 You carry them talking. Hello everybody, an improtu podcast, a surprise one for Paul. But we're testing out some new kits. You didn't realize we were going to be doing this, but we are and we're not in a pub. And there's a reason for that. I have a surprise for Mr Goddard. End you guys, hold the line. I'm nervous now. Oh dear. The agile pale ale and the pubcast pale ale. So you made this at home. You made this at home, did you? I did. This is the results of my home brew experiment. I'm a little bit nervous because obviously I've had to put them in packages. And so they were in a barrel and they had they were a little bit carbonated. You've even done the labels. Oh yeah, I've made the labels. I've even got the back. It says a pubcast pale ale. One of the outcomes of an agile experiment, an agile coach of pubcast landboard, that's main. Tested one batch of beer with different hops. This is a dark malt base with Syrian Golding hops, which give it a slightly sweet, sharp and citrusy aroma. Very good. So we're going to, we're going to try, I shouldn't have done that really. I shouldn't have done it. Let me try. Let me try. So now when you ask me what that tastes, I'm just going to read out that label. Yeah, so I'm hoping for a little bit of a pop, but I'm not sure it will. You've even designed, Jeff, you've got fire extinguisher time in your hands. It looks like whiskey. That's because it's a whiskey glass. So there was more of a head on that one. I pulled it this morning. Have you tried this yet though? You have tried this. I have tried it at various stages. Okay. So this is the, this is the base one. This was the normal one. Right. Following the recipe. Okay. This is what I'm calling the agile pale ale. So this has got a couple of different hops in it, but they're basically safe, safe hops. Easy to drink. There's unsafe hops. Well there's riskier hops. Right. So I've, I've, that's part of why the experiment was in place because I didn't know which hops I like. Okay. So rather than just follow the rest of small batch, I took the same batch of beer, split it into two, put different hops and different barrels. Okay. So that I could maximize my learning. Okay. So you got a bit, gave it a little bit of a benefit of the doubt because it would normally have a head on it, but I had to transport it to London. Smell. Smells nice. It smells like squash. It tastes like beer. It tastes like beer. Yeah. Yeah. Anything else other than that? Just beer. It's a pretty safe. Pretty normal. It's a 4.9% on your label. Is that official? No. You got to get it. But it's close. Okay. So I, I could work it out. Right. But I couldn't be bothered. Okay. So I know it's about that. Brood in England by Jeff Watts. So is this your retirement plan, is it Jeff? Well, we'll see. I'm at malt base. Kent got into fuggal. Fuggal hops. Is that right? Fuggal? Fuggal. Yeah. So now you can try the other one. Let's see which you like the better. So this is the experiment. Very good. Here's, here's a tasting glass number two. I'm pleasantly surprised by how it's worked out to be honest. Okay. Yeah. Is it better when it comes straight out of the barrel, but hey. So this one's called podcast. Podcast. PPA. Right. PPA. Smell. Smell different. Yeah. So it's the different hops. It's more floral, right? I don't know. I don't know. I've got no palette at all for beer. It does taste quite, yeah, floral. Yeah. Floral. That's the one. Tiny. Yeah. It's more sharper than that one. Yeah. Yeah. It's more like, I don't know which I prefer. I think I prefer the first one. I think I do. I think most people probably would if they're not beer drinkers. Yeah. I would say because that's a, there's nothing really, it's just plain. Yeah. It isn't. It's just plain. This one's a bit, a bit, a bit more challenging. It's a bit about it. Yeah. That was the idea anyway. So. Yeah. Very good. The idea of. But it looks, I mean, it looks drinkable and there's no, it's not cloudy. It's not, it doesn't look. So the technical term there is it's dropped clear. Is that right? Is that good? Yeah. So all the sediment is in the bottom of the bottle. So how much of it are you made? I think in total, about 40 pints. Of both? No, no, no. So there was 40 pints of sort of the base. Okay. And then I dry hopped them in two different batches. And there is a YouTube video online, isn't there? Well, I'm going to do a compilation because there were little videos along the way that our patrons could see. Okay. So I might make a little compilation. A montage. Yeah. Because there's various steps in the process. And so you, you can test it. So basically, because it's a live beer, as it, the longer it stays in the barrel, the more the taste changes. Okay. So it's sort of sharper and a bit more lively. Can you stop it? Can you then decide? Okay. You drink it. You can't preserve it at such a state. Yeah, I think you could if you put it into a bottle, maybe. I don't know. I like the labeling as well. You've taken a lot of time over that. Well, you know, I have a little bit of a gap. It's good. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the process. I enjoyed the results. That's nice. So you kept some at home. This is my favourite. Is it? Which one? The second one. Is it? Yeah. I was speaking to the guy in the shop and I said, I don't know anything about the hops, but I know I do like a bit of a tangy, citrusy, bitter taste. So we'll try this one to start with. So the idea is, I've got two that I can compare them against. So I prefer this one. So then I'll run a couple of experiments and compare this one to another one or two similar ones and then I can sort of just keep experimenting. That's a unilever experiment. Just keep variations on the theme that you like. Yeah. That's a cold case to leave behind that. Yeah. Agile. That's kind of what we're going with it. Very good. So maybe we'll have a batch and you can buy some for Christmas. Well, there you go. There's an opportunity. I don't think it's very cost effective. Is it not? Well, so these bottles were like four quid. Well, they are litre bottles, two pints in there, but still. And I've got a bottle capping machine there so I can match this properly. And if I was going to keep them in a bottle for longer, I could put a little bit of sugar in them and that would keep the carbonation. But I knew I wasn't even going to open it today, so I thought I wouldn't pop it. It would just make it taste sweet. Very good. Well, there you go. Short little video for you there. We'll be back with a proper pubcast later. But for now. Cheers. Cheers.