 okay great yeah we don't record and yeah I see some questions here in the chat let's answer these questions and then we will continue so John Paul asks casting out demons we do not need to mention where to go right some people say I'm sending you to where you came from what should be the right approach okay yeah good question John so what we see in scripture is that you see when demons responded to Jesus in Matthew 829 they cry out you know and they say what have we to do with you Jesus you son of God have you come here to torment us before the time before the time what time are they talking about if you go again to the book of Revelation Revelation chapter 20 where we read about the the culmination of thousand years so the thousand years at that time Satan is cast into a bottomless pit and then he is let out for a season towards the end of those thousand years but post that you know in Revelation 20 and verse 10 we are told that and the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever so you see that God has an end planned for Satan and you know needless to say the demons who are working together with him so they will be cast into their final destination is what the lake of fire not right now but after the the plan for this world unfolds so you know we have this age where we're living now and then you know there is we we know that Jesus has promised his second coming and you know we we know that there's going to be the Armageddon the battle and then the 1000 years the millennial reign and rule of Christ is something that we expect and after that after that comes the casting away of Satan and his demons and we know you know the renewal of the earth the new heavens the new earth so there is an order in which things are going to play out and that is why the demon that responded to Jesus said have you come here to torment us before the time so there is a time John okay so we've understood that so when we are casting out a demon I think it will be sufficient to say you know I cast you out in the name of Jesus and you kind of set that person free yeah I think that would be sufficient for us to do but then yeah I know some people say okay now you spirit you go here you go there but that's not that's not required that's not required or to say that now I cast you into the lake of fire because that's not something that we are authorized to do God is going to do that at the end of the age so we basically set the person free and that should be enough does that answer your question or yes but yeah thank you okay yeah thank you thanks John okay so Zalitoli has another question here and it says I have noticed some ministers of God while the minister to the demon possessed person they engage with them in conversation like who are you what's your name how long you are in this body so I'm wondering why they do so and is it necessary really necessary to dig into that instead of just setting that person free so Zalitoli it is not necessary but sometimes it can be helpful while we are ministering okay now in the case of Jesus we know Jesus asked and then this person responded saying we are Legion okay so there was a conversation but that's not his typical style now if you go and look at other instances where Jesus cast out demons he doesn't ask he doesn't know he just says okay come out right so it's not necessary all the time now where is it helpful no it can be helpful remember we said that demon spirits are very specialized so sometimes when you're casting out a demon and then you kind of feel like you're stuck like what is happening why isn't this demon coming out so for us to get some information that would be helpful we could do that and say who are you you know that can lead us to a better way of ministering to that person sometimes it happens I remember this one person okay and very interesting the time we had two or three of us you know we had gone to minister to a boy and this guy you know because of his background we had come from a lot of you know certain worship and this and that so he was bound by many demon spirits and we were ministering to him we were casting out spirits and there were quite a few spirits in him okay and I there was this one lady with us I don't even know she and she was operating by the gift of you know that the discerning of spirits it's it's a gift of the Holy Spirit so she was operating by that spirit and when we had cast out and I was thinking yeah he's fine you know he had fallen and he was looking like he was at rest and all and I was thinking yeah it's done you know we're ready to go now but she's like no no no I can see I can see there is this spirit there's a spirit of the snake and the spirit of I'm like what are you saying how do you know all these things are with him he's like she's like I don't know how to explain but it's still there can be minister for some more time and sure enough you know we were praying and the way he was behaving you know we could relate to what she was saying and you know some more spirits came out of that boy so what I'm saying is sometimes no zealot only it can be helpful but we shouldn't make it a practice only if it is required okay only if it is required you you ask that question and you might get an answer you can discern what kind of spirit is operational in that individual and then it you may be in a better position to cast it out so does it make sense yes that was very helpful thank you okay great yeah sure okay thanks zealot only really good question all right yeah so even Siddhkenu is asking the same question and I've read this somewhere that a certain preacher you know he cast out demons from a person and he wasn't sure whether there are still demons that exist so he just asked a question he just asked a question like in the name of Jesus you know I ask you because with authority he asked because you know when you go with authority they have to respond they are they are bound by that authority they can't do their own thing so he commanded them I command you to to reveal if you are still there and then the demon spirit started speaking and said yes I'm there you know I'm so-and-so and I'm still there so then he knew that he must continue to cast the spirits out and that the ministry to this individual is not over so you know in some instances you have to be discerning to use this and to make it like you know I I know what is Ellie is talking about and Siddhkenu is talking but sometimes it becomes a show it becomes like an entertaining activity where the person ministering is saying who are you where did you come from and the spirit is speaking back and the person is you know behaving in a certain way and people are watching all this taking place and they're thinking wow you know this is entertaining but that's not our goal isn't it what is our goal our goal is to honor God our goal is to glorify God our goal is to set that person free we're not here to put that person through you know that and whole process the shorter the process the better because that person is free now and we can minister to them strengthen them with God's word and help them you know go forward in life so yeah it's it's we have to really be discerning and that's what I would say it really good questions everyone any more any more thoughts questions it's good to clarify like this it makes the class interesting as well yeah go ahead go it's it you know ma'am I was having a question like whenever I am going to Jesus calls there is a certain there is a certain group of people every time any whenever whenever any the pastor is coming they will come they will say they are demon possessed when last time I went there there was a man he came and the pastor there paid for him he wept very badly he was lying down he was breaking chairs and after I left I that man took a new testament they prayed with him with an oil and he went I thought the demon is gone next day when I was there that man was there he was doing same things now so it's been seven times I have seen his dream his demon is not gone but whenever a pastor is praying for him he says like now I am free I am feeling light-burdened my thing inside me is gone I am free now but I don't know it is there is a no complete solution so what we can do in this kind of situations yeah yeah good good question you see you know to recognize whether the person is really set free and that's why I'm saying no that we really have to grow in in that discerning of spirits we have to operate by the authority the believers authority but also the gifts of the spirit okay so we will get better at this now is it possible that we think we have cast out one demon sorry and it is still around it is possible okay now this individual it is possible that people prayed for him and you know maybe they cast out some spirits but they didn't cast out all spirits okay so that also is a possibility but the good thing is to keep ministering so early on when I was studying about believers I thought you know I've read this book from Derek Prince what's it called and he shall cast out demons or something like that it's titled that so he talks about we'll go to all this later okay we'll go to all this much later but in the minister of Jesus it seems like it was immediate come out and the demon came out but for whatever reason when we minister deliverance sometimes it can be a long process you know it can be something that happens over hours it can be something that happens you know today I'm ministering to the person but you feel like it's not over you know I still need to I can sense that there's still some demons there or all that so what you can do is you can minister the next day you can minister for a couple of days till the person is completely set free so in practicality you know when it comes to the ministry of deliverance it can happen over time so now we don't know about this one particular individual maybe there's still some demons in there and people need to minister continue to minister to him you know so all that is there there's also this thing about the will of the individual okay our minister of deliverance is only as successful as the will of the person now let's say I'm ministering to this person okay and everything is operational in me you know Holy Spirit gifts of the Spirit believers authority and I'm casting out and all but this person is thinking to himself I don't want to be free I'm happy like this now if that person does not have the will the demon will not come out I can I can minister for days weeks months nothing will happen so the will of the person is also something so in some cases you know we may have to spend time with that man we may have to teach him God's word we may have to show him see this is what Jesus has done for you he wants an abundant life for you you're going through all this are you ready you know to to let Jesus set you free are you ready you know we have to work with that person maybe teach him the Word of God a little bit before you minister deliverance you know and that might make a huge difference to the individual so you know there's all these dynamics all these dynamics and so in the very specific case it was logged out hopefully you'll see the recording so in this specific case it's hard to tell why this individual continued to behave the way he did okay now here's the last thing I told us that everything is not a demon okay everything is not a demon so sometimes okay sometimes what happens is we think a person has a demon but it could be that they have a mental health condition okay or you know the other day I I just happened to be at the emergency and I saw this one person coming and full chaos he was screaming shouting he looked like you know he his hair was disorderly his clothes were disorderly and he came in and my first thought was man seems demon possessed you know but then the doctors were ministering to him and then he kind of calmed down so then I was like hey yeah he could just have had you know like he probably has a mental illness and maybe he hasn't taken his medication right or it could be that later my sister was with me and he kind of almost after a while he kind of just sobered down and my sister was saying well maybe he was under the influence substance abuse maybe he he consumed something and he's reacting like so there are many reasons to look at somebody who's acting you know weird and just every time say your demon possessed I have to cast out a demon would be wrong it would be wrong so yeah it could just be that individual and you know sometimes it's also that some people behave like that every other meeting they behave weird I don't know maybe maybe they need to be taught God's word to to secure them in God's word and say that you know you're already set free and you don't have to it's in their control you know but they behave as if there is a demon affecting them so you see there are all this there's this whole range and which is why whenever we read about demonology believers authority there is no formula even if a person has cast out demons a thousand times the next time that we are going to cast out a demon we have to depend on the Holy Spirit we have to depend on God we have to humble ourselves before God because we don't know the formula for this individual you you understand so it's such a it's a very humbling sort of firm ministry you have to humble yourself before the Lord and say God you show me how to minister to this individual and for all you know the way you're ministering to this thousand and one person is come completely different from all your thousand experiences okay so yeah it's it's like that and I really hope all these insights help us okay so you know you got locked out for a little bit but I hope your question is answered yes ma'am okay nice very good okay yeah thank you everyone it's really interesting and good to you know try and understand things in a nice way so that we we can actually apply it in our lives all right okay now let's move on if you have questions you can always ask stop me anytime and ask me but we'll continue with our notes here I'm on page 19 we have a describe the personality of Satan with the different names that describe him there are also kinds of demonic spirits and this is in line with what we were saying there are specialized spirits you know sometimes people say Jezebel spirit of Jezebel or this spirit that spirit people use descriptors to explain the activity of those spirits so what is spirit of Jezebel see spirit of Jezebel when you go back and study about the life of Jezebel you know that she had many you know she had people under her who were engaged in witchcraft and they the the through the the whole sorcery witchcraft what she was able to do is she was able to intimidate okay she was able to intimidate she was able to control manipulate right using those spirits so when someone says spirit of Jezebel that's what we understand the activity what activity is going on seducing controlling manipulating you know sorcery witchcraft so those kind of things come under that spirit of Jezebel so similarly when you read scripture and you know in the New Testament you have so many spirits that that are referred to that is the spirit of Antichrist Apostle John talks about it what is the spirit of Antichrist spirit of Antichrist is a spirit that says that Jesus is not God okay now the spirit of Antichrist might try to prove that Jesus is not God by saying he was never really fully man you know he was always God so his death is not true death so there are people who subscribe to philosophies like that but then Apostle John says the spirit of Antichrist is at work in this world the proving that Jesus was not fully man or proving that Jesus was not fully God he was only man you know whenever there is an interference with who Christ is that is the spirit of the Antichrist okay so yeah so there are people that the spirit of Antichrist is trying to convince you know that that Jesus is not truly God so in the last days we know that these are the kind of spirits that are working because they don't want people to believe in Jesus Christ they don't want people to receive their salvation so when we pray write spiritual warfare when we pray we say okay we buying the spirit of Antichrist you know things like that so how does all this help it helps us as the Holy Spirit guides us and leads us and shows us hey come on this is what you're fighting you fight like this okay it really helps us gear up in that manner so spirit of Antichrist deceiving spirits doctrines of demons okay these are all terms that are used in the New Testament so can there be demons that give doctrines yeah they can right so they can provide a whole philosophy or a teaching but what is the test of that philosophy isn't drawing me close to God if it's not then you know this is not from God it's taking us away from God okay but if there is you know the truth of God's Word which is drawing us closer to God helping us grow in God we know that that is you know the truth of God's Word that is scripture so in this manner we can analyze what is going on you know why why is this teaching being propagated in the certain community doctrines of demons things like that okay so just for our discernment and just for our understanding jealous spirit that's also another term that you see so when you see sometimes no the activity is in the name in the name itself so when you hear a like a name people use all kinds of and you know some some of the latest Christian teachings that I have heard people have so many names Leviathian spirit and something something spirit and something something spirit well don't get very caught up in that you know if that name helps us minister well and good if not to just do a PhD in all you know there is this spirit and that spirit how does it help okay so it's it's good not to get caught up you know too much in those things so there are a lot of new names not just scriptural names but you would hear you know new names of demon spirits but here in scripture I'm telling you some spirits that we see jealous spirit so with the name itself you can identify the activity what would it do it causes jealousy right it causes jealousy among people what does jealousy lead to jealousy leads to murder isn't it maybe physically but people slander others people put down others and we know in the case of Cain and Abel what happened it started with unforgiveness bitterness jealousy and here was Cain and then murdered his brother okay but jealous spirit spirit of jealousy familiar spirit familiar spirit is a lot of people talk about the spirit familiar spirit is the spirit that kind of knows us it knows our weaknesses as individuals every individual we have our own strengths we have our own weaknesses so a familiar spirit knows so it kind of you know leads you into error by knowing the kind of person that you are so sometimes I have been to meetings where people say okay pray cast out the familiar spirit nothing wrong with it if that if the person is being led to pray that I've prayed that over myself in Jesus name every I pray the hold of every familiar spirit upon me in the name of Jesus okay so it's useful it's useful in knowing the activity and then kind of breaking that activity of the particular spirit okay so familiar spirit blind spirit these spirits not just affect us emotionally in our soul realm but they could also affect us physically so maybe an individual is in the in the Bible we know when Jesus cast out the blind spirit the person could see okay so they can also cause like physical illnesses sicknesses deformities disabilities so if the Holy Spirit is showing us or this person's blindness is because of a spirit as soon as you cast out they will be free from that issue or mute spirit dumb spirit you cast it out they are free from that issue so we see these names blind spirit deaf and dumb spirit spirit of infirmity in this case I think spirit of infirmity is used when there is that lady know who is bound and Jesus says woman thou art loosed so the spirit of infirmity or the sickness over her body and when the spirit came out she became straight you know so you see there are there are issues that people are going through which are merely natural you know it can just be merely if I have a common cold and I'm coughing coughing coughing it's not a spirit of coughing I'm just coughing because I'm in this physical body and I have issues but you see that can that can be spirits that cause a particular sickness in this case Luke 13 that woman was bound the spirit bound her spirit of infirmity and the moment you cast out the spirit she became straight okay so physical challenges can also be caused by demon spirits then unclean spirit come out unclean spirit unclean spirit could have to do with you know I specifically do not know maybe evil thoughts and you know evil suggestions and things like that in one's mind so unclean spirit Jesus cast out unclean spirits foul spirit spirit of disobedience spirit of divination divination is future telling that woman that the lady that woman is to I think Paul yeah Paul in Ephesus she had a spirit of divination she was telling people's future okay but you see Satan always has a counterfeit we know that in in in scripture we have prophecy which is good which is which which is from God but Satan creates a counterfeit something opposite spirit of divination that is from the demonic world future telling so nowadays we have all this right like new age and so many things where people's tell future or or you know or if not the future they they say things like oh I know this happened in 1953 this happened in your life that happened in your life is it possible yes it is possible because demon spirits can get old information and we must recognize that demon spirits cannot tell the future they might they might probably say something based on what you have revealed so let's say for example somebody wants to become a lawyer okay and this person is in the law school and this and that and then they go to someone you know some future telling person and the future telling person says are you are you planning to become a lawyer I see that you know you you are going to be a lawyer how does this person know only God knows the future okay because God is all knowing Satan does not know the future and his demon spirits do not know the future but what can they do they can kind of play a game a deceiving game and give bits and pieces here and there and it sounds like they're telling you your future okay putting pieces together so you know things like that spirit of divination is is from the wrong source that is the kingdom of darkness there is a prediction being made that this is gonna happen that is going to happen so there are spirits of divination that that do these activities there are lying spirits there's a perverse spirit I'm not going into details okay because just their name itself tells you what they do power spirit spirit of heaviness sometimes it happens people it's not even just mental depression it's not just that even after medication counseling you find the person is not better maybe there is a demonic root to this issue spirit of heaviness constantly feeling down constantly but when you cast out the spirit what happens you see a sudden change oh wow how did this person you know become normal and joyful because the spirit of heaviness was cast off of this individual spirit of harlotry spirit of bondage spirit of fear spirit of error okay so I want to tell you this in my personal experience it has happened there was this one time in my life it was pretty challenging you know that was the time when my mother was diagnosed you know with cancer and so many things were going on and it was very like a very fearful I was fearful about what's gonna happen you know what's gonna happen to me this and that and I think I kind of let that work too much in my in my heart one day I still remember I still remember I was sitting and I think I had given my thoughts to this pattern of fear what's gonna happen to her what's gonna happen to me what's gonna happen to the future what's so I'm sitting and I'm thinking about my job and my this and that about money I just became fearful and fearful and more and more and more fearful and I felt like you know I'm going deep into the fear and it did feel normal it felt like yeah I am fearful but it felt like something more is attached to my normal sense of fear see fear is normal okay there's nothing wrong with that we all have you know some level of fear but this was also feeling like I am there is an extra pressure you know over my my thought process and I was just praying and I was saying Lord help me to come out of this help me to come out I'm not able to come out of it and feel I could feel the fear and I could feel like I'm going to I was shivering almost just sitting by myself nobody was doing anything to me but I was almost shivering and I remember having a mobile phone in my hand and I said Lord Jesus please help me I don't know what is happening to me and I just want somebody to pray with me I just want somebody to pray with me and those days I used to listen to like a series a prayer series on the phone and I suddenly just tuned into that I went to that that place and in that a person would pray online he would pray online he would say okay whoever is listening to me agree with me this is what God's word says and it is the most amazing thing he was praying against the spirit of fear and I don't know it was all just so miraculous he just started saying that whoever is listening to me agree with me we bind the spirit of fear in the name of Jesus and pray together with me to cast the spirit out lay your hands on yourself it was all so prophetic and I was like yeah yeah I need this I really need this and I you know put my hand on myself and I said I cast out the spirit of fear in the mighty name of Jesus I like literally prayed over myself and I still remember till today it was like that I was in deep fear and in moments I was able to breathe I was able to like you know feel better and feel free and I knew what was happening to me those moments was not normal or natural there was a spirit of fear which had sort of gained entry because I was entertaining thoughts of fear the whole time you know and I took authority in Jesus name and God really helped me and I broke off of that that you know that's the activity of the spirit of fear over my life so you know things like that you can how does the name help the name helps to recognize the activity and then you can break it okay so I'm sharing with you you know some practical things and this might really help us okay use what we are learning okay just some additional thoughts there that we are going to touch on before we wrap up today's class there is a comment here by Siddhkenu he says man I have seen in my neighborhood and in North India it happens when a baby is born the parents take their baby to the temple and the saint in the temple they tell everything about a child's life by considering his time and month of birth and looking at star and planet and they say 94% it is true is this at demonic so yeah Siddhkenu for us believers no this kind of future telling it's not it's not a godly thing okay it is demonic where is all this information coming from see basically the source if it's not from God then where is it from it is from the demonic realm okay so yes it is demonic and talking about the accuracy of somebody saying as I told you Satan is finite he does not know the future but he can gauge okay so whatever is being spoken things of the past yes it can be very accurate because Satan knows he has spying spirits he can find out what did you do last night what did you have for dinner last night he would know but to say exactly what is going to happen in one's future Satan can't do that so how accurate are these things that are told to people I don't know I don't know but there's also this thing of you know a lot of people believe they believe in these things yeah because I am like you know I'm from this category of the stars my personality is like so when you believe obviously those things happen isn't it so a lot of people believe in these things and thereby things manifest in their lives so it could be because of that okay I hope it my answer was helpful so you know yes moment was helpful okay nice nice good okay joy I see your hand raised you have something to say yeah thank you I would I wanted to add something or what you're saying and it's that when you go to these places and participate into the those things you are like giving like Satan and he's the morning powers to have like power over your life either because you are participating on that it's like when God says to the people to his people like don't do what the gentiles or the pagans or and because if you participate on that you will just have something with them so it's like to have some with with Satan when you go to do these things so it's because the things that they say happened because you give dominion to them about your life when you're participating with them in this kind of meetings or reunions so that's why in even though in that moment you can just bring access to them to put some spirits on your life because that has happened in my family and it's actually what you know I'm an example like my mom was about to lose my brother and she went to a person who was able to bring it back to life and the thing that this girl did was to split on his mouth some kind of alcohol and my brother has been dealing with this issue for whole his life like being in that alcohol even having this problem until the Holy Spirit just revealed to us that it was because of that participation that my mom had when he was a child so my brother used to say like it's like something that it's not me it's like it just have dominion over me because I don't just don't want to keep drinking but it's like something bigger than me and then after he rebukes that like he rejected that spirit of alcoholism he could be free from that so I just wanted to add that yeah thank you thank you Joy thank you for sharing the experience that brings a lot of clarity to us as we learn about the subject and so thank you so much for sharing your story yeah and it's true as Joy is saying sometimes people give the access people give the authority they give the right over to these spirits and then things start manifesting in their lives and they say it's true it's true you know it says like this and it's true but why is it happening it's happening because the individual or the community they have given access to certain spirits to work in their lives so that's how you know these spirits operate so now we've looked at the fact that they are specialized they have names they have specific activities that they're engaged in and discerning that can help us get free from them now moving on a little more information about these spirits would be that demons believe and tremble before God that's what James 2 19 says even demons know God and they tremble before him so you see in the in the spiritual realm in the spiritual realm there is there is complete recognition of which kingdom you know a person belongs to and these demon spirits though they have their own hierarchy in the kingdom of darkness they know that God is above everything they know you know that that God is that that ultimate creator and scriptures tell us that they tremble they tremble before God we see that there are this is additional information so it's not necessarily in order but it will give you a better understanding we also see that demons have degrees of wickedness and degrees of power so if you just go back to the scripture that John read when we started today's sessions in Matthew chapter 12 a spirit that is cast out of a person goes into arid lands and it brings seven was seven spirits what is the explanation more weekend than the original spirit so that tells us there are levels of wickedness maybe some are engaging in some simpler activities some are a little more complicated in what they do so there are levels and degrees of activity of these demon spirits so that's why I'm telling us there is no formula we have to walk with the Lord and that is what the ministry of deliverance is all about okay so even when you're talking about spirit of fear maybe you cast out spirit of fear which is at a certain level and you're ministering to someone else some other level of the spirit of fear you know so there are all these levels of wickedness and so we really have to discern and walk with the Lord and notice here that you know the spirit goes out and if the person has not become born again and if the person is not you know walking like listening to the truth of God's Word and being transformed so that clean house okay the spirit of that person is completely aligned to the truth of God's Word and filled with the Holy Spirit if that's not happening then you know that it comes back with seven other spirits okay so this also gives us an understanding that you know whenever there are demon spirits operational they try to do teamwork okay and I don't know how good this teamwork is but it's like if there is I remember earlier I said unforgiveness and as a believer I'm not getting rid of the unforgiveness it can go to higher degrees of unforgiveness within me in the natural sense but if I give access to the spirits then they can be a spirit of unforgiveness operational now this bit of unforgiveness will not operate by itself it can bring in other spirits it can bring in you know spirit of bitterness spirit of jealousy spirit of murder spirit of so then they're all are working as a team and that individual is tormented you know by all of these and that is why it's best never to give access even this much ground to wrong sinful habits okay because it opens the door for so much more to take this okay so things like that so these demons have degrees they operate in groups and teams then demons have a will freedom to choice and that seems very weird like oh why would God still allow them to have a will but it's true remember when Jesus cast out the spirit he from that man in gatherings they told Jesus where they wanted to go please please make us to go into the pigs so they chose and Jesus is it okay you go you go into the pigs so they have a freedom of choice they do what they want to do they decide okay and they have a will of their own demons no believers who walk in authority remember the how did the demons address Jesus they say oh we know who you are we know who you are why have you come here to torment us so what is happening they're recognizing this man with authority okay and similarly if you look at the story of Paul in Acts chapter 19 when the sons of Skiwa come to cast out demons they say hey Paul Jesus we know Paul we know who are you you know in the in the spiritual realm we don't recognize you you're not born again you are not having the authority of God you have no authority who are you so they recognize authority and you know people with spiritual authority in the in the realm the spiritual realm these demon spirits and then okay there is a comment by Joy Joy I'll just quickly wrap this up and then you know I'll come to you the next thing is that some people think that demons are the spirits of dead people but we've already clarified Bible says that Satan and his demons one third of this demons were cast here into the I mean they came to the world and you know they are the ones who operational here so to say that when people die the spirits are wandering around it's not biblical because the people who are in Christ Jesus Paul says to be absent in the body is to be present with the Lord so where did the spirit of that person go the believing person it went straight to the presence of God so that's very reassuring for us now those who are not born again where does their spirit go Jesus taught so many sermons on hell you know it's a reality it's a reality those who die without Christ they go to hell but of course we know that you know there's going to be a final final judgment but until that until such time they are in Hades they are in hell and then again they come out again they are judged and then they go into eternal you know banishment so that's that's the thing so to say that demon spirits are spirits of dead people it's not biblical demon spirits are not spirits of dead people they are disembodied spirits that are functional operational here on the earth okay and demon spirits understand that time on the earth remember John's question so we are not here commanding them to be cast into the fire because there is a time that God has set for them to be cast into the fire and that is why the demon spirits when they talk to Jesus they say why have you come here to torment us before our time okay so they know right now what is the time we do a maximum activity of destruction in the world you know don't interfere with us that's the attitude that they carry but you know you we we have to take our authority against them so they know their final they know that time they know their final destination which is you know eternal destruction then yeah there are some fallen angels that are caught up in Hades there is scripture references to that as well so not all are here on the earth but there are some that are caught up in Hades and then demons influence all the spheres of human existence whether it is the field of business arts media politics health education culture morals they they have an influence and we as gods people have to shine the light and we have to have a greater influence than these demonic powers okay one minute left so joy please go ahead joy did you want to say something just I have two questions but one okay the first is I had this experience and twice it has happened to me like when I try to pray for someone that it doesn't seems like he is possessed but then when it's like when I am about to put my hand on them they just start to manifest so they but they just go away as picking blasphemies towards God and I have seen like this kind of behavior on people like demons manifesting to them just when they see authority they they avoid the Christian right but what happened when you have these visitations overnight like this this spirit that try to intimidate you and just to don't let you sleep and just put some other stuff in you I don't know like doesn't like yeah trying to intimidate you overnight and they are like feel like stronger but when they recognize you know about talking about authority of the Christians how is this that some of them flew away but there are these others that just go and try to have like this infiltration with you that's yeah okay yeah yeah thanks thanks joy that's again you know interesting so you see the other thing about demons when we study about ministry that time we will see that they can be very stubborn okay they remember we said they are disembodied spirits once they get a place they don't want to leave it so they will they will fight to stay they will fight to stay but for us as believers it's enough for us to know that we have the authority sometimes we see them leave immediately sometimes it takes a little more you know effort from our side to keep ministering to keep standing on God's word and keep using our authority but keep doing it sooner or later they have to they have to given to God's word but it is true that sometimes it takes a while because these spirits are very stubborn they don't want to leave the activity that they are engaged in so I hope that helps you joy that answers your question yeah but I was asking like for these demons that okay I like I don't have them but they try to I don't know if it's like to start a fight with the Christian or they're just like be sitting overnight just to don't let you rest or like waking you up or all this stuff you know like and sometimes they are easy to cast out and some other times it's like harder in the presence of them it's like heavier than the others I don't know how to explain that but it's what I had happened to me like how is that that some of them like flew away like really quick in the other ones are like it's like if they were more powerful in just like you know like they stay longer than they should even though they know you're Christian and you have certain authority over them yeah sure sure so see joy it's like here on the earth we are living in a battlefield and do such things happen do these spirits come to intimidate us disturb us yes you know it could happen and it happens they don't let you rest they don't it's fine like I mean it happens but every time something like this happens for us as a believer instead of going into oh my gosh like goodness what is this instead of going to that just take your authority if you sense that yes I'm having you know this is going on I know this is demonic you just take authority speak aloud and say I take authority in the name of Jesus I bind the spirit that is intimidating me that is disturbing me causing restlessness in the name of Jesus I command you to leave so each time you just take authority that's all does it happen yes it happens many times and what you said some leave right away some more they they continue to you know press more so that's what I'm saying it depends on the kinds of demons but some are more stubborn whatever the case just stand your ground that's the whole point keep standing your ground sooner or later they have to bow to you because the authority of Christ is very real they can play around not for too long they have to they have to leave yeah so yeah yeah thank you thank you and I have the question I have another question okay okay yeah joy if okay go ahead let me see if I can accommodate it quickly because the others are also waiting on the call yeah okay okay is this like in in Genesis we see like how about the fighting angels who came together with women right so I used to think that they were like demons like having this this understanding but who are them they like you said and in the teachings like they are not demons but who are them so because the Bible talks about them yeah sure joy you know I get that but you could just take them as another category of you know the angels they they're not demons because we're talking about disembodied spirits and you see their activity was completely different isn't it they married I mean they so Nephilim I think and there's like a whole range of teachings about those beings as well but I don't see there's no consequence for us as believers from those teachings so okay yeah so it's different joy if you okay it's like they don't have anything to do with us like no no no we're talking about disembodied spirits and their activities demons okay yeah so yeah thank you everyone that was an interesting class and let's let's keep it you know active do come up with your practical questions here and we'll continue with the rest of the subject soon and yeah February I need to post your assignments so hopefully this semester it'll be a little more on time compared to the last semester okay so yeah please go through your notes study everybody and we'll I'll catch you in the next session next Friday okay thank you bye for now God bless thank you Buster bye thank you thank you bye thank you God bless you bye thank you bye God bless you thank you pastor thank you thank you brother thank you bye