 Hi, I'm George Kau. I'm happy to be here with Steph Lagana. First of all, let me say hi to you Steph. Thanks for being here. So excited to be here. Thank you. Yeah, so I'm excited to have this conversation with you because we are kindred spirits for sure We both serve our clients in terms of both the kind of business side of things and also to bring us more spiritual element into it So I'm really excited to kind of have this discussion with you Hear more about what kind of work you do with your clients. How what are some of the ideas that have been really Transformational for them and anyway everyone watching this. I think you'll you'll find this be an uplifting conversation. So Steph before we go on I'm going to share your bio with everybody and so people know some context for where you're coming from so Steph is a former national security staffer turned business strategist and spiritual teacher now That's already very interesting. You can just stop there. No, she helps energy sensitive entrepreneurs Which I know a lot of you are watching this create businesses. They love Her clients have watched all the webinars, you know that are out there But they're worried that they aren't cut out to be an entrepreneur and Steph helps them to finally get their message out into the world and build their business in the way that feels connected to their soul and Steph's got a great website. It's called mythical enterprises calm And let me actually just start there if it's okay Tell me about the story behind mythical enterprises calm like why mythical enterprises? It is the most random thing. So I was really hyped about this idea of being a digital nomad I don't know if you remember that like in the late 2000s. There was so much conversation Right at any time before the pandemic. It was big That's fair. It's been like a little sine wave, you know, just and 2011 I bought that domain and I was thinking that I would be sharing like poetry and stories of legendary adventures So it was mythical in the sense of legendary and I had no idea what I was going to do with it It was just something that felt really bright deep in my bones And so I bought it on January 11th 2011 and I look back at that and I go that was it There was a curve That I served in my path as a part of that. That's so cool I it's general. I I've always the one one ones have followed me for many years It's so strange there. There are periods of my life where they will pop up in Groups and actually it just had just happened a few days It stopped a few stopped maybe two days ago, but it was like suddenly for three four days It would just be in being in group and then it would stop and then it would come back again And it's it's the weirdest thing, but I love the science and synchronicities. Yeah, totally totally Okay, so there's so much to talk about I want to ask You know, you bring spirituality into business and I'd love to know how you mean by that There are a couple things I'll ask you particularly, but I'll kind of let you start to share What what do you what is why is it important to bring our spirituality into our work and our business? So the people that I serve are definitely steering by an internal compass. Yeah, and so when money becomes the point all Navigation systems go astray Everything gets wonky and I think it's really important to acknowledge that different things serve different people And I'm here to give people options. I'm here to create space for people that aren't served by the very dominant very aggressive hustle and grind culture The people that I serve are the people that are totally lit up when they think about serving other people and when they think about like the positive powerful impact that they can make in the world and so when they set up Goals that are only linked to money. Everything shuts down. It's like this amazing lighthouse and all of the bulbs blink out and things don't work. I Love that. Yeah, so So you have you have a couple of sort of specific things you work on with clients and I want you to talk about that a little bit one is Energetic allies and another one is kind of the spiritual disciplines You could start either place, but I just think it's fascinating and and so yeah I think it's a really kind of interesting way to bring the practice of spirituality into into business Yeah, it's fascinating and I feel like so juiced that I get to do it It's like all of the books that I read about like fantasy or science fiction have come to life I was an adult is I I didn't have any sort of religious upbringing as a child So I introduce people to the soul of their business Yeah, an energetic ally called the divine program manager To their spiritual board of directors and all of these things if you were to take 30 60 90 seconds and just sit in a place that felt supportive to you whether it's at home or outside You too could connect to these things I have specific guided visualizations that I take people on but I very much believe that the energies are out there and that You can work with these allies and they can support you as you move forward So for instance, I offer an invitation for people to do this work I have a free challenge on my website to meet the soul of your business, but you can also just tune in and connect And also talk with it, you know, like work with the energy of the soul of your business Maybe it has no Specific concern about the current project that you're working on and helps you see that you're not actually that interested in it And you were doing it because you thought you were supposed to So there's all sorts of like juicy space. There's like this richness that happens using these Energetic allies, I find that mindset work is really useful And there's all sorts of ways that we can move forward but guided visualizations seem to surpass a lot of the shenanigans that happen in our brains and So the guide of visualizations is something you do one-to-one with clients or have you recorded these or how does that work? I do I have a whole series of recorded visualizations Most of them are in this business building program I have an incubator that's nine and a half months because it really I feel like it does take a period of time To to give birth to your business your solar business and become the next level version of yourself But yeah, I do visualizations all the time and for me It really is about connecting people with energy in a significant way So I have a lot of strange But effective intuitive abilities and one of them is Bringing in energy that's very supportive for people that they aren't connected with yet So the energetic allies and the ones that I have Established like connecting people with the soul of your business or the divine program manager And you can just have a sheet of paper on your desk every day where you ask for help from her Normally, it's her for the people that come into my world, but certainly doesn't have to be But then I'll also do other visualizations. There's something about my ability It's almost like we're all together in this really beautiful house, and I'm really good at opening up the windows And this fresh energy comes in that's really clarifying for people and Helps them connect in a really deep way to what they want, but there's like some fog You know that's surrounding them, and it's just the noise of everyday life. Yes Fascinating and divine program manager Tell us about that. It's funny because I mean you have a you know, you national security background. It's like very Now that's maybe I'll just go on a tangent a little bit here. Did you reveal these abilities or these This philosophy when you were in that role or no My gosh, it was like I was commuting every day between two different planets Yeah, yeah, it was it was very strange And actually this is my second business my first one Completely collapsed, you know in flames of glory and was only about connecting with the spiritual world And so I left the government in 2016 and there wasn't a home for me that fit all of me in my business But now that I sit at the intersection of business and spirituality So for me, it's very much the bridge between left brain and right brain. All of me has a home Yeah, so it's very it's very different from the worlds that I used to walk in but the divine program manager is amazing so I have this guided visualization and The way that I do guided visualizations is very different From the ones that I've been exposed to through the course of my life because I don't tell people what to see 90% of the time I ask them what they see Which connects with just this creative part even if you don't believe in energy even if you don't believe in Allies and the unseen there's this way that when our creativity is engaged we're able to dial really deeply into our intuition because our our Chattery left brain calms down It has to in order for our intuition and our creativity to engage and so there's this way that this really strong information shows up And it's just really fun anytime. I think that you can give people space not to have to do all of the things And and be on track for that burnout culture. I just think it's incredible treasure Wow, yeah, that's beautiful. I like that you are tapping into the client's own Creative imagery, you know, that's really cool. So you also help clients develop a spiritual discipline It's helps their work. I'm sure it helps your life, too But tell us about that. What is what is a spiritual discipline that you recommend or how does that work? Yeah, and so it's kind of related to the visualizations in that I'm helping people tap into What's inside of them and what wants to happen, but it's also about Whatever I can do to help my clients and my audience reclaim their sovereignty in a world that tells them Everybody else has a better opinion not talking about systems or medical expertise But like sovereignty over your own life, you know, like what's the best decision for you in any particular specific situation? The spiritual discipline is this vibrational anchor. It's something that is practical, but it's also energetic So it's a maximum of 10 minutes a day So it's somewhere between five to ten minutes and I get people that show up that might have a whole bunch of practices Like they're doing some sort of, you know 90 minutes of movement and then they're meditating and so some people just need to sit down or be in nature and not ask anything else of themselves and you know be in that space of Simplicity and clarity and then I get other people who are very rebellious, which I absolutely identify with and They need a selection of things that they can choose from as opposed to doing one thing over and over again the same thing over and over again because that doesn't It doesn't light them up. It doesn't energize them. So it can look like so many different things. And I love that because it shows just like the vibrant spectrum of humanity. Like I have people that have colored in coloring books And I also have people that have done journaling automatic writing. They've they've done meditation. I've had people that have done dance parties. And so it's just a way of really plugging back in to oneself and there's, I mean, you see this. There's so much noise in our world and There's a lot of chaos. So being able to plumb our own depths and get really still and clear and connect back to our core essence. Frames the world that we walk in and creates this This really beautiful path. So it's a lot less cluttered. It's a lot more joyful things make a lot more sense when you anchor into yourself first and then navigate your day. That's beautiful. Yeah, that's, that's great. I love that. And Yeah, I'm really I love that you allow the clients to come up with some practice that really works for them. And again, you kind of help them to discover that or rediscover that And so I'm curious how this now, you know, let's say the client has done the spiritual discipline is connecting to Well, the so the divine program manager is is as a connection that happens in the beginning of the day. What happens during the day itself. So, so And I'm connecting this also to the way that mainstream work usually happens, you know, hustle and grind that kind of stuff. Right. So just thinking through a particular day for a client or say a sample day. When they get to work when they are doing their business and they feel some resistance or they feel like, oh my gosh, I have all these things to do. What, how do you advise them or what's the, what should they do at that point. And they meet resistance. Well, sometimes resistance is an obscured no. It's a no that we are body knows and that our heart knows our soul knows that social conditioning is telling us should be a yes, and so there's this tension between, I know what I'm supposed to be doing. And I know, I know what I feel like. And so then it becomes this impasse. So I think that's really important for us to be able to know what I feel like. And so then it becomes this impasse. So I think that's really interesting because sometimes we talk about resistance and we don't recognize there's this translation that we're not doing, you know, there's another layer of interpretation. But if you're up for it, I feel like it would help to kind of zoom out on the process that I use. Would that be okay. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So I believe that social conditioning covers up a lot of strengths and a lot of preferences. And in particular, whatever people soul genius is. And so people will come to me and they'll have an idea of a niche, or they'll just have some sort of training and they'll know that they want to be deeply of service. You know, it's in their heart. They absolutely want to positively profoundly be of service in the world. But what does that look like. And so the start of my process is helping people to understand that there's a new energy paradigm for people that are sensitive for people that feel resonant with it that sometime around 2011 things started to shift and people were propelled towards whatever path they're on today. And that there are energetic allies that they can tap into the unseen but in particular they can take a look at their life path and see how the background and their voice and who they are as a person informs who they can serve. And so the tradition that I was trained in there was a lot of emphasis on just reaching backwards. You know, like who's the version of you five years ago that needs help. What can you do to support them and just reach a hand back. But I find that people that come into my world needs that support to understand what their their genius is what what their magic is and it doesn't have to be in a way that's like super pressurizing like oh I got to find my magic. Where's my you know like look under the rock. Let me find my magic, but just like in a joyful way. What does it look like to recognize what I'm good at. And a part of that is brushing away that social conditioning that says oh it's no big deal like I mean everybody can do that. No they can't everybody has different skills and talents. And so then as they get to that point so they're understanding hey there's this new paradigm there's the unseen that they can work with. They have this soul genius they need to claim it and then they start to see how there's preferences that they have like maybe they really would rather only work two days a week or they are in a space where they do their best work at night and everyone has told them that they should work five days a week and that they should do their best work in the morning. And so there's this way that claiming your genius and claiming your strengths supercharges everything else that you that you do and it's like this cascade effect at least that's what I see in my clients in my audience. There's this way that there's this kind of like stampede of good things that happen when you start to claim who you are and the way that you work. And so then there's this kind of like squishy phase where I help people dial into the place where their particular genius wants to be expressed like how does it want to happen at the world. So some people want to write books and some people want to have YouTube channels and some folks really enjoy one on one coaching and they love networking like they love connecting with people and just having really joyful conversations. So finding that place where they feel really nudged and they feel really expressed and energized and then understanding the way that they work and how that transforms into a business model. I know this may sound bananas but I really do think that for every single person there is a business model that can fit them and it's just a matter of what does it look like on a really deep level to understand the way that they operate and what gives them joy. That's that's brilliant. Yeah, it's amazing. I love that you are kind of helping them work through these big questions in a kind of more of a lighthearted, gentle way. Instead of instead of the stressful like you must find the right answer now otherwise, you know, and so it's great that you are helping them to see both the sort of the things that the strengths that they just discount. Oh yeah, everyone can do that. But no, you recognize that in them, and then you help them to connect that to a business model that really works for them and kind of a productivity model I guess the time system maybe or that that works for them. I find it interesting you said about you know some a lot of people say oh you got to do your best work in the morning you know first thing in the morning you should do your and some people are night owls, you know, and it's funny because my wife is a night owl. Actually, you know she she's like her hours like you know 11am to 2am something like that, you know, and at first you know when when when we met like, that's not acceptable you should have the same out but then over time like actually, it's actually really nice because then I get the mornings to myself, you know, and then she gets evenings to herself and so it's like, you're like worked out worked out really well, but um, yeah, and of course now now now with the global, you know, sort of. I mean, so many people are working virtually now, you're, you know, the fact that if you're a night owl that means you could serve people at different time zones that people were, you know, early birds can. No, I was just going to say like I love the diversity and like the variety of expression that humans have like we're just we're all so different. I've, I've had so I went through coach training in 2013 so I've worked with a lot of different folks over that course of time and there have been some people where I've just thought like the things that they enjoy. You couldn't pay me enough money to do those things. And yet they seem to be telling the truth and I just I find it fascinating how we can all operate so differently, including, you know, there are some people that thrive on one to one conversations. I love supporting people in, you know, real time coaching conversations. And I also know some people that don't want anything to do with that like they don't even want to shake a stick towards it like when they work with people, it's completely asynchronous. And I just, yeah, I get super jazzed by all the different ways that people come to whatever their goal looks like. Yeah, and the diversity is wonderful because, you know, the clients and the students and the customers need diversity there's also diversity people like working as well with with providers. So stuff as we wrap up this conversation that just how how can people work with you so those who are watching or listening right now they're wanting to take the next step with you what's what should they do next. I have a free Facebook group for folks that are on the book of face, and it's called your sacred craft. And so there's a lot of really juicy conversations and a really gentle and supportive community and that's developing there. We're under 1000 people so it's still at the point where things feel like, you know, grounded and anchored and I do some interesting I just want to say today, today's number in your group is exactly 777. What I mean I swear, like I said, I maybe it's still following me because over the past week it's like I've seen the I've seen the repeated numbers over and over and here it is again so here we are 777 perfect. For me it feels like this really warm a hug when I see repeating numbers or feel those kinds of synchronicities that it just makes me feel like the team is there, and they're here to help and that's right to do it alone. That's brilliant. Well, but you're open to more people joining and breaking that that number will get to 999 has that 888. Yeah, yeah, my goal is to keep it like a really tight knit community something that feels good. But yeah, the Facebook group your sacred craft is the best place to join us and I also have a newsletter list over at mythical enterprises calm. But if you join the Facebook group I'll tell you all different sorts of juicy things and there's some really good trainings in there, including like how to discern your niche and how to connect to solve your business. So I'm happy to I'm happy to help support people. It lights me up. Yeah, awesome. Awesome. Well, I'll be sharing the link to that as well as your website. So, yeah, I guess besides that you work with people one to one on on service as a service provider, a coach to them. And you also have like the recorded guided visualization as well. Yeah, most of the guided visualizations are bound up in this nine and a half month incubator programs that I have. But you can get a particular start date or it's actually rolling admissions, which is super cool. Join. Yeah, yeah, and anytime and it's really neat to because I find that based on the work that I'm doing that people just show up and they don't know how they found me, or they don't know why they got there. No, and it just feels really, it feels like another affirmation that I'm where I'm supposed to be. Awesome. Well, I hope those who are watching, if you resonated with Steph's energy, reach out, join the Facebook group, your sacred craft magical tools for the action ready entrepreneur. I love that. And the website is mythical enterprises.com. So with that stuff. Thank you so much for the work that you do the way that you do it. And yeah, just looking forward to seeing your, your presence. Bless so many more people. Thanks so much for this connection George I appreciate it.