 Welcome to Toffy TV. It's the final word from the Algarve Cup and joined by Sarah Halcom from the Blue Room to the Scorse. Two games, no wins. Yeah, do you know what though? I think performance is wise. I don't think there's anything to be too worried about. I think there's some really obvious signings that need to be made. But we didn't have those players who don't know what we can expect until they do come in. The first game for me played a load of kids, pretty much. Few of them impressed. Nothing too exciting. I think the main positive of that game, as I previously said, was Mo Vessage. I think he played an absolute binder. Not everyone's going to agree with that. I think he's someone that people still seem to have this view etched in their minds that he's not up to the standard, that he's a championship style player. He's not good enough, he's rubbish, nowhere near to the standard. I think he's just got to remind himself of certain games that he's played. I always refer to the City League Cup games, but not just that one. That's just the one that for me stands out for all of us Blues. He was the best player on the pitch and he's so classy. He can find the past. He's got a bit of toughness about him, a bit of grit and determination. For me it's more a question of whether he can stay fit, but I like the latter for me. That was a positive one. I think what Mo was writing about the fitness, he was never stringing any games together, because he couldn't string any games together. He couldn't get a run in the team to see how actually good he is. On his day he is a good footballer, not only defensively, but I think we've seen at times under Roberto Martinez. He's a footwear spot on. He's clearly loves playing for the club, loves being around the club. He's actually an interesting one, because I think when you look at that game and those players, it was about some of those players. It was almost like a trial for them, because Michael Silver had said before on that. This would be the weekend when he'd start looking at cutting players down. I think he took that and went with him with two hands. It would be interesting because we are striving for a midfielder. I think he did his course no harm at all. I thought he did really, really well. He was at the centre of everything defensively. You've seen the ball he played to Sandro. It was absolutely brilliant. Sandro should have done better when he hit the post. But I thought he was excellent. He's definitely one who played his way into possibly the squad. I think he said afterwards as well to Sky how the training was better and how it felt better on the Michael Silver. He's obviously enjoying it. It would be interesting to see over the next couple of weeks what the club decides to do about the future. Definitely. For me he's someone that I'd like to see in amongst the first team squad for next season. I think it would be a real shame not to see him giving that chance as you've just said there. Having that proper pre-season in, having that regime now in place. I think for all players it's kind of given them a clean slate to go we are treating this as if it's our first day at this club. We're going to impress this new manager and see where we can go with that. But for me, like you said, he did his course no harm whatsoever. The other one I'd say he's done a course no harm is actually Sandra. Again, very mixed bag of responses towards his performance this. But I think he's crossing off the ball as well whenever he takes a set piece. I think he's banged on. He needs the score doesn't he? That's his problem. The thing he's played, what he started off for, I think he has. Well, obviously he's been playing out on that right hand side because there's been no tail walk-off. And obviously Lachman's not played a part in the last couple of games and Alassia hasn't played a part. So he's been instrumental on that right hand side. But you're right, not scoring against ITV when it's 22-0. And then, you know, we've seen him for a couple of chances against Berry and then he's hit the post. So he's been good and I think, you know, playing both games as well has been good for him. He looks stronger, I think he looks fitter. I think that's a big part of it having a pre-season where he didn't have one last season. But I still think, I think what he is and what people think he is are two different things. I think he is a right side of it, or even a left side of a three. He's not a central striker because he's a right. And if you go back to the goals he scored when he was in Malaga, a lot of them were sort of outside of the box or free kick set pieces, as you said, dyneson set pieces. So I think we have to change our idea of what he is. My only worry is, is that when players are fit, you know, is he going to play against in the head of Towson? No. Is he going to play ahead of Bill Walker? No. Is he going to play ahead of Neas? I don't think so. You know, is he going to play? Is he, you know, for me, he still finds himself down in the Pekinode. And I think that's the worry. Would he go, you know, he went on loan last season, his wages are probably going to stop. Even any half decent team has been looking at him. So if they decide, it's up to him to keep fighting if he wants to, if he really wants it. I don't think he really wanted it last season. So it would be interesting to see what the next couple weeks again does he really want it. Definitely. I think you've hit the nail on the head with what you've just said then about, is it is a case of how much does he want it? Because fair play to the lad. I think he was kind of pushing for the move to Spain. That hasn't gone ahead for him. So he's making the best of the situation he's in. And he's really thrown himself into the training, into the games. As you said, he's had more minutes than anyone, I think, in this pre-season. So that's got to, he's got to be feeling that Marcus Hill has got some kind of faith in him. Or maybe it is that he's just really trying to figure him out before he makes that final decision on whether he stays or goes. But for me, that pekinordi, you said, I tend to agree. I think maybe Yma, I don't know. I think you probably would. I don't, I don't think Sylveth sees him as a central striker. He put, that's it. And I think that's, that's correct as well. I don't think he is. You're going to be someone that's going to come in instead of a jengtoason or instead of a umanias kind of thing. But, you know, in terms of, I know we've not got Europe next season, but we've got cup competitions and stuff. Could be a good player to use in those kind of games, in cup games and cup competitions. He's certainly not somebody that I would be upset to see in the first team squad, you know. But on the other hand, I don't know if I'd be that upset if he left either. That's where he sort of falls between, you know, on two sides. So, I think he's young, he's got youth on his side. I think maybe what happened last season with him was because he came in so late after playing in number 21, your old number 21. Maybe he didn't figure out what he was. But, you know, you would think Cooman and Walsh haven't watched him, haven't gone out to Spain and watched him, would know what he was. But I don't know whether they had enough time on the training ground to figure that out. And maybe that's where the problem stemmed. And because the season just seemed to go so fast and so many games in a short space of time, no-one ever had time to really work on what he was. And because I don't think Cooman was a coach, I don't think he coached that many players. So, I don't think that situation was ever addressed, not just for him, but for a lot of players. So, I think that's where he suffered. And you could say the same for other players like Klassen never really developed this positional sense or what was needed to adapt them to the Premier League. And I think so far, I think we've seen that change with Silver Sofa, that he understands what his role is. Maybe faturist, faturistly, because Theo Wolcott isn't in the squad, he's got to see him a little bit more. And that ultimately could really help us in the season if he decides to keep them. Yeah, this is it. It's all practice and he's getting the minutes in there. He's getting experience playing with the rest of the team. So, it's going to be doing the lad, the world of good, I presume, confidence-wise. You just said there about Cooman as well. And I don't think the man had any kind of man-managerial skills about him whatsoever. So, for these young players, you spoke about his age there, he's just 21 now. And you think for a kid, really, if that age should be... I mean, he doesn't look 21, 22. I mean, he looks like he should be on the doors in town. He's got that kind of physical side to him, which I'd like to see a little bit more of, because once he gets bumped, he normally just goes down. That's another thing, if he's got to lane that, it's from a bump to him, he's got to bump him back and roll with it in the Premier League because he's stronger than other players. And if he's stronger, instead of hitting the deck at every opportunity, ride the challenge and you probably will get more chances if you get into the positions. That's it. And I think the games that we've played so far will probably have helped toughen him up a little bit. Because we've seen he's been getting chunks taken out of him, hasn't he? But, you know, part of me doesn't mind seeing that. Because, as you said, it's getting him kind of bloody into the style of things a little bit more. So, yeah, it'd be really interesting to see what he'll be like with a full pre-season under his belt. I think there's obviously a few more games coming this week. And I'd like to see probably a little bit more. But yeah, walk up for me, we've missed him certainly as well. And you've got to think when he's fit again, he's going straight into that starting 11, isn't he? He's won that it will go straight into the team. I think, yeah, I think they were the main two. I think the ass was just in the ass, you know. I think you just did what he always does and you know what you're going to get from him. You're going to get that rattedness from him. But it was just disappointing that the likes of Clasen had his goal disallowed and Sandro hit the post. Because I think that was the represented, you know, that little bit of extra that they both just need to settle down. I'll be honest, I was disappointed with Clasen. I don't, I watch him and I've given the lad every chance. But I just don't think that his skill set adapts to this heaven side. I just don't think it does. I think maybe where he wants to play, we've got better players and where they're trying to play him. He doesn't really fit. And I think also, I think he needs a team, almost built random. I see him as almost like a kale kind of player that you have to, almost like a luxury, something that you can, you'll arrive late in the box. I just can't see it work and I really can't and sometimes that just happens. Yeah, and it's a shame, isn't it? I think when we brought him in last summer, we were all excited. Ajax captain, you know, and he's chosen to come to Everton and thinking he's going to be a bit of a star player for us. And it's just not gone that way at all. And we've all been kind of rooting for him. Haven't we as a fan base thinking we'd love this lad to come good because the way he's kind of been treated and he's still showing that grit and determination to crack on. But yeah, largely anonymous in all of his play. And when he does, yeah, he was very unfortunate because that goal should have stood that he scored. But even that, that's just one of those, isn't it? That's it. But then there's other opportunities he has and he always seems to fluff it. He just, we're all dying for him to do something, come good, score a goal, like get an assist or whatever. But you know, that's what he has to be doing. And unfortunately he's not delivering even now at this stage with his preseason. So yeah, I'm starting to think that he's got to be moved on. He strikes me as one of those players that will probably start the season at Evan. But I imagine towards the back end of the window on the continent, because obviously their window stays open, they can still buy our players. And I don't imagine Evan will sell many players after, but I can see him as someone who will end up moving to take. He's sort of maybe a week into the season when it's quite obvious that he's not going to be playing games or something like that. And he's, you know, he's, it's clear that he's not, he's not seen as, he doesn't look like he's seen as one of the, one of the people even fighting for those places, because he just hasn't gone. I don't think he's got that intensity that Michael Silver's looking for in his midfield, because obviously we've set up. You can see the way he wants to set up now. You know, it's a high press with the full backs getting forward. And the midfield have to really be on it. And he just seems to stroll about in his own, at his own pace. And he, I think he does, he does want to get involved. I just don't think he's got that change of gear. It's not quite clear, but it's just, you can tell it's there. And it's a very different standard, isn't it, as well? From what he's come from to coming into the Premier League, you know, massive, massive difference in standard of football here and the pace and the physicality. And, yeah, it's starting to look now that he just hasn't got it in his locker, unfortunately for him. Unfortunately for the club, because we spent quite a bit of money on him. He's had so many chances now. And I do think, as we said before, it's a new pre-season, new manager, changes, fresh start for everyone judging on what we've seen so far for me. It's not quite going to cut it. As I said, you can tell by the fact that, you know, in the games he's come on as a Sorbonne. He doesn't really seem to be part of the first 11. And you think about it, he's not part of the first 11. You might as well just cut our losses with him because, you know, he has to play somewhere. He said he wanted to stay, he wanted to fight for his place. I just don't think that he's got the intensity, I think, for me to get into the team. No, we'll wait and see, but I mean, as you said, it was mostly kids playing. So it's hard to really judge those kids. But Pennington, not for you now. No, I don't think he's got anything that we need. And I think he's watched 24. He's not as young as what people expect. He's 23, 24, so I don't think he's as young as people think he is. And I think, I know he's just signed a new contract, but I just don't. I think he's the kind of player that maybe you let go somewhere and maybe put a buyback closing or something. And then wait two or three years and see what games of football comes to be. But I think he looks like one of those players that will have a good career at a level, maybe like a duffy kind of player, but has to play football. Because he looks like a kind of player who needs experience. Definitely. And as you said at that age as well, now is the time when he really should be getting his regular football. And he'd come back from Leeds, wasn't it? And to be honest, I thought that he was going to end up leaving and signing for them. So I was quite surprised to see that he'd signed a contract with us. But yeah, he didn't do anything for me to particularly stand out. Someone, again, I'm not too fussed. But no, that's it. But I think the left back for me, Robinson, is passing and stuff was poor, but that lad is quick. No, the difference with Robinson is. He's younger, obviously. You know, he's got potential. To be honest, I wouldn't say that was a big part of his game. What we've seen because I've watched him play, watched him play for the 23s, I watched him play for America, watched him play for Bolton. That lad's got everything that you need. He just needs to hone it and get it tighter and become more experienced. I think that was, I think he was, I think it was enough game for him, I think. But you see him with his pace. Listen, if you're a defender and you make mistakes, if you can use your pace to solve those mistakes out, then that's a big thing. And you can almost use that pace as, well, I'll lay in the other things because I've got my pace. And I'm gone. And it's the same with the other end as well. You know, James Coleman never started as a great defender. He wasn't even a great attacker, but what he had was pace and what he'd get himself into situations where he had to get better because it allowed him to go, but it forgave so many other sins. Having pace will do that for you. And obviously he went on loan, which was this last week, mean bad. He went on loan to Blackpool and got a promotion. And Robinson is learning the other way. He's got a, he's, you know, he played in a team that survived. Now, if we bring a left back in this week, I imagine he'll go back on loan. But I'd like to see him go on loan to a club striving to be promoted. Yeah. Or, or, or I mean, I don't think it would happen because of just the way the Premier League is now. Was a team where he played weekend and week out in the Premier League, but I don't think that will happen. But if you play for a championship team where he was striving to win and played every week, then I think that would be ideal for him. Yeah. And in terms of his playing everything as well, confidence wise, you said if you're a team that's that's winning regular and fighting for a promotion, then you do get that confidence. You get that winning mentality. The style of the way you play football and everything is different if you're striving for that instead of like looking at who's, who's underneath you and, and trying to stay up. So I think some of that maybe came across in, in his game. Some of his passing when you're looking for him to go forward, he's playing it a little bit cautious. Some of his passing was off, but I think he's someone with bags of potential. Like you said, his pace, that is an uncommon thing. He's got youth on his side. I would tend to agree with you there and like to see him. I'd love to see us bring it. We need a left back, sign a left back, maybe see him go out on loan again, cut his teeth a bit further. But he's someone that I certainly have been watching this preseason and thinking we've got a real player on our hands there for the coming future. Yeah, because I think if we brought a, if we brought, say we brought a left back in this week, you know, him and, him and whoever that is, I'm not like literally not saying anything because you say a name and it doesn't happen. And then you're like, yeah. Most wanted, most hated. I wanted to take it two weeks ago and now, you know, no, but say we bring a left back in and you've got veins and those two play for the position this season. And then maybe veins bars out at the end of the season. I'm not saying he will, but maybe let's say he does, right? So, and then you bring Robinson back. You've got then, you've got then a young left back and then maybe a mid-20, 20 left back fighting for that position. I think that's a perfect scenario rather than, rather than a 19-year-old and a 33-year-old, which are just poles apart. You've got to have players who are not, but you know, to have a good squad in football, if you've got two players fighting for a position, of course you're an experienced on the team, but if you've got a player hitting his P and then a younger player, that's ideal for me. That's okay. It's not quite the same, but Seamus is obviously younger than Baines and you've got John Joe Kenny. I think that's just where you want it. That's just how you want it. John Joe, again, he played on Saturday. He's not anywhere near the final product, but he looks at, he can look at Seamus now in his peak and say, they're the things I want. With his LL, I was Robinson and I was looking at Baines. You're not looking at Baines at his best. You're looking at Baines two, three, four years past his best. So although he's training, you'll be able to pass on all that experience. He's not necessarily not watching him deliver. Yeah, you're not watching him deliver. Whereas for John Joe, he's watching Seamus and he's going, that's what I need to do. That's what I need. Those are the ones I need to make if I get an opportunity in this team. So that I think be the perfect scenario because I think Robinson's, I think he's got something. I think he's in the American team as well. You know me, I'm always looking for a route to get to America or for American fans to come and watch Evan. So that's good as well. So I think he's definitely got potential. I wouldn't write them off and I think you might just need that extra loan. But yeah, I mean, obviously there's others that like to corner me. He did all right, I thought. I think he's good. Again, he's another one. I think I probably think with other players about he might need a loan, another loan. But yeah, we'll wait and see. It's exciting though, isn't it? That we've got so many potential bud in young talents that we just kind of got to figure out what's the best thing to do with them. I think I just worried that there's not there's not one really banging down the door. Rooney or something. Well, I don't think I think Rooney's not going to come around it. But I just think I don't know. Maybe maybe they're not banging on the door because they're already there, if that makes sense. So which we saw on Saturday night. Obviously Saturday was a lot more of a first team, although, you know, it was still missing Theo Wolcott. It was still missing Garn. It was missing Sigarton. It was missing Pickford. And it was missing somebody who can play on the left-hand side and his name is not Kevin Morales. So, so now if we get nuked, there's going to be cockroaches and Kevin Morales left. Honestly, just just just kind of get rid of them. Can you? Oh, my words. But do you know what? I said this before, fair play to him. His attitude has been spot on in pre-season, you know, and he's looked okay, but yeah. If you pay, that's why you pay 50 million for a new left-hand side player. So we, there's still plenty of room in there. And I still think there's I think there's room in other places, but I like to doubt and I like to doubt an interest on one because I think we just talked about people knocking on the door. He seems to be the young player who is knocking on the door. He seems to be. He's played pre-season almost as a Sigarton light. You know, he's there. No, no one else has been really used in that position apart from him. So that's interesting that he sees him as almost second to Sigarton. So it'd be interesting to see whether that carries on because that kid's got loads of potential. But as we've said loads of times on the show me bars, he just misses that key ingredients, which is the again that weird intensity, the intensity that you need to play at to be a regular in the Premier League. But when he steps up and when he does nice things, it's great. It's just doing that a little bit more often. Yeah, I completely agree. It's that consistency with him. And yeah, it seems like he's a bit nonchalant sometimes in his performances. And that's a concern because you would think that this would be the time where he'd really go right. We know that Marco Silva as well is a high. He likes football at high intensity and now is his real time to shine. Sigarton late coming back from the World Cup and everything like that. So he's he's had a lot of minutes and he's had his chance to kind of show what you can do. And I don't think he's done badly, but he's not blown my socks off either. And I was kind of hoping that he would. He was what was really looking forward to watching. I think I think he had moments in this game, but I think that typifies him as a player. Again, it's that it's that what they do next with him. It's whether the I probably wouldn't send them out on loan if we don't buy another midfield that I would because I think as a creator force, I think I think playing in the Premier League might help him. It might almost like open his eyes. At the end of the day, it's still preseason. Yeah, it's it's not about maybe the things people think. Sees, you've got players like let's say Mo Bessard. You really did play with an intensity because he knows it's his last chance. He wants to be in heaven. He knows that if he goes anywhere, it's going to be a step down. So he wants to stay in heaven. He wants to be part of this. Keelyn Dahl probably looks at and goes, I'll be all right. And he's probably been told, you know, play a certain way. You know, we want to see this when you want to see that from you. Don't be legging round all over the pitch. Just play your role. So it'll be interesting to see if he stays at heaven and doesn't go on loan. What he'd be like put dropped into a Premier League setting where suddenly, wow, it's 100 miles an hour. I've got to step up. I've got to do these things. I think a forest last season, I think there were times in the season where he was he was well on it. And then there's other times where he dropped off and that's that's young player for you. I think see this is where I think when people look at people like Tom plays at Tom Davis and they go, why is he playing and why isn't he playing? Why is Tom playing and why isn't classing playing? You know, why is Tom playing and what Keelyn Dahl could have done that? It's because Tom understands no matter how good you think he is. Tom understands the intensity of the Premier League. You understand how fast it is. He knows when someone's going to do something and he'll win a file. All right, he makes a little mistake. See his passing can be a ratter. He plays sometimes like he's playing on the ball. See those mates and love that. So he's. Sometimes you need a little you just think he doesn't need a little jolt and need to be woken up a little bit and hopefully that will come out of him. But that's the difference. Tom knows what it's like to play in the Premier League. He's understood literally from the first minute you got to go in the Premier League. He was like, I'm on it. I understand the pace and that's what Keelyn Dahl for me. He's got to do. He's got to be dropped in and to understand the pace of it. And only when he gets in and gets a game and goes, now this is this is under mines and I'll stuff this. I've got to adapt to this that we'll actually know if he's good enough. Yeah. So you're saying that and I think I definitely keep him. Yeah. And you know who knows because you spoke about him at Forest there as well and to completely contradicts in sides to the season. You know, he was the first half of the season. I watched a fair bit of him and he just was unbelievable. I thought, what a player. Why have we let him go? We could really do with him ever and now. So, yeah, he's not necessarily blowing my socks off, but there's still a few more games. And like you said, I'd still be happy to see him say if he was starting against Wolves on the opening day, I wouldn't be concerned. I don't think he'll ever play like he'll blow your socks off, I'm afraid. I think he's got a quite a laid back style about the way he plays, but that's fine. It's long as when you are on the ball, you do something with it. Football's always had laid back people. In fact, it's that thing when people say, oh, he makes his own time on the ball. Feel yn dal feels like a player like that to me. That when he gets on the ball, he knows straight away he's got a picture in his head of what's going on around him. It's just that he's got to understand that. He won't get on the ball as much as he wants to, unless he puts himself in the right area. And then he's got to, I mean, I always think he's one of those players that when he gets his face touches, always great. It moves him away from the player marking him, which is something that you don't see a lot of young players do. His range of passings go to his left pegs is brilliant. It's just that he's got to make sure that he doesn't become a bystander, because that's when you become a classing. That's when you become someone who's just running around, but there's no purpose to your game. So I think he has to, I'd like to see him in the squad and getting opportunities. And then we'll just see where the line lies, because I think he can be a game changer in the team. And he's still young enough that he'll surpass players that are at the club now in the long term. So he's an excellent footballer just about bringing that out. Definitely. And he's, like you said, about his left foot there as well and changing games. He's got that in his locker as well here that it could be games tied up. If there's 20 minutes to go, you bring Ciaran Daol on him, he could just score an absolute screamer. And that's the kind of thing that he can do that you go, wow. But yeah, he has got that more laid back style to his play. And it'd be interesting to see what the step up is like for him next season, because I should imagine that it will be gilfee, but that he'll very much be a part of the squad. Well, he can play off the left, and he can play off the right as well. And he can play as a number 10, so he gives the manager options straight away. A rotation maybe? I mean, the game itself, I thought the first half, I thought we were brilliant. I thought the intensity was so much higher, but it was a Christmas, so our passing. I thought every time they had it, we tended to win it back. But I thought for that first half, we were right at it. Again, Cenk Daol from very unlucky. I mean, that would have been a fantastic goal if he'd scored the way he brought it down and manipulated the play, hitting the post. I thought we were right on it and, you know, set pieces we looked dangerous from. Sandro looked okay, playing on that right hand side. So I thought we looked really good in that first half. The first half was dead exciting, I thought, to be honest. I know there's still players that are coming in and hopefully there'll be a few more added as well. But yeah, I thought this was it. This was a real glimpse of this is what Marco Silva wants. This is the style that he wants to implement. This is the way we're going to play high pressing, high intensity attacking football. And we were working well as a unit as well. I thought it was the first time we actually looked like a team. There's not people looking in different directions and running away from the ball. And yeah, Cenk Towson, very unlucky. What a goal that would have been, as you say, and he's someone as well who I just am dying for him to get some more goals in the coming three season games. But I'm so excited to see what he can do next season if we can get somebody in as well and get him the right service. Yeah, that's all of the service for them. This is it, isn't it? This is what we need. We don't want them. I mean, it's nice that he's getting involved in the play, dropping in and getting back. That's great. But we need to get... It's basically about getting those wide players having pace because if we've got pace and we suddenly stretch put teams and Cenk can get on the shoulder of that last player and get the ball into him, we've seen this finishing is brilliant. But at the moment, the problem is, is that because we're still a slow team, because we haven't got those fast players, everything's slow up through. That means that defenders can get around them because they're not getting dragged out and ultimately he's not getting the chances. But I thought what was good was I think on Wednesday and to Betty, we were like that for the first 20 minutes. We were really at them, really, really at them. And then we dropped off in this game. It was for the first 45 minutes. And then after the break, the pace just dropped a little bit. And they had a couple of chances, but it was that one chance that he had when obviously he scored from it. And I mean, I still think we need to massively improve. And that's where obviously a left back comes in. Keane and Jags, a worry me. Keane particularly just frightens the life on me whenever he plays. Went down to watch him play burry earlier in the week and last week, sorry. And I just thought, this is, this is Barry. And he just looked lost. He didn't want the ball. There was, there was a time where, where he had the ball at the back and you've got Jags there and there's the ball running towards him. And he's like, I just pass it to Jack. Just pass it. Just but he's thrown into there. Yeah, but that then spreads throughout the whole side. You can see it, you know. And I mean, I just love to see Jordan Pickford like laying into him next season, but I'd prefer not to actually. I'd prefer to see a different pairing in for me. I don't want to see him starting forever to me. I'm starting to think he's. I think the problem is, I think the problem is is that with Jags next to him, Jags being of, of, you know, of an age now. I say that and he's obviously younger than me. He's of an age now where he's coming to the end and I suppose Jags wants someone next to him that is going to do that running for him. And probably Jags is probably like, this fella can't do the running for me. You know, you want, you want to help, but you almost want it like a whole gate in there who's got the pace who might have a mistaken him, but he's got the pace to get him off the trouble and Jags can almost go, well, this is what you need to do. And then keep, but then Keane probably looks and goes, well, I need someone next to me who can offer a little bit more than. And that's the problem, I think, because Keane will never be a leader. Yeah, I've said this so many times as a defensive unit, you need an alpha. You always need an alpha. You need someone who's going to tell your defenders to step up and move and all the rest of it. And I think that's what Jags is because of his age. So we need to, we need to go and buy an alpha. We really do. Someone with a bit of pace and someone who will organise the back line. Sometimes you don't always get that pair together. Sometimes you get your alpha who's like Jags and then you have a distance who's got the pace and they complement each other so well. So we need to because I look at our four centre backs and pretty much terrified by a little bit of everything. You know what I mean? Like Ashley Williams just terrifies me. Keane, I just, that goal tripled that what he's like. And there was another one with Ailey on in the game when they played the ball first half. They played the ball left from the left into the box and the lad ghosted in and just got a little touch on it and Stechelmaid got it, but Keane didn't know the lad was in the same postcode as him. This is the thing. You constantly watching his game and you thinking where is he looking here? What is he doing? He's a centre back. He's a professional Premier League footballer. How doesn't he know how to do the basics of defending? And this isn't just a one off. This seems to happen every single game that he plays. Every game I've seen Keane play in the past sort of six months or however long it's been. There's been so many head in my hands moments and that is not what you need from your centre backs. That's really. Don't think he smells danger? No, he doesn't. But I don't know if he's again another one who's if it's a combination of him made of being a little bit too laid back with stuff as well. Confidence issues. He's visibly a very, very nervous human being and footballer. And for me, he's just not going to cut it. As you said them for Jags, Holgate, Keane and Williams. That's very worrying for me. The best one out of them is by far Holgate. But as you said, he's still young. He's still got a stake in it. But he's young and I think he's had an injury. So it's the manager maybe hasn't put him in for that reason. But he's young and he again is another one who needs someone next to him who's going to show him the ropes. Yeah. Because at the moment you're looking at anything and Jags has got to start in the first game of the Premier League. And you think, yeah, that's not the position we want to be. Because the more fact is, if everyone want to play the style they want to play, they need pace at the back, they need to push up, they need the hat. We can't play a high line the way it is. If we don't play a high line, then the midfield is going to drop. And the midfield is going to drop. How do you press? You can't press like that. So, you know, that needs to be rectified. I'm sure it will. But then on the flip side of that. You know, in the three games we've seen this week, OK, we've hit the post 47 times, I don't know what it is. That was just do more. But we're not scoring enough goals either. We need, we're not even scoring enough goals. I don't think we're creating the chances at the moment. So, I mean, that all comes from the style of playing. That'll all be developed. But I think, but listen, that was the second half. That's when that was when the energy was starting to be set. They made a lot of changes as well. We, our players were getting pushed for, you know, 70, 75 minutes, just more than any of them have played. So, there's always going to be that drop off. And, you know, there was second half and you can see it. So, I'm just glad that they've added an extra pre-season game. They've added the game against Wren next week. I think that's really important again. You know, we'll play Thursday, Saturday. I think that's really important. And then we'll have a week play Valencia and then have another weekend. Hopefully we can get players in because of the deaths before them. I just thought for that 45 minutes against Porto and being the first team, I just thought the shape, I think everyone watching was very positive of the hard time, what they'd seen. At the end of the game, okay, maybe people were, you started, you've been beaten and you start to see the doom and gloom. But I think for that 45 minutes, I think there was definitely a progression and just a bit more added on. I loved watching that first half. I really enjoyed watching that first half. As I said, I thought we played some really nice football and more than anything, as we both said, it is about exactly that, showing that we've got that style and this is the model and you can see that brand and that silver influence. It's just now a matter of, still, we're still in the same boat where we need to ship off the deadwood and sign some players. But I know it's frustrating, you know, after the World Cup, it's very frustrating and my nails are shorter than they've been at the moment for a while, I've been nervous. But I do have faith that the board and the manager will bring players in. You know, and I think once that they do, we all start to feel a lot better. If you bring in like two or three before the game this season and we've got Wolcott back and we get Sigurdtson back and we get Ghana back. Pickford as well. Then suddenly the team looks very, looks a lot different. And hopefully that'll start this week on, you know, Thursday we'll start to see Sigurdtson and Ghana and hopefully Wolcott as well. Because, you know, I don't like the fact that he's injured. I don't like the fact that he's missing pre-season. Whether he's missing actual trainer or whether he's missing just games, I don't like the fact that he's missing games because he's such a big important player to the way we're playing. I think the way we're playing on the map of silver that you want him in the side as well. Then obviously on that left-hand side, whether it be a new player, whether it be, you know, I don't know. But I imagine that left-hand side won't be Kevin Morales. So you've got a lot of, you've got half your team there still to come back. So, you know, it's all this doom and gloom. It's not doom and gloom. I actually think once a signing's coming and a few more go, I think everyone starts to feel a lot more positive. Good times ahead. I've been saying that for, I don't even know why I'm looking at me watching. Not like some kind of time machine. I've got to count down on me watching the last time you had good times at Everton. Well, no. Anyway, let us know your thoughts in the comments on the two games over the weekend, the Algarve Cup. Big thanks to Sarah for coming in and doing her instant reaction on Friday night as well for the game. So let us know your thoughts in the comments and we'll see you later on top of you.