 Okay, so I guess we'll go ahead. It's okay if everybody will go ahead and call the meeting to order and then when Susie gets available then she can join us. So, I'm not going to do roll call. Joanne, unless you want me to, but I think you can see everybody's little face. Oh, I've got it. Thank you though. Okay, so the first thing is to look at the minutes from last time. Does anyone have any corrections or comments? I move we approve the minutes as distributed. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Thomas. And all in favor of approving the minutes from October or sorry, not from October from September as written, say I or wave your hand or something. All opposed. Okay, so that looks like an unanimous vote to me. Thank you very much. I guess we're up to you, Eric, with the proposed accessions for October. All right. Steph, do you have the PowerPoint that you can share great. All right, so we have quite a number of accessions this month. Go ahead go to the next slide. So the first one is the largest of the ones for this month it is several boxes worth primarily archival material. Relating to the Carol family. They were lived in Longmont from 19 teens to the early 1940s. Carol pharmacy. And Lauren Carol is very involved in the Elks there's a number of photographs of the Elks man. And it's it's generally a nice photographic collection within some additional certificates and so forth that tie to the action. So that is the Carol family collection. Go to the next slide. So the next several accession relate to our project on sending out a call for collections related to the ongoing COVID situation and I believe we have seven total collections related to digital photographs. So the two on this page one woman wearing a hand sewn COVID mask. Another, it's actually an art and public places sculpture that someone has placed a COVID mask on. Go to the next slide. Health care worker again wearing COVID masks and then several photographs of various aspects of COVID so empty store shelves, cordoned off playgrounds celebrating that they could actually find toilet paper. There's also which I couldn't really show you in the PowerPoint, but a brief digital video of a flyover one of the jet flyovers that was done in Longmont. Go to the next slide. So then we have some photographs related primarily to the mask project that and Mac at the museum headed up, and then also a couple photographs of the Black Lives Matter protests at Roosevelt Park. The next one is participant in virtual boulder boulder the person depicted had participated nearly every boulder boulder. And so it was very disappointed when it was canceled and so decided to participate virtually. And then there was also a zoom birthday party screen capture of that kind of cool. Next slide. And this is our last COVID related collection. This one relates a little more to kind of the personal stories. These are the photographs of schools. The signs are the donor called them kind of family harmony. Things they could post on the doors to say either, don't bother me or yes it's fine to come in that kind of thing. And then the one in the lower right corner is kind of a touching story they went to retrieve their daughter from Georgetown after it had closed and you could only bring home a couple of suitcases. And so the suitcases are actually sitting outside. While they're, you know, hopefully the sunlight is killing off the COVID that might be on them. So those are all of the COVID related collections so any questions on any of that I know it's it's quite a lot of collections. Certainly anyone has any thoughts or questions about kind of that contemporary collecting aspect we haven't done a lot of it in recent years but with COVID we thought it was appropriate to do it. So Eric, will you be continuing to collect things as it seems appropriate as obviously this isn't over yet. Yes, there's actually a couple more collections that are still kind of being processed related to COVID. And then at some point and I'm not, we're sort of trying to figure out when we could safely do that. We would probably open up a call for 3d artifacts as well. And talk to talk to a curator at Lakewood and said, they've kind of had the same experience people were willing to share digital photos but really not 3d objects and like masks everybody's still using their masks so. Yes, the thought is certainly we would continue to do collecting in the future and maybe do another call, sort of gets to be a point where it starts to feel like we're on the tail end of it and people maybe have a little more perspective that we might put out another call for, for collections. Great, thanks. I have a question it's Tom. Yeah, regarding all the COVID stuff. And you know you've included BLM which really wasn't covered or related, but it happened during the same time. And my question was, wasn't, are you going to try to include, since you've included the BLM stuff are you going to try to include anything Eric for blue lives matter, which is kind of, you know, there's been some. Advocations of those things to and different parts of the state that I can't remember if there was something actually a long one that occurred I know there was up in Berthand and a few other towns. So yeah, we would certainly be open to blue lives matter donations. It's, and we're really at this point, kind of. We're limited in what people have offered us. So that's, that's certainly something that if we put out another call we could, we could certainly indicate that because I think we actually put out the first call before even the black lives matter protests had really started and just what people were, we're sending in. So that's one of the questions since that was included it seems like you should include the other half the other side to some. Yeah, certainly we would, we would want to document anything relating to long month that people feel like was was significant happening during this time. Okay, thank you. Thanks. I interject before we move on this is council member you'd all go faring. So, um, so I think I wanted to provide a little perspective on the notion of the blue lives matter or the thin blue line. And, and really looking at it, not as an opposition to black lives matter, but it is its own separate entity. Yeah, I think is is that I excuse me, excuse you. That's choice of words. No, that's all right. So, but I wanted to kind of add some context. So last, um, last Friday, I had a conversation with our, the president of the fop the fraternal order of police. And then additionally we had lunch together on Monday. I really was talking around the social justice work, the, the, what the perception of the thin blue line means, and over the years so how it originated so we really went back and looked at history. We looked at how, how it's become an issue of. How it is because this black lives matter comes out. Oh well blue lives matters too. And it we need to go. We, you know, really wanting to look beyond that, that aspect of valuing black lives matter for what it means and it is a social justice issue. So, the other thing is so back in 2016, not long after black lives matter started to emerge. Um, a national education association conference where we had a panel, and they were it was the women who started that movement. That hashtag. And really what they what the reason why they brought that forward was because of the police brutality, things that were happening of black youth, black, predominantly black men who were getting beaten up and assaulted by people by law enforcement and so what that meant so we had a really good conversation with the president of the fraternal order of police so he's the president of the police union, and really talking about what that means and that perspective. So I want to make sure that if we do bring in artifacts from that include the thin blue line, or the flag with the blue line that it comes with context. And so really talking about the what the impacts that it had on has on some individuals in our community for some individuals in our community, especially our community of color are black and brown residents. It feels like a very intimidating view so looking at it and just having the sense of intimidation or threat or threat. And so one of the things that I spoke with Stephen about is really reclaiming that. And so if that was a notion of having police pride, then we need to make sure that the whole community feels that sense of pride. So, you know, I want to be careful that when we start adding in different. So like I think about the black lives matter. So we have the protest we were protesting. This was the sign of the times protesting for social justice equity. So just really making sure that everybody, you know that we are, we are thinking about our, our black and brown community members who have felt under attack from racist attacks, you know, just kind of verbal verbal abuse things that we've dealt with over the years. So I think because there's been organized rallies, we want to make sure that that that piece is included when we bring in blue lives matter because I've also seen rallies around that, but really making sure that the context is there. So and why maybe why the opposition was there so really bringing in that historical component and what it means. And with public safety on is implicit bias and cultural proficiency and looking at impacts versus intent. So sometimes people feel like oh I'm doing this this piece or I'm advocating for this, you know, all lives matter. Okay. Yeah, of course all lives matter nobody's saying it's not. But the impact that it has is that you're devaluing other people of color who've been oppressed who felt very oppressed over the years so making sure that all those all that context is brought to light, and I hope that I kind of added some clarity and not confusion to this because it's a long topic. Yeah, I've been studying this work for the last 30 years to so it's been part of my world. So, okay. Thank you. Sorry. Thomas, you are muted by the way. I may want to unmute. Okay, sorry. Yeah, I said I totally agree with you. I think but you know I think both view those both groups need to be if we're going to talk about one I think we should talk about the other a little bit. Particularly if that's what the purpose is. I don't think we can really talk about one and not the other. So and then I don't know if you caught what I had said because I also said that that's important to have if we know I'm just we but we also need to have make sure it's context. It has context to it. Yeah, I totally agree. And now I was muted when I said, I thought, you know that I totally agreed with you. I just didn't want us to forget about it either. And that's why I brought it up. Because I think reminded me because I think I've seen the city, and I don't know how it's related to all of it, but was requesting membership people membership for kind of a police. Over now I won't say oversight committee but a police committee to the to review certain things with the police department. I mean this I read this a couple weeks ago so it's not real clear in my mind. So I think that made me think about it when I saw when I was looking at these exhibits. Thank you both that very, very helpful discussion. Thanks, sir. Oh, Eve, I think you're muted. Am I muted again. Oh no I'm, I'm just talking away and I'm on mute. I think what this brings up to me too is that I think, and I'm your Eric you're very good at this but it seems to me we could get carried away and get all sorts of things, like anything that's happening during coven, you know it's like okay what does day of the dead look like during coven and maybe that's still interesting and something that we should preserve but I mean you could. We got the grocery store you know I mean you could kind of get carried away and have, you know, examples of everything and maybe that's okay but you know I can see how you could sort of get carried away or get overwhelmed with, you know, every little bit minutia. Yeah, I did. Some people sent in photos of their dogs, and I decided that photos of dogs were not really connected as far as I could tell to what was going on now so I politely declined those and photos of birds and things like that. I tried to focus it on really the issues that we're dealing with now. I mean to me almost you know like the fires. It's not hitting long exactly, but there's you know the issues with the smoke and some of that kind of thing I mean those those things are all happening in a different situation because of the virus so maybe some of that is. I don't know I'm sure you'll figure out what we should have but it could be broad. Was that the end. Sorry, I don't have there are a couple more accession so if we could go back to the PowerPoint, and we can go to the next page. So these are now non non COVID related more more historical documents so we have a certificate issued by the Longmont Flying Service in 1945. Which is kind of cool just just before they opened Longmont Municipal Airport. They were in existence. The next one on this page is two maps of Boulder County. I was having a hard time that one of them is extremely large I mean it's about five feet long so a little hard to see in this but quite a nice map from 1902 in Boulder County. And then the other one that you can just sort of see off in the distance there in this photo is 1976 map which was just after kind of a rationalized and standardized all of the street names in Boulder County so one of the first ones where every road in the county had a name. And I believe next slide will be our last Eric I have a quick question about the large map printed it I mean what is the origin of it. It. It came from was hanging in Longmont City Hall for many years. I have to confess I actually have not yet completely unrolled it to see the name of the publisher but it looks to me like it might be a drums map Henry drum was a local map maker. I made a number of Boulder County and St. Rain Valley maps in in that time period. This one has that style. Thank you. And the last last item is there's a very interesting types manuscript. The author's experience with working with great Western sugar for you know 60 years really from from being a young boy in 1915 all the way up to 1975. The frustrating thing is he never gives us his name but he does at one point mentioned his father's name is JF Gerald so we know he's a son of JF Gerald but beyond that, not 100% certain who wrote it but still fascinating information. Been a program from the potpourri players. Now long month theater company from 1979 and a pamphlet making history with lamb. That was also owned by the all owned by the same same woman Barbara Connor. I've lived in Longmont for many years. That is all of the accessions any questions on on any of those. Thanks Eric, and thanks everybody for comments and questions I think that's very helpful to for us to talk about some of these things as they come up so that we're all on the same page. Is there a motion to accept these accessions I know that we accept the sessions. And is there a second. Okay. Go ahead. Okay, Rio will let you second. All in favor of accepting the these accessions entirely. I'll say I please or raise your hand or wave. Whatever our new thing is. Those opposed. Okay, so that's a unanimous approval of those accessions. Oh, there she is. Kim, if you'd like to give us your report, I'd be great. I'd be happy to. Hi, everybody. This was part of the packet that go and shared with you so I won't go. I won't read every word of it for you like I do, but I will try to get some of the highlights for you. We, I think we let you guys know a while back that we had applied for and received a museum assessment program which is a test that happens through the American Alliance of museums and the Institute of Museum. Library services and the friends of the Longmont Museum paid for that assessment for us. And then of course we had coronavirus hit so it's been weird, I will say, but we have basically completed all of the work on the assessment it starts with a self assessment so as a staff and a few outside folks like you. In a couple of those meetings. We had a whole series of questions that we answered and for the self assessment part of it. And then we submitted all of that information to peer reviewers and then we had to try to figure out how we were going to work with our peer reviewers through the pandemic. And we were lucky that one of them is from Colorado Springs. And so he actually was able to join us for a day. And then the other peer reviewer is from the Amon Carter Museum in Fort Worth and so he was remote. But I do think that we got some really, really good work done a lot of, you know, hard questions were asked and diving into some real nuts and bolts of who we are and who our visitors are. So they will take all of that information. And the two of them will write a report for us. And so we've really just finished that process. I think that really was part of one of the last meetings that we had. I think they've been very productive. Sort of information gathering meetings and so they will then issue a report and some suggestions. And they've said very clearly that there's nothing that stands out that we are doing poorly. It's just a matter of getting some outside perspective and some other professionals in the field to kind of look at what we're doing and give us some point to how to go to the next level. For us, really the next level is going to be looking at how we can get accredited by the American Alliance of Museums. And so this is one step in that process. And I think that there'll be some really pointed recommendations as far as that goal goes. And so we're looking forward to that. Let's see. On to the marketing and membership portion of that report we sent out you probably most of you got something in your mail, which was an annual appeal that we really focused on coronavirus recovery. And so from that annual appeal, we've gotten about $6,200 so far. So that's great. The very first night that that appeal went out, we got $1,000 through PayPal. So it was a nice entree into that endeavor. And then we've also gotten another grant of $3,000 from the Community Foundations Serving Boulder and that's for the Dia de los Martos, and then also another $1,500 from Boulder County Diversity Funds. So we've actually been doing quite well with some grants this year. So we're pretty thrilled about that because it's also a way that we'll be able to kind of offset some of the losses that we've seen with coronavirus. In our education department, we really are all over all day of the dead all the time. And so you may have participated in the virtual opening reception that happened when we opened the exhibit, which was very, very, I was tearful, like everybody was crying, it was so meaningful. It was hard to keep it together. It was so meaningful. And so that was really fun. We did a virtual opening, which was the first time we've ever done anything like that before. So there were some glitches, but we pulled it off and it came across as very authentic. So that was kind of, I think it worked out okay. And then the rest of the celebration is also going to be a virtual festival. And so up and end up being there's a kind of repository of different programs that will have that kind of expand even on what we've been doing in past years for Day of the Dead. And then we also did our first virtual school tour for the Day of the Dead exhibition. You all might know that we have typically our exhibit gets a lot of attention by school groups that come in. And this year, of course, that's very difficult to do. So Anne's been able to do these as a virtual school course. So that's, you know, I think kind of roll out even bigger later. She's also spearheaded 500 Dia de los Muertos kits, and distribution starts tomorrow. And basically those include all kinds of different things that you could do at your home to celebrate Day of the Dead. And so it's sort of an easy quick way to get all the materials and festivities that you need to celebrate Day of the Dead. So I'm picking mine up. You guys should too. They are going to be available at the museum at the library and then a few other locations as well. We've also with the grant that we received from the National Endowment for the Humanities, we've hired Scott Yoho as a digital communications specialist. And so he's been working very hard on that activity with the content for Dia de los Muertos and a lot of other things. Courtney Pletcher is also new to us. She is actually a VISTA volunteer. And a VISTA volunteer is someone that we contract with basically for one year. And she will be working with Ann in the education department. And so she's working right now on the projects that we are collaborating with, with the school district, with the mobile lab. You may recall, Boyoff will totally lost track of time, but we received or we gave $25,000 to the school district from the museum as a sponsorship for the mobile lab. And part of that arrangement is that we will have content on the mobile lab and there will be collaborations that are going to happen kind of for a three or four year period. And so that was, you know, it was on hold for a while because of coronavirus and now we're getting it kind of moving again. So we'll work on that. And what they're trying to do is to get a project going with fourth grade social studies students and their standards. And so they're targeting topics that are hard histories, if you will, like the Amanche Japanese internment camp, the Sand Creek Massacre, Buffalo Soldiers, that sort of thing. And they're trying to be able to create some programs that are able to deal with those hard topics in a way that kids can really come away with some good lessons. So then going on the discovery days, this is really exciting to us. I mean, there's so many things that are silver lining through all of this and I think it's a virtual program, and it's totally sold out. So they're doing 80 kits per month and there's a waiting list for it. So this has been a raging success. And we're very excited to be able to do these. Ann and Lee have really come up with some creative shifts for that program. And I think it's it's it's showing that people are responding to it. So we're really excited about that. And then on to Eric's section. You guys know that Elizabeth Baldwin has left us as the museum technician, and she she left to take on a curator's role. So we wish her the best, but one of she was working on when she was with us is the innovative women in Longmont on a virtual tour, the walking, the walking tour on the virtual app. So she was working on that and now that she's gone, Scott Yohoh is going to pick up the project and so we'll be able to finish that out. Eric's also got volunteers sort of coming in to the archives we've we're finally been able to bring volunteers back into the offices. But he's making sure that everybody is especially distance and the staggering things that no one is being put at risk. Eric has got two sets of proof for his book and so we're expecting that to show up soon. You guys may have seen that those are available for presale even now. And then I think we're going to try to get them in a couple of bookstores to even so that's going to work out really nicely we're excited to show up any day now sometime in November it should be here. Eileen has done conditional reports for outgoing and incoming artwork for the exhibits that we've covered and the gallery is in the galleries. And you should really take a look at it. We haven't already before the basically half the gallery is Tony Ortega's work and half the gallery is the alters for the day of the dad. And it's one of the best I've ever seen it's I mean it's such a great great exhibit and also augmented by a mural that Tony Ortega did on town that was installed on Friday. So as you're driving by on Main Street you should be able to see that in one of the breezeways so we're excited. Oh, let's see what I've been leading walking towards so again socially distance and masks but we're able to do those. So, you know the outdoors which makes that a little bit easier and to be able to adhere to the restrictions. But of course we've always got great people are itching to take those tours with Eric so he's he's done four of those. And then we also finished out on the two year old year long IMLS grant that helped us move the collections out to the new storage facility. And so that was sort of the final work that Elizabeth Baldwin did to finish up that grant and it we successfully moved and rehoused over 11,000 objects and photographs and over 8500 objects. So it was a big job and they were really really thorough in doing it so that's very cool. And one of these days we're going to have you guys come visit but as soon as we got the official occupancy certificate we've got a pandemic hit so we haven't been able to actually bring you guys out there. One of these days it's pretty out at the collection center. So I've already talked about a little bit maybe I'll just move on. Tony Ortega has been dreamed to work with so he Jared included some quotes in there from Tony. And then he also included a note that for the first time in six months the Exhibition Department did not have to make any barriers. BRAC have been cranking out plexiglass barriers for offices all over the city of Longmont to help people from the coronavirus. That work is kind of coming in but we were sort of the default for being able to fabricate those things said they really appreciate it. I'm sure by everyone. And then one other little note that we are also working with the Colorado State University on borrowing some making materials for the upcoming Impressionist. Impressionist show will feature prints from the Impressionist period and we wanted to try to demonstrate the process of printmaking so we're going to be borrowing some collections from CSU for that. So that'll be kind of cool I think to be able to see how the process works. And then you see there the auditorium updates we've had some really great successes in terms of moving those programs to an online format. We have had a handful of members who are coming in person to see some of those things because we have to limit the number of people that are in the auditorium. And then we also did have an in person frequent flyers aerial dance event. And so that was kind of a staggered attendance and bringing small groups of people through the museum and that was very successful. Let's see. Total of 19 programs that were live streamed and those 19 programs were viewed. So another silver lining for us is despite having to take these events online. What we're seeing is that we're getting a lot of engagement and you know there's no way we would have been able to host this many people in person. And so it's it is a very, very nice thing to be able to have these big that number of people that are joining us virtually and from all over the world they're joining us so that's nice. Thank you Parker Robinson with this and then the day of the dead opening reception was also virtual. We have had a couple of very small rentals. And we're getting some inquiries about additional ones. And so, again, there were limited enough capacity that we're making sure that we're keeping people at a distance when we are able to do those in person facility rentals. And then in terms of the sponsored programs. We worked with the Centennial State LA on their fall showcase to do some filming for them. Is there a question? Yeah, what else. October events have included Colorado poet laureate Bobby LaFever, which was quite a cool program. Activists and allies was a conversation with a couple of professors with a moderator talking about social justice and the history of race. And then tomorrow is a program called stranger than fiction, which is really a conversation with several writers, kind of reflecting on what we're living, living through at the moment. And so, really just a kind of reflection of how, you know, what's happening during this very, very strange time in our history. And then on the 29th, it's going to be a program about 100 years of women celebrating the suffrage movement and when separate. And so that I think is going to be a really cool program. We're trying to get Patty limerick to join us for that. That's not that's inside information at this point, but we're working on getting her on the panel as well. So that'll be a cool one. So then in for the visitor services section there and we had with our numbers are visitors have not been high so 130. The number of visitors down from August as we've been in the past few weeks that we were closed or basically closed for a couple of weeks and we did we have very little visitation while we were doing that. And over to the people will come and knowing that there wasn't anything in the rotating gallery. They would just leave. And so we didn't have a lot of visitors that all but we did have a really great September the 12th. We had 46 people come through and see Terry makers exhibit before it closed. And then let's see we had a really I don't think she included in here but we had for the day of the dead first free Saturday we had really big numbers I think we had something. Joanne do you remember all the cut of your head but Elizabeth said how many people we had. I don't remember. And that was that free Saturday. We're seeing our numbers increase really slowly but but nicely. Let's see. A lot of day of the dead stuff in our shop if you guys are interested in that including some of your take is artwork and then working on rec track for the maintenance on the back end. Our public places has a new installation or some major by Parker McDonald and that was installed in the breezeway between 3rd and 4th. You may have remembered this piece. It was actually on the tree great probably right around 3rd and 4th along Main Street. And we had borrowed it for the art on the move program and so it was installed here. And then everybody loved there was such great feedback about that sculpture that the public places commission and decided to buy that piece and so it's now a permanent part of the collection and it's permanently installed there. We also had that collaboration between us and our public places for the deal is March is near all that Tony created for us and there were 70 community over 70 community members that helped complete that work so that was a very very fun project. The last one there is the our public places task force is looking for new sites for 3 pieces, which will need to relocate as a result of the resilient St. Brain project. And so they're searching for new sites. That's all of the report. Does anybody have any questions me on that. All righty then. Thanks everybody. Great. Thank you. Kim I don't know what happens if it's when you get closer to your microphone or what but we kind of get garbled sound. So I don't know if it's your connection or sometimes it's fine. Sometimes it isn't so I don't know. Like right now I can't understand you at all. What. Read the report. How's that. It's great. Okay. Thank you. Let me know if you have questions. Great. Thank you. I do not have a report. I don't think we have any old business. So we'll move right into new business. Kim unless you want to take a drink of water or something. Since you've been taught. Okay you have to unmute to. Yeah. Okay. So I shared a couple of versions of this executive summary and then I shared right before the meeting and your email box. You see a sort of more pulled together but still draft version of this executive summary and for those especially who weren't with this. And when we were working on our strategic planning process we hired this has been several years ago now. We hired a guy named Mark orphan who does a process of strategic planning process at Fox which is basically a combination of strategic and operational to work on helping us develop. And we went through that process. And came up with a lot of initiatives that we wanted to work on as a me as a staff as a group. And what we discovered in doing all of that is that we it was internally we still found it difficult to talk about it. And so what we realized that we needed was a more kind of executive summary that pulled together all of the work that we had done through Stratops. So that's what I'm sharing with you now. It really is a draft and I welcome your feedback. I would like to have us adopt this at our next advisory board meeting. And so I would like to give you a little bit of time to spend with it and review it. I think it may be useful and I will do this and to look at those strategic planning documents as well. So that you get a little bit more background about what this what this executive summary is rising. Again, I think some of you we you saw some of that information but not everybody did. So I want to make sure that everybody is on the screen page with the Stratops. So I don't know if there's any initial feedback that anybody might have had based on the time that you've been able to look at this. But yeah, we had you. I just have one question. So just as sort of a general kind of a thing, the strategic plan from 2016 to 19, which is available on the museum website was in a, you know what I would say is fairly slick. The presentation form. I'm assuming that this plan is something that gets or a plan is something that gets shared when we are writing grants or when we're trying to get people to give us money, that kind of thing. So one question is the idea for the, this new strategic plan to have it eventually be in some kind of format, more like that, you know, rather than sort of spreadsheet. I'm just curious, like, is there a, how do you envision that looking when it's really done. I just wanted to say that I heard the question from a document that the Denver Museum of Paper and Science had put together, which really was the summary type information. And I just want to look different than that the previous plan. I think it needs a little bit more graphic design work on it. Thanks, I just was curious, you know, I'm not, I don't know what, you know, every museum strategic plan looks like, you know, or what funders are going to be expecting or whatever I would assume. So long as it's got information about what our plan is, you know, maybe it doesn't matter too much. If it's super slick. The, the thing that we are seeing is that more like this that what they are doing is they are looking at measures, and they're looking at updates continual. And they're meant to be living. And so if, if you start to look at additional plans, this is what I'm seeing over and over again is that the trend really is have more of these sort of graphs and charts. Okay, that's great. Yeah, I don't have that background. So that's, that's helpful. So, thank you. Anybody else have questions. But if you wouldn't mind just spending a little bit of time with it, we'll revisit it again at the next board meeting and hopefully we can stop it. And there are some things that I am waiting for yet from the friends. So you'll see some kind of placeholders in there. Certainly if you've got things that you think we need to add or if the change or something's not clear, just let me know because it's meant to be a tool for communication. So if you don't understand it, then that's a problem. Okay. That's great. So if we have questions, can we email you is that okay. All right, cool. All right, does anybody have any comments with regard to that or other comments or anything. Okay. Great. Well, then, is there a motion to adjourn. Okay, emotion to adjourn. Second. Okay, thank you very much. Tom, and all in favor of a journey. Raise your hand. Do something. Okay, great. Thank you. All opposed. Okay, so everyone is in favor of a journey and I thank you all very, very much for your time. And all your comments and I think this is still a little strange, but I think we're doing okay. So thank you. Have a good evening. You're doing great. Yeah. Have a good evening. Bye.