging single mothers. But then it is something that a single motherhood, not single mothers. Hey, English, please. Single motherhood. If it were me, then we should discourage single motherhood. Let me bring it back that way. Okay. Yeah. Can women call the shirts and marry whoever they want in terms of she can have several partners, like one, two, three. The same way culture, you know, can accept in this day and age. It is possible for a woman to marry several men. It is possible but again, it's unfortunate. You mentioned, you quoted India. It is not necessarily a fact that because the women pay for dowry, now they take the role for men. It is just one of the transfer duties to women. Not everything now that men should do, now they do. Men, they provide for their families. And it is like that. But again, there is no way now a woman can now decide to have maybe just relationships. It is right. It can be right. Just a relationship. Several relationships. Several relationships. Again, it's pointing out to cheating. Because when you have several relationships, it means you're committed to this one person but then you have other commitments like five guys. Yes. So you're cheating. It happens. That's just cheating. But now, polyandry, that can be very unfortunate that you see your sister marrying four men. These are my husbands. It's awkward. We are done barbaric. Just right there before you proceed, what happens to this soft life ambassadors when you're married? What's now happening today? I mean, my soft life is not going to happen but not me. I'm just kidding. I pay for what I have to do. Yes. Some men are using that as a way of income. It is a job to them. It is pain. It is just like doing any other job, going and working in the bank. Once a woman is married after all, you are after men. You are not after men. You are after men. You are after men. If you are wise, use the finances and talk to them when they want. Hey, hey, hey, hey. I hope none of them do that. Me tumping into our fellow sin compass when I say, hey, bro, none of them do that. Capital city again. None of them do that. But then they forget that life is a process and they say easy come, easy go. Whatever you get easily, goes away easily. Instead of trusting the process, you want the process to trust you and you have to take your own corner so that you reach this thing that you should be getting at 40, you have it at 20 and now that you've said, men are allowed to have so many partners. Are you gathering experience of intimacy, staying in a marriage? You mentioned at some point that you can be married and don't have experience and learn from that marriage. You mentioned it, right? But then now, we won't say, I'm a woman. If you have enough wisdom, you can tell me okay, okay. So you see what's happening here, people are totally different. Like when I was saying that I'm a psychologist, I'm different with my own psychology. There are people in this particular relationship at a land. By the time you're at a land at the end of the day, he's ready. There are people who are subject to even 30 or 40 relationships with fate. It's not a must that a series, a chain of relationship for us to get now a better partner later on. Yeah, yeah. At a land in one relationship, and after everything that he's looking for in this one person, it happens, I'd have seen that. Yeah, and I start a relationship and after that, they end up getting married. It's not naturally that when you get into a chain of relationship that is now learning, it's not. Because as I end up in the process of in the name of learning, because there are so many things that happens, there are diseases that we encounter. They say, it's not a must that a chain of relationships for us to learn. I concur. Just a minute, we have like 30 minutes and then we go. For comments, there's somebody who had a very interesting mindset. If you consider people of the past years, I mean the Kinagukas, most of them had more than one wife, and this may be transferred to the next generation. So it's an inherited chain. So this person says polygamy is inherited. It's in genes. So even as a Kosaku, it's genes. Yeah. It's natural. Okay. Good one. So the question should be 1, 2, 3 we are going to rush it down home. And continue. When I'm getting up and it rings I say, hello and morning, hello. Watching from Machako's. Okay. I'm going to accept the fact that man is naturally polygamous. But I respect like we're dominant. You agree? Okay. So advocate. All right. There's one. Natural from way back before Christ, men had many wives since one could not satisfy the ones. Okay. Let me answer. I don't know the name. The one in Dunham. And it's a Rashid Musa. The point of view of Rashid Musa, just repeat from me there. The question should be 1, 2, 3. I wanted them to get that question. You see what's happening. Sometimes there are people who are naturally polyamorous. You were born that way. The way he's saying it's in your genes. You are just naturally that way. So you may find that that's who you are. That's who you are. That's who he is. That's who he is. That's who he is. That's who you are. That's who you are. I mean, this day in Egypt, it's condemned. They can't accept someone who has another wife. Or she can't be accepted as a second priority, depending on her value and her worth. So that one will depend with the wisdom of a man. No, I don't know. I'm looking at it from the perspective of this woman. She's learned. She has the job. She has the money. She has the exposure. But if I'm married to her, then maybe for 10 years, then then then I'm already married to her. I'm already married to her. So, it's a fun thing to divorce. It's now her choice. But if you compare sharing a man with another woman and divorcing a 10 years marriage, I don't know which one is better according to her. But then, Brian, just give me one minute. I tell you this. You see what's happening. Remember you're forgetting something. I told you polygamy is not for everyone. They are settled in polygamy. It's not for everyone. And those who can accept. Yeah, their level of jealousy is exaggerated. So they can't just imagine being in a marriage whereby they have their sharing amount. But those who can accept. Even if she has all the qualities of the most worthy woman in the world. But she can accept. They can also be forced to accept. So this particular one you are talking about is a kind that can never get into such. So she's not for polygamy. So Sam, we have to go. I'm told that we have to accept. Your social media model model to pick up? YouTube. Yeah, that's my YouTube channel. YouTube. TikTok. Facebook. Hey, Sam. Thank you Alban and Steven. We hope to go for sharing your insights today. Alright, many thanks for watching and keeping us company. We catch you tomorrow for entrepreneurship Tuesday and health Tuesday at Y2 for 4 channel. See you tomorrow. Have a fantastic Monday.