 Okay, I'm an introduction to Cloud Automate, our service. So, I'm Reimo Terada, and I play for Milaima, and I come from Tokyo, Japan, and I'm an engineer of SaberMax. I'm an endless engineer, but not a programmer. Only a network and a server. And the Pokemon Go level is now 22. Okay, I'll tweet as the Facebook is here. My favorite double service is Lambda. It's a very useful service, I think. And of course, our system is the same architecture. It's like a gateway, and Lambda, and then MVP. But it's a serverless system, but I'm joining the server box. So, use many, many servers. So, serverless main region. And mainly focus on AWS and service, not on-premise. And our region is EpiNOS, this one, Tokyo. And main business is a migration from the center to AWS. It's a main business. But its value is migration. It's a very big volume, but try to cloud-native system and serverless architecture. So, my engineers are interesting with serverless, but business is probably the biggest user, such as a classical system, a real system. So, it's pretty. So, here, we're going to use EC2 and Rodec. So, typically, our system or something, integration, some company, and company, it's a big volume. And so, such a thing, so we have, we think what is better to operation, to address. So, we make cloud-automated. But cloud-automated team is on the side, but I'm a mainly integration team. So, not program and not making cloud-automated, but very, very heavy use cloud-automated. So, I can introduction of this service. So, what is cloud-automated? So, we have cloud-automated as a two-function. One is a job, and one is a review. So, it's a, we think one of the best service of AWS automation. And before cloud-automated, use AWS manual operation, operator click, if it's made, create a snapshot, or a stock, or a start, or restart or something, and do manually. But after cloud-automated, you can setting the UI menu to click and click. So, setting every day start EC2 instance, or every day make a great AMI. So, no touch UI or ad address management console. So, for a reason, I use cloud-automated. So, one is a security. No operator touch the AWS system. And another is a cost-reduce. Or stop and start is a daily need if it's on-demand instance cost. Of course, we can do this, include RTS, stop and start, or let's say start and stop. It's one of the point. And not make idle snapshots. Snapshots have many, many, many, many, many snapshots. And no one delete something. We can, generation, if you are every one week, you have to save the AMI. So, only seven generation we can make. And all the lines delete and mute snapshots. And we are, so this is a premium consulting partner. And we managed 1,000 or more address server. So, we have some many, many address knowledge. So, it's a review function. So, it's not going to review your AWS system. Automatically address operation. We can press address operation. So, using a five-trigger and a lot of action. Meaning, stop issues, start issues, something. Use API without making something script or application. It's very useful. And you can use that. Of course, apply type. You want to stop one day, not create snapshots or something. And you can switch on and off. This service is GUI. And operation is that manually. So, you can no operation extend something. Another instance, stop or something. And the standardization of the operation. So, GUI leads to your scheduled operation. So, you can only use the GUI. Meaning, without text file or Excel or configuration file or nothing, only GUI. And reduce operation cost. No people are there, not manually. So, only use the cloud automated procedure. Not so expensive. I think, reduce operation cost. So, you can do... It's right Japanese. But time and HTTP are SNS or SQS input. And action of EC2 or ABS are a lot to see. It's a typically component. One job have a trigger and action. Trigger means schedule. And if you want to aim or something, take HTTP or use SQS. It means trigger. And action is a stop or start instance. So, aim and making, change a security group. And if you make one job and use reaction. Use the EC2 management tag. If you tag the set production environment. And if you tag value, use the production. Production values on EC2. You can use every tag production to stop or start. Only one job. And it's rest over trigger and action. Trigger has a timer and the imagery and HTTP, SQS, SNS and that's fine. And action is a more... I think not twice, but more... You have action, sorry. Japanese, sorry. But EC2 start and stop and change instance type. You can do and apply commands on Linux. I think now on Windows, so use the SSM agent. It's a new AWS service this year. Create an MI or an MI region copy. It's a user resource recovery. The EBS and ERB attach ERB at EC2 instance or detach EC2 instance. And security group at inbound or delete inbound. If you new branch making and IP address. So you can add inbound setting. And RDS, a quiet snapshot and delete RDS instance. It's a bit mean and list of snapshot and region copy. We can use Aurora. Not only add this. You can do Aurora, so delete the big cluster and create the cluster snapshot and restore cluster snapshot. And Redshift. It's two operations, delete cluster and restore snapshot. And let's fix the update resource. So if you do a blueprint deployment, you can change only, I think, change day. So you can change the same URL, but different IP. You can change. Or workspace delete. It's image of the dashboard. It's my account. It's a startup stop. It's only label. Act trigger induction is this one. And state on and off. On is use, but off is not use. And you can detail here and edit this icon. Setup stop is only three steps. Select past trigger time or SQS. And select environment of job. When start, it's time trigger. When start at once, or Monday to Friday. And select action. Start PC2, start PC2. After you send email. Success, send email. Or if your job fails, send email. You can say. It's demonstration of Takahisa after my talk. More detail. And it's how you can cloud automate a timer. And action is create AMI. So you can take snapshot every day or every week. And manage AMI generation. You want to have one week AMI snapshot. Save information. And at that time, if it's on the start stop, you can use only weekday system. So weekend is no work up. So only use the weekday system. So you can start in the morning and stop at night. And cost reduce. Use only Monday sheets. And time and RDS delete and restore. So the same, but use RDS. RDS cannot stop at AWS standard function. But use delete and restore. You can, like a stop. So it's not RDS. Stop and stop. RDS or Redshift. You can. Or HTTP trigger. And you should start stop. If you make only web page and start button and stop button making, only this making. So you can start issues and stop issues. If you use a operator, it's very easy. And you can start an FTAG key application. It's a typically pattern. Use a timer trigger. Actually, the stop. So many, many development environment is forgot, stop or something. So many costs. But if you are 10 p.m., I think no worker working. And you can automatically stop development instance. It's a development instance. Add a tag key environment and tag value tab. You add it. So you can run job to stop every development instance. And the same AWS account. And the same VPC. And use a timer trigger and tag key environment. And tag value is production. You can not stop, but you can make an AMI. It's only use a tag. So simple. Or SQS case. SQS case start a timer trigger. But if you are success or drop, no yes and no send an email. And after yes, so in QM to SQS. And the next jobs, SQS trigger and action. Connection to job. Run one or two or three job. You can connect to SQS. Q means make a snapshot and stop. Or actually stop. First stop is action. And the next you can make an AMI. It's a better case of developers. Sorry, let me start SQS. And the HTTPS. It's stop usage and send HTTP. It's only application. You write that application. And operate snapshot from HTTP. Use HTTP trigger. And if you success create snapshot. Send SQS at the cloud automator. And if you stop the instance from... I think that's reverse. But you can do HTTP and SQS. That's use case. So with commentary AMI back up. Very back up generation. So if you decided three generation copy. Make AMI snapshot. New one to... New one. Make. And automatically cloud automator delete this snapshot. So only have three snapshot. You can do the cost. Stop and start. You can... So on demand is cost depend time usage. So one hour per... I don't know... One or three hours. Big instance. So if you stop usage at night and weekend. So it's template case. Only user usage start 8 AM to stop 9 PM. Only weekday. You can reduce 62% cost. So if user arrive only reduce 33%. Not so big. But twice. And it can cost to use automatically stop and start. It cannot... Of course web system. Web system is everyday and every week. And every time user. But user mainly your... You come to company. And you click now coming. And company to end. System is not so much large time window. So you can use such as... On this recovery. You have AMI region copy automatically. One day to make create AMI. And you can copy Singapore, America, and Australia. You can copy AMI and data is there. So... And mainly use... Disaster recovery site at Singapore. So before... Now... Now... We have a... IWC zone to solve. It's very... Closest. But... Last year... Not at Korea region. So... We usually use DRs. Just a recovery site at Singapore. And current operation system. You have another current operation system. It's on premise. So you can connect to a... Use a cloud automator. HTTP trigger or mail or something. You can connect and manage the AWS. So... Apply patch for EC2 instance. So... Last year... Open SSLs... Let's say... Name is hard write. You have to... Every instance to patch and... Apply patch or middleware. I think it's only one action. It's a job's function, but... This is a live function. So... Cloud Automates check your system. And it is better. It's not good. Cloud Automates. So... For example is... MFSating root account. It's so important. And... Create... I am used that... At least once. What? No? Create... I am... No? Set for logs. And output set cloud watch logs. No? Set... You have to set policy at ERB. Or not? And... Cloud Automator review and... It's not that good. Something like I double space like this. And our knowledge. Other words are our knowledge. We have... 50 or more... Policies in Cloud Automate. And you can... It's a set of a policy... How to set up? It's a demonstration of Takahisa. And our customer is a... Such a Japanese company. More... I think twice or three times... More... Ask Japanese about it. They say okay to... Show... And open... User companies. It's a... One, two, three, four, five... Ten or more companies. But we have a customer that's... Three times or four times. And that is price. And... Flow and business enterprise license. So... It's only Japanese yen. But you can pay the paper. So... Exchange... Automatically paper. Our... Currency. So... You can use... And the limit of activities include the... This price. It's a... 200 activity... Businesses... 1000 activity. And... If you... Over... This limit... One activity... I think... Singapore Dora... Something... Is this for what? What? 24,000... 14,000... In year... Four months? Four months. Sorry. Four months. And... Four months. And the review... Is the same. Four months. So... One policy... And five hundred yen. And we have trial plan. It's a start... At rest of one month. So... Few... Today is... September 9th. To start trial. And end is... Next year... Next month. And so... October... September 3rd. September 31st. So you can... Trial. So... Plan the... Enterprise. You can... Every... Cloud Optimize... Function... And so... You can... So thank you. Wish... Some of the things... So I just want... You know... When the... When the institutes are off... Yeah. When they are online... You know... When they are offline... You know... So everything will work. And then... So just... It's a lenses cutting... And then... Ah... Ah... A syhtt, a sensor taking the microwave. Yes. And it's... A case of... You know... Check... Check or... You can... You have to restart? Or not restart ... Option. But... But, can you... It's on like... Like... Anyway, SS or something... In sheet... I can scope... No checking... No, no. Sure. AWS function, is it a function? No, it's not from AWS. Windows, we have to use it. We have that for days. We use some other ways. This client is specifically for the EC2 instances. And there is a snapshot of versions that takes place. And for EC2 instances in the cloud, this particular use case is meant for EC2 instances. If you go in virtual machines or any sort of physical device, what do you think this is going to be? Of course, of course. Yeah, so in this EC2 snapshot is one of the ways which is implemented by AWS. But yes, you can install your own things, like VSS or you can DSM, NetBackup and all those kind of things. Which can serve you really well. No, because we are using some other backup solutions, and it does have the ESF attempt. And by going to shutdown, it is going to be done just by backup. No, it's a cloud automator. You use AWS CLI. So if you take a backup with cloud automator, it will reduce. Okay. You're talking about a snapshot. We are taking a backup for something? For a snapshot. Yeah. For a snapshot, it's a requirement. It has to be suspended first, and then... No, no, no. But please... Yeah. Because it's critical storage. Yeah. I cannot check now. No. When it is load-balanced, you probably can take it. No, no. You cannot check now. Okay. My question is, like, cloud automator, it does function in a similar way, how autoscaling or some other features by the AWS world, how it is different from autoscaling in themselves? Autoscaling and all that? Autoscaling has to a state-world system. So you have to session to another to boot. Okay. But this... It's a... So not think of something... state or session or connection. You don't think and stop to use its instance. Its disk is not deleted. But user is autoscaling. If you reduce 8 p.m. to reduce instance, your disk is deleted, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, you can output a story. If you change your application, it's good, but we cannot... Every classical system, we cannot change the application. So you have to put the data in the AWS volume. It cannot do the autoscaling system, so it's a better way to use another system, another pattern of reduce cost or instance. Have you done any cross comparison? Because you know why? The other AWS partners like yours, like RedSpace also have, but in different form, in capability. What is that? Have you cross-checked whether yours is superior to theirs or you know, or equivalent to that? Because you know why? We don't seem to know because you know kind of capability within the ecosystem, yours and others. Because not only RedSpace, that partners strongly with AWS, have got the alternative to yours, but other players who have got the similar, accept different terminology. One call it automator, one call it navigator, one call it this, one call it that, one call it even, you know, alligator, whatever now. So the question is there. So you see the question, what we don't know is that, have you done a cross comparison between your capability and let's say RedSpace capability? So the question is, what was the question strongly? You see, your accelerator, your automator, it's a terminology that you put automator. So the question is there. RedSpace also have an automator but different identification. Now have you cross-checked whether your capability and their capability, which is better and which is, you know, more economical and more smarter to use, but in your side yes. Because RedSpace is one of the major AWS, you know, propeller. So just how good is yours? About the naming, right? No, not naming, capability. Comparison. Comparison. Comparison. It's at Japan? No, no. The service cannot using Japanese only English. So Japanese people is a reject of English. Japanese is a very large volume and... It's a Japanese ecosystem, understand? And another is, so it's a focus of the automatic operation to AWS. So AWS have many, many functions and Azure have another API and another system stop or start. So focus is AWS is more good. Focus is high speed of programming development. We have not so resource is so much. So we have to more close to. Now we do AWS automation. So is your product only for the Japanese market? Now is mainly Japanese market. Does this thing, so it is not available outside Japan? Is that right? Is it available outside Japan? Yes, of course it is. Do we open some other, you can't find it? No, no, no. You can use all region. If you make an instance out of Iran, you can use it. No, no, what it means is that are you selling outside Japan? And by what? You can make account from the web. So you can just go to the portal and sign up. Sign up themselves. You can sign up here. And the payment is using PayPal, so it's a worldwide system. So there's English. There's English. Yes, yes, yes. So the next question is a show. Next, I will show you how to create a bank. I will show you the dashboard in English. That's what it is. All right. Before we start, so do you use your own back page to everything or is it something under our VPC? Is it under our VPC or is it under your control? So you have to give our database position to your website or with VPC? Yes. So you have to give it to your website or with VPC? Yes. If you use CloudOS, you have to create IAM. IAM user or with CloudOS. And can you use the specification which I am using? No, no. Because no one will be outside VPC and you don't want anything to go out of the VPC. I don't like that. We have more detail with which jobs we teach you. Accusement. You choose jobs, then they tell you which I get. I get. We throw you. But it basically sounds like that. Yes. It's a service. One service. Okay. Sorry. We show you the demo. Okay. Do you use your own back page or is it something under your control? Yes, I use it. I can use it as my own back page. Do you need the security or the policies? I ask them if Japanese like Final Show or IE is secure. Or are you using it? There is a policy. Saki-san. I've got a suggestion. It is only FBi so you have to publish up this and have a scan and see. So, from me, I'll explain how to use Grad Automata, and I'll show you some demonstration. Okay, first, let me introduce myself. I'm Takahisa Shiratori. Please call me Takah. I'm working as an engineer in server works. My favorite AWS services are AWS Lambda, S3, and recently EFS is my favorite service. Before joining server works, I was doing research in the field of freed dynamics. So, I'm interested in using AWS for, for example, simulation, physical simulation for freed dynamics or image processing of the experimental freed dynamics. So, because of this background, I'm doing this kind of activities. Okay, today I prepared the temporal account of Grad Automata. So, if you want, you can log in to Grad Automata right now. If you want, please access to this URL and click log in in the top of the website, and please input this email address and password. So, I planned to do this account right after this demonstration, but maybe you want to try after you're going with the bug. Okay, I'll extend. Okay, after... Okay, can I write? Can I write? Yeah, just try. What's your Pokemon dream? I'm not Pokemon dreamer. Why? Because I tried once to play Pokemon Go, but my smartphone is not enough to take the frozen, so I gave up. Okay, this is for demonstration account, so please log in and check our service. I will delete this account after our presentation, so if you're interested in our service, please sign up. It's a very simple process. Okay, so I'll explain how to create your own account from now. If you want to use Grad Automata with your own account, please click this sign up now. There are many input formats, but you have to only input your email address and password to use Grad Automata and your name and choose your language. It's enough. Do you take a photo? And after input this information, you can see this message and you will receive the email soon. After you receive this email, please click this URL and then you can log in to Grad Automata. It's, yeah, maybe five minutes is enough to create your own account. Okay, so that's all for this PowerPoint, and I will show you how to use Grad Automata. This is a dashboard of Grad Automata, and yes, right after logging in to Grad Automata, you can see this kind of image. Okay, I cannot read the cheating paper. It's difficult. Okay, I will show you that after you create your account of Grad Automata, you have to register your AWS account from here. Okay, now I register my own. This is this temporal account. I'm logging into this account. And this morning, I registered my own AWS account, and this is mine. If you register, if you create your Grad Automata account, and if you want to register your AWS account, please input IAM information from here. Okay, next, I'll show you how to create the job. Okay, now, this is my AWS account, and I have one EC2 in Singapore region like this. And this is WordPress server, and this server hosts this job. Okay, good. And from now, I'll set up to stop this EC2 by Grad Automata. Okay, but by timer trigger. First, please choose your trigger. So now, I'll choose the timer trigger. But you can also choose, for example, HTTP trigger to start or stop instances from HTTP. And yeah, many choices. Next. Okay, now, 4pm, 411, so... Okay, I'll set up what time the instance should be stopped. Okay, so, now, 4pm, so, 16, 15. Really good. But this is unfortunately in the Japanese standard time, so we have to... Yes, one hour. And in this case, you can choose, for example, every Sunday, Monday, Tuesday or something. But okay, now, I'll set up once today. Okay, next. And also, you can choose monthly. For example, every month, you take a backup or something. And next, choose action. So now, stop instance. Next. And choose address account. Now, we only have one address account. Next. And now, we choose region. So, this EC2 is in Singapore region. So now, I choose Singapore. There are these EC2 instructions here. And you can... If you, for example, you want to stop on the development environment, you can have the EC2 and you can choose the instance target with. Okay, next. And you can set up the after action stopping the EC2. For example, if stopping EC2, if failed, send me an email or something. Okay, and at last, I'll input the job name. Stop, world, race, server or something. Okay, let me increase this some minutes. Okay, now, this job is created and let me check the detail. So, we set the instance stops at four minutes later. So, please wait four minutes. Job, no, no, next, go next. Okay, I'll show you the backup, backup. Next, I'll show you how to create the backup job. But it's almost similar. Please, for example, if you want to create the backup every day, you have to do like this to time a trigger. And the action is every day like this. Check all. And create AMR, next. And the AWS account is choose Singapore region to instance. Okay, and now, here, I can write an image name and description for MI. For example, backup, world, race. And description is, we can use these, how to say, these descriptions for all day. So, we can write backup on year, month, day. And I can choose a generation. So, for example, in this case, in this case, only five AMIs are saved. All the one is deleted every day. You can set up or after job auto. Job name is backup. Why? Ah, yes, yes. For example, midnight will be fine. Here, I cannot use a space. Yes, here, we cannot use the space. Instead, we have to use Python or other stuff. Half of the structure, we can move now. You know, choose a tree at some time, right? Maybe, we choose a time after having a meeting. Ah, you want to see, ah, okay. So, 22. What's in Japanese time? Time zone. Okay. Attention to pop up. Now, now, maybe the instance is already running. Now, why? Why? Okay, I'm sorry. Let me try again. If there are, you're asking if there are. There is nothing about the privilege of this substance. Anything without any notification. So, maybe not, sorry. What happened? I don't know what happened. It's like a log. Yes, yes. They are, they're all log. They're from the site. In dashboard, we can see the road. Yes, we can see the app. So, in dashboard. Okay, so one minute later, this instance will be, one minute is too long to wait for. If you have a question, please ask me. Can you show the pricing page? Pricing page, ah, okay. Pricing page. I'm not okay with your presentation slides. No, I'm not okay with your presentation slides. Present slide. Ah, I don't have the slide for price, so. Yeah, it's his. Yeah. We're done. Oh, yes, yes. Right, right. So, you want it to zero to make it into US dollars? Ah, no, no, no. I have a screen shot. Okay, one is called limit of activity, right? What is activity there for? Activity. Activity is, for example, you stop one EC2 instance. This is one activity. So, if you stop 20 EC2 instances, this is 20 activities. And start is another activity. Start is another activity. And one snapshot is another activity. Yes. You make it into an activity, right? Every job. How many? Not the number of job and the number of activities. Not equal, because in one job, you can stop many instances. So, yeah. And also below 500 policy. What's the policy there? Find a policy online. Ah. Yes, this is the automatic review of the configuration, AWS configuration. We have some policy for AWS configuration. For example, IAM. So, create IAM user, at least one IAM user or something. So, this is one policy. So, what's the difference between that activity and policy? Activity and policy. Okay. Activity is for this job automation. For this job automation, for example, creating the backup or starting EC2 or stopping EC2 or something. This is another one. This is for review for configuration, AWS configuration. And this function checks your configuration of AWS. AWS. For example... But this is a trial account, not a deny. It's an account. So, for example, checking using MFA, you got a copy. What should we do? What do you want to do? You can test AWS. I like security check, please. Yeah, I like security check. Yeah. We have a two-tab job and a configuration. And the configuration is here. And create. It's only sub-experts. So, if you have no policy, you can still look back at snapshot, right? Policy, you don't have to set up a snapshot. Yeah, yeah. What's the purpose of policy? Security. Yeah, of course. Security and cost. Yeah, cost is easy to install. Yes, easy to install. Yeah, you make so... Optimize, easy to install. Yeah, okay. What's the purpose of this? So, you don't want to create any weird information? Yeah, AWS environment. Oh, really? When you have a lot of information, how many do you use now? I don't know. So, you don't use the information? I don't know. Yeah, it has nothing to do with the jobs. So, you... I think you can see some of them, but security is fine. Like, you do something in the Amazon. You don't have to consult. Or maybe you have too many easy-to-instance booting. Then they will have that. That's all. It's what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay, now this easy-to-instance was stopped because of this Cardboard Metal job. By refreshing... Yes, you can see our logs here. These two logs are... the trial in the morning. My... Yes, my trial. This is the log detail. And, yes, successfully stopped the instance at... Yes, 1722. Yes, you can see the detail. And, yes, but... Create.mi is not processed because I turned off the state from here. So... You have to give that time because the time is past. Yes, yes, yes. It's also... We can easily turn home and off from here. And I turned off because... I afraid to... These two jobs are focused simultaneously. So I turned off this one. So this MI wasn't created. So can you change the time like it's time? Okay. But in this account, it's... I cannot create a MI because... This... I only allow the start and stop in this IAM account. So... You need to have control? Yes, I have to, yes, change IAM policy. Create.mi... Create.mi... Yes, role or not role, policy. Okay, so... That's all for my demonstration. Okay, the price question. The role you said 24,000 yen. Is it per month or over 200,000 activity? 200... Is it 24,000 or over 200,000 activity? It's per month. And the maximum is 200,000. Yes, yes. So the maximum is 24,000, and the maximum is 200,000. That's right. So it's not over 24,000. If we do this one by one, it will be over 200,000. Yes. Okay. Yes. Sure. I think they, like it fits in this month, you have like 201 activity, and they will add 80 and 0.8, 80 cents. Okay. Yes. I've got a question. When you subscribe to Japan geographically, where will the data sovereignty, will the data be in Japan? Data of your account. Yeah. Whether it is in Singapore or not AWS Singapore, it will be AWS Japan. You mean your settings and cycle over there? Yes. You know, it does not sign up. It will connect to the AWS account. Where are the resources stored? Where are the resources stored? For example, the credentials. Credential? Ah. In the data base or the server, where are the resources stored? Was this in Amdika? Yeah. Yes. Yes. That's in Bosnian region. Yes. The cloud automator itself is working in the United States. Maybe Bosnia. Yes. Well, then if you knew it would be a problem, Singapore would always want sovereignty data to be in Singapore, right? Anybody interested in some of the companies that like it, it cannot take out any of the concepts in Singapore. Ah. The regulations. That's why there's a problem in data protection. It cannot be stored outside Singapore. Data sovereignty is number one before you can do. It is a violation of the regulations that cannot be stored outside Singapore. It requires that I am... I am... All into data. Huh? That's why I am... I can't start. Because that's the number one question you would want. The answer that question you had is... I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. There is a problem because it should be in my DTC. Yeah. There will be an upset in DTC. There's a problem. But also in Japan, some customer has such a policy, which is the important data should be... It should be stored in Japan. But even in such a case, in cloud automata, only I am credentialed and job information... Yes, these informations are in the US. Your server itself will be in Singapore. Your EC2 will be working in Singapore. Yeah. There will be different logic. They allow Japanese government to allow for Singapore government. Every data should hold it. Safe or not? Government. Government. Government. That's all it's not. I will talk about... Yeah, but it depends. Because it depends on which industry you want. Manufacturing in Singapore, they don't care. It will be stored anywhere. So it depends upon industry. It depends on which industry you want. But it depends on which industry you want. It depends on which industry you want. Where can we check that information? We can go to MAS, TRM guidelines. MAS? MAS. That's right. You can go to MAS, TRM. So you're in the management of the business. You see, the question is that you as a service provider must understand the question of tactical strategic things. Some people do not have any focus under here. But they know certain data. They do a tactical depository in Singapore. The generic one, non-money, non-financial. We can do it. Definitely. But in terms of transactional, financial account, what ongoing with the money factor would be in Singapore. So you see, many companies that doesn't have the call centre here, but they do a strategic alignment with, let's say AWS. AWS has a call centre here. So they make an arrangement with AWS so the data sovereignty is in Singapore. So you need to tackle that. Thank you very much for sharing. We'll attend the next evening event. Okay, please talk about that. Thank you very much. More other presentations for now, right? Two presentations. Evening, right? Ah, no. Do you have a Jin-Kui Cloud Commission? Jin-Kui. Jin-Kui. Ah, no. Not Jin-Kui. Next presentation. Jin-Kui Cloud Commission is the one with the RDS outside. We'll take a break for 10 minutes.