 Coming up on DTN assets WWDC 2021. There's a lot of news we're gonna do our best to break it down. There's other news too plus announcements from this year's WWDC show. This is the Daily Tech News for Monday June 7th 2021 from Studio Redwood. I'm Sarah Lane. From lovely Cleveland, Ohio. I'm Rich Strafolino. I'm the show's producer Roger Chang. And joining us today we have Terence Gaines and Nika Montford, the host of the Snob OS podcast. Hello. How are you both doing? Good. Glad to be back. Got a lot to talk about today. Well, it is just kind of the perfect day for both of you. I was watching you both on Twitter, taking your own notes, doing some live tweeting. WWDC, of course, especially when you do anything that's Apple focused. We're certainly Apple focused to a point here on DTNs, but the Snob OS podcast, it's definitely in your wheelhouse. So really great to have both of you. We are going to get into as much of the WWDC details as we can fit into one show in just a few minutes before the show. We were talking on Good Day Internet, just about a little bit about WWDC and what we sort of liked and didn't like. But we also talked about haunted lakes. If you want to know a little bit more about that wider conversation, you can do so by becoming a member at patreon.com. Let's start with a few non-WWDC tech things you should know. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced that the company will continue to not charge fees for its paid online events, fan subscriptions and badges through 2023 and will include its upcoming news products in that no fee policy as well. No word on what the rate will be after 2023, but if there's any question why Facebook is doing this, Zuck said, when we do introduce a revenue share, it will be less than the 30% that Apple and others take. Zing. Singapore-based Flex, the world's third biggest largest chip manufacturer, expects chip shortages to continue. Flex's chief procurement and supply chain officer, Lynn Terrell, says, with such strong demand, the expectation is mid to late 2022, depending on the commodity. Some are expected into 2023. Chipmakers continue to invest in new production capacity, but new facilities are not yet complete. The California Public Utilities Commission issued a permit to GM's autonomous vehicle subsidiary, Cruise, allowing the company to shuttle passengers in its test vehicles without a human safety operator. Cruise is the first company to get the permit in the state and cannot charge affairs for rides in test AVs. Nine companies, including Cruise, have previously obtained driverless test permits from the California DMV that's different from the Public Utilities Commission, although Nuro remains the only company to have obtained a commercial deployment permit from the DMV. YouTube Shorts, still in beta and previously available in the US and India, is now expanding to the UK, Canada, and Latin America. Users will now be able to use music from YouTube's wider catalog, add captions and overlays on shorts, color correct, and sample audio from other shorts. Sounds familiar. And Google reached a settlement with France's competition authority over charges that had abused its dominant online ad position by favoring its own advertising services to the detriment of rivals. The company agreed to pay a 220 million euro fine and pledged to improve interoperability between its ad manager and third party ad servers. The changes stemmed from a 2019 complaint filed by News Corp. and the French newspaper Le Figaro. All right, before we get into some WWDC news, we did have a pretty big story over the weekend that that spins a tale of sorts about two different national approaches to cryptocurrency. In a broadcast at the Bitcoin 2021 conference, El Salvador's president, Naib Bukele, announced that he will send a bill to the country's Congress to make Bitcoin a legal tender. Currently, the US dollar is legal tender in the country. El Salvador will partner with the digital wallet company Strike to build out Bitcoin financial infrastructure. Strike first launched its mobile payments app in the country back in March, quickly becoming El Salvador's most downloaded app. So there's some demand there. El Salvador largely operates as a cash economy with about 70% of the population without bank accounts or credit cards. One would think ripe for cryptocurrency to be adopted in possibly mass numbers. Currently about 20% of the country's GDP comes from remittances sent home from migrants abroad and Bitcoin transfers for these would avoid international transfer fees or, you know, that would be something that could be sold to a person who's thinking about getting into this. Meanwhile, China continues to crack down on Bitcoin trading and mining. As many cryptocurrency related accounts on Weibo were blocked over the weekend with more actions expected to come in line with the country's criminal law. Access to banned accounts was denied with a message saying that they violate laws and rules. It's a little bit of a general thing, but that's what it said. China's central bank development of its own is developing its own digital currency and is continuing to do so. Yeah, and they're trialing that on some limited basis to kind of get a feel for how that's going to fall. And I think a lot, this is Bitcoin news out of El Salvador. I think a lot of people saw, okay, when Bitcoin first got started, there was a lot of speculation of, oh, what's the future of currency going to be? We've seen various businesses and industries kind of varyingly adopt different types of cryptocurrency. Bitcoin certainly prominent in that group. But I think for a lot of speculation was, okay, so this is showing, having this decentralized approach, being able to avoid some of these gatekeepers and stuff like that, this paves the way maybe for a digital currency. Obviously what China is doing right now, the US, Great Britain, the EU is also all looking into this. What El Salvador is doing, I mean, when you look at that 20% of GDP, some of these fees that come from these remittance international transfers can be up to 10%. So you're looking at something that this could be like, if this seems mass adoption and given that the app that's back in the strike is very popular in the country, it could be a not insignificant boost to their GDP just by this simple move. So it will be interesting to see how they lay that financial infrastructure and are able to, if this is actually able to help people kind of get more advanced, I guess money transfer services, it would still be largely unbanked population, but what kind of difference that could make? Yeah, yeah, no kidding. Well, I guess my question will be real fast is, how developed is El Salvador to where the majority of people don't have bank accounts? Is there a learning curve when it comes to Bitcoin? Is that something they're going to have to overcome in order to do this? Because that seems like a big learning curve. Again, I'm not familiar with El Salvador like that, but are they technologically advanced to where they can jump on this fast enough to be able to take advantage to where it could at their GDP? That's a really good question. I'm not never having been there. I'm not much of an expert myself, but I kind of liken it to the idea of, oh, well, if you're mostly dealing with cash, whether it's going in or coming in or going out and not banking, so not doing a lot of online banking, so you think, well, there's possibly a lot of adoption of home computers yet to be had, but if you can access an app that doesn't require to have a bank account and you're skipping out on some fees, it's almost like folks that jump to the smartphone life without having the computer first type of a thing. The adoption is probably pretty darn easy, because money's money. Yeah, to the point where banking might look like, well, that's the old way of doing things, but it's sure a lot more complicated than what we're being sold. Why crawl when you can fly, I got you. All right, well, we've seen curved displays and foldable displays on consumer electronics for a few years now, certainly prototypes and definitely now things we can actually buy, and we've seen rollable displays on the horizons if CES is any indication. Now, Samsung showed off the prototype of a stretchable OLED display that can be stretched in all directions, like rubber bands, according to the company. The display is able to stretch using a specially designed elastomer, treated to resist the heat of the electronics with a grid like island structure. The current prototype can be stretched up to 30% while operating normally, able to be stretched up to 1000 times. That's just for this prototype, and that's the extent of which they've tested, and it still responds normally. Samsung published a proof of concept showing the display used as a stretchable heart rate monitor about the size of a Band-Aid. It literally just looks like a Band-Aid with a display on it, kind of interesting. Samsung sees this display as having numerous applications in healthcare tech, and just kind of on that Band-Aid design alone, we've seen certainly some kind of wearable tech that's a little bit more passive, right, that has some sort of chemical receptors that can then send some information to a smart device, but having that display on there, I could see a lot of wearable and definitely healthcare tech applications of this. Sarah, you're going to be getting your stretchable display if it's available. Oh well, okay, so we've got, you know, yeah, curved displays, rollable displays, sure, seems cool, no real, you know, precious few products, you know, to speak for all of these prototypes that we keep seeing. However, the stretchable thing, yeah, if you're talking about like, I don't know, something that's tablet-like, I'd be like, eh, that's silly, but yes, anything that would be a wearable, for example, the smartwatch that I use, it gets really finicky about giving me an accurate heart rate, you know, if I'm doing jumping jacks and it's like, oh, it's like, you know, you're at 85, I'm like, ah, it's not working right, like it's not sitting on me properly, you know, it's either too tight or too loose, something that's a little bit more, you know, a second skin would be a great use for this. You mentioned the Band-Aid, it's like, yeah, okay, something like that, you know, not necessarily just on humans, but something that, a piece of technology that can stretch and be sort of flush with whatever surface it's getting data off of. Kind of like the kinesiology tape that, you know, you see athletes kind of tape all over their body, because apparently that does something to the muscles. If they could like put some kind of tech inside of the tape, then I think that would probably be, to me, a better benefit of any type of stretchy type device. Yeah, the problem that it seems like Samsung is having is they still need to retain like a tiny non-stretchable part to kind of put all of the electronics in, like it seems like relatively they have the display component, at least in a prototype, figured out whether it would actually get to production, but it's like it's getting those like kind of hard, you know, unbendable electronics. We've certainly seen that in foldables as well. That's kind of the limiting factor right now. So, you know, we will see, in fact, you know, last year, I think South Korea kind of commissioned LG to kind of take over development of this is kind of the next frontier. It's interesting that Samsung has now kind of come out and is showing off some stuff now, although admittedly it was like a render. So we will see if when that comes to life. Well, if you'd like us to talk about stretchy tech, rollable tech or anything on the show, one way to let us know is by submitting stories in our subreddit and voting on others so they rise to the top. Submit stories, vote on them at DailyTechNewShow.Reddit.com. Oh, key dokey, WWDC 2021, the keynote, which was prepackaged as Apple has been doing since, you know, pandemic times happened earlier today, although as you as I did notice they had the, you know, Memoji crowd and as if Tim Cook was in an event space. So I feel like they're inching back to wanting to make this an in-person event again. I thought that was kind of clever, but we have lots of stuff to cover. So we're going to do our best to get through them. Nika and Terrence, you're going to help make some sense of all this for us. But iOS, we'll start with iOS. The show kicked off with kind of a big splashy set of updates for FaceTime. A lot of stuff. Spatial audio was one of the first things that FaceTime will get with the assumption that people are using FaceTime the way that they are using Zoom or Skype or all sorts of things where we're in video chats together and spatial audio will help you feel more than ever like you're in a room with folks. Background noise suppression if you're in a loud place or if you want to bring in the background noise when you're in a place, those are things that FaceTime is going to add. Portrait modes with a background blurred to kind of make it look, I don't know, more porchety. That's sort of nice. I mentioned Zoom calls. FaceTime links makes appointments FaceTimes a lot more like a more like corporate Zoom call where you can generate a link, plan ahead, send those links. Those links can open in web browsers as well as mobile devices. That's kind of cool. And SharePlay lets you listen to stuff on Apple Music within a FaceTime call. So there's some inter-app stuff going on. You could also watch a video in a FaceTime call which then gets into watch content with your friends on a FaceTime call. And third-party apps, certain third-party apps will be able to take advantage of SharePlay as well. For example, you could, we could all hear on the show fire up something on Disney Plus and co-watch together, as long as we're subscribers. Terrence and Nika, what of FaceTime, whether I mentioned it or not, jumped out to you the most? Well, you mentioned it. They're trying to be what people are doing on Zoom, especially with the FaceTime links to be able to schedule a FaceTime versus just scheduling and how you schedule it. Everybody get on that call or at that time and say, okay, well, let me then start FaceTime. It's already pre-started. So all these plays specifically with FaceTime specifically are, okay, Apple wants to get in front of that work, play, do everything in FaceTime versus it just being something that you do with your kids or your kids do. This is actually grown-up time. Put on your big boy pants and now let's try to get into the office so we can actually look more professional. And the fact that they're allowing it across platform, it's not, the link will work not just with iOS devices, but with Android and with other devices as well. I think they are really trying to find their space in the whole, you know, virtual type meeting space. So for the most part, I think that's what they're doing with FaceTime and giving you the spatial audio. So it gives you more of a feel that you're actually in the same room with the person. So it's not so flat to seeing so much as a more of a robotic type of interaction. It kind of gives you the feel of being in the same room with someone. Yeah, that's a really good point of non iOS people being able to join a FaceTime call, you know, to be invited to one. I was listening to a podcast over the weekend, just, you know, what to expect from WWDC, you know, as everybody had those over the weekend. But, but yeah, one of the, one of the folks who was on a particular podcast was like, yeah, I don't live in the US. I mean, the whole like messages and FaceTime stuff, it's not just iOS specific, but there are so many other options, depending on where you live, that a lot of this just seems like it's this very insular world that so many people are not a part of. And I know Apple knows that. So to be able to, to open up something that is clearly popular with iOS users to others is a big thing. Also in iOS, a lot of notification updates. You've got focus mode that goes beyond do not disturb where someone would get an indication like, oh, she doesn't just have, you know, the whole system off. There's something that Sarah is doing so that she can't get back to you right away. So it's a little bit more context as to why you might text somebody and they don't respond, whether it's going to be for a while or the whole night, or if they're just doing something else. Better notification summaries. So when you're looking at your notifications and a bunch of apps have given you a lot of stuff, you get a little bit more context on what those notifications have. Photos now include live text. This is kind of neat, allowing you to highlight text that's in a photo and using a little, a little AI to be able to give you that text and you could copy and paste it somewhere else. I believe that they mentioned on stage that that would be in seven different languages. In images as well, the idea to attach songs from Apple Music, of course, to add to photos memories. I'm like, photo memories are already so dangerous. Not only are you going to show me a picture of my ex-boyfriend, but that song we broke up to. No, thank you. But I thought that the announcement in the Apple wallet, which wallet is, I don't know, I feel like there have been so many missed opportunities for wallet as of late, but Apple mentioned keys, corporate badges, hotel room keys, keys for smart home locks all able to be stored in wallet. Also, identity cards, a digital photo ID can be in your Apple wallet, something that I think would be, could be replacing your ID going through an airport, for example. They kind of threw that in there like it wasn't a big deal, but that jumped out at me as like a pretty big deal. No, it is a big deal. Yeah, go ahead, Terence. Well, because I mean, I dream of the day we can get rid of a wallet. There are frequent times where I'm walking around my neighborhood and since I've got an Apple watch, just got the cellular, I can put my podcasts on here, I can do all the things, I can get in and out of my house. But the one thing I can't do is put my ID on my watch and I would think it would be a nice way to be able to put my ID on my watch because just as a black man out there, I don't want to leave the house without my ID. So the ability to be able to just have my phone with me and then know that I have some form of identification on my phone is a big deal for me. Yeah, and I think, and they mentioned I think coming down the pipeline is for TSA, for you to be able to get through TSA. I don't know if it's specifically if you have like global entry or like your passport, but you're going to be able to add not only like your driver's license, but other identification if you are, you know, in the airport trying to go somewhere. And I think trying to get away from like physical items, because I know I'm mostly digital. I really don't like dealing with like paper. And as much as I can, if I can put it on my phone to scan to go to the grocery store, go to the airport or whatever the case may be, to just have everything, you know, in my phone, because I'm nine times out of 10, I'm going to have my phone on me or my watch on me. So to be able to have that type of identification, you know, on your physical person, not something you actually have to carry that separate. I think that's, I think that's a pretty big game changer that they did. Like you said, they are kind of gloss over. Yeah, yeah. I mean, definitely I, you know, I felt as though if there were a crowd, there would have been some gasps kind of thing like, Oh, this is pretty cool. But, you know, alas, we're all at home. A few more, few more announcements in iOS, weather got new dynamic designs, maps get gets new detailed 3d views in certain cities, you know, rolling out slowly, but maps continues to get better. But over on iPad OS side, we got something called shelf. It's a new way to multitask split screen options within apps. If you're, if you've got a, an app and a shelf, it's, I guess I, if I understand this correctly, and I haven't used iPad OS regularly as, as a productivity tool in some time, but it's sort of fast app switching, but it's more like a dock. So we've got yet yet closer, the iPad OS and the Mac OS operating systems inching closer together, not exactly, but they're getting there. Oh yeah. No, absolutely. Because you can definitely do that on a map. You can have the desktops, what they call it in Macs where you can swipe between the desktops and however you have your desktop set up. You know, in my case, a lot of times when I'm working on our show, I'll have safari and docs next to each other, but I can just swipe to another desktop and have something totally different. Well, this kind of does that. So they're trying to play into that, you know, even more so iPad can in fact be a full production multitasking tool. So this is another way to try to push that point. Yeah. And I think it was very interesting that he brought up specifically podcasts. So he had like one side of the screen was like a podcast and one side was kind of a doc. So it's like, you know, instead of having a full on production to record a podcast or a web show, you can actually do that from your iPad. You have the video screen, you have, you know, the audio portion of it. So yeah, I think it was a very calculated point of them specifically mentioning a podcast. And what's interesting about the concept of the shelf is that it helps finally kind of deal with the fact that iPadOS is a windowed operating system. Like we've all we've had the split screen and the desktop concepts around for quite a for a little bit now. But the fact that like when you open the one of the examples they showed is that when you open a mail app, that mail pane is kind of opened in its own window that's on top of the mail that like is existing on top of kind of everything else. And the shelf is kind of designed to okay, here's how we deal with that. So that is tied to mail because that's where you're going to want to access it. But if you don't want that up, you can you can take that away. You know, people have kind of some people have criticized iPadOS for maybe moving a little slow for in terms of building these elements. But you know, I think this is a very big step for you know, if you want to be kind of iPad only this kind of window management as rudimentary as it may be, is a big step. Yeah, so there, well, we'll get to it in a universal control, which which does bring the iPad into into the Mac universe even more with Mac OS Monterey. But before we move on from iPadOS, bigger widgets on the home screen, quick notes for iPadOS and Mac OS. So it's the notes app, but again, more contacts richer. And developers can build apps with swift playgrounds, essentially just making it easier to to to work on building apps. Those of those of the developers who already do so say, Oh, this is easier. Maybe there are others who just never got their feet wet in the first place, who might want to take a swing. That's pretty cool privacy. Apple. Apple was a bit heavy handed with privacy. That's Apple's thing these days. We would expect nothing less. But quite a few privacy features that they went through, such as being able to hide your IP address when you're sending an email so that the recipient can't do things like, you know, track you, or if you if you if you get an email rather to be able to know when you opened it, that sort of thing, hiding your IP address when you are visiting sites in Safari, providing a new app privacy report. So folks can see how often apps are using your location, your mic, searching your contacts, you know, using your camera. This is all happening every seven days. And this is if you grant an app permission to do so. So Apple is saying, well, first of all, if you don't grant permission, you don't have to worry about apps being able to access any of the stuff. But if you do, we're still going to give you the information on how this is being used. So then you can, you know, reassess at a later time, if that's exactly what you want the app to be doing. Siri on device processing, not only makes a lot of queries faster, but gives more privacy because your question isn't going out anywhere. It's on device. There's a recovery contact list for gotten password. So if I, I don't know, I'm really shut out. I might say, well, Nick is on my trusted list. I can give her a call and get my information that way. A new digital legacy program. If you are, well, this is something that you would think about before you pass away, but it is, it's designed for your loved ones to be able to deal with what your digital life was, whatever state they want it to be in, in the event of your passing. And we got iCloud plus, which includes hide my email. You know, if you're signing up for a newsletter and you just don't want that, that email address of yours to get out there, it's a way to obfuscate, but to, to, to get that information to your actual email address, private relay for encrypted web searches, home kit video supports. Okay, rich privacy. I know you care about privacy. What, what, what, what felt like lip service here and what felt pretty cool from Apple? I think the app privacy report is super interesting because previously it's kind of an all or, I mean, even though they do give you very granular controls, you know, whether the mic, you can access some photos, location. Once you've kind of enabled that, it was, you know, you kind of just like, okay, I guess this app just forever has this, and maybe I'll turn off location services if I feel uncomfortable getting that report seems really great. iCloud plus, if I'm not mistaken, this just takes over iCloud. There's no iCloud minus or anything like that. That private relay, I'm interested if that's just Apple speak for a VPN, or if that is something a little bit more sophisticated, almost like a, like a Cloudflare 1.1.1 or some sort of DNS, or maybe it's all packaged together. I'm not 100% sure on that. But I really think that, you know, Apple continues to make very meaningful transparency when it comes to privacy. You know, they're not just putting up a wall for customers and stuff like that. They are, you know, giving you some really meaningful tools. App privacy report is kind of number one for me. Yeah, and I was going to say date. And again, I don't know if this is a good thing. Right now it's a good thing. But Apple is making it really hard for somebody that is really into their ecosystem, especially with stuff like privacy, all these meaningful additions, right? They're making it really hard for me to say, okay, something happened. I'm fed up. I'm going to pick something else. Where are you going to go, especially if you're concerned about privacy? Where are you going to go to where, you know, whether it be Android, whatever the case may be, where are you, Windows, Microsoft, where are you going to go to where they really said, okay, we're going to, you know, air quotes, but we're going to care about you this much. You know, it's making it even harder for people to get out of the ecosystem. Like I said, I don't know if that's a good thing because of all the reasons why you don't want to leave. Privacy, VPN, security, data protection, you know, but if you do decide to leave, you know, where are you going to get, where's the comp for that? And I don't see one. And that's how they get you. Well, and I feel like the stuff that they announced with their health stuff is very much in that same vein. We're like, this is genuinely useful stuff, but it's almost sets up a way that like, you know, I can't give away, you know, my VPN and I can't give away, you know, the ability to look at, you know, how my parents are doing with their health wise and stuff like that. So I think that's kind of a shadow theme for WWDC too. Yeah. Well, speaking of health, oh, go ahead, Terrence. No, I was going to say, don't leave or else. Yeah, right. Yeah. You'll get very sick very quickly. The health app definitely wants folks to keep their Apple watch if they already have one and buy one if they don't. Mobility is new for health metrics, which will measure your walking steady, steadiness. Now we all walk differently and Apple knows that the company said used a study of over 1000 people to measure fall risks. So gathered a lot of data about how someone's natural gate may be and how those people differ and how a difference can potentially lead to something and how that kind of information helps Apple get a little bit smarter about this might be an issue. You mentioned Rich, the idea that you can be able to monitor the data of a loved one or somebody who trusts you to, you know, no one in my immediate family has a fall risk, thank goodness, but if they did, yes, I want to know about it, especially if they're in a compromised position. So a little bit more of that family sharing new trends will help you not only be able to monitor steps. Well, you know, Apple is not the only company that's good at monitoring how many steps I took during the day. But if it notices, huh, well, you're really pretty consistent on the step front, but something's a little off here, you know, just want to just want to just alert you to that fact that also goes for things like resting heart rate, blood, glucose level, that sort of thing. Apple also says all health data is encrypted. So the whole idea of being able to share with folks that are in your family or friends or your doctor shouldn't be of worry, even though that's often very sensitive information because all health data is encrypted. Now, I don't have an Apple watch. Every time Apple gets to some cool watch stuff, I always compare it to my Fitbit because I'm in the Fitbit ecosystem and, you know, they are mostly neck and neck, a lot of this stuff. But, you know, I can't use Fitness Plus because I don't have an Apple watch. There are definitely a lot of things about health. Every time Apple announces something new, I think they're very long in this game, and it is probably only a matter of time till I switch over. Yeah, I think, especially with what we've learned through the pandemic, I think they, because I think one of the new features is respiratory, they're capturing that data in some way. And I think with the trends, it gives you the opportunity to see subtle changes. So, you know, you might get sick or something may happen, but it usually isn't something that's just, you know, instant. It's usually something that's gradual. So I think what they're trying to do with trends is just to start to give you kind of a bird's-eye level of your health. And then if things start to fluctuate, it lets you know a little bit sooner that, hey, I may need to send this over to my doctor or let my doctor know that something might be a bit amiss. Yeah. Got a few other updates before we get to Mac OS Monterey. Airpods with UWB, now on the Find My Network. You can add conversation boost for hearing enhancements, support for spatial audio on Apple TV. Siri is also coming to third-party devices using the Matter Smart Home Standard, of which Apple is part of what was mattered, called until a couple of months ago. Click. Chip. Chip. Chip. Connected home, internet, whatever, yeah. Yeah. I knew it started with the C. I don't know. I guess spatial audio, I think spatial audio is one of those things where once you have it, you go, oh yeah, now I can't go back. I just don't have it yet. So some of this is slightly lost on me. The Find My Stuff for the Airpods seems huge to me because I had a friend who bought some new pros and like within a week left them, when we were still traveling, left them in a cab in another country. And those were gone forever. And I don't know if this would have helped them in that particular situation, but that solves a huge pain point for a lot of people. All right, let's get into Mac OS Monterey. We got a sneak peek of what's to come, universal control, controlling access across your iPad, your MacBook Pro, your, what am I, yes, thank you, I'm like, you know, desktop. And this is just, you know, it's not just, oh, you can use it, you know, you've got a second screen. It's the dragging and dropping across all of them at once. Oh my gosh, when I saw it, I was like, ah, finally, because I don't, like I said, I don't, I don't use an iPad or iPad Pro in particular, now at all. But I loved the idea of, oh yes, I can, I can, at some point add this to my work setup, but to actually have it as a place that files can go back and forth, and it's less of an airdrop slash iCloud slash email to myself type of a situation that I'm doing now, huge. And of course, Apple made it look seamless, but I think universal control is going to be widely loved. Yeah, that was, I was, that was my favorite part of, of the whole announcement, I think, because just having the devices in proximity to each other, so it's nothing that you have to connect, it's, it, what they showed was extremely seamless. And a lot of times, like you mentioned, if I'm working on something on my iPad, I have to airdrop it to my iMac or to my MacBook or whatever I'm using. And with this, you can actually control your iPad screen with your keyboard or mouse from whatever machine you're using. So you can navigate around an iPad, like a laptop. So I just thought the way that it, you can use multi devices. So they had three different devices, you could drag from your iPad all the way across to your iMac. So that was probably one of the slickest things that I, I probably saw from the, from the announcement. I'm, I'm excited about that. And a little setup, you know, right now you can try to do it. We mentioned in, you know, pre show that there's third party things, there's freeware, even Apple offers their sidecar, I think it's what it's called, where you can just do this, the share to different screens. That's just screen sharing. The fact that you just do it without having to think about it, I think is the benefit. Rich, did anything in macOS Monterey stand up to you or you pumped about a new tab functionality in Safari? So the one thing that kind of I geeked out a little bit about is that they showed off an AR object capture where basically instead of doing a whole 3D model, you can use photometry. That's the wrong word, but basically you use pictures to build of 2D pictures to build a 3D object. And I've seen that done with like, like 100 raspberry pies to do like 3D imaging of people. But like the fact that you could do it with a fixed object with just your phone, obviously that speaks to a lot of Apple's AR ambitions going forward. But I think that, that points to a lot of interesting things to make that kind of AR capture a lot easier for developers and just for regular users. On the developer side, something that is probably going to be pretty helpful to developers, but also people like me who are in the App Store constantly, custom app listings for pages in the App Store that can not only change the, like sort of the app album art depending on who might be viewing the app so that more people say, oh, this is exactly what I'm looking for. But to also highlight events, somebody on Twitter said, yeah, like Travis Scott doing that Fortnite concert, right Apple? That's kind of what we're talking about. That's actually a pretty good example. Exclude cloud access. The limited beta starts today. It's available to all devs in 2022. We've also got test flight on the Mac, on the developer side. Terrence, did you see anything that a developer friend might say, yes, I've been waiting the whole time for this? They're probably just to make it easier for people to eventually get to the point. I think Apple's getting there to where you will eventually be able to make one code, make one app, and it seamlessly work across all devices iOS and Mac for the fact that you can actually do it faster using Exclude cloud access and test flight. You know, they're just getting closer and getting closer and getting closer to where we won't have to have all these differentiations. We got Mac OS, TV OS, iOS and watch OS eventually just be like, just develop it one time and work. So we're just getting very, very closer. And you can test it. You can test your app across the different OS's in the cloud. So you're not having to, you know, run your tests, you know, on each different OS and churning and just, you know, tying up your system, all that's done in the cloud. It gives you a test report at the end tells you what failed, what worked on each different OS. So I think X, you know, Xcode cloud is going to be extremely, I think the developers are going to love Xcode cloud a lot. Tongue sister there. But I was really, I was really, you know, impressed with what they're doing with Xcode cloud. We've got public betas of iOS 15, iPad OS 15, Mac OS Monterey, TV OS 15 and watch OS 8 all coming in July. We will continue some WWDC news on the show during this week. You know, this is, it was keynote morning, but the show itself will continue throughout the week and there'll be some news coming out. So look for more news on this show as the week rolls on. But final thoughts from Terrence and Nika, what were you the most excited about from what you saw today? Was it lackluster? Was it better than expected? It was a lot. It was definitely on brand and what I mean by that is, you know, I'll let somebody else jump in on this, no hardware. I'll just say that and keep it moving. The fact that it was, you know, devoted to software is WWDC, you know, this is for developers. So they really stayed like I mentioned on brand as far as operating systems, no mention of iOS 16. So I think this is just iOS 15 is going to continue for this year unless they spring something up in September. I don't know. But there's one thing that I also thought that was going to be pretty cool, especially for somebody like me that does Apple iOS support is the screen share in iOS that will enable you to actually walk through your device with a friend with a family member instead of just like I mentioned in the tweet closing my eyes while I'm supporting somebody and imagine what their iPhone screen is supposed to look like. Now we can do the screen share and I can say, okay, click this, swipe this, tap that and I can actually see in real time. So again, it just goes a long way to like I mentioned before to where Apple is making it really hard to gather their ecosystem, especially if you have friends and family member who are on the same ship. Yeah. Again, I share that sentiment. It was just so much information. I don't think I've been able to really digest it all. But again, like I said, I was pretty impressed with the Universal Control Act across the different devices. I think that was probably the biggest thing that I got out of it. And I think just some of the dev apps that they have coming out are going to be really top-notch. Well, very cool. Rich, what about you? Before we wrap up this Monday edition of WTC 2021 and other news as well, what was the stand-up for you? For me, it was looking at FaceTime kind of growing up. There had always kind of been an open joke when it was first announced that FaceTime is going to be this open standard and you're going to be able to use it on other things. And that never, ever, ever happened and seemed to kind of sit in amber even as they added functionality and to see it kind of with iOS 15 becoming a legit Zoom competitor, multi-platform. I think that's huge. Well, if you think something is huge from the show and we talked about it or we may talk about it tomorrow or Wednesday, send us your thoughts. And if you didn't watch it, you can send us thoughts on anything you'd like us to talk about on our future shows. Well, feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. We love your emails. Thank you in advance. Also, shout out to patrons at our Master and Grand Master levels. Today, they include Ms. Music Teacher, James C. Smith, and Justin Zellers. We also have brand new boss. Yes, we do. I'm going to try to get your name right. Sardonis Delacroix, who just started backing us on Patreon. Thank you. Thank you, Sardonis. Maybe it's Sardonis. Either way, I really like your name. Also, thanks to Nika Monford and Terence Gaines of the Snob OS podcast. Nika, I'll start with you. Where can people keep up with everything you do? They can pretty much find me on Twitter at TechSavvyDiva. I'm pretty much on Twitter all the time and, of course, on our podcast Snob OS. Terence Gaines, where can people find your work? Yeah, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook sometimes, I guess, at Brother Tech. And like Nika mentioned, I am the second half of the Snob OS show. We record every Wednesday. We normally come out every Friday with new episodes. So tune in there. Well, thanks so much for joining us on the show. I know it's a big day for you. Such a pleasure. And we'll do it at the next Apple event. We are also live on this show Monday through Friday, 4 30 p.m. Eastern. That's 20 30 UTC. You can find out more at DailyTechNewShow.com slash live. And we are back tomorrow with guest Trish Urschberger. Talk to you then. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more at frogpants.com. 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