 Well, after I did 10 years at Fort Mackay, I had my company very small at the time, and I had a cousin, a cousin family running my business, like I had one piece of equipment, then the one piece of equipment grow into five piece of equipment. It started in 97, 98. By 1999, 2000, I had four or five piece of equipment. Then, then I, then me and Nicole went in full, full time with our companies. We had to design our jobs where we were working for hours with Mackay and Nicole as a sell and run our business 100% in 2004. Then that's where we kind of go to company from when we started our company full time. Now for someone who comes, let's say who's listening to this and is completely outside of Fort Mackay, Fort McMurray, the industry, what does Boucher do? What does your company do? Our company does a lot of civil work, a lot of road maintenance. We're involved in facility maintenance. We have contrasts in five different sites, like Curl, and the CNRL, Suncor Fort Hills, RMWB, the city of Fort McMurray, and Suncor Faribay.