 Apple Google ever works Like you in the studio This ain't nothing Check it check it check it check it. It's a unique house. It's your boy E ceo and I'm in with the lovely official amazing miss Jamaica What's going on? Hey, man, we got a guy here today, man I've been trying to catch this dude man. Hey, man, it dude here, man. He always on the move. Yes, sir Say man a cash move everything around me, man You better know it Say man, the man this time is in the building. Yo, what's happening? Hey, man, it's so good to have you man So I appreciate Man, I've been a fan man a fan And I'm gonna be honest with you when I when I think about the run you when you first started I was on it man You know, I'm saying the harder way and all that I was on it fed up all I was on Listen man Music do You know how I am she gets sick of I'll be turning it up. Oh, how's gonna be Yeah, yeah, but now man, thank you. I always know for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you So man, just just tell us a little bit about just who you are and how you we in Atlanta y'all Yeah, real talk man. And uh, we here with the red sun. Yeah about to go down And don't forget to like and subscribe now. Oh, don't just watch like and subscribe That matters. I can tell you that so with you coming up man So just give us a little rundown on just who you are, right? We always go back as you can remember see y'all like what I like like Man for you like what what you say five If you can remember How are you as a kid growing up are you an only child or were you raised with your mom and dad? Well, I Started off with my dudes, of course I Got it. I started off with my dudes, of course. Um, I Stayed with one of my brothers, but I had another brother. Um, that you know, my dad had another older one you talked to you When I did some research you have a older one that you talked about. Hold me. Yeah. No Hey, you know, it's crazy. I don't know what the internet be in the information from bro It's up. We put anything but But nah, um, you gotta watch Google and all that boy I'm tell you that's why I don't go down that rabbit hole nigga. I'll be in there They make up anything. I get on that nigga Instagram niggas talking about it. It is And you over there and then they got a show over there Yeah, that's why I do it and I know exactly where I'm coming from should me to be so fake sometimes That nigga be traveling he got to go to them shows you gotta tell him. Hey, man, I'm coming down. Such a Steal so yeah, but but just when you when you first came up man as a kid man coming up So, how was it? We want to know about you the real discernment. I mean, um, I could say it's like it's I mean, I don't want to say similar, but you know, it's just it's life. Like I Until I was nine I grew up with my mom, you know, I'm saying after that I was with my dad So I grew up really learn how to be a man from a man life from a different point of view I ain't really had a female soft side to learn how to be a nurturing with a woman that much No, I'm saying I learned Through my own learners with different females So when your mom had you up to the nine years old you didn't learn that part during that time No, cuz my mom was rough too. Like, you know, I'm saying especially bruh raising a young black Raising the boy and me being her first boy. She was young, you know, I'm saying so I can remember times You know, I'm fighting at school or fighting in the neighborhood And and like the other kids brothers and them come down. We'll beat your sister too. Yeah, she was young You know, I'm saying so she's So she was rough too like one no running one no playing one no mama He hit me just go back out there beat his ass or you ain't coming in the house. I see, you know, I'm saying yeah So I never really had that that that soft side like when the nigga got to the point of learning like ooh I like that girl what I'm supposed to do like I didn't get that cuz I was with my dad Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's dope cuz I was with my dad Isn't your dad supposed to teach you how to be a ladies man, they bring the place to the house And drop them off I give me a little play to And I'd be sitting in the truck or something waiting on him then we go home. Yeah, that's the way it went But now so, you know, what when did when did you know you had something to music man? Me personally I never like like I didn't myself say like oh, I'm fine Everybody told me everybody around me, but I mean I knew I Had a gift with words like playing with word rhyme poetry or Talking and making it rhyme. You know what I'm saying like just pop and shit Like there's a young age listening to the rap music freestyle and over shit like I don't know when Just day one Do you love to freestyle? I used to not now like I ain't gonna lie like I listen to it So I salute them like Man, but I don't think that's my I can't know that's a lot man You know, like you you know, I know you a challenger nigga on here. Hey, we're gonna freestyle Oh, hey, she done put a lot of niggas on the spot. Oh, yeah. No No, like change for that, but I'm like just like some of them gonna flop You know, we've had some hell of a floppers up there No, like some of it I couldn't put out Believe it in my first run right when I first one hardaway first guy going Yeah, I definitely went to all the little freestyling spots and all that and they try this shit too. I'm like man Hell no, I don't do that. No, then, you know, some I'm like, all right. I'm gonna try And the reason why is because I don't I'm gonna tell you why it's rough for me I don't write music, right? Yeah, but I don't know how to um Like like if I'm freestyling I got I'm punching me and I'm feeling the vibe. Yeah, I'm changing pictures I'm getting deeper and deeper. I'm storytelling a little bit So with the freestyle, I know there's a lot of them be writing that shit. I can't remember that shit. I ain't gonna lie That's I can't I can't remember emotion. You feel what I'm saying? I don't think you can copy that like so That freestyle and shit ain't for me. But most definitely So, you know, we had we had a hell of a moment this week. We went viral. We was on a world star We was on there. Let me get the cap a little bit. We was on Vlad. We was on every every platform Uh-huh and I thought about you you think what the hell this nigga talking about I thought about I thought about because I had a moment where They got out of hand and I thought about Birdman over there at that dang girl. Oh, yeah And you was in there that day. Yeah, yeah, and I said man I think I had my bird man moment in here where What's going on for so you know, so tell me how it was that day because I know I seen y'all so I'm gonna ask him Didn't I tell you I'm gonna ask him about that. It was a surprise to me I was surprised even if even if even if it was a discussion before that happened I didn't it wasn't enough of a discussion for me to understand what was finna happen like yeah It was just awesome. We're gonna go on him. You know, we're gonna talk or whatever I don't know what was actually said. I can't remember That was regular shit. Well, I mean, yeah, it was regular shit like that. I think of moving but yeah When that shit happened, it was like a whole shit. How about the energy in the room? That's what I'm saying Soon we walked in it was a let me tell you motherfuckers. Oh shit. It's all like I'm trying to see who was gone who what man Me like let me see what really What I was in that way when they was talking down on us. I was like damn man I hope he didn't get there. Ain't nobody getting nothing in here Do you feel my back is to the wall I can see the whole My cameraman walk the way Behind the scenes on it like like a couple of days ago yesterday. Oh, yeah, and uh, you can see he stopped recording right after his story So, yeah, so so When you first I'm a Birdman fan nigga like top of the line Birdman fan I've seen him in a couple of places where he was out in the crowd nigga He don't mind getting out with his people. How how did you and him? Meetin, you know, how did you y'all link up? Well from um, uh learning on the track and old management, um June Jones, they put me in the date like learning was working on, um The wrist game with uh Lord thug and corn So they like why they was working on that they just brought me in like a like a aloo like just come on Brothers come down like and at first. I was like man. I Don't know bro. Like I ain't really you know, I'm saying like for me. This is it's crazy I can't believe like break out working with Birdman So I ain't gonna lie nigga never lie man. I am Can't let them see sweat. Yeah, I want to eat that. It was like So when they were like, nah, bro, come on, I'm like, fuck it. Yeah So, you know the first time I was around we was at a studio in London And I was just kind of saying bad listening everybody watching, you know, like down this shit legend there and then I went to Miami And they were like, I'm here So I woke up and I got involved. I start rapping. I'm in the studio Everyday doing 15 hours a day like that's no no games like literally every wake up at one o'clock Leading next day at one o'clock like Yeah, yeah, so that and it's true And what I hear about them how they work a lot. Oh, yeah, they working. I know boys and it's working straight work It ain't a vacation at all. No hell no, that's what I always would wonder how can a man Okay, when you're on your grind and doing all that working all those hours, especially if you have a family kids at home And whatever, how do you balance all of that? I ain't gonna lie. It almost broke me once, you know I'm saying like probably my third money Not being home. It probably like I got a I got a call from my son He was like dad am I ever gonna see you again like you been gone too long and it fucked me up I dropped it till I ain't gonna lie. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like damn man. I'm not doing the right shit Like you know, I'm saying like, you know, how sometimes you feel like you abandon the one thing I chase one thing and I'm a man first like I ain't gonna never abandon my children. Oh, what's your son at that time? Oh shit, I Don't even know like I wait 11 now. I Go back what five years probably folk Yeah, but he's missing in pops man, you know them and you if you had already been there and established that You had to leave like that. Yeah So I was always life I won't I won't able to And yeah, it fucked me up Damn man, and then you know, this the distance I got the iPhone shit. I'm using um What the little house is? Google do or something I'm trying to be strong. So I'm like boy Oh But you know and all things work together for the good of them that love God and caught caught on this purpose I mean you doing what you you walking in purpose me That's the whole game a lot of people don't realize that man You gotta you got to do what you know God got a plan wrote out for everybody. You got a walk in your purpose Yeah, you got you know, I'm gonna get lost. That's right. That's not that's some real talk So when you was dealing with with and I'm gonna get off of this in a second Did you have a run in the slim when you was dealing with the what? Oh, yeah, he was he was pretty much Yeah, man good niggas got him like When I seen both of them in the other girl like I see bird and I see sling Everybody See with them playing music fuck what my shit like Bro, I'm gonna tell you something. I'll be real with you man when I think about bird man and slim They're man. They like my the JZ of the south for the For me, you know what I'm saying like they they paved the way them and J Prince for the South man And just when it first start to develop I'm talking about masterpiece all of these different guys man When you look at them they patriarchs. I'm a older cat So I looked at how the whole thing started out and them guys being down here in the south man We didn't have nothing at first. It was on the east coast near to the west coast Yeah, we finally got a job at it and when we got it. I think we did Atlanta did is justice man Yeah, I ain't gonna lie you niggas is off the chain, you know No You know saying now I'm talking just what we had I get you know, you know, I'm saying Like from the whole dancing from the front of front of slashing like I salute every slew to everybody from I look at the weight of the music move man Then like I said when I seen you I was like man, did the DJ in it did he have by how out of way or what? It wasn't you came off with it first. Yeah, I dropped it. Yeah, you dropped it Like really I didn't even drop it me and my crew like we had a cop and we was in the strip club somewhere and my brother like Sneak off and play this shit. He sent it to a DJ. I Don't remember who got it first. I want to say it was DJ bit tiny man Yeah, who we slipped the two first and then DJ Y'all that man what the name of that club wall right there Vila That shit right there by on by talk go that Vila Vila with it down here Yeah, they had the three three stories in there. I went in that thing. Yeah So that's probably the first one of the first place we draw that shit or mad to see it for show Like all the major shit we would just like once my brother slipped that shit one time We were like fuck it. Let's just go out and do it like his own Next thing, you know, it started getting big in the clubs in the streets niggas round-round playing DJ every came down my my DJ DJ and dirt was playing in 1145 and The whole club like he stopped the music in a whole club singing shit Yeah, like credit like whoa, like if I ever drop the tail about some shit that was amazing It was that moment like Mr. Boys it up. They sang in my shit. They scream in my favor. That's favor You feel me. That's favor and the credit thing We go home like we I was still we won't even you know, I'm saying we were just doing we had to do the Move around and make shit look good. So you hadn't did the video yet. I know I Did just you drop in the middle was out Wow, and um DJ every called my brother phone How did he get his number? I don't know. I'm saying I'm in the room sweet. He coming out like hey, bro Some nigga name DJ in the car me Yeah, you know, this nigga is All right, bro, stop fucking play Fucking DJ He like brum daddy. I said man, whatever I roll over and go back to sleep. He called back He said bruh, it's a DJ nigga. DJ Envy. So he didn't call my other manager in shit I don't think he believed it either. So I finally got a call him back then He called him. He was like, yo, what's up the reds is DJ. Yeah, I'm like, you knew the voice You know, I'm still thinking the nigga might be playing cuz you know Yeah, yeah, I'm like, what up He like yellow man, I like the record all along like mm-hmm Oh, I'm gonna appreciate it. How you get my brother, no No, I'm trying to open them up to see if it's real life and it was real life. Yeah. Oh shit Hey, I call my manager. Hey, bro. Nah, that's him for real, bro. We got what else that let go do this shit He wanted to do what did he want to do? So what we did? I don't know initially what he wanted to do. Maybe he did want to buy this one But that's something I don't know. I didn't have that discussion. But what happened was we did like a Partnership on the record fifty-fifty partnership and we redropped it. Wow. You see what I'm saying we redropped that shit And it went crazy. We're in crazy, man I remember seeing Bird man in that dang corn you When he that that Instagram video right there, that's what let that I think that's when I knew like this shit might be This might be one Man only only you ain't know a whole bunch of people experienced this is what you say, and you know what I'm saying is it's dope though that you Will you ever have will you be able to make a song bigger than that? Well, of course Have you made a song bigger than that? I don't think I'm mad today due to the normals Yeah, I will I'll make plenty more bigger than that You put yourself under to make something bigger than that I don't put myself on a no-press because um, I honestly feel like God gave me the time to do it the first time and I did that song on the spot like it won I ain't sit down think about it. Nothing. It was like hmm. I went in did it and the truth about Hardaway right I had did a song already like well Lisa hook I did a hook like years ago and when you put me on the spot London playing the beat in this a lot of us in the studio So my manager like get in there what you scared about you know, you can go out to talk Get in there by your jukebox. Just make something. Oh, I go on now I'm thinking if I hit on they present the top but we're taking so long, but I say so So I call my engineer done salute No, I'm saying hey, bro, you remember that song I did when I was talking about a magic hard way Penal hard way. He was like, yeah, I said play that shit right quick So now I step behind the thing in the studio behind it so it don't pick up on the mic I'm listening hard way Oh, man, I bet boom I hang up and I go on the hard way Hard way, you know, I'm saying trying to make it go to the beat. I ain't I'm looking in the room. I'm saying niggas like this was over that door. All right. I mean that nigga for now like And to be honest, it was a lot of niggas on hard way at first. Really? Yeah Like, you know, you do a song in the studio. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of people and then niggas just boom boom boom boom boom Put a version on there. It was a lot of niggas on there. I had to wake up like one of my buddy like, bro Can't do that. No, you treat him, bro. This you need to do this You need to go do a second verse bro. You treat me and I wouldn't be at a second verse and I was with I was it I forgot the studio. I was it but young school was in he was like, this the one goddamn All aboard gets the wine. So when all these niggas saying that I'm like fuck it. I'm gonna go on finish it You feel I'm saying but um, yeah, that shit was lit though. I ain't never thought this deep about all the way And then we went in on that one of my favorite song. That's all that's happening right here Turn that song on right now in the club. The club is gonna jump. Yeah still to this day. Yeah, that shit is crazy What was your relationship with slim dunking and wanker flock? They was like, you know clothes friend like family like brothers for real like Don't believe in me so strong You know, it was just crazy like the relationship. It was I never I never like Had no type of relationship with a person like that. That was like that's probably the big brother They were saying I've been talking about like he was like a big brother to me Like I was like the alley hoops. He threw it was crazy. Like, you know, I'm saying so genuine and it was just like damn You know when he passed like kind of fucking it up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's tough, man, you know Man P8 one day you're here and then you're going that I really believe that UGK something so real to me Treat every day like it's your last cuz you really don't know so even when you were talking about your son earlier I remember when I lost my father and I Realize at that point. I realized that we would always hustle try to make money for the kids try to Create a lane where they can grow up and learn how to become entrepreneurs, you know stuff like that and That's what this world does it makes you want to work work work to leave them something But that's not the most important thing when my father died. I realized that I had all these memories That he left me. Yes, there was money or whatever, but it was mainly I remember going hunting with him I remember going fishing with him cuz I was a I was a time I'm the only girl but I was a time, you know, what man it sound good when you yeah on the mic You know, it's my Boy you stand behind you almost thank you a rappel Where do the bank I'll go ahead I will let you go. No, but that's what I learned over that time that period of time in my life is that Treasure the things that you have right now money is not everything. It's the family you have it's the kids You leaving them memories you leaving them lessons cuz when When you're gone, and we don't know what day that gonna be when we leave this So we need to always leave something that people can remember us by Trying to build it up. I ain't gonna lie to you. Yeah, I'm trying to be like to get to I'm trying to be like the reds right for You got you know how they go to college and they be like, oh, that's the hindersons family Yeah, I want to be like that. We need to my kid. They kid. They kid kid kid I'm trying to buy the big-ass calcium motherfucker to what we going there. You see me The new granddad like I want that shit to go on July them like I want the same shit They had the shit they the proud of I want for mine too man What do you why do you find that place man? Cuz when you the pain in your songs, you know, how do you go to that place? Like the way you grab, you know dig deep and go to those places. I just See what I'm saying Bro, I don't been through so much shit, right? And it's crazy. I even asked myself like I'm a man of means About pain. Yeah, they are different. I just Whatever the beat take me I become a part of the beat like It depends like, you know, it could be some I'm going through the day tomorrow some I just thought about from last year It could be something like I was talking right here about what we talking about I can go tomorrow and be like make a song about gotta leave a legacy or some shit got a lead song for my kid Like, I don't know it just come from the inside, bro. It's genuine. It's organic come from my soul It don't come from no made up bullshit. I ain't trying to look at another nigga lifestyle and imitate that shit I'm going off me. Yeah, and that's why people feel it so much because when I listen to the words I can feel it Yeah, you got you got the rod wave the merays you Mode three you linked with mode three Yeah, I seen I seen that too with t-rea. All I need to get Is rod wave he got to come on in that boy, man Yeah, that'd be five the mother So Yeah, so the thing that I look at man is is with the mode three thing. How did you end up making that happen? um, we had link Um, me and him we know our own time like Like I was I was just asked this question before I really can't remember how like, you know what I'm saying But we traded numbers or whatever You know talking organically genuine. He sent some And I sent it back and it was a look like we've been did the song, you know, I'm saying so And one like, you know, this this situation happening then a nigga reached out. We've been locked in Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it happened before his demise untimely demise. Yeah Yeah, man. And so The cloud that and I asked this question. I've been asking it with young doff pass and like you getting killed like he did Uh, just a few days ago This this cloud of darkness that covers the wrappers man when they come down to you know It's like you see the pop smokes to mode threes all these different. I can keep naming them You know, what's the little boy dirt? They won't go with asian dog went with asian though Was it boy? Vaughn king vaughn all these kids man for me. I'm older cat, you know, how does When you see these things happening and being that you in this world, you understand what I'm saying Does it make you choose the way you move wise that doesn't make your song choice? What you say wisely, you know Wiser How do you how do you deal with it? I mean for me? I can't speak for nobody else but myself, right? Um, it it kind of like it gets scared sometimes I ain't gonna lie to you like There's so many rap niggas passing away at a fast rate like Damn is niggas targeting rap niggas like I mean, of course, you know, you always had Shit going on with rap niggas, but this shit all these deals behind these shit It's like you got to be careful. You got to move more militant. So And this for me like, you know, I'm saying I always felt like I was one of the niggas Like if I can't kick it in the hood or kick it one from or go to another niggas hood and show love Then I ain't who I am Yeah But now that shit changing my thoughts like because the game ain't the same like It's a lot of snakes and this shit like it's a lot of niggas who do not like you appear like Just because you got a light that shining and causing them to be shaded on like So we're smiling your face. Yeah, I'll get close as fuck to you Real close. I'm knowing this. They'll be real close to you. You know what I'm saying? And then hate on you And say for example, you know, I don't see any shit Well, you know, and I'm not not speaking on with rap shit, but just in life general going through certain shit I don't see niggas be close to a nigga. They don't do nothing to a nigga But they'll let a nigga do something to a nigga and you just as fucking dirty They got it done to him, you know Um I just said this earlier that the kid that was on our show woody two lives Shout out to what he came on my show the dude that was with him Killed him Yeah, but after they you know left and went out the same dude He was trying to give me the interview end up killing him. We end up going to the field Yeah, uh, just because they had a fault a disagreement And and it's crazy because but you get I don't mean to cut you off But you you you you can kind of blame the internet for that, right? Yeah, because you got a lot of like For example, I just called my son the other day, right? Yeah And I was playing but I was dead ass here because I know the influence on this internet shit So I see, you know, I'm saying no disrespect and no nigga or whatever a nigga do that's their own thing I don't I don't care you feel me, but how I raise mine is how I raise mine So I've been seeing niggas with fingernails polishing. She don't yeah, which I don't give a fuck what a nigga do Please believe me, you know what I'm saying salute them niggas, but I told my son a bro I've been saying this shit on the internet so much If I ever catch you with that shit, I'm gonna beat your motherfucking ass boy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying Yeah, he don't like what why would I do that? I'm sorry. I'm just letting you know, son Shit on the internet so much nigga you for to make me call my son fact Before you think this is Same for that And then but but back to the Why this internet so much of his influence You know, you got all these these niggas that are youtube and tit talkers and And I ain't outside like niggas do not be outside and I'm not saying they may do or they used to or Whatever, but you're not right now because if you you making all these money, nobody gonna let you play with yourself like that First of all, but the kids don't know the difference. That's right. You understand So now when you see these niggas, oh boy, we slam on everything we shoot shit off nigga when we see you They think and that's the way yeah But once again, that's when they got suckers running the game now So the niggas that's the niggas that's putting that shit in front of your kids. I ain't doing that shit You know, I'm saying and I teach my life, bro You ain't anything doing that Trust me and if you you got your one or two niggas that do slide in there really be just On that, you know, but that ain't all of them But it's definitely all of them and it shouldn't even be the one that is on them because you should be making the change Bro, you trying to get away from that shit I think they just think they got something to prove or a lot of times the young niggas ain't never even even been in situations I I and I'll say this man because because I remember my first time going viral I said I was talking about the dolphin Yo, got his situation when they had first when he got shot in the hand and then but And I was like damn man, you know, like y'all niggas ain't never went through this stuff Like somebody could get killed I said this I I took it down off the internet because it went viral I was I was the big homie for a minute nigga. I don't know what the What the I hit the wrong button And they were like I'm like damn you remember that I'm like damn. I got worried. I'm like damn You got them to be mad as hell at me But it was just I said because I felt like nobody else wasn't saying it I felt like okay, man, y'all see these cats into it man. Somebody need to say something I can't say nothing. I ain't they big homie. But let me go to this internet And then some shit like that's what I'm saying It'd be some shit that you just can't speak some shit like just ain't gonna never change Yeah, but and I'm not even saying that I'm just talking but The god of thinking that that meant I didn't have nothing to do with anything But during that time never with the riffraff online, you know what I'm saying? So I just hate to see our people keep dying man and mamas keep crying brother You know, I have that shit too And you're making you're making mother's cries what you're doing You gotta realize that but you gotta you got it like I say right like I keep saying not speaking on none of that Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. I don't know but I'm talking about from my point of view and the shit I've been through and shit. I seen niggas ain't giving the fuck about they own them Dang niggas going to jail keep making a moment cry trying to please niggas. Wow, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm trying to be tough like niggas ain't even being daddies and shit They own kids because they in the street chasing behind a nigga trying to prove point to the street like Me I'm beyond I'm past that nigga. I made it to be where I'm at today. I ain't finna take that shit for granted I'm not even finna play I let a nigga I let a nigga have some shit before I even stress the issue on how I get out because how I get out I know what it is. I know the outcome and so and I got to be here for mine You know what I'm saying? I can't let no fake-ass nigga on the internet right my kids You know what I'm saying? I got to be here. So I'm on some grown shit like I ain't man, whatever y'all got a nigga get you some money Some of these kids look up to these dudes on the street more than they look up to their parents Exactly. You want me to tell you some crazy shit? In what ball of meat well used to ball of me not no more because I kind of understand My kids look to me like the red the sun instead of daddy I've been through that shit like wow facts to the point why I had to let them know like motherfucker I'm your dad boy. Yeah, nobody a little girl. I'm your daddy. So I'm playing with me. Yeah Yeah, fast. They I'm dead They happy that I'm the red the sun. I was you know, not daddy. Yeah, they going to school. Yeah, my daddy is the red the sun Yeah, all the red sun this old taking my hood is when school my son acting not in class I'm not my daddy the red son. I ain't got to do shit Wow Daddy before all that You gotta you gotta love it man. The fact the parent that is real ain't it? Yeah You can't you can't even you you don't know what book to go by you just got to do it, right? You got to jump out there and try it. I'm I'm daddy I'm out there on your ass I'll tell my and I'm a dad. I pull up the schools like you too being being me like change on whatever however I'm rocking I'll never forget right one day. I had to come check my son in school fresh off the road I'm come we coming his mom calling a whole man. These are guys suspended man. Can you go get them from the school? I'm like, what? But I'm on away from I'm I'm almost in alone. I bet I'm gonna go I go I go get them The kid jump all the way all that shit. I mean on daddy time though. I'm like, yeah, you're not even trying to hear I'm looking like what is that man? Yeah, I go in there. I catch him in the air He done hit a nigga with a like I guess I gotta find you don't hit a nigga with a Trails on I'm like, hey, the fuck I went crazy Man, I think our kids need it gotta have that bro Especially young man, they need that father figure Not a friend a father. So exactly not a friend a father. Do you feel like it's good to stay in your hometown where you from This is a question that people ask and you know, I ain't gonna hear no Need to leave you need to leave and some I didn't get and I should have been there But once again, like I said, I'm still I ain't said yet, but I was gonna say I'm still learning myself Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Um, like I said before I always feel like if I was a nigga that can't be where I'm from or be in the hood or be wherever Then I ain't who I ain't who I say I am but now I'm over that like I should have been gone You know what I'm saying? Because it the most hate always come from you You know what I'm saying? Wherever you from is gonna always be the most hate where you from because these niggas feel like they know you Yeah, for sure family members. I got family members. I don't talk to no more. Yeah, I know that I'll slap the shit out of when I see You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, but but I'm saying um Yeah, I should have been gone like being here, you know I'm saying it's it's niggas that's gonna look at you and feel like why not me why him Yeah, yeah, we front of science here. We front of science who went to the science school do the science Yeah, but you know niggas You know, I always thought about that because you niggas riding around and looking good your teeth shining You see the the officer that's went to school and didn't make it. He don't like you because he's making him look bad He ain't making a lot nigga All the niggas you went to school with that crack nigga, they didn't pick you to be no damn number one They didn't pick that I was that nigga too. I know they like that niggas not gonna make it. You know, that's what they thought But then bam god changed things and they can't do nothing about it. Can't do nothing about it. But hate Yeah, all the trial and set even even when you reach out to help niggas. They still be like No, nigga, I ain't you. Yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying Fuck the platform you put me on. I want your car. I want to show hope I want to show why I want to show chain. Yeah, that's going on I know what's going on because that's what a nigga do They're gonna always try to take your spot or try or jealous. Can't kill table man for nothing. He didn't do nothing Jealousy is a dangerous thing. You see how we on the side? Jealousy is it's crazy. Do you know what everything boils down to to me is mental health is how you perceive something how you think because If we both were raised in the same neighborhood and we afforded the same, you know things in life And you got somewhere and I didn't it's two reasons Your grind is harder than mine. I need to step up my game or God's purpose is that's where you need to be and I need to be somewhere else fast That's all that boy. I agree with you. But it's how you perceive it people don't always perceive it Of where it's supposed to be but then sometimes they don't want to I think they don't want to Because you could tell me I mean like in this real The nigga that run the building is important as the nigga that keep up the building if you ask me Because if I'm running the business right in my shit looking crazy looking dirty looking ragged or like then now I'm looking bad now my business going so well But niggas don't want to clean the building niggas don't want niggas want to run the building Niggas want to say this my shit But niggas don't want to put the work in to run my shit You know what I'm saying and I'm speaking in general, bro. Like I see that shit every day Oh, just because you made it. I think I'm supposed to make it too. You supposed to put me on You know what that remind me of This you're very good at knowing where the scripture is but Talking about the members of your body and how no member is greater than the other This is the truth Right for the good and even talking about tongue the other day how the tongue Small as is it is Very very very So, you know when you think about all of that it it boils down to what you just said and I love that So explain to me uh relationship because I asked uh, I asked y'all the same thing I got asked you the same thing asked him. How how how did you and how's you and p? My god, shout if you have shout I'm gonna know how how this thing, you know, how do you how this bun how this bun came together This one came before anything like that's family for show like Like this family for show man, you know, I'm saying like we locked in man, you know, we we we've been in situation together Well, we both had to depend on each other for as faith-wise to keep each other float to keep each other strong Not only we're just doing this music shit, but in real life situations like we coming from uh brands where it's like We was day to day living we day to day Kicking and we seeing each other problems. We you know, we we uplifting each other like, you know, and it's deeper But you give them I'm saying like this real again and shit. It's not no Oh He route I'll wrap shit this shit year we years in you know, I'm saying Brothers first before anything if I start rapping a day, I know you're still loving the same for a show Yeah, that's what's really version and I and I felt that when he came down I asked him because that was the thing remember we asked him was like, man. Are you in the red the shot? I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna tell you what else what else it is when it stopped, right? So, you know, um, you know, I I used to I used to get wild You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, and I used to like I used to call you boy, man Hey, you man And he'll be a bro, and what the hell you doing up there? Matter of fact, I'm pulling up Yeah, right Little niggas like that. Hey, man. I'm finna go shout some of my poop. No I ain't trying to hit his shit right now, man. I was trying to enjoy myself Well, who the fuck That's crazy, man. So your top three artists of all time did a lot Hmm, that's hard man. I ain't gonna lie. That's hard. Come on now. You you gotta give it up. Give it up, man Hey, y'all there the hell so you got everybody that been on this number one See All genres if it's Johnny Cash, nigga go on and see it if it's A million a million things a million things went through my mind like I can't just narrow it down to three I know it, but that's why we that's the that's the reason we asked the question Right, let's go ahead and knock some people off. All right. So I'll do one Tis up When you say different jump so what I'm gonna do I'm gonna go different time zones with you. Exactly. All right. All right pop Okay, number one Andre three thousand number two That's dope. That's dope. So you Like I just limited my sense of ways to cut but for real, all right, you're my three. He's sorry Drake, he's sorry But that's just I just hit but but my musical influences if I have any Would be a right a wide variety like I can go back to saying like um Devon the dude Man and boy was dope in a day. You know what I'm saying? I didn't even ride them but he I love this little catering style It was real simple, but he deadly, you know, my favorite song from it was Which one? Anything plenty man Hey, it's better than now Nothing at all Hey, man, I think it was bad. Hey, that nigga had a lot of hits dude and he had and you know what he had favor Like during that time My daddy was on that like like on that other shit I don't know how I stumbled across the default, but you know, the devon the dudes Trader truce motherfucking zero I mean, son thugger god damn autumn The west coast ice cube Yeah, I'm just with his people Matt uh matt ten. Yeah, Dorsey. Yeah god damn Snoop, you know, like I can keep going naked out like I can go all the way But I probably fuck with everybody who ever did anything Music and that that brings up a question because the the vibe y'all give it's almost like a Rap R&B is tight like feel with the ones who can do who sing, you know, moray and you and you know, and uh Like say ride wave man. It's fly the way you flowing, bro. Appreciate, you know It's fly, bro. It's fly man. It's and it's and it's the new thing. That's what that's real It's the new thing. It's it's really going down. It is because when you look at them up It it says that your singers not even rappers are With the soul of moray man, he's so genuine again, too Like I ain't gonna lie anybody I ever dealt with all the days anybody I ever deal with music is always organic Um, he had hit me. I think dm I dm him some kind of way whatever happened with dm shit We exchanged numbers And before we even did any music we was texting like, you know on some regular shit like what's up, bro? There you got going nine chillin. So I bet that 100 you're checking on your b-side trust name You know what I'm saying? He'll tell bro what you got going bro. I hit back by cooking. Look This before the tip top shit before I was cooking on the tip top like look we're cooking and shit, man He like damn, you know, look like thanks. Give him around and motherfucker shit like that. Like just regular home Yeah, and um I don't know bro I said he some one of us in some to each other And the other sent the other back and we've been locked in since like I just hit him the other day I gotta show him. Um sorry to come in on my burp. Who's your Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's good to build old relationship because some people you click with some people you don't And that's you know that right like you just cause a nigga He ain't in the lane that you in don't mean y'all go even click. No, that's real I done met some people that I thought I was gonna like that. I didn't like Do you think I have a cousin for you? Do you think you like him because of the people that you did click with or the people that did put that type of vibe on you? I just thought these were people that I had seen And I thought it'd be like me seeing you today and like damn I mean what I it was even what I thought it was gonna be. Okay. You see where I'm coming from That's why I was coming from with it. I done met some of the dudes I looked up to and was looking or looked to and thought Was stand up and when I met him It was not that way, bro. Oh, yeah, I don't see Because everything you do we like organic so when you meet somebody you want it to just mesh and everything just flow But sometimes when you meet somebody is like they just standoffish or They don't speak or I hate it. It's weird like too much. I'm not like like like like I think you got a attitude Really that don't really that don't move nothing because it make you feel like You ain't bad in my mind now. I think I'm bad. No, I don't even think I'm bad. I was like, man, this nigga Maybe I'm reading too far into it Oh my god Dirty like but see and a lot of times, you know, you got to understand that spiritual I'm gonna be real with you. I agree. It's spirit certain spirits don't don't connect No, no, you can tell this in the air a nigga I don't need to be with that nigga right there. That nigga you we had a guy to come in the other day On the on the interview and as soon as that nigga came in I attacked that nigga I can tell we wasn't Right. Yeah, he wasn't it wasn't even that he wasn't even there for an interview. He's just a nigga with a nigga Always and I was like, what's this nigga doing there? And he was like, uh, he came in and I was like, damn, man, uh You ain't gonna speak. I asked the nigga, you know, I'm crazy and say you in my spot, nigga You don't speak. He was like, um Yeah, uh, yeah, I was gonna say, you know, he's still acting crazy So then he started trying to break down the music to me and that's why I lost it You know, I started just hitting that nigga with blows blows blows because a lot of times Niggas don't be intelligent enough to keep up with the conversation. Yeah, so then he got mad left Because you have to hit niggas with the truth. Sometimes niggas not ready for this man. What you doing? Everybody ain't be everybody not gonna be it's a lot of rappers not gonna It take a special it take a special like you like in order to like you can be a rapper Anybody can be a rapper, but to be a already It's like a significant certain type of person To be able to deal with this shit and learn how to balance this shit. Like I said, I'm still learning. Yeah, I heard that That's humbleness too. Yeah, I'm still learning. So I still formal hearing them, but it take a certain type of individual to be able to Walk out of the house where as an issue And go straight to the studio and make a hit record. I'll make a good song. Fuck a hit a good song You feel what I'm saying? It's like a different type of person who not a people person to go out here and doubt people who people take a million pictures You know, I'm saying all that airing and shit real people wrong way. Like so me. I'm speaking on me anyway I'm a different nigga. Like a lot. I don't I'm I'm I'm really like a self-proc like I'm I'm what's the word? Self-syncing like I think uh, uh, like I just don't like people. I know But I love my fans. I love people who support my shit I love the rap niggas that fuck with me for real and I'm pushing up pulling up by myself. How are we kicking we hanging? I mean other niggas events like how they at mine. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, um It take a different mental type of shit to deal with it. I could be in the house got them Which I have I don't lost people people don't got licenses All kind of bad news hit a nigga my daughter doing some bullshit. She ain't got no big And still go to the store. Hey Like it's like a strong mind for everybody ain't ready for it. I ain't ready. I'm telling you to raise everybody not ready for So I want to go ahead. No, no, no, I just saying everybody ain't ready for the evening to think they ready But what you just explained was trying to balance all that these niggas ain't ready for that That take a special kind of person to be able to deal with all these different And then you got you didn't even mention the people that's coming at you every day From different places that you didn't even know was coming Facts and now you got to balance that within this so And and you meet people like it's a special gift too. So you say you learning that's just humbleness, man You've been doing your thing, man, and you've been around the right people too. So for you to be still in the game Come on, man. I've been trying to keep shot and calling me going crazy I Know you mentioned the cooking earlier and I heard you say on other platforms that you can cook anything Yeah, so you can cook Jamaican food See I'm gonna have to look at a couple of youtube Because I ain't I can make jerky. Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? I can I can do that But the other shit. I don't know yet. Like do you make it from scratch like the seasoning from scratch me to the jerk chicken Come on What's from scratch you let me know and I can see No, okay. You didn't get out of the bottle You actually went and bought the seasonings cut it up. Okay. See something. Yeah, I got some shit out of the bottle Okay, I'm just checking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I did How can how can people get a hold to you if they looking for you? Man at the red sun on everything Facebook, twitter, instagram Tiktok the real the real the red sun. Yeah um My name in my bio on my instagram. Oh, damn. Yeah, I got a phone one. Sometimes I might pick it up You ain't that more He was the first to give him the number. I like that one. Yeah Yeah, but look, I just told the world for the first time I might pick that more It's the billion line. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So ain't no telling who might pick it up You know what I'm saying? But I might Who would you like to work with like in the in the future? like I always say chris brown right and I really do. Yeah, I love that nigga music and his personality I had a nigga say chris brown better than michael jackson, man I don't you know One of my one of my like me I can't compare I can't compare like Yeah Ask the nigga wish Michael Jackson, but look As he's great. He had a boy great. He was greater than a mother for me. Yeah. Yeah, I agree All right, you know what I'm saying amazing artists, bro I agree with you because Everybody that came on the show say the same thing about him chris brown gotta be doing something right Everybody come on mention that dude. Yeah, but I'm gonna say that again because I'm hoping like niggas. You see this But that'd be a dope collab too, but I really I really I really just want to work with anybody genuine like me, man Good humble people for sure. I gotta work right away though. You know what I'm saying for the culture You know, that's how I did with mode 3. That's right around the corner. You're gonna get him You know, I'm saying I'm doing the whole ep with uh t-real You know what I'm saying? I gotta get in there with the boy Broadway is like a fat nigga situation going on. You get what I'm saying? Hey, I'm not gonna feel good I could have went there man when I was in the streets and fat niggas came through niggas I don't know what it was them. Houston niggas them big niggas big hawk big pokey All them niggas see they had they thing when it was a lot of See people don't think it happened to them early on when big haugenium and all them guys was dying fat pat All these guys in texas was down the same way in houston The rap thing I go back to that because I remember that part too, you know, and the dj screw the Big mode you start you just you see all these different trends man And I know life goes on and everybody gotta cross that path man, but man I just I just I hope and pray god to just you know, keep our people here a little longer man You know what I'm saying because at the end of the day, man We got some talented people that the left her real early. Yeah, I like dawg man. They ain't gonna lie like I like the music Um, I used to like his music, you know what I'm saying and and it tripped me out how people And I go back to that because his of course his numbers is going up and I hate that I hate the next day after somebody passed man. That was was great And you you didn't tell them they was great, but you crying the day They know I was going up. They don't get to see it. I hate this man. Yeah, I hate that shit too And you know what um, I'm I'm gonna speak on that situation like Not that exact one. I'm just saying similar situation, right? It don't mean people, you know what I'm saying that I had real love for right But um, I ain't really Felt with like that. Um As much as I should not on the bullshit just as much as I should like I've been doing so much doing this and that I kind of forgot about a lot of the people I love and I lost a couple of them people And and and on the inside it tear me up because I can never say, you know what I'm saying Damn my bad for that last little convo You know, uh, damn my bad for not understanding what you mean about it. Like, nah, it's over with I can't even I It's at the point where I can't even pose niggas no more like So it aspect like so like I'm losing people Rats and real life so much going on so much. I ain't even spoke on. It's like I'm just like I can't do it bro. And and and I be fake as hell To make a post after the fact when I ain't talked to anything about two months. You know what I'm saying No, I get it man. I I really I I I know already I can't stand the after effects. It's killing me and I've seen it enough to study it And that's the bad part because I think people are on this sick hyenas on the next day I think people are getting used to this bro. I know you might think I'm tripping No, people you know what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? They used to and they waiting on the next one And I think that's horrible Do you follow? Yeah, I do. I think it's horrible, bro Because at the end of the day you get used to that that's not the norm, man Exactly, none of this shit is here You got all these young niggas you got the push ice These niggas getting locked up these niggas shooting This world is in a total chaos and then you put you wrapped that up in some cove it man And you got some messed up situations that have happened in the last two years, bro Yeah, I'm fast You know what I'm saying? It's crazy like when cove it hit I can ask you about that Did you shut down? I know Atlanta didn't shut down, but three days they claim it was a week No, hell no Atlanta shut down Yeah, it shut down. I mean it was like I can't tell you exactly how long but no I can tell you shut down long enough for me to be like man, what the fuck man It messed you up Yeah, like damn, bro. I can't even go to the store to store clothes and see what the fuck I'm the only one going to the store in my house. I'm gonna let my kids go nobody I didn't know what this was. Yeah, but I was like, it messed me up. I'm like damn I got to go to the store and I wasn't at them. I take a bath shower as soon as I get back. I'm taking four five I ain't gonna lie at first. I was like, bro, I'm a trippin man Everybody else ain't gonna tell the truth about it. But when it first came nigga, I ain't know what it was I told didn't I tell I said every I leave my clothes at the door nigga like No, I believe when they first hit look, I'm telling my folks, right But if you leave it how about stay where you at man for real two weeks, bro That's what I was doing. I'm wearing gloves and shit. I'm walking around this bitch looking like a crazy man Then I'm like, they letting us wear a mask in the bank. I'm like these niggas tripping Hey when they did that I said, oh, it's gonna be some bullshit They let niggas in with these masks. Oh my god I didn't like it, but if you notice, that's what niggas when you see them when they when they committing They crimes or they act the crime and they out here. They got these masks on cause these masks everywhere now Yeah, so new get a mask quick fact. I got one right here. See what I'm saying They're making a lot of them like They mass producing these damn masks, but I know what's going on like I ain't gonna lie man I ain't gonna speak too deep on that shit either. But everybody knows like what's going on like Even if this shit doesn't die down, which obviously it seemed like it did everybody's still going to fuck out And yeah, some people do get it still some people ain't suffering from it and long little ones that we have lost due to this situation, but I mean It ain't hard to see what's going on. Let's keep let's keep the idea going on Let's keep getting the money. Let's keep selling the lifestyle. Let's keep selling the hand Sometimes let's keep selling that money boy. You talking about millions and millions of dollars What you talking about, man? Come on, man. Man, I'm gonna ask you one more question come on I have one more too. You do you want to go first ladies? I'm here, man. I'm trying to catch it on my face, man. You know what I'm saying? Thank you so much, man. We enjoyed this for so many years. Thank you I was watching another interview and you talked about mental illness and you said that recently you went through something yourself Yeah, here. Your depression. Do you mind talking on on it and letting us know How you overcame it or how you are overcoming it? All right, so mentally I had a mental break now, you know what I'm saying? Um Well, my thoughts kind of over read me and I started to Believe in some crazy shit. Like I'm thinking different shit going on. I'm getting a little pair. No, you know having the episode um And I kind of went on a rant like you know what I'm saying? Start expressing my actual feelings and speaking to people who only have to speak to like that like You know, if you ain't this fuck you nigga. If you ain't around here, fuck you nigga You can't do this for me nigga. Fuck you nigga. I'm with whatever nigga like when it ain't gotta be like that Because I can't blame everybody for something somebody else did And and and it really hit me with you know what I'm saying like I like I I'm so busy I don't get the time to think so I lost my grandmother. Um, I lost partners like like Every week I was losing a partner and I'm talking about recently like You know what I'm saying like a few months ago like and it all just hit me one day I was sitting down. I don't know what I was doing I might have been about to record and I don't know why I hit me. It just hit Boom and I get in this mode and I Get to feeling crazy and I get angry and I get to thinking about all the shit I didn't do like I was just saying the shit I didn't say the people I didn't pull up on who I should have pulled up on um The things I should have did that I didn't do and it just started fucking with me I had an episode and I went on a rant but Now me going on that rant and having people around You know what I'm saying that care for a nigga for real Hey, bro, you know, you know, you ain't wrong if you go, you know, start back going to the therapy, bro For sure. You know, you ain't wrong for how you feel, but bro, you shouldn't you know I mean let the word see you like that You if you feel that don't go nowhere, but just stay in the house, bro Like, you know, I'm saying you feel that shit coming on Um, and how I deal with it. I just kind of like Well now how I've been dealing with it Just I don't give a fuck I'm being honest, like it's like it's like I could try I could I could be real all day And if you don't accept that shit, you'll never accept that shit I'm being myself for a key trying to stress that you So, you know, you could be mad at me because I didn't Post your mid-take. I didn't see your mid-take or a nigga. I've been in the studio. I've been growing I've been using that and I've got my kids and shit like I'm doing a lot my bad No, brother fucked up why you blame it? All right, fuck all right All right, let me start thinking about it because my mind deep mind fucked up Yeah, yeah, yeah going different places and shit. You know what I'm saying and I just I don't give a fuck right. I get it. I got to not even even though shit do bother me I have to tell myself man. Fuck that boy You got this going on fuck that what you're gonna play yourself for this shit They don't give a fuck about you. That's true. You know what I'm saying Why you care about somebody give them a fuck about you? You know what I'm saying? That's it a drive you fucking crazy. It will Damn why you don't love me, bro? I did everything that a real nigga supposed to do I was so loyal and they got never traded never raw never stole never went behind your back And you still saying fuck me But see and again, I go back to you probably cliche but It's spiritual warfare. Yeah, it has nothing to do with the people that you're dealing with It's a spirit and and and I believe I'm a believer So I believe that when that spirit is in there, it's something that's where it goes into Individual to attack you to bring you from a place where basically It's standing between you and your blessing. Yeah So you got to be smart enough not to let anything trick you out of your position But see that and see why I spoke on the mental health shit because I used to see up there Because I used to take medication and I stopped You know with the with the friends and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah That shit gonna make you That's a regular nigga man. You just been through shit. That's why you like that, bro And I'm like, no, bro I'm like and and I ain't saying like, you know, I'm beyond I used to being bad, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but now I'm being under like because it's serious mental health is real It's very many people who are going through what you're going through. Yeah, I done blacked out before and don't even remember like Bro, you was talking to me for shit. Like I'm like, what what the fuck was I saying? Like I'm like when you say that Yeah, I don't say that shit to a nigga in one of them episodes and it happened Two three months later a nigga call me, bro That same as that shit you said happened literally exactly the way you said it. I'm like what I say Damn, you get what I'm saying. That's crazy. But I get it I get it man. Like I said, it happens. It happens. Yeah, but it happens. I've heard it before But but honestly like I said, it's still spiritual warfare I always understand that it's spiritual warfare that it's always and it ain't gonna leave most of the time You be mad at the person and I've noticed when the person leave that same spirit just hopping somebody else It don't leave Listen and the crazy thing about that man, and you know, I just try to understand the word as it is Yeah, because All the shit that we learned all the shit that was taught Could all be real or it could all be false It could all be whatever somebody wanted to be in their own head, right? So I try to see shit for what it is and I definitely feel energies come in the room and shouldn't be like, oh hell Oh really? I just show you about that nigga came to you down and pulling you you get to looking like You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, thanks. No. No, I agree because I know that's the same thing I've been expressing like Hey, man, you just hey, man, you you got to be careful and you got to stay prayed up, but that's all I could tell That's what I believe, you know, I got to keep myself prayed up isolated sometime Meditate isolated because I'm just gonna chill today. I'm gonna I'm gonna fast from talking or I'm trying to condition myself To fight against this warfare that I'm about to face But in everything we do awareness is the first thing you always have to know that you are aware of it Because sometimes somebody can come at you and all of a sudden you want to custom out You want to fight them whatever because you're not realizing what that really Not fair what what's really going on? But if you realize just like a person who is an alcoholic They first have to say I'm an alcohol First say I'm an alcoholic Before they can get help. Oh, yeah I admit it So you have to know or we all have to know that okay that right there as he said is spiritual warfare It is it's not something I can fight physically. So I need to know that Okay, I need to go through this to make me stronger because We're older and we know that okay a lot of things that we've done in the past. We're not Did that person anymore? Fair But we had to go through that to prepare us for where we are right now If we didn't go through that we wouldn't be ready for this year. Are you exactly so Going forward you still have to go through a whole bunch of stuff to prepare you for that goal down the line That we can't see it, but we know that it's predestined in our life. Yeah fair 100 I couldn't say no better myself I'm trying to get these brownie points I want to stay married another 20 years. You know what I'm talking about Hey, that's a beautiful time man. Congratulations. Look what we did man. Yeah, I'm telling you Listen, I'm trying to figure out this shit out too. No, man. I want a family. I'm gonna be It's dope, bro. I want to do a big ass wedding this shit We just did it man. You see how good I'm looking on this picture Hey, man, we working to our perfection man So, uh, Katie flame my partner wanted me to ask you about trail talking no pill talk shout out to you n***a You got a shout out. Yeah Katie flame you did a song with him in east, Texas. You probably remember you do something with so many people It was called we are called trenches It was trenches all this Katie aka flame. I remember the name Katie flame. Yeah, I do remember that But you you've been doing a lot of a lot of song you didn't go. No, it ain't even that I remember. Yeah, I don't remember the song, but I think I do like yeah, like I do so many though for real No, I'm trying to think if I could surprise him and say the hookers on hold on Trench it trench it trench it. Oh, yeah trenches. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Damn man. I think he's a DM me the whole day Katie flame Yeah, yeah, that's you man. No disrespect. I can't even remember the name of the song Yeah, because you gotta do it. You do a lot of the flyer got it's like a black flyer with My father just sent me that he was like man, make sure you ask that because he You when he know all of them, but when you come to like Dallas or whatever and we go through the blog systems or whatever They always send me questions. I'm gonna I'm gonna get to see my brother as the show So I ask because I want to make sure that we you know that I ask you everything that So see I'm tapped in but I know what I love my heart go to all what I love You know what I'm saying? So when I go and start looking I'm like, okay, I love this I'm asking about this or the Birdman. I'm asking about this. I'm with all But I'll be trying to be real with it, man It was another song that I was going to buy but I'm gonna let her go first because she's looking at me with them Little squinty eyes You know, when do you have a next project dropping? um topic well That right top of next year Mike first quarter. Yeah me and jane were early february. What's it called biggie me Yeah, I call it bigger than me because um The the things that I went through bigger than me The sacrifices I made bigger than me. Um The the whole is just so much bigger than me like my kid my family my friends the people who look up to me my fans, uh, you know, um The game the culture the industry like it's all bigger than me. You know what I'm saying? I'm going all in like it ain't just by me Know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. Yeah, so the summer a summer walk or so Big how did how did that happen? So I learned on the track, man. Um, you're learning to be linking up. Yeah, that's my dog Yeah, he's gonna be here. He's gonna put it out there. I'm kind of way. Yeah, that's my man Me and bro Me and bro came from back way way back. Yeah, I like that And um, yeah shot out of learning on the track for even bringing me in the situation So I'm walking for being a real nigga And handling the business properly and you know what I'm saying rocking with a nigga for so But it happened, um London call me and he was like we working on some album And I got this song idea and you the only nigga I know that can got there make it happen And I need you to do it and I'm like, I'll pull up. He playing the beat. I'm listening matter of fact me It was me him one shot deal one shot shot one shot man. Yeah, man. We all went deals in the building Yeah, yeah So y'all went together. Yeah, we went we pulled up They was playing well London was playing the record And then he had a drawing and they weren't even finished. It was just like keys And I went in like he told me, you know, this what we going through. This how I feel about certain shit This how someone feel about certain shit. Um, it's a lot of instagram shit. It's a lot of shade room shit. It's a lot of Pet it shit, right and he gave me the ideas and what I did was I took him in manipulated those ideas with realized situations of mine And then I got them reference that shit in the female way. You get what I'm saying Now I'm tripping over a new you said manipulated, man. I thought about the song with you and he I love the way you guys can laugh man. I'll be watching man It's just a good thing to have a brother and have some brotherly love man. It's all right for niggas to You know No, and that's the way it's supposed to be you don't supposed to wait till it's too damn late That's for sure, man. So I big kudo. Do you you got something else for my guy? Say man the resurrection. We love you brother Hey man anytime you you need us. We'll pull up. Don't don't play up Say we just you family man Like I said, man, where if it's ever need man and y'all know the same thing, man We pulling up and vice versa. Yeah, we coming and at the end of the day If we yeah, we've been here a little months y'all and we got the red sun I'm I'm feeling myself. You know And I'm telling you I love your personality. It's dope, man. Thank you. Thank you, bro. Thank you Like we interview we got 400 some interviews nigga. I know if your spirit ain't right. Oh, I know you do Saddle with a bit like this So what do you think about y'all's to wife, man? All right, because he be he be on my show and niggas be hitting on me like man I'ma tell you exactly how I feel about y'all. All right I can respect any man right there stand on stand on what he's saying. I don't give a damn what he's saying You know, well, I agree with or not a man is a man and a man stand on what they say So I salute that man for being a man if that's how he feel, you know, yeah, yeah now Whatever misunderstandings that be going on from, you know, assumptions or assuming or whatever I feel like, you know, you can't speak on a lot of shit unless you know exactly what's going on Me personally as a man, but he's standing where he say shit. I'm fucking with it stand on I'm looking I'm watching. I'm saluting. Wow. I like it, man. I agree. I agree. I agree. Yeah, and that's only because I don't know No, boys. I don't know Yeah, I don't know that if he goes well, I ain't saluting no bullshit But you know Yeah, I interview him a lot man and and to be honest with you, man We be on a lot of different, you know platforms Like like because of the stuff that happens around him in the controversy But at the end of the day, man, ever since I've been dealing with him Like I said, I look at the part of him bringing them kids over there He blessed a lot of children in my school, you know, I'll be, you know, we clothe different children Oh, yeah, we've been doing it. That's what I look at the realness. I don't and then I don't I don't box nobody into a position of where they at. I let people grow. Yeah So many times people get you. I'm mad at you. So when I'm mad at you was you was a hoe And I keep you in the whole position, but it really ain't true because God done evolved you and I'm over here still mad at the hole That's bullshit. You see what I'm saying because people don't let people grow Fat people don't let people grow. I think that she was instilled in us. Like we got to override that shit Yeah, yeah, I say us. I mean as a whole. No, no, no, I agree You know what I'm saying? Niggas don't want to see a nigga go above a lot of niggas. I ain't gonna say me though I be wanting to see everybody up man Look, I want and I'm gonna be honest. I want everybody up so I can kick back But I'm tired like I'll try a little light man. You feel me? You know, no, you're 100 right, man Like I said, everybody got a win man in the end man I be looking at different people in different legacies man and It looked good, you know, a lot of times people doing better than what they really, you know They ain't broke like like when I look at like when you look at the legacies that been held by rock Whether it be bird man, whether it be jay-z Rockfellow or whatever these people are rich man. Everybody came out of these whole situations Entrepreneurs this rap game is real man. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like it may it changed the entrepreneurship for black people in a major way major and I think we we need to celebrate that I think a lot of times we don't we don't we too busy living in the moment Yeah, niggas don't like I just had this conversation, you know, I'm saying um with bank right with big bank Yeah niggas don't niggas don't celebrate niggas niggas don't um Up niggas like at all like and I don't know why I do I salute like this whole time, you know All the compassion they made I up niggas like I'm loving it. That's what they doing We sound like 100 I support it niggas. Let's work But everybody ain't gonna be you and sometimes we get caught up because we be Just because we keep it 100 we think the next person will and because we did it to them and they not It's always like that man. It's a catch 22 you try to lock in Next and it really ain't meant to be so hey, we we don't want to end it on a bad note though No, we on the good Yeah, because I you know, we don't talk about the haters last Them damn haters. I love them. You got to have them too though. Yeah, you got to have them if you don't got nothing You ain't doing that at all at all man So hey, man, we love you, bro And we appreciate you for coming on boss talk 101 man And when you come into the city in Dallas, we got to get you in the studio too You know, we got to get you in there man. Yeah, I can't wait already man. Thank y'all for having me man I really appreciate it. It was a humbling experience. You know, I'm saying come on man I was looking for you this my I told him I said we are once I get here. I'm good niggas. I don't be in my thing Check it man. Hey, that's been another great segment of boss talk 101 and we have