 Welcome to Toffy TV. It is my ultimate Everton team podcast. Today, subject is Ned. He's going to be bringing us his ultimate Everton team podcast. His ultimate Everton team podcast. I will be bringing the podcast because I'll probably edit it too. So you're correct. There you go. So let's get into it. We've obviously have done this with Ped. The question we always ask first is even though we don't include a goalkeeper in this, who would be in your ultimate team? Should it be? So excited. I'm 21 so I think the only correct answer. Well, not correct would be Howard because he was in my beloved childhood team. I'm a big fan of Pickford. I wasn't. First year was for solid. And then next year I wasn't a fan. And then since, you probably could say since the Derby, which we won at Anfield. I'm a big fan of him so if he continues. So your fitch up is what you're saying? Well, no. Jordan Pickford has improved very well, that's what I'm saying. Okay. Tim Howard would be the one for me. He was just a solid, consistent keeper. He'd saved everything you wanted to save. Sometimes make a silly decision. But we weren't a Champions League team or a league winning team. You're going to get that in any team really. But he saved his points. He won his points. He scored a goal. He did score a goal. For so many years he was so good. Towards the end, especially at the end of his career, he was just brilliant. I remember that 2014 World Cup. He was so good. He was having a really good season. I don't think his last season at Everton was great. Maybe we should have brought someone in. In fact, Droll Robles had improved then. He was doing well. So why Tim Howard got put back in? He did get put back in for the Derby at a Robles. No, Robles played in the Derby. He didn't protect him very well. I don't think we've got a great history of protecting players. I don't think we'll talk about that a bit later on. But Howard for me. I think Tim Howard was really good forever. He signed him in 2006 on Manchester United. Had him on the low and then made it permanent. I think he was brilliant for Moise. He did have, like any goalkeeper, a guess. He'd make the odd mistake. Every player makes mistakes. He's just noticed my mistakes. It was just with Howard sometimes. He couldn't be a bit irrational sometimes. He was a bit erratic. Overall, he was a really good goalie for Everton. He was right. He was pinnacle. Maybe when Everton should have let him go. He was after that World Cup. He was superb in 2014. Absolutely brilliant. And then he started seeing little... ..little bits creeping into his game towards the end. Even though we had Joel, who did get in and play well at times. The Beto partners kept going back to Tim Howard. I think it didn't do Howard any favours at times. I think a little spell out of the team would have revitalised him. Kept that thing of, you know, if you play well, you keep the shit. And I think just at the end, but overall he was a brilliant goalie for Everton. He was a great character as well. He was a leader as well. And a great ambassador. So Tim Howard will be your keeper. We are basing it on the ultimate ffangame, which you can download. The link is in the description. That doesn't have goalkeepers in it. It has two defenders, two midfielders and two forwards. So who is your first defender? He was getting in next ultimate Everton team. Layton Baines. Everybody's picked him so far. You could say it's getting boring, because everyone's picking the same defender, but it just shows that's how good he is. I'm based in my Premier League era. Best left back I've seen play for Everton. What's going on with that? Nobody's picked Gary Ablett or Lucas Dean. My opinion stands correct. I just think he was the perfect professional, the perfect personality, and I can't remember a bad game he had. I know I'm young, so you've got a better memory than me. But my memory is just happiness. I think with Baines he did have bad games. I think it's foolish to think he didn't. He was a fantastic football player, and the biggest compliment I could give him is that he could have played in Everton's 85 league. We had a great player, but he was completely different. Absolutely mustered. There was no left back liking, and people compare him to Ashley Cole. Ashley Cole was in a great Chelsea team and a great Arsenal team. Ashley Cole was brilliant. People say this to me, but you speak about Baines. You have that thing, and especially on this, more than any other, when you're talking about players, is that people won't have your opinion if it's not what their opinion is. So you're mad or you haven't got a clue if you say different. For me, as a footballer, Lightning Baines was miles better than Ashley Cole. Ashley Cole was a fantastic athlete. Ashley Cole was a really, really good defender. Pacy, good defender. For me personally, I think Baines was better. People normally jump straight to stats, and if you want to argue stats, not only with Baines, but with the better stats, you could obviously look at his assists, and people say it's a pre-assist, because you've got to have someone to finish him. Ashley Cole had many league titles. So, Lightning Baines, and not only was he great on the pitch, you never heard of him off the pitch. He was not like a big social media star, got my own clothes in line. He's never caused a problem with the pitch. He's just a great professional. Great professional, good dad from the local area. Because we loved him as a player as well. I think when it was clear that Martin has started to lose the players, it was when we noticed that Baines was taking no notice or getting any sort of frustration, that was like... Martin has... Well, he was deep. I remember the Anfield Abbey when we got battered. Was that the... And Martin has a speaking term, and he's rolling his eyes and looking away. And it's that kind of thing, and it is what it is, but he was a fantastic player for Evan. And even in his last season, we brought Luca Dean in, and Luca Dean's a brilliant left-back for Evan. He's fantastic footballer. And Baines still played seven or eight times in his final season. That was excellent in most of the games. Great. At the age of 35, 36, he was still fast. He could still keep up with the pace of the Premier League. It was to get an up and down he couldn't do, which is inevitable. It's a Premier League, it's a tough, fast league, and he's been doing it for years and years and years. And don't forget release by Evan as a kid as well. He didn't make it out of Evan as a kid when he went to Wigan. Wigan. And really got himself together and Evan bought some back and he'd come back and he was... I loved him, and I, you know, strikers am I, cos I played up front. You tend to play as you play, and you're that position where you play, but I absolutely love Baines. He scored a few penalties against Wigan. I think he's most penalties against a team, probably Wigan, cos I remember he scored quite a few. A few of his early penalties were against Wigan, weren't they? I can only really be honest, I can only remember one against him. I can remember at least two or three. Which was a 90th minute one. I can remember two or three. Late 2000s. But now brilliant football. Great professional. Obviously at the club at the moment. I used to worry about who was going to take his place. Thankfully, Luke O'Dean suck it, and thankfully Leighton Baines was still there. I still got to see him, but it was a great transition. Not so much like my next defender, who I'm going to say, Shane was Coleman. Interesting. I was thinking, you know, I used to love Yobo. Not old enough to really appreciate him. I used to love Jagie Elker. Love Lescott. Love Sylvan Distan. But Coleman for me just got us. John Stones, no? I like Stones, yeah. Fearless Morrie? No, I don't like Fearless Morrie. Fair play. Quite a lot of good games, Fearless Morrie, but Coleman for me just because of the consistency over many years. It's just a shame now that, like I said with Leighton Baines, Morrie was going to take his place and obviously Luke O'Dean came in and it sort of transitioned Baines from starter to retirement very nicely. It was a nice, well it wasn't a nice farewell because we really wanted him to stay and it was a lockdown, but it was a nice sort of like, he's had a good end to his career, he scored that goal against Leicester, I won't remember that forever. But the Coleman I think, he was so great for so many years. Right back like him at the time when it was him and Baines flying up and down the pitch. They kind of shaped it, yeah? They were the first wingers, as fullbacks you could say, all the whip came from your fullbacks. And then obviously injuries happened, slowed him down, still a good right back, but at the age of 33 you should really have someone there to cover him and let him play a few games a season because when you put in too much expectations trying to play him every game and I don't think he can physically do it anymore and the frustration is coming out and making poor decisions in game, not having very good games so against Watford and stuff and now it's putting a bit of backlash in between them and their fans I think now as well, but forgetting all that is just a great, great right back. And a great goal scorer as well, he's scored some cracking goals. Score of great goals. Score of great goals. Yeah, that's what I meant to say. A scorer of great goals, the swans he once brings to mind. I think the thing with Coleman is his debut was a tough one away, he played left back, he got rins 5-0 and he had a tough night down there. Nobody took kindly to his first few games a day. I remember the semi-final against Liverpool playing on the right in midfield did he? Give the free kick away. Come on a shove, give the free kick away. Which they scored the winner from. But he got in to the side, he was 100% he still is 100% and now even though he's not at the same level and injuries have cost him that and he's played a lot of games and evidently have let him down really in terms of having back up for him and someone now to replace him so he's the back up. Being captain, he is captain now. Being there for so long to still be performing. He's been a fantastic. Of course, £6000. What a shining. Like Bains, my favourite players are always the best professionals and it's always like they're not on social media, they just go home, turn up at training and play the right out of the match. They're proper professionals, proper footy players and he lives and breathes football so proper good professional and he's a good player and a good role model for youngsters. He's a fantastic human being. It always annoyed me, I wonder, especially when he was 2012, 13, 14. Manchester United come for him three times and he didn't go. He's the same similar to Bains. If they bid the right amount of money and ever accept it then I'll speak to them. They didn't push for a movie. He didn't spit his dummy out of the pram and he wanted to do well with Everton and he still does, he wants to win the trophy. It'd be amazing for Everton, of course it'd be amazing, this is going to sound a bit stupid but it'd be amazing if we could win like the FA Cup and Coleman got to lift it. It's sad that Bains didn't. The real sad thing about it is we had Bains, Coleman and Jagielke who were all being at the club 10, 11 years. All should have had testimonials Bains and Jags having had them. And it should have won a trophy because they were fantastic footballers but brilliant savings for Everton Football Club as well. It'd be lovely for Seamus Coleman to experience winning a trophy still. He lives in the city, he hasn't got off to Manchester and Aldillietti and all that, he lives locally. His kids go to school in the city he's a lovely fella and all that. I really hope that Everton do the right thing by him and get another right back so that we can look after him a bit and he can still perform and if you look after him you might get another 18 months out of him as a back-up right back. It's no coincidence that people at Ireland are so highly of him as well and it makes me very proud. Does it? It's a role model of mine and it's sad to see him and the fans have a bit of it. I don't think the problem with Seamus is right and this is from my opinion but other people might have a different one. The problem is when you're a captain you feel everything but what you've got to do is put yourself in support with your eyes and he's the one who sometimes gets the brunt of it because he's the one who comes out and says we need to do this and we need to do that. He said after the Wolves game a couple of years ago he made a lot of great points and everyone was like absolutely spot on but then nothing really changed they're still making the same mistakes so people are getting bored with rally cries they're getting bored with different things. He had an issue the other week against Wafford because he didn't have a very good game. He played his part in the fourth and the fifth goal making the ridiculous slide tackles into two of our players but then he went over to fans like trying to apologise and all that but people were raw, people were fuming with what had gone on just going a little clap and walking off the pitch and you've got to know that separation sometimes you've got to know to go we haven't played well and we've let down people down today and me clapping my hands and going over trying to apologise ain't going to change it they're not going to go alright James because people were fuming the same at Wolves the first half display at Wolves was terrible and people were walking around and I think you've just got to be careful I don't think it's sulli the fans' view, the fans love him and he was good against space he played defensively, he was good against space so I don't think it's sulli there I think he's just got to be aware that people are very frustrated people want more progress than they get and sometimes you've got to be able to go like to get myself off this pitch and next week we won't be as bad Go on take it out on your team mates He's probably frustrated as well though isn't he he was best anyone maybe a right back would have sorted some problems anyway, he's been a fantastic a very good servant brilliant player who's your first Miffiel player he's not been picked yet by anyone on the podcast and it's addressed again a gay I can't believe how underrated he was underrated still is the most hard working player of one of the most hard working players I've ever seen play for Everton he was just such a great player full of energy never stopped running I don't think anyone ever made more tackles I'd love to see like a I'm sure he must be like the highest have the highest tackles in the team because he was just not getting stuck in constantly constantly all game in the ball proper ball winner I used to argue with people all the time especially in school say ghan is better than can say look look at the tackles a million I wanted people to put some respect on his name because he was so good my favourite type of player is a proper box to box full of energy because that is Premier League energy, pacy wasn't rapid but he was just full of energy he could get round the pitch so calm on the ball you could have trust in him if you're playing out from the back he won't get the ball and do something stupid so well disciplined I just love a player who gets stuck in when you see a player who's not like he wasn't big or anything he was 5'9, 5'10 or something he wasn't like a big like Decori or something but he's still just getting stuck in winning the ball and winning all his 50-50s I think he's one of those players that when he went people appreciates it how good they've been we've placed them have we even when we knew he was leaving in January no one was kicking up a fuss no one was going mad I was a bit upset but I think let's just get the last I remember we kept all of him in January till then he was like he's staying thank god let's get the last few months out of him and he was brilliant and he deserved his move to PSG and it shows how I remember signing from Villa and they went down and me and me signing I hadn't watched him I think it was 13, 14, maybe 15 I was about 15 when he signed and I wasn't watching Villa I wasn't spending my time watching Villa on a weekend so I was like so you didn't know him personally? I didn't know him personally I was just like why have you signed him and then my uneducated views on football was just completely changed because he was just so so good I saw a stat, I mean I'd seen I'd be full of four in the League of Legends and there was nobody at the time they were terrible, they didn't lay a glove on us they were so passive Was that the team where they played the kids and the kids, their own kids beat them or was that Newcastle? They were really, really bad with me They were so passive and then we beat them 3-1 at their ground and they asked to come on as a sub and we beat them comfortably at Villa and he played in that as well and I didn't notice him either and then Steve Walsh bought him and Steve Walsh gets a lot of steak but he was a hell of a signer He made some good signing Steve but I had to look at the stuff at the time and his stats were incredible and a lot of Villa fans didn't really write him they were like, his second touch is a title and he's this and he's that he came into us and he was absolutely magnificent I think Villa got him from Leal He played at number 10 earlier in his career and near the end of his time he had everything silver allowed him to get forward a bit more and he was good I think I'd love him in the midfield now I was happy at the midfield 3 of Alan, the Coray and Ghana I think you'd have a very good midfield It gave me close when he went to PSG because it was like I loved him I didn't want him to leave but I always for years was saying he's so underrated he doesn't get talked about like he does but he's moved to PSG for a good fee as well I was like, I'm so happy He's scored a couple of bangas this season He's scored on the Champions League hasn't he? He's scored against CSC 2-1 whatever it was I was so happy that he got his move to PSG and he's in his 30s now isn't he? He's 33 and still smashing He's still brilliant I know the one who worked quiet off the pitch but he's brilliant footballer than he deserves Who's your second midfielder? I had a bit of a think about this and I was thinking like I've said before I love good professionals I love people who get stuck in and battle and work hard I was going to say plays like Tim Kale, James McCarthy but I wanted to put a bit of Garth Barry I was going to say Garth Barry also but I think I want to put a bit of a controversial one out I don't think he's controversial as in he's not a bad player The player is Abdelhaid-Decore I think he's absolutely unbelievable Like I said with the gay I love a player who's just box to box so energetic because it's proper that's Premier League football He's fantastic Abdelhaid-Decore The only thing I'm going to say is we've only seen obviously one season off him and a few games and that one season I don't think we used him right We used him in a more defensive role I think Watford played at times when he was at Watford he played two behind him and let him get higher at the pitch and he's just a great footballer Benita has given him a bit more than the season and he's been one of our best players He scored three goals already and had two assists already and obviously he's out of the middle he's a huge miss when he's not in our team The Premier League's always been the best players have always been the biggest, fastest, most energetic he's not the fastest but the most energetic because he's big and full of energy which makes him a quick player and I don't think Decore is technically the best footballer he's not got the best touch he's not the best passer of the ball but his physicality and his energy makes all that stuff go out of the window it makes him just a quick player I think he can do a bit of everything he's not at your right he's not at table he's not a great passer not a brilliant passer of the ball but he does a little bit of everything the amount of interceptions he gets the amount of balls he just nicks off people and we're away he's seen a Manchester United the energy to break from our corner to get up to the edge of the air box he's seen the ball into Andrews Tamsen he's just fantastic he's a goal against Southampton on day he's an absolute screamer Always impressed me for Watford as well I've never wanted them for a couple of years before they got them you're right against Watford you'd look at them and go everywhere wish we had them and we do have them imagine if you had him in the Felly you'd just been talking about before you'd feel with Alan the core has been brilliant you're right last season even though I still thought he was brilliant last season he wasn't in his natural position this year Benitez has realised that he actually is a box-a-box midfielder let him just go because he'll do the work he does the work of two men which is why I haven't struggled we played to it the start of the season in midfield he went Alan and it was fine he decided to play too when the core is not there the alarm bell would go off it shows how much as well we've slowed down massively on the counter and that's because he's been out the side the counter against Burnley for example when Damari Grace scored that ball was incredible 29 now isn't he 28, 29, 28 28, 28 so I think he was a bit better on the ball if he was technically a better player he'd be at the very top because he's physically just a great, great player and a good footballer but like I said if he had a world-class pass on him a much better touch always a bit better on the ball he'd be a much better squad behind he's a brilliant player hopefully he'll be out for four or five years because he's that kind of fit midfielder who can do a lot of stuff and get around the pitch but being a brilliant sign for everything definitely and then through in midfield we'll complement each other they'll be very busy I think they'll be a good pair who's your first attacker then your first forward so this one is a player that's more it's a nostalgic pick I wasn't really old enough to appreciate how good they were at football because he left and I wasn't even ten years old when he left I don't think it was like the Yak I used to do that when I scored at training and then people used to go no, the Yak the big Yak just a very nostalgic player it was obviously my childhood was watching the David Moyes team being sat at good assuming me hot dog and watching players like Pina, Yakubu, Keil, Joseph Yobo all my favourite players and Yakubu was just a proper proper goal scorer brilliant player and even when he wasn't in the game he'd give him a chance he'd always find the back of the net always in the right position and I was gutter when he left I remember watching him for Blackburn they were in black and red at the time and I was thinking he was still brilliant for my eyes anyway he had an injury didn't he and I think David Moyes had him go he came from I wanted him when he was at Portmouth to be honest to Pina he came from Machabi Haifa to Portmouth and was brilliant to Portmouth he was a dead strong member in the Gouldershire thinking oh my god I'd love him he scored a cracking goal at the street end he was turned and ran through smashed into the river then and then Middlesbrough Portmouth and it was like oh my god you know we could have had him there he was good for Bore and then David Moyes obviously was very impressed with him and when I bought him from Middlesbrough for 11 million quid which was quite a... it was a lot of money and for us it was a lot of money and he came in his debut at Bolton away I was there just got back from Florida went to Bolton and Andy Johnson were up front and he scored after about 10 minutes Johnson went through him square then he knocked it in he was just brilliant you just gave him a chance he was so calm in front of Gould remember his goal in Stoke where he just rolled it from one foot on to the other and just passed it into the net in the mocks and won a dab where he got slid and you just thought if you give him a chance he'll score I remember the 3-0 against Fulham and he scored a hat-trick and it was absolutely he'll score Ffidd iaachon iaachon he will score I don't want to sit in and sing a whole song but he was brilliant that was my challenge it's their goal in that he goes to shoot with his right foot I was sat in the main stand with the top balcony and I was 8 years old freezing with a hot dog it was December time wasn't it he scored the header off a flick on in the corner he was like I love them again the strikers he was caught with goal at home where he gets played over the top and he just sends, I think it's Sol Campbell he just cuts past them and smashes it in to the roof of the net to make it 3-1 same game killed on the aisle he was brilliant that first season he got 20 odd goals one of 22 goals superb season and we come back the next season and you're hoping that he's going to be just as good I remember he lost the first game of the next season to Blackburn around 3-2 and then he scored at West Bromnerwick later but the first few months of that next season he just for whatever reason he wasn't playing well and he wasn't scoring enough goals and then he got the injury he had taught them jumped for it and landed and snapped his Achilles and that was him done where do we finish that season now finished 5th the year it was the year we got to the Cuff Final so we done the injury in 2008 November away at Spades I think we won 1-0 we beat them 1-0 with a deflection but he got shredded off and he was out for the season that year we lost him we lost that Tete we lost E-Cube it needed being that we lost Jags and we got to the Cuff Final finished 5th all of those players 5th for the season we had E-Cube, Louis Sahara Louis Sahara was there wasn't he he had a good season though Sahara he scored a brace against Westam didn't he he was good don't get me wrong Sahara was good but if you would have had E-Cube don't forget pre injury E-Cube was incredible and we ended up losing those players Sahara scored after 25 seconds but I'm not having E-Cube there we had a few games where we had Sahara and E-Cube up front as well so you would have had the goals but yeah I remember he'd done a lot of rehab and he came back a hole in a league cup tie after he'd been offered over a year we scored and he ran to Mick Rathbone he'd obviously done the work with him to get on back he played in the Derby when we beat Liverpool last time we beat Liverpool he played and smashed his armarellas onto the floor 2-0 he was one of the most comfortable derby matches I've ever witnessed we won it at an absolute canter and the best thing was the next day Roy Hodgin said that's as good as we've played all season talking about Liverpool and we'd absolutely I walked out of Goulders in that day disappointed that we didn't stick 5 on them because they were that bad do you mean Beckford had come on on the roof and instead of smashing it in it landed on the top of the net it was that easy they had an awful team then they wouldn't have leaked up that team all that Liverpool team we played a year later did it some reason we beat last goal we scored we beat Stoker home we scored at the park we'd been brilliant against Liverpool we played Stoker home the next week he scored the winner and we had Blackpool away the next game and he dropped them and put Sahara and I couldn't understand why and I think we ended up drawing the game of Blackpool 2-2 we batted them I think it ended 2-2 for 1-1 and he dropped Jack and he went for Sahara and then Ycubu couldn't get back in the side he was coming on as sub and he got to January and he said to Moise I want to play and Moise said I prefer Sahara so he went to Blackpool I couldn't believe how we just let him walk out the door and when I interviewed at the place he was sitting with a few years ago just done a quick interview he was like unbelievable I just wanted to play he said I just wanted to play for everything he said the manager made his decision he said I didn't want to sit on the bench and Blackburn scored 18 goals I think he got stupid a man for the end of the season and then they signed him in the summer and he got 18 in the next season Who was the manager of Blackburn then? I don't know whether it was Aladais it might have been Sam but he was brilliant I still loved him he was a great footballer a great goalscorer 36 the other week 36 really? he must be about 38, 39, 40 or something at least 36 so he was like mid 20s when he left he always looked about 40 38 that's still scandalous he always looked about 40 that's all he said unbelievable no lovely guy there's a lot of forwards that I'm nostalgic about I used to love Andy Johnson love Louis Ahart I loved Jermaine Beckford for the short time he was here I remember the goal against Chelsea he was an other one we'll guarantee another one now Beckford what did you make of him just very briefly because I thought we got him free from Leeds he come in scored 10 goals scored against Liverpool scored twice against Chelsea the counter was brilliant I still don't even know why he left because I think Moise didn't think he worked hard enough which is fair enough I think we got 3.4 million so we made money on it he bounced around different clubs didn't he I remember hearing of him a couple of years later he was like in a championship or something I was like what's happening to him he was great Jermaine Beckford good player but Yakub who's like the most nostalgic one for me brilliant player and a great professional he goes for an underrated Lou Cacou best striker I've ever seen it's a fair comment when he was playing for Everton I didn't moan about him he couldn't be frustrated at times by the way but it just shows how ungrateful I suppose but I used to moan all the time he's too isolated way too upfront get back too close put Morales off him or something he's too isolated and you look back and he still scored so many goals but then the problem with him he scored 20 goals a season we finished 11th because he'd scored 2 or 3 and we could see in 3 or 4 I remember did he score a brace or a hatchwick against Stoke I'm sure to say the Stoke game he got 2 you got 2 and we'd lost 4 too didn't we we went in 3-2 with 5 minutes to go I remember the look on his face which was like I'm fed up with this I looked at him when it he still stayed I think when it went 3-3 I think when it went 3-3 he was stood on the half way line with his hands on his hips he was like that as if to say I'm scoring all the goals and you're asking about with it and then 2 minutes later John Stones decided to throw a sheep at tackling in injury time and give a penalty away and he won 4-3 but now Lukaku was absolutely unbelievable scored a lot of goals even when he was isolated Chelsea at home Chelsea in white in 2016 and he was on the left wing and just surged into the box and finished it he was a big lad and he was fast but he was also technically really good footballer I think that's why and obviously a great finisher that's why he's placed with the top clubs and why he won the league in Italy I remember against Pallis at home it was Cuman's first season and they were in yellow and there were three kicks and he set it up and I was like what and he just curled in I used to get frustrated with him at times I don't think we played very well they always seemed to perform for a good few years they'd come to gooderson and get twice, three, two, didn't they? Balasi and Traharad Balasi that night almost but no I used to get frustrated with him at times my issue with Romelu Lukaku was at times he was lazy at times but we just left him on his own but my issue was more his bitching when he'd go away on international duty and he was always talking about the Champions League and all the games changed some people don't have a problem to be honest I guess it's whichever way you look at it you can look at it and go that ambition but I wanted them to be saying I want everything to get in the Champions League and I I never felt it might just be him but I never ever felt like he loved everything now he might tell me different do you know what I mean? but I always felt like we were just a stepping stone and even if you are looking for a Charleston like we might be a stepping stone for the Charleston we might be the biggest love the Charleston ever played so we don't know but at least he interacts and he loves it and he gives it all now he moves on and I just wish Rom would have been a little bit more like that because I think more people would have talked to him but in terms of a goalscorer and as a footballer he was absolutely brilliant I don't normally like seeing players leave and do well and I wasn't happy when he left and the hate that he went to United was a hate United but I was like when I was seeing him getting slated and he was really poor it was nice to see United be crap but it was heartbreaking to see him not do well or to see Rashford getting played over him no I loved him though and I remember when he celebrated he scored and celebrated against us that was a kick in the teeth and the nuts all in one but then went to Italy and I was so happy lost a bit of the timber smashed it and I was like yes he's doing it and he's doing it in another league that's the best thing even if he smashes it in for Chelsea I think he'll be brilliant for Chelsea I think once she kind of clicks I think once she fully clicks once she fully clicks I think he'll be brilliant for them Did he score one against Arsenal or two? because if he scored one he should have had another one then because he had a basically didn't he have one dish allowed and he had one dish allowed and he had one under the bar against Arsenal and he just went and it hit the crossbar he scores goals though brilliant brilliant brilliant that's a good team so your team, Coleman and Bangers your defenders garnet and decories in the field is in your cube, you can't go up front that's not a bad side I'm sort of modern side but I'm 21 years of age I'm not going to come and say Paul ride out and no listen you could have you could have said Duncan Ferguson you could have said dish but you'd love to have them in your squad two of them are retired one of them is only just retired that's still be a good five side team now or six side team sorry that's a good side though so we've done your Everton side your ultimate Everton side so now you're going to give me your best six Premier League players that you've seen and the Evan doesn't necessarily mean that you're amazing against Everton but just who you've seen and witnessed over that time yeah the same what we did with Evan the same with this team if you had to pick a goalkeeper to go in this side who would be the best goalie you'd say that you've seen in your playing in the Premier League the first one that jumps to mind is David De Hayer but only for like for a few years he was so good remember the game in 2015, 2016 Arsenal but they should have scored about 17 goals that's the one where they had a shot and then got up and made another save obviously I don't know what's happened to him so good would have to be David De Hayer no one else really springs to mind Pettichec was really really good and when he went to Arsenal won them about 10 points I thought they'd be when they got him I thought they could win something here I'll talk about them a bit later on because I've got someone in the team David De Hayer I'm not going to say shame what's happened to him because I hate United but for him personally I don't know him personally but I hope he does get back to himself but I'm going to do something if he moves on ever alright I thought you said who do you think I was going to say David De Hayer I didn't know what he'd say I was thinking Edison but David De Hayer is not a bad show because he has been an excellent goalie never always had the best defenders in front of him no no it has coincided for him with United being not as strong as you should be ok your first defender John Terry don't know him personally and I don't like him as a person but you don't know him personally so you can't say you don't like him personally but that's not what it is David De Hayer to talk about his football but his footballing ability brilliant leader of men he got to look out of a team wasn't playing and Joseph Amarino came back putting back in a team and he won the league because he was so good he was a brilliant defender and so consistent very good leader always bot against Everton John Terry John Terry was a like a top draw defender he was like throw his body away no nonsense but always rallying around a times questionable personality but as a defender this is difficult when you're doing these things anyway because the amount of plays you leave out of course you do Terry for winning trophies and stuff with Chelsea and when I watch Everton if we're getting battered I don't go he's so good for them or they're just really good I just go we're really crap but then there's plays you can't help much just to appreciate and some of these are ones that I really appreciate especially playing obviously you're always going to pick plays for big teams because I don't watch a lot of Villa games or anything like I said before but obviously I watch a lot of Chelsea games and John Terry is a very very very good player he was good so if you got alongside them I've got Vincent company oh shout I don't think he's talked about enough I know when people say oh the van dyke argument we're saying oh vidich is better or John Terry and company was company was great and for a good few years and he was a great captain if you watch the Amazon Man City documentary he was a great personality don't know him personally but great personality another proper tank clear lines but he was also obviously part of the modern game really good on the ball as well they played me field as well for city so he was and one of the few that were there before she managed to take over I love his goal celebration as well I remember when he towards the end of the season I might have been against United might have been at the first time they won it I was just screaming and then the third goal against Leicester was it 1-1 or 2-1 1-0 to stop them to win the league as well it won in the league that goal I was watching it and it seemed like it was miles out I was thinking and he just went smash it and the other ones that normally just go and it just went and then there's obviously like then he played in the cuff and he was brilliant in that that was his last game I watched his testimony as well on Sky because there was a few players, Tim Kato was playing Arteta was playing unfortunately he wasn't playing I remember he was not playing because he was injured he was playing manager at the time was he just manager now or was he or coach the big thing with Vincent Cove he was he got injured he had a couple of years where he just couldn't get it near the end of his career a couple of games he'd come back and last about 20 minutes and go off and was out for three months again and he was devastated and it was horrible to see because for a few years he was just unbelievable brilliantly built good sportsman as well good on the ball I think he's very intelligent if he doesn't stick with management I can see him being a director of football and running clubs because he's got that persona about some very calm softly spoken but knows what he's doing he wasn't like nasty as well he was a nasty footballer but he wasn't like a nasty person he had a good battle or something and after the battle he'd be like to succeed at that level you've got to have that in you and he had the winning mentality you don't win what he did with City if you haven't got that winning mentality great captain he's the most recent player when you say best Premier League captains he's the most recent player I can think of the best captain I don't think there's been since then there's been many like captains but they're not like when you think of your Roy Keans John Terry Vincent Cymru is the most recent proper leader okay into midfield quite a few city players in this team David Silver footballer unbelievable footballer playing social either no not itself of ego no not itself of ego it's severe isn't it oh it might be social dad I think it's real social dad yeah it might be social dad unbelievable player it's like 5 foot 7 or something and he's not rapid never really like he used to play on the wing a lot for City I was correct thanks 35 absolutely fantastic like I said he played on the left a lot he was always in a massive amount of space he was 5 foot 7 he wasn't strong and he wasn't rapid I think he was strong because he wasn't quick he had quickness of thought he wasn't a sprint he wasn't a big lad he wasn't fast and he wasn't but what he was was unbelievably technically brilliant on the ball one of the best I've seen wiggle his way for little spaces find himself a massive amount of space passing was brilliant free kicks were brilliant and for those years he was linking up with Aguero unbelievable player scored some great goals and most importantly for me a brilliant professional never wanted to leave never spoke about leaving never had any trouble off the pitch like a lot of City players no City when they first won that first league these players are going to go to Barcelona on your armadrid but they stayed for years they loved the club and none of those players were like here in the city when they were growing up or even when they were playing so they go and spend their career at City when they could have easily gone to Barcelona on your armadrid so professional they built something great they went there and built something together because of people like company and obviously because of Pep Guardiola Soriano and all of those people you know Degistan and all of those people who were there he built that thing together and he was David Silver just unbelievable football left foot one way the other goals assists work hard absolutely fantastic Always boss against Everton as well I haven't thought about putting Zabelletta in over John Terry just because it's a City team but I've got to be John Terry hasn't it it's okay who's your next one with David Silver when I said when I said I like midfield is a big energetic get around the pitch good going forward good defensively when I said Decore was a bit technically better than the football he could be like because he's big energetic fast load of stamina great defensively great going forward but Yaya had the passing and the shooting he scored some griggles out of the box he was the most underrated midfielder I know in the Premier League era and people still rate him I remember that 2014 season he scored a lot of goals and he got a lot of assists and it's not talked about enough because he was so good he just picked the ball up he'd win it because he was great defensively and he'd just surge forward and he'd just smash it from outside the box when Liverpool to slip Denver Bar and all that he was the reason city he got them going and got big goals for them great great player I think even the last game of the season I think he beat Westam 3 I think it was that he won 3-0 or something on the last day I think he scored the first goal he was fantastic he played for Barcelona didn't he and you never really heard of him from he was Barcelona time really? he was young, he worked for Barcelona and he was incredible he was a shock that city got him he was amazing for Barcelona and people were like his brother was good at that time he got him so yeah so he was a special footballer my favourite type of footballer got a stati there isn't he and there's silver as well isn't he absolutely fantastic so what a player, goals he had everything I love a player okay, striker, first striker my first striker is Alexis Sanchez and he's the thing right Sanchez you say I'm a young lad I miss a lot of Premier League greats or wasn't old enough to appreciate them obviously watch plays like Van Persie and Grogberg but Alexis Sanchez I used to watch him thing Wayne Rooney I thought I was going to say Wayne Rooney but because he played for Everton I thought I wanted completely maybe I should have said Wayne Rooney but I wanted this Sanchez and I was just thinking when Arsenal signed when I've watched Harry Kane he's been crap against us and he was crap on Sunday brilliant normally I don't like him though when they signed Peter Cech and Alexis Sanchez was let's not forget he was really really good he was a brilliant footballer he was great for Arsenal fast he was great on the wing great up front he was small but he was like a little dog bit like a big rottweiler bit like a big rottweiler and I thought they were going to win the league I think it was the league less to Wayne and they signed Peter Cech and thought he'll win him ten points of season and with Alexis Sanchez I thought at the time along with Hazard is one of the best things in the league I thought they've got to win the league and then he went to United and like I said before I hate United but even to see him as a footballer just be great I was like that's such a shame because he was such a good footballer and I felt sorry for him I never liked him when he played against Everton but when I look back I think it's a shame that he didn't go and win the league or something and United just had them off he went into Milan and it's just a shame that he wasn't the same because he was so good and better than McHatterian who went to Arsenal but yeah great one of the best players I've watched for certainly that Arsenal team I thought he was going to win the league along with Peter Cech for that extra ten points of season and he remembered he'd been Liverpool in a game in Liverpool really good and he's going to absolutely melt us and he was brilliant he was brilliant he was brilliant to Udenizie he was brilliant for Barcelona and he was brilliant for Arsenal and Liverpool nearly signed him didn't he Liverpool wanted him and he wanted to go to London so he went to Arsenal and was great there and he moved made the wrong choice so whatever left Arsenal and went to United United did that thing that he'd do with people he signed them and he don't know what to do with them he signed them and it took him a while to score and he didn't use them right and he was in and out and before you know it he picked up an injury and all of a sudden the pressure was on him and you weren't using him correctly I thought he should have gone to City well he should have gone to City but United came in with a bigger bid and blew City out of the water and paid more money I think at the time we weren't prepared to give him but United were prepared to give him there's a lot of more obvious choices I could have gone for course I just wanted to have it if you liked him and thought he was the best when I think of best plays I've seen I just think he was there's no further there's no further words needed Alexis Sanchez is one of your strikers so complete your team who's the other striker Sergio Aguero best striker of my era Bannon the only goalscorer above him were Andy Cole Wayne Rooney and Alan Shearer obviously Wayne Rooney had watched Alan Shearer too young Andy Cole too young Aguero and Aguero was I think he's ended up I think he's six behind them in the end forgetting them at the top three fantastic and again he's had injuries he's had injuries he was only seven goals behind Andy Cole was the one above him seven in the end he's scored two against us he's probably five he ended up six five or six off it but if he'd have had the season that last season where he wouldn't have been injured he'd have ended up probably been in that top three scored the most iconic goal in the Premier League era Aguero exactly to take the title off your rivals in Gilly time having been to Wandawe in the 90th minute to then win a three two unbelievable finisher proper fox in the box strong small but strong and not the fastest but no quick link up with David Silver was brilliant and a very very good professional and after watching that documentary he's a nice guy don't know him personally but he seems a nice guy you know he's related to Diego Maradona he's not related to Maradona he's got to go out with his daughters he's just father-in-law and Messi was cousin he's something he met Messi they were both in the Argentina youth squad and Messi was like this amazing like prospects really really young I'll tell you how they met they were sat in a canteen for the Argentina youth team they were like 15 or something Messi was like this he's going to be amazing when he's a professional and they were sat on this table got like talking and then someone said to him Lionel Lionel Messi are you that kid he was like yeah I'm that kid he was meant to be amazing and that's how they hit off that's Sergio Aguero that's all that story on some TV channel so I think it's correct and I see a lot of hide completely I don't know give us an old range over a vote to the kick man at Man City when he left as well did he wow unbelievable footballer had a bit of a nasty shrieking in him which is always a good thing I remember when he stamped on David Louise I think that's that that will to win is it top players have it but he was like we said unbelievable goal scorer unbelievable striker city bottom and he was about 23 a thing from athletic home he'd come in for about 30 million scored a hat-trick against Swansea 2012 or 2011 sorry it was a Monday night football first game of the season they won 4-0 and he got a hat-trick and he wasn't even what did you mean to go on? they played him with an injury not up to full fitness and he's got a hat-trick and he's like what's he going to do when he's faint that's what I'm going to do because they have had some incredible strikers falcal he started as a number 10 it's the size of him isn't it they didn't know whether he'd be able to play in a wall because he's only like 5 for 5 fantastic footballer it's a good side John Terry Vincent Cumpney David Sylviaill Alexis Sanchez Sergio Aguero good side would cause a lot of people problems if that was a six a side so there you go who do you think would win the six a side Everton team or picked the other six a side? the Premier League they have it on the side not bad they give them a go but I think goal scorers are in both teams aren't they? my team is very physical I just tell them Coleman and Baines I feel like might struggle against Sanchez and Aguero but be interesting there you go that's Ned's ultimate team his ultimate Everton team his ultimate Premier League team you can play ultimate fan the link is in the description free to play the team a six there's also subscription packages as well £2.99 a month for the silver £4.99 a month for the gold you can win generally a prize £5,000 each game you get a portion of it if you get the points so check that out let us know what you think of Ned's teams and we'll be back next week on ultimate team podcast see you later