 Big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, huh, it's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, huh, name another podcast like this, who gonna bring it to the table, boss talk, who your girlfriend favorite, boss talk, we gonna do it how you want it, boss talk, yeah, everybody on it, boss talk, it's a unique hustle. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy, E-CEO, and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Mr. Mako, what's going on? Man, hey man, hey man, I wasn't even planning this today, man, things just happen sometimes, sometimes you be on the right side of the road, man, somebody drops something, you pick it up, you a millionaire. You know what I'm talking about, holler at your boy, man, we got my boy baby C in the building. What's good? What's going on, man, what's cracking? None much, man. Man, you in the city? Yeah, I'm out here. Man, you outside? I'm outside. What you been doing, man, what you been doing since you hit the city? I been shooting videos, nonstop interviews, you know, just getting things in order. Yeah, well, hey man, so yeah, I seen you, I actually seen you, I think I seen you on Rain page where you was, you signed some paperwork, man, did you read that damn paper? What the hell did you sign? Yeah, everything was everything, you know, everything made sense, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, so I mean, can you get into it or is something that y'all posted it so evidently is something y'all wanted to be out there? What's going on? Basically, we working on building a foundation. Okay. You know, trying to make sure that you make the right steps building this foundation, right? How important is it to build a right foundation, man? And you know, music is something that everybody is trying to get into when you look, man, the masses are out here just, hey, you know, we getting into it, man, we going to make music, okay? What make you different from everybody else? I mean, you know, I'm just more consistent, you know what I'm saying? I really put my heart, everything to this, blood, sweat, tears, I got two kids, you know what I'm saying? I'm 20, so I really got to make it for them. If I don't make it, then that's just like, I'm just downfall on them, you know what I'm saying? No, I get it. I get it. So, I'd like to know a little bit about you from before the music, like from a young age. I know you say you're 20, but have you always wanted to be a rapper from your young coming all the way up? I was always a gifted person, you know, I was always, I was in church before I started any of this rapping and singing. I used to sing real good, you know what I'm saying? So, I was Lee's singing in two choirs. So, you can R&B sing? Like, I can sing. Okay, yeah, we could get a little song about this nigga. Can you go Acapolo? Yeah. That's what they call it, Acapolo? Do you know better than that? Yeah, you go Acapelaman. What's your favorite song? I done seen you beatin' on tables. Then I seen you beatin' on tables. You been locked up before? Never. What you doin' beatin' on tables and singin'? Don't you know that's the thing they do when they locked up? It's like shit, man. It was like, it really won't even meant like that. I just did it like out of nowhere. He gotta create a beat. Yeah, I'm cruel. I'm just tellin' you what nigga's doin'. I know about what nigga's doin' when they locked up and they... Yeah. Yeah, and then they go with it. Yeah, for sure. Y'all ain't nobody... Y'all ain't nobody can I get a witness? Nah, it's the truth. That's what they do. And so you just... But you love the music. Yeah, I love music very well. I really love music. I put everything to this. I'm still waitin' on that song before we go into anything else. What do you want me to sing? Like what's your favorite song? My song. Okay, go ahead. R&B song. Yeah, it's the song I just... It ain't no R&B song. I wanna R&B song. You can hear my voice, though. Go ahead, bro. Do what you do, man. I was like... You did me wrong, but I felt like you was right. Oh, is that right? But it's okay. I'm out your way. I'm gone tonight. Gonna take a flight from all these problems that I'm having in my life. I'm not all right fighting oppression and stress and losing my mind. Hey, man. So, man, that's dope, man. Hey, you got a different sound. Yeah, for real. You got a unique sound. Yeah. I like that. Do you get it from your mommy or dad? Anybody? He can sing. Yeah. Okay, that's cool. Man, I'm telling you, I like that, man. I felt that. Appreciate you. I ain't gonna lie to you. If it was Bunk, I'd just say, no, man. That ain't it, man. Yeah. Now, that right there. Hey, man, I love the... And it's what's going on. Like I said, you remember we was talking to Reds. And T-Rail was beginning to come on here, man. You got a cadence, man, that's... Right now, everybody doing this flow, right? Yeah. And everybody... You know what I'm saying? Like, I love it, man. Because you niggas don't want to go back to R&B. Now, y'all don't want to go back to R&B. That's where I'm at. But you niggas don't want to go back to R&B. Now, they don't want to go back to R&B. It's a new wave deal they're doing. They're not doing it. I know you want to go back to R&B. And I'm gonna R&B. You know, you thinking about Key Sweat and Bram and Nightnep. Now, all these niggas got something different going. You know what I'm saying? And I love it. You know, I love it, though. So, you did me wrong, right? That's the name of it. Yes, sir. What inspired that? Who did you wrong? You did me wrong. You didn't do me wrong, right? I mean, I really can't say, like, I was actually done wrong. It's just, like, it was on some shit. Like, it came in my head, like, shit. I was going through something and I was just in so much pain. You know, not very much pain, but it's like when I'm going through the most, I feel the right good music. You know what I'm saying? So it was like, shit, when I was in the living room, just turned the beat on and just started going, and the first thing that came to my head was like, you did me wrong. So I'm like, oh, shit, this shit gonna go crazy. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, oh, yeah, I gotta keep writing this. You know what I'm saying? So it was on some shit like that. And it was like, man, I ain't never expect, like, this to go so far. Like, it went crazy. I posted it on Instagram. I see the numbers looking good. I see the numbers, man. I see them. And then, you know, the audio version just doing 120,000 in a month on YouTube. No, but your voice sound unique. I thought I was going to get to talk to it. But anyway, man, so... But how old were you when you started taking the music? You just going to snatch the conversation? I'm going to jump in there. You're going to snatch it? Yes. Okay, go ahead. As we women do sometimes. Okay. So how old were you when you started getting really serious with the music? I was like 17, 16, 17. And what triggered you to get serious? It was like a passion, you know? It was something that I really wanted to do. You know what I'm saying? So I just put forth an effort into it and just put everything I had into it. You know what I'm saying? I used to do like little local shows and stuff like that. And just hearing other people telling me how good my music was just made me push even more. You know what I'm saying? And plus I'm from North Carolina. So you know it's a whole lot of talent down there. Oh, it is. Boy, them boys, y'all been getting busy. And they were the baby and all I'm from? Yeah, the baby here from Charlotte, yeah. Because I know sometimes in life, you know how like we dibble and dabble and stuff when we're young to try to figure out what our niche is. And then sometimes it takes for us to get serious somebody in that field to come to you who's bigger than you, come to you and be like, man, you really need to push this. Yeah, for sure. And that really make you to say, you know what? I'm going to do this. I was just wondering if, you know, somebody came to you. No, I'm like, not really like it was just on what I wanted to do, you know what I'm saying? Because I have always been gifted, you know? So it was like, shit, when I had stopped singing I just started looking for something else to do and rap found me, you know what I'm saying? So it was like, I just did what I had to do, you know? And it got me pretty far, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I did it, man. So off the top, man, what was that? You know, I see a year ago. So you dropped that. What was that? I have to talk. Like what was the song about? Yeah. It was basically on like, basically on like what I was dealing with in my city. You know what I'm saying? Like other things that I don't want to talk about, you know what I'm saying? But it's like, shit get real deep. Yeah, yeah. I'd heard your mother had gotten sick with counsel. 2011. How I remember it was because the Green Bay Packers and the Steelers was playing in the Super Bowl, you know what I'm saying? She was in the hospital at the time. Like that's exactly how I remember it, you know what I'm saying? Because they only been in the Super Bowl like what? Once or twice? Oh yeah, like 2011 was a hard year for me, you know what I'm saying? How did that affect your family? Like just like my... Because the four kids, right? Yeah. Four, three siblings? Yeah, but like my oldest brother, he was in foster care with my great-grandma. You know? So he really won't. In the family back then, until like later on, like after she got cured from cancer, that's when he moved back in with us, you know what I'm saying? But other than that, like it was just me. I was the oldest brother at the time. My big brother then is me and I got two little brothers. You know what I'm saying? So it was like shit. Everything fell on your shoulders. Yeah, everything just fell on my shoulders. But you know at the time I was still young. You know? So I had to mature more, you know what I'm saying? That taught me how to mature. And just that situation just taught me not to trust nobody. Yeah. You know, my mom passed away from cancer. When he said that then for a week, I got my mom had four children. And the good thing about your situation is at least you still got it because my mom, she passed away at 44 years old. Okay. And you know, it's all good, man. Because I mean when you go through something like that, it doesn't, you know, it's something that don't kill you, but it makes you stronger. And so we were younger. Me and my brother and sisters and my brother and one sister. So it was one girl. And the thing you got to realize, man, is you should take that as a blessing, man, and take every opportunity with your mother to, you know, to show appreciation, you know, whenever you get the opportunity. A lot of times we take things for granted. I see that a lot. Sometimes it touched me in a certain way when certain people, you know, manipulate or misuse or take their mother or their father for granted. Because a lot of people, I've had guests on here who never met their parents or mom died four months after they were born and dad died two months before they was born. And then they get shifted off to foster parents and all that. So it's a blessing if you're able to understand who you are, who your parents are, you know, and you've spent some time with them. So I think that's dope, man, for you to be able to share that with us. Thank you. You know what I mean? I hope you keep going with whatever God has for you, man. It's coming to you. Yeah, for sure. I appreciate it. That's one thing I can tell you. And he big enough for the job. He is. He's able. So that's the good thing, man. And I think a lot of times we don't understand how important it is to keep God seasoned. And it don't matter if you rap. It don't matter what you rap about. It don't matter what you're doing. Most people laugh at people a lot of times. They say, man, when they get up into a war show, they say giving all under the God. What the heck do you think we supposed to do? For sure. Like when you go through stuff, you got to give it up. Don't let it just be. Don't let it. Don't let it be like, oh, God, no, no. You can still do what you do. Yeah, for sure. Because you going through evolution as well, right? You move and you evolve it. So you're not where you're going to be right now. You're going to grow as you get older and as you go through things and God still love you where you at, bro. I'm already knowing. Like I'm a strong believer in that man, you know? You didn't do so much for me to the point where I can't stand when a person just be like, like, you know, like, say, for instance, like, it done been deaths in people, families and stuff like that, and they blaming on God. But it's like, how can you do that? You can't do that. That's when that's when they were supposed to go. You know what I'm saying? That was written in the book when they was born. You know? So it's like, you can't question him. Nothing, you know, because he can do he can do a lot of things like a whole lot of things to get you through your situation that a whole lot of people can't do. He's he's a real strong person, you know? That's right. Well, how? Go ahead. I know you had a question a while ago, right? No, I was going to say with the momentum that you're going through right now, where do you see yourself in another year? I see myself winning the Grammy in another year. Hey, another year. Well, I'll see if it won a whole Grammy. Yeah, another year. You just got to put the work in, you know, to get good things up out of it, you know what I'm saying? So that's what I'm doing right now. I'm just focusing on what I got to do to get my family straight. Man, that's dope, man. Do you have all the albums you're working on and other projects? Yeah, I got a project I'm working on right now. I haven't came up with a name for it right now, but it's going to be a real, real dope project. Coming out 2022? Yeah, like beginning of 2022. Okay, cool. Any features? I just did a feature last night with OTB Fazzlinger. I seen that. Wasn't it y'all post that? Yeah, I did one with him last night, and it go crazy. Where is he from? Houston. Houston? I've seen him on a picture with Tray and... Who else was on that damn picture? It was somebody else. I looked at it, I said, okay, we've all been in Houston in a couple of weeks. We hosting a show out there. Okay. Supposed to be running expensive and zero and some more people. But at any rate, man, you come in here. What make you say baby C need to be in Texas this week? Ryan. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, see, he got me up out of here. He got me out of here. How did you make the connection when you just found your internet? Yeah, he found me. You know, he hit me up, and bold letters like hit me up. I'm like, who is this? Ryan Water. I just went to View Profile Instagram. It was like, Texas Home, Mothries Manager. Yeah. This and that. I'm like, oh, this big. It is. So I hit him back. And after that, we just... I'm here. He go hard for his people. He go hard for the guys that... And that's one thing I pay close attention to. I deal with everybody. Yeah. He go hard for his people. And he gonna go hard for you. That's the one thing I can say. I vouch for that. From his past record of what he does, he's gonna go hard for you to try to figure it out for you. And that's the good thing about having a person behind you that really done did it before. Yeah, that's the fact. And you talented. Like I said, I hear it. I know why. It's easy to see why. Yeah. Right? So who would you like to work with? Like, if you had your choice of people to work with, who would it be? I think like Drake. Everybody say Drake. Everybody say Drake. That's the first thing. That's cause they know that's gonna get them all away. They ain't got time to play. That's gonna get them all away where they need to go. Yeah. Think about this. I just left my other interview. She asked me the same question. Really? And I was gonna say like, well listen, think about it. If you spend half a ticket to get a Drake feature or a Lil Wayne feature when you put the song out, the people see who on the song you gonna get half of your money back that you just spent. For sure. This is right house. And plus there's notoriety because these are legends we talk about. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That people really look up to in the rap game or the industry. You know? So it's like, shit man. I'm trying to do everything that's gonna put me there. You know, I'm young. So I can experience a whole lot of things other than people that's just getting into the rap industry. And they like 28, 30 years old and trying to rap. Like, you know, like they should have been there that, you know. They see us young cats out here just doing our thing and prospering and stuff like that. Then they wanna fall and leave. It's too late for it. You know, not saying like you can be, not saying you can't be 30 years old and just blow off your first song, but it's too late for that. You about to, you damn near ready to be 40 years old. I mean, That's true. You should have been there that, you know. Mm-hmm. You know, Did you do a video while you was there? Yeah, I did. Two videos. Two videos? Oh man, I like it. I like that, man. Working. Working. So Top 3 Audits of All Time did all live. Any genre? Top 3 Audits of All Time did all live. Who is baby C? Top 3. That rhyme, nigga. I might need to get a mic. Yeah. And hang it from the damn roof. No. Who is baby C? Top 3. Let it go. Number one. Biggie Smalls. I like Biggie Smalls. Yeah, I love Biggie Smalls. Why? Because, I mean, he was just a stand-up guy. You know, like I'm young, so I really don't know too much about him. But as far as like his music history, I've been watched his movie and stuff like that. Like, he was really, I don't know how to put it. Like, it's like, he was in a struggle, so he tried to get it together for him and his Mardukes. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Anything that he had to do to get money, he did it. You know? That's how I feel. Like, he was a good dude. Mm-hmm. Just how I see him. Black, ugly, whatever, however. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? Gucci Down to the socks. That boy there, listen to a man, seen him flip that song with R. Kelly. I seen him do a lot of different things, man, when he came down to his hustle in the time period that he'd done. And it wasn't long, but when he'd done it, he came on with it. Mm-hmm. It wasn't no games, you know? The boy had a rappel. Yeah. Yeah. Flipping them words. Yeah. Golf in the booth with no paperwork. Just go in there and just run off with it. Yeah. You know, the guy was dope, man. Really? So tell me. Number two. Oh. You stop playing. Stop playing. Number two. Number two. I got to say his rival, Tupac. Tupac. Yeah. Got to say his work. Tupac, man. Tupac is another one that you really... What can you say about Tupac? You know what I mean? Tupac was one that both of them had some crazy names to their music. Don't you do that, boy? Don't you do not do the damn name they was doing because this is what... I seen it early on. I see death around the corner. Got to stay high in the city where the skinny niggas die. All this... Yeah, man. It's all about death. Oh, yeah, man. Everything about... Yeah, demise of death or biggie, you know, ready to die of them, you know. All these things are things that you don't need to be playing with because there's power in the tongue. For some. So when you say something, understand that it can happen because that's how I believe God created earth and heaven. Things. You speak before you do anything that you do. As soon as you say it, you go do it. I'm going to go to the stone. I'm going to go up to the old girl near my house. Say, man, we about to do such, such, such, such. Yeah. Yeah, you create with your words. Yeah, for sure. So you got to be very, very careful with what you say and how you say it. And if you say it, you got to be willing to stand on it. Right? Yes, that's a fact. So what you was about to ask, because you said you want that number three. Okay. Number three. Lil Wayne. We as the F babies, please say the baby. And you didn't put Drake in there. Please say the baby. The baby. That nigga say, if you mention Pock and Biggie and Jay-Z, don't forget to mention baby. That's what that nigga say. Yeah. That's a fact. You didn't forget to mention that nigga. Why? Why I say them because it's like I'm being what he was. You know, he came in the game at a young age. A very, very young age. Yeah, very young. And it's like, I'm not taking the same steps as him, but I see myself in him. You know, not like, not trying to be like him or nothing, but it's like, see it, man. He really did what he had to do at a young age to be where he at now. Definitely, man. Definitely, man. We had Archivius Armstrong flying in from, was he from South Carolina? South Carolina, North Carolina. South, I believe. Have we had somebody from North Carolina on here? This the first guy? I think so. I got a cousin up there, man. Oh, no. Y'all had Tim Bosson. Yeah, but what about shout out to Dane, Rocky Mountain, y'all up there. Man, listen, man, North Carolina, South Carolina, Atlanta, man, it's some, man, we got a lot of people out there, man. Culture, man. You know what I'm saying? Houston, Dallas, Detroit. We had so many people out there. But the thing I could say, man, is y'all brothers, man, y'all make it worthwhile, bro. That's where he's not wanted to do this, bro, because there's a lot of talent out here. But I think a lot of times people didn't really just give shit light on everybody. The South never did get the recognition if you really think about it. They didn't have platforms really to go on in. I always say that, you know, like, like, man, it's bias, man. We got to have our own platform. That's what this is about. And while you was here, I wish you tapped into me earlier because I'd have put you on some more platforms. Yeah. Because I know everybody. So, you know, I don't know why. Well, how long have you been here? I've been here since Monday. A couple of days? Monday. Yeah, Monday. Okay. Next time you fly and hit me up, now don't play with it, bro, because I'm going to try to line you some up different, you know. We all know different people. And it's going to be worthwhile. Even in California, I got people, man. I got people that can put you on major play. You know what I'm saying? That's what it's all about. That's when people start to see you and, dang, man, that boy coming with it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So, what has you got for us? I want to know. So, in the 20 years you've been here, can you name an instance? Because what I always suggest that we use this platform to do, a lot of people watch this platform and they might be going through things in life and feel like they're the only ones who are going through that situation when they're not. Tell me about an instance that maybe was devastating or depressing to you that you went through and how you overcame it? I got to say back to us when my mom happened to... Was that the most... Yeah, that was the most depressing thing that ever really happened in life. And how I overcame it was just being great. You know, cutting people off. Because when my mom was in her death bed before, the doctors was telling us she was about to go. This and that, this and that. And it's like family members, when they feel like it's beneficial to them, that's when they show their face. But it's like when my mom was in the hospital, you'll see half of my family up there. Now, she can't even get a call from none of my family members. So it's like I had to cut people off as I go. And with this rap game, since I didn't really try like a little bit of blown up, you know what I'm saying? I didn't got a whole lot of inboxes from people texting me that ain't never really checked on me. Ain't none of that. But now it's congratulations. I don't need your congratulations. That's good that you learned that lesson from early. Because you know, they're going to come out of the woodworks the bigger you get. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to be honest with you. They do that. Everybody want to be around it. I don't know what it is. At the end of the day, you're going to get that son. The DM's going to be full all that. You got to be able to, you got to be bigger than that. It's about your dream, your destiny, your passion, right? Mm-hmm. So misunderstood. What's that about? Misunderstood. It was like, see, before I came in with this melody and stuff from my music, I used to be this real gangster rapper, like going crazy in my life. I got a job you live at. Like stuff like that. But now I done calmed down and matured in my music. It was now like, I had dropped this song called Drop and it went 30,000. But I dropped Dead Me Wrong and it went 100,000. So it was like, more people want to hear pain music than drill music. That makes sense. That's true. You know what I'm saying? Same. I had to do what the people wanted to hear. You know what I'm saying? It don't matter. Like if I'm going through it, I don't got to be going through it because somebody else is. You know, like that song, Dead Wrong, I still have people. I was just on live before I got here. Somebody tapped in and was like, you don't know how much this song meant to me. I was going through a whole lot when I heard this song and it calmed me down. It really did something to me. And stuff like that was a cat from Detroit and stuff. And I was like, I appreciate you. I don't got to be going through it. Somebody else is. And their situation might be deeper than mine. So you never know what a person is going through. So I just put that music out. Yeah, because his mics are very powerful. And I tell everyone who's sitting in a seat that use it to help somebody. You know what I mean? Yeah. That song did me wrong. So many people hit me up saying, I'm getting inspiration and stuff like that. I really take that to him. You know what I'm saying? Because I love that. I love to hear that. Have you met your major fan yet? Because everybody has that fan that's been following them ever since you started. I haven't. You haven't? You will. I will. Yeah. I'm trying to get a meeting Greek going somewhere in some city, you know, because it didn't be like a whole lot of, like when I, before I dropped, did me wrong. Well, before I did a little elevator skit, like I was only at 5,000 followers on Instagram. And when I dropped it, I'm now at 18,000. And just, and I didn't did that. That was like two months ago when I did that, you know? And it's like, I just seen the growth, you know? And I'll just stay consistent, you know? You stay focused, man. What's that little thing they do when they put the mic up and they walk out to it? Have you done one of those? Yeah, I did one last night. Oh, so they out yet? No, it ain't got it. I just did it last night at the Real Life Street Stores. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did one of those to, um, the song. Shout out Real Life, yeah. Yeah, shout out them. Yeah, they, um... That's what it's all about. You got to get you one of them, right? Yes, sir. Man, so, uh, man, uh, yeah, yeah, um... So, man, let me... How can people get a hold to you, man? How can, um, you know, if they want to, uh... You know, what's your Instagram? Yeah, all your platforms that you... Let's shout them out right away. You can follow me on Instagram at TheRealBabySea, T-H-A-R-E-A-L-B-A-B-U-I-C. You can give me on all major platforms at BabySpaceSea. That's how you'll... That's how you'll come to the show. Come on with it, man. Save, man. Thank you so much for coming on the show, man. We love you, brother. I love y'all, too. I love y'all, man. And if you ever need something or... And if I pull up in your city, then I'm gonna highlight you. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna be like, man, I'm here a nigga where you at. I'm pulling up. And I'm gonna be doing interviews somewhere and knowing me, because I'm always pulling up on people because I feel like I got to spread the love, right? Yes, sir. So, man, I just want to say thank you for coming on Boss Talk 101, man. And if there... Like I said, if there's anything, anything that you need from me, hey, man, I'm gonna give you my number. We're gonna link up. And it is what it is. We're gonna lock in with the IGs and all that stuff we do, right? We're gonna get to drops. I seen my man on Charleston with y'all merch on last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'm like... Is it blue? Was it blue? Yeah, that's the new stuff. I'm like, boy, you got some shit on me. Say, man, we ain't playing no games, man. Yeah, man, it's... As a matter of fact, y'all did... They did call me last night. I was asleep. The nigga took a cat nap. You niggas didn't give me... I took a cat nap, nigga. I usually don't sleep, nigga. But I cat-napped y'all last night. I missed it, but God is the only one in control. So I didn't do nothing wrong. But I called him back right after he told me about you. It just hit now when you said that. Say, man, check it, man. Hey, man, anything else you want to say? No, sir. In any other music you want to talk about? You want to be with somebody? All right, then we're gonna get out of here, man. Check it, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101.