 All right, hey guys, we got a new episode of Talk of the Town, today we got a special guest, Cush been flocking. Cush been flocking, so it never stopped me, I know you're wrong. So, everybody wants to know, like why you changed your rap name? Fresh out of jail, new start, new beginning for me, I want to like brand myself a little better for me, because as some people may not know, I'm not Blicky Game, as on the top of the fact that I want to just start a new start for me, so I want to brand myself better for me, so yeah, it's a new start for me, timeline for me to turn up, you know I've been flocking, so. So are you signed or independent? I'm independent, strictly independent. Okay, okay, okay, so when you was growing up, who was you listening to? Then, I listen to a lot of niggas, I ain't call I'm real, I'm real broad, I listen to not only rap music too, I listen to a lot of pop, R&B, pop, all that shit, you know, I couldn't even, a lot of people, I listen to a lot of pop. So who's some pop artist that you fuck on right now? Alright, listen, I ain't been heavy on my pop shit lately, but when I was heavy on it, I was listening to Billie Eilish, I was listening to Post Malone, I was listening to Close, it's a few people, I was locked in on my pop shit, especially when I was in jail, you feel me? Why in jail, is this different energy? Nah, because it was just more of nothing to do, I'm exploring, you feel me? I'm dead. Alright, so do you consider yourself a drill artist? Nah, definitely don't, I just consider myself an artist, period, I make music, you feel me, it don't gotta be drill, it could be whatever, I make music. Okay, and how did you get into music? Like, what's your earliest memory? I've been rapping all my life, my first memory of recording music is probably with my pops, me and my brother recorded the song called ATM Money, if you remember back in the days, Busta Rhymes had that song, we gettin' A ride money, that shit right there, we did that shit over, we had a song called ATM Money. So y'all was like, what, like 15 at that time? Hell no, he was mad young, like mad mad young, I was probably in fourth grade when we made that song, but third grade, so I was probably like 8, 8, 7 around there. So y'all was in the booth since kids? Yeah, that's the fact, we've been doing this for mad young. Okay, so your father has been supportive of the music scene since the beginning? Okay, so when did you start taking music seriously? We started getting real serious about it when we dropped that first song in like 2015, Street Talk, when we dropped that first video, that's when we really started taking it serious. Okay, and then was the plans for you and Kay to be the dynamic duo? Yeah. Okay, alright, so what song you feel like made Jop-Pop or what song you feel like had the streets, everybody looking at y'all? We had a couple tracks, our little Street Talk trilogy, How People's Is, then we came with the trip to the 50s, we came with Ba-Vas, we came with a whole lot of, we came with FTO, like we had a whole lot of tracks and I came with my little mixtape, me and Kay gave him had to, like we had a lot of tracks that I feel like woke the streets up, that's a fact. Okay, so how do you feel about how the music scene is from then to now? Shit is kind of watered down to me now, like it's like anybody could do it now, you feel what I'm saying? It's not like nobody's paying attention to who's really doing this shit and who's really just getting in the booth and making it soon, you get what I'm saying? Okay, so you think it looks too easy now? Yeah, it's way too easy now, anybody could do it. If you drop a song right now, you gonna go up, Koei. No way. I promise you. So, but you got locked up in a peak of your career, trim to the 50s, half a middle up thing, something like that, and then, so you got locked up while everybody was going up at that time? Yeah. Like, what's your thoughts on how, where everyone is now? I know it's real different from back then. I mean, everybody know my stance on shit like this, I put not, if you was rapping around the time I was rapping, I can't stress this enough, I put not, I'm proud of you if you made it out with the shit you heard, I can't stress this enough. So what's make it out to you? Cause you got artists like Jay Critch, you got like Kodak Black. It don't matter, like to me, if you better your situation and you coming outside and you looking better than what you was before you got that good, and you doing good to me, you feel me? You doing good, you got your family out the hood, you feel me? You got some money in your bank account, you got money. Okay. Alright, so what's some of your career goals? Um, career goals, definitely, to be honest, I don't know, my short term goals right now, basically I want to get on all the major platforms where all the sound artists end up on in terms of like BET, in terms of Hot 97, in terms of filming like shit like that, big radio stations like that, big platforms like that. Okay. So that's just a little PR marketing stuff, that ain't nothing crazy. Yeah. Cause you know artists be like, oh I got a hit of million views. Nah, nah, nah, that's not the goal, I'm not doing it cloud. Okay. I want to make it something, you get what I'm saying? So filming a million views ain't about nothing, I could drop a video today that might hit a million views. Okay. So a lot of people say like in your songs, you don't curse. Yeah, that's a fact. So is that on purpose? I mean, yeah, but like, no, cause I've been doing it for so long, like it's like natural to me, for me, but yeah, I'm not cursing in my songs, like that's not what I'm doing. Yeah, so you ready, you radio ready? Yeah, basically, all my songs is ready already, you want to get my shit on there, get up there, it's there. So like, but how did you get in that pattern of not cursing like? Um, when I was younger, cause remember I told you, Yeah, my past is basically on some shit like if I'm out of y'all in the studio, to play this shit in front of your family, because they're going to see y'all in that studio, they're going to want y'all, they're going to want to hear the music, you feel me? So in order for y'all to make music, you have to talk about what y'all want, just y'all can't curse. That's why that was our only stipulation. So we can't curse to go to a free studio, a million dollar studio, shit ain't about nothing, you feel me? So you've been in practice that for me, yeah. So that's about old enough of age where I could do what I want, I just stuck with it, fuck it. Okay, so how did the lockup, being locked up affect your artistry, you feel like? You feel like you got better, got worse, you got more inspiration? I feel like I grew as an artist, but like, I don't feel like it's because of jail, I feel like I grew with all this when I was in jail or not, because I like music, like I'm really, this is my thing, my passion, you feel me? But jail just kind of like, opened me up to shit that I wasn't really paying attention to when I was living freely, you feel me? Like what? Like it started to make me realize like little shit, like how, like it made me appreciate shit, like how lucky I am, you feel me? Feel it walk outside, like, yeah, you get what I'm saying? I can't go outside, I can't do what I want to do, and my family is dead for me. It's certain people that don't got family there for them, you get what I'm saying? Yeah. Like I'm starting to realize certain shit that I got that I might have taken granted for, like, all right, cool. Okay. For me? Okay, so do you feel like you had to adjust to your sound though? Being that you came out and like, yeah, when I first came home? Yeah, that's a fact, because when I first came home, mind you, I'm in jail. So I'm hearing, hearing there, I'm hearing little certain shit that's hot in the town, but I'm not really into what all the music that's going on in the town. So I'm hearing all this commercial shit on the radio. So what I think is a banger is not a banger to niggas. Niggas is not listening to what's on the radio. So what was the banger that was on the radio that they was bumping and I was like, eh, came home and that was the banger? Nah, nah, don't say it like that, because it's like, if you put this song on, niggas is going to jack it, but niggas don't listen to radio music. Niggas is straight Bluetooth in your phone and niggas want to hear that drill shit, niggas want to hear all that fun shit. So like, what I thought was a hit to niggas is not a hit to niggas. I'm making this music for the streets. Whatever they want to hear is what I got to make for me. So I had to definitely readjust my sound for me. All right, so you out, Kay is still locked up. How often do you all speak? Every day, that's my older brother and we're locked in. So does he have plans to contain music when he come home too? Yeah, he's coming home and you know Kay, if anybody know Kay, he's coming home with bullshit, super rich time and he want to go all the way up. He wanted to have a million bees at the Rikers Island gigs when he come home and he's going bullshit, you know what I'm saying? Okay. He's going to go up, you know what I'm saying? He's definitely playing on rap and this shit. Okay. And he's definitely going to go all the way in, y'all know what I'm saying? I'm about to say y'all got to do the dynamic duo thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what's up. Okay, so people love how you pick your beats. How do you go about picking beats? I don't know. You have a set producer? Yeah, now I got producers. At first I was on something going on YouTube shit, but now I got certain people that hit me up. I'll be working with EP on the beat. Shout out to him. I'll be working with AB Audio, you feel me? Those are my two main go-tos right now. I got a lot of producers hitting me in my email that I'm connecting with. Keep sending them beats, you feel me? I'm listening to them. Is there a producer you heard that you want to work with? No, like that got some five beats. EP was that nigga and I got up with them. So now you're going to work. Okay. Anybody else though? No, not really. Okay, so on your project, still stepping, you said that... Hold on, you said that rappers wouldn't have made it to the industry if you was home. Do you feel like that? I feel like if I had stayed home rather, the standards for music would have been a lot higher. I feel like music is nothing right now. Niggas get in a booth and say anything on a fire beat and it's going to go up, you feel me? I make music though, I'm really better than niggas. When you mention me, you got to mention me with niggas, I really make music, you feel me? So who really makes music? The niggas that's from my era, like my son Tutu, even Sheffanam, you feel me? Niggas that make good music, you know what I'm saying? Niggas that don't just get in the booth and just talk bullshit, you feel me? You talk, you talk your shit when you're in the booth, you talk bullshit, word, word. Alright, so explain the title of the EP, still stepping, what does that mean? We still stepping, true words, we still stepping and that's a fact, this shit is never going to stop for me. And we came back, we had a lot of obstacles, a lot of shit for me, got in the way for me, but we still here, we still stepping man, we forever stepping, that's the motto, you know what I'm saying? So you're going to do a deluxe to that, or you want to push that over one? That's a fact, I'm going to get a deluxe to it soon, we're about to work, we're about to start dropping real crazy if y'all didn't notice what I'm doing, I'm setting everything up, we're about to start dropping videos, all that shit about to start getting real crazy. Alright, a lot of artists, you know like I said, we press the views and things like that, does it bother you that your numbers aren't as high as they used to be? Nah, it just means I got a real call there, I'm going to get there, my music is good, I know it's not white, we're going to get there, somebody's going to hear it, somebody's going to like it, you get what I'm saying? So all I got to do is just keep working hard to keep dropping, a lot of people, main discrepancy with me is consistency, they want me to drop more, so for me I'm trying to work on that, it's a lot going on, for me it's not Jesse, for me please, deal with me, I'm a drop, and every time I drop it's going to be fire, I promise you, but we definitely going to pick up the pace on it. So you admit that you're not consistent? Nah, I'm not, I wouldn't say I'm not consistent though, because I like the way- You're being a boof a lot? Yeah, I'm being a boof a lot, hell yeah, I got a lot of unrelief shit, but I don't like to just give my music out to people and it goes unnoticed, you get what I'm saying, once you just drop it back to back like that, it's like okay, he's just dropping, nah shit it ain't not, when you listen to the music they just see you dropping, dropping, dropping, dropping, dropping, I want y'all to hear what I'm about to say, you feel me? So I'm going to drop this, y'all going to listen to this, and I'm going to give y'all something else, you feel me? Okay, so what does consistency look like to you? It's different now, it's different now, nah, nah, nah, it's different now, game we in now, from back then it's different, back then dropping once a month was acceptable, now it's not, you got to drop, you got to drop, because niggas- I feel like once a month is not bad, if you drop on visuals once a month, you can't do that no more. How often do you think we need to drop? You got to drop, you got to drop, you got to at least give them two to three videos every month to me, the way niggas is moving these days, the things were music now, they're not playing with you, drop that, drop that, I said fly. Now what happens is, I feel like artists make the pressure on them when you post mad trillers. Which is true, but you got to give them something, you got to give them something, but you ain't even shoot the video, you should not be posting on trillers. That's a fact too, it be like after you come from the studio, you make a track, you're like what's your man, this the one, you feel me? Niggas got to go make a triller to this right now, you feel me? That's what you're saying, start going crazy. I admit that, I admit that, I admit that, but you feel me at the same time, you got to understand we got like, we rappers at the end of the day, but at the same time, we ready to have fun with it, we doing shit too, you feel me, this shit going on. But I'ma drop though, definitely, anything from our supporters, if I'm going to change for y'all, I'ma change for y'all. Feel me, I'ma drop. So on your EP, still stepping, what song you feel like best describes you? My intro, my intro is spoken out, everything basically, feel me? Yeah, definitely the intro. So you feel like the intro straight? Yeah. Okay, and do you have any other collabs? I know you got a song with Super Gates that's on the project, do y'all got more music in the talk, or you have other collabs in the work? I got more songs with Gates, all of Piedmont's and Gates, I got some songs in the cut with him too though, I got a lot of other features in the cut too though, a lot I don't want to speak on, but it's coming, y'all going to see me collab with Niggas, I know y'all see me drop the tape, no features, I just feel me want to put something out for my fans, I feel like they want to hear me, you feel me? Yeah. So, and I said that special spot for my son, Gates. Okay, that's yourself, thanks. So definitely more features out on the way, they got to stay tuned to see who it is. For sure, for sure. Okay, and in the song ain't the same, we tap into your emotions a little bit, so what made you be so vulnerable like in that, well in this project in general, I feel like it was real honest and open with your fans? Yeah, yeah, because I feel like I've been going through so long, they really got to figure out who I am, like you get what I'm saying, they want to know like, like, like who Chris been flocking is, I'm not Chris Blakey no more, you feel me? They want to know who this new nigga is, so let me tell you who I am, you feel me? Okay. So I feel like this project was a good like, was a good introduction to my new, you feel me? My new little path I'm about to take you out on. Okay, and what's next for Chris? More music, more money, staying super rich man, you feel me? It's always going to be free K-Flock and free trial, you feel me? Free the unit, word. I'm going to say super rich, so what does a super rich artist have? A super rich artist, like what you mean? Like what makes y'all stand out from everybody else, like to be a super rich artist? Because we really like, we really real about this shit, there's no cap and I rock, like really real about this shit, it's really, we super rich and we acting bad, we not badly acting, you heard, this is what we do, you feel me? This is what we do, like niggas know themselves, niggas know. All right, all right, so tell people where to find you, where to find music? You can find me on Instagram, I could have been flocking her YouTube, super rich cartel music for me, still stepping out now or streaming platform, go stream that. Y'all saw man, we acting bad, I know it's so.