 But that doesn't mean in terms of aggressive expansionism that people always tunnel into. To give more of an idea as to why territory is pretty valuable, Napoleon didn't actually lose most of his troops because of Russian winter. He lost them because of logistics. The winter didn't really have much effect into the casualties of war. Russia used scorched earth doctrine. They weren't afraid to burn their own land. No country is. The United States, NATO is going scorched earth on any country that might be deciding to lean towards Russia Russia and China. So the United States, the doctrine in the West has really been this for the last number of decades. It's World War two. If you don't ally with the West, if you don't do what the West wants you to do, they will burn you down. So they're not even going to scorched earth on their own lands. They're going to scorched earth on other nations. As far as expanding, no. There's a certain point where you don't expand any further. You don't, logistically as you said it.