 Having such a status within Islam being known for herself rather than her lineage, her father, husband, etc. What lessons do you think our younger sisters could take from her life as an example, from her modesty, from her teaching, from her socio-economic works, from her sermons? Where would you recommend that a sister or even a brother listening now should go and start to try and better understand who she truly was and what she truly meant to the Muslim ummah? I think firstly, approachability. I think that's something missing in our communities today. And I think the father of Zara'a, everybody found that she was approachable. Now, someone might say, hold on, let's talk about her knowledge. Let's talk about the simple approachability. This is the daughter of the man seen as God's greatest creation and his final messenger. She could easily have stiff upper lip, arrogant. You can't come talk to me. I don't know you. Don't come talk to us if you're not at this level or you're not from this family or you know, we have chaps out there like that. Now, with Father Zara'a, there's an unbelievable approachability. When you look at the way people talk about someone, those who've lived with them, those who've seen them in their most difficult moments, you realize what they are. You look at the way, say, the filth that talks about Father Zara'a, that she would tell me, filth, go rest. Today's my day. Tell me today. I can't imagine someone from a massive, you know, well-known royal family out there. I can't imagine them saying to one of their servants, you know, they have many of these servants they bring from the far East, Philippines and Malaysia, Indonesia. Sometimes they bring from Bangladesh. And you see them sometimes, you know, running after their fat kids. These guys can produce a football, not a child. It's a round ball that's walking on the earth. And you see these poor, far Eastern servants picking them up. Well, I can't pick up someone like that. I'll break my back sincerely. And yet you'll see them picking up these. Now, being mistreated by the kids, or recently they showed one king of one particular royal family in the Middle East who was beating everybody around him. You know, Arab Bedouin is a Bedouin. They remain a dog forever. But when you're looking at Fatima Zara'a, for her, she is the royalty of this religion. But she tells someone like, say, the father, don't worry, today's my day. Believe you me, there are those out there who do maga, listen to the honor of Fatima Zara'a. They'll have a servant at home. You can never, never will they imagine, listen, that you are going to do it one day and I'll do another. No, impossible. Some don't even let them come near them and sit in their gatherings or eat on the same table. Fatima Zara'a, peace be upon him, approachability is something wonderful. Because you can have all the knowledge in the world, but not an approachable person. Abrasive, foul mouth. But when Fatima Zara'a, peace be upon him, has all of that, yet say the filth, asma'a bint umais. Look at the way she, you know, glosses on the life of Fatima Zara'a, peace be upon him, constantly in praise of her behavior and her humility. That lady who came to ask Fatima Zara'a a question about Salam, and I've had these moments where someone says, can I just ask you one question, say it, and you're like, yeah, yeah, sure. About 25 minutes later, everybody's asked about 40, 50 questions, and then someone says, You're one of those guys myself. Come up to say it, no, can you answer it? So I think when that happens, that lady realizes that I've asked a few questions too many. And she asks Fatima Zara'a, I'm sorry that I've asked that many questions. And then she replies with this unbelievable reply. She says that if Allah, if someone said to you, that if you carry something to the top of that mountain, they'll pay you this many dinar, for example. Would you do it? Said yes. Said Allah will reward me with a lot more thawab for answering these questions. In our communities today, sometimes when a revert joins our community, sometimes the approachability factor hurts them because they look around and they're wondering, you know what, I can't really see anyone who's looked at me in a way where they've said, you know what, come welcome, come sit with us. And we actually have groups in the Muslim community where if you want to be part of that group, they've got to first rubber stamp you before you can come and sit in their gatherings. And this happens with the brothers and the sisters. Both who claim to love Fatima Salaam, that you know what, I see someone new. I don't go up to them and say, how are you? What's your name? I've not seen you before. Is there any way we can help you in your approachability? She's unique. Secondly, speaking out against the injustice of her time. She could have remained silent. She's say that Nisa Al-Alamin, me and you have just discussed this. But she speaks louder than the other three. There's something unique. Sayda Khadija spoke out against, but in her own unique Sayda Khadija, very, you know, royal-like manner. And Mariam, in her own way, tried to speak out against the arrogance of some of the clergy of her time. I see it was a one-on-one battle in reality with Pharaoh. Falima Zahra, no, I'll take on the establishment. I'm not scared. At the... Today, many of our daughters, young. Young age as well. Young age, 18 years old. And a lot of people don't realize that they think maybe she was 50, 60, 70, 18 years old. At that young age. Today, many of our daughters, may Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala help them, our sisters, our mothers, they're living at a time where it's so difficult to keep your hijab in terms of your social modesty and in terms of your physical modesty, the khimar they're covering. It's so difficult. It really is. For people like myself to come here and sit down and say, oh, you know what? All the sisters should be wearing their head coverings easy. It's not easy. It's difficult times. But it's at times like this where you hold on to Fatima. Because she saw a certain oppression take place where all of a sudden the pre-Islamic Arabian culture of woman not inheriting was now back. The Arab Bedouins were now in power. And she could easily stay quiet. But no, I'm not going to stay quiet. I'm going to speak out against injustice. Because if injustice anywhere as Luther King used to say, there's a threat to justice everywhere. Injustice anywhere? There's a threat to justice everywhere. There's a threat to justice everywhere. She would not remain silent. And that brings the anger of those at that time. I'm not surprised when I read in Sahih al-Bukhari certain narrations which mentioned that she wanted a secret burial. She did not want certain people at her funeral because she saw that I spoke out against your oppression. But what you did back to me is the biggest sign of hypocrisy. The other physical. So these two lessons, one a very achlari type lesson, another one a more social reform type standard that she said. I think these are two wonderful lessons that we can benefit from her. So what is the reason that her burial site is hidden out of interest? What is this difficult political time after the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and his family dies? And I think anyone who out there tries to gloss over this and say everything was rosy, well, you know, it's their day of judgment. I don't want to sit here and say that they're covering the facts, but I find it's amazing that in the books of all Muslims it mentions who she died angry with, who she didn't want at her funeral and that she wanted a secret burial and you'll still find Muslims out there will say that you know what, nothing really happened, people have disagreements. What did I say early on the show? I said the Quran said some messengers excel above others, some prophets above others. Why the Quran doesn't need to say this. I also said that the moment the Quran is saying this it's giving us an indication that our theologies are built around these principles. And that if the Prophet Muhammad himself peace be upon him and his family says Fathum is a part of me whoever angers her angers me. These are all indicators. Do you know that there were people who knew that it was such a powerful indicator that it was fabricating nonsense that the hadith Fathum is a part of me whoever angers her angers me is because Imam Ali angered Fathum at Al-Zahra. That Imam Ali supposedly went to propose for Juweiriya the daughter of Abu Jahl and in so doing what about the ayah and the anger of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa ala? And mind you if you look at the chain of the narrators of that tradition some of Ali ibn Abi Talib's greatest enemies are all subhanallah in one chain. But when Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa ala is saying Fathum is a part of me whoever angers her angers me theology is built on this because he's no longer saying my daughter now it's and whoever angers me angers Allah. So for someone to come and tell me well Fathum are being angry after Rasulullah died well sometimes you hear the following listen to the following reasons I've got to mention them on air sometimes you hear people saying oh she died because of depression listen we've all had difficult times but I don't think it necessarily led to our deaths and you're telling me the part of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa alayhi who her angers anger of Allah dies of depression then there's others who are like well you know what she wasn't a state of grief but nothing much further no no there are clear traditions that there was an intention to attack the house of Fathum some say but they didn't did they didn't they the names of those involved speak for themselves you've got to be someone who doesn't know the biographies for you to provide a defense for those who are involved because some of these guys came to Islam by slapping their sisters others of them have a track record of killing women others are from tribes such as Thaqif and Hawazin and Mahzoon these are vicious animal tribes who produce some of the most barbaric people so yeah it's extremely sensitive issue and some would ensure that it shouldn't be narrated because of its sensitivity and because of the bad light it puts certain supposedly great personalities in