 sensei star I grew it for a little bit and to be perfectly honest I got rid of it and I didn't I just thought of it as kind of a boring afghan our friends is so mad at you right now I know I know that doesn't mean that I grew the one you know that's true later on later on one version at least became pretty famous and Luke is one of the people from Paradise Seeds he's refused to give any lineage or any information about it it wasn't offered for all that that long I don't think yeah it was not as regular seeds but as feminized seeds I don't think he's ever stopped offering it you don't think he's ever stopped offering it as femme yeah so I just meant I don't you know the regular seeds was what like it was like a four or five year period or something I don't even think it was a four or five year period I think he gave someone testers that was a friend that person reproduced them which caused him to say fuck that I'm only doing femme from now on