 Deep thanks so much for coming on the show. Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Super excited for the Convo Yeah, a lot of fun talking about CLS sustainable talking about hometown Yeah, yeah, glad to be here getting the whole planet just onboarded with next-gen energy technologies. Yeah It's a no-brainer and It's great because there's already epic developers like you guys like CLS sustainable That have been doing it and that have been onboarding and have been Making people happy the commercial and industrial especially And even residential With their new technologies we're making people happy with those new tech so and keeping earth just in a nice Healthy sustainable regenerative style of prosperity instead of one that Is short-term thinking this now we're long-term thinking which is great. Yeah So this is the second episode of home-down podcast, which I'm super excited about. Yeah, yeah first one was with Andy and It's cool because GCE also and guarantee clean energy and CLS Have had an ongoing partnership now for quite some time like in just serving the transition to clean energy technologies and So now CLS is also coming on board as a dev of home doubt too as that is beginning to roar and take off So I would love to read the bio of deke to give you guys a little bit of a better understanding of How exactly he has been building holistic energy systems and how he's continuing to do so? So he's co-founder and CEO of CLS sustainable a commercial industrial and community solar developer in EPC engineering procurement and construction CLS provides a holistic approach to achieve renewable energy goals for people and organizations They serve including early-stage development engineering procurement construction project finance operations and maintenance Deke was named entrepreneur of the year for the energy industry by the American business awards in 2019 and 2021 Yes, sir It's an awesome Yeah, such a cool word Nice and you guys can find the links in the bio below CLS sustainable comm also dekes LinkedIn profile is down there as well as all the home Dow links Deke let's jump into things by understanding like your journey through energy itself so This this is actually my 20th year in the energy industry So I started back in 2002-2003 in the oil and gas industry. So kind of a complete opposite of where I am today, right? It was more on the finance end Where I was working with a small independent operator here in Dallas, Texas We were drilling for natural gas wells, which at the time we're right on top of right now But which is the Barnett shale at the time? It was the largest natural gas field that was discovered nobody knew how to really tap into it though because it was a tight shale formation and in 2003-2004 A gentleman by the name of George Mitchell with Mitchell energy. He he had there's always been frack technologies But he had come out with this slick water frack where they use a ton of sand and use it as a prop in to hold open The layers of the shale to then release the hydrocarbons, right? at that point in time Devin energy came in acquired Mitchell energy and then a bunch of your larger independence and at that time made a bunch of these Oil and gas firms like your Chesapeake energies your Devin energy ZOG resources. They all moved into the shale plays and Where they're they're naturally rich in hydrocarbons whether it be oil into a natural gas This one specifically was natural gas But what my job was is we would actually raise capital to go out and drill wells in the Barnett shale and I did that for about three or four years And at the time again with all these larger organizations moving in the company. I was with actually got acquired So it was either make that transition or kind of go out on my own and I've always had an entrepreneurial spirit So I said, you know what what the heck? I'll give it a shot and I had opened up my first oil and gas company in 2007 We had acquired some acreage in another shale play which was emerging at the time called the Fayetteville shale in Arkansas And we did some drilling out there and again with with frack technologies back then and Back then you didn't nobody really understood The the negative effects of what fracking was actually doing right I'm sure you've seen it on TV shows or even in movies right the Matt Damon movie where people actually had Fire coming out of their their water faucets right that they're gas coming out of water faucets that they could then light and fire up So, you know seeing that kind of detriment that this point I was I was probably in my lid or mid to like 20s and It You kind of had blinders on right you knew stuff was happening But it wasn't one of those things that was really at the forefront of your mind. It was just How can we exploit the hydrocarbons? How can we pull them out, right? So I did that for a couple of years on my own We were dealing with an operator that was out in Arkansas who ended up actually taking Some of our capital investment that we had we had injected into them and and took off Fortunately for us. We actually acquired the leases beforehand So I was able to take the leases over and by default I became an operator myself and so an operator is just Kind of more of a in a construction term as someone who's overall operating the well drilling the well Organizing everything and I don't have really I didn't have at the time a geological background, right? So we just hired the right types of people and we ended up drilling and operating our own wells for several years We did Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee And then there's obviously a bunch of cyclical up and downs in the oil and gas industry as I'm sure you've heard but Specific to with what we were doing on the capital raising side, right? We were dealing with not only accredited investors, but financial institutions who would then fund these drilling expeditions 2008 happened and with the housing market crashing and then the financial market crashing I Remember and this was me being super super naive at a young age was was telling myself that it probably wasn't going to affect us as much as It's affecting other people right because we're drilling for oil or gas. It's either there. It's not there You know, and it's a safer place I guess you could say with a certainty and predictability that shale plays had for for people to put their money, right? but again not knowing and being really naive about the situation was Everybody was holding on to their money. Nobody wanted to release it at that point in time So I just recently gotten married. We had our we had our daughter, right that we were talking about and My wife was just saying hey, we can't deal with these ups and downs anymore, right? We need something a little bit more level, which which I agreed with and being on the investment side one of the key questions we used to always get was What do you guys have in renewables? right and so my job at the time being in an oil and gas was well You don't want to do renewables, right? We're dealing with fossil fuels and things of that nature And it was it was more at the infancy stages on the renewable sector where we're not a lot of people knew what was going on Anyways, but it helped open my mind and then if you couple that with everything about the oil and gas industry and the pollutants and the gases and everything else that it's releasing into the environment I Knew from more of a morality perspective and an ethical standard is that There's got to be some better ways to approach this whole energy thing, right? And how can we do that and how can we accomplish it and how can we at least play a small part in that transition? So being here in the Dallas-Sport Worth area again, you know a mecca for for the oil and gas industry here in Texas is There weren't a bunch of companies that were doing renewable or solar or wind or anything of that nature But I was I was lucky enough through a lot of due diligence is that I had found a local company that was dealing with the residential market and I've been in sales since I was 16 17 years old So I felt you know if anything I kind of go back and rely on Sales skills and and see what I can do there And so I got connected and I got hired on as a sales professional And what we would do is we would go into people's homes and show them ways that they're able to reduce the consumption in their house But also how they're able to tackle an offset through solar panels right and installing solar on top of their home instead of gaining all their electricity from the utility grid and In and doing that right and again going back to my whole entrepreneurial spirit is there There's I'm always trying to find a better way to do things right and sometimes there aren't sometimes there aren't But in this type of a situation that I was in The company that I was with kind of had a all-in-one package right regardless of what your situation was You're getting this this this and that right and I had approached upper management with hey How about we come in and we actually customize this to the home or because I'm married I have four kids right actually my next-door neighbor who is single lives in the same size home that I'm in right however Our living habits are different. You know he's gone at work all throughout the day hardly ever using electricity My wife is at home. We have one child that's being homeschooled You know the other the other two are are excuse me the two are in school than ones in a daycare So we're using a lot more electricity throughout the day right above and beyond that my comfort levels in my home I'd be different than my neighbors so every living situation was going to be a little bit different so how can we tailor make all of that to the homeowner specific needs and They felt it would be too trying to actually do that So I said you know what I can I can I can do this right yeah, so I had I left there And I started a company With two two friends of mine one that had a construction background one that had a finance background as well And it was a perfect match and we created a company called circle of solar that we founded in in 2014 And that was giving this is my first entree into what a true holistic approach looks like yeah, right? So we went into we would train all of our sales reps to go in and actually give a very good audit That meant you're going in to their attic you seeing what type of insulation levels that they have out there, right? We're taking thermal temperatures of the home we would do everything from Reinsulate their attic, but we would also do barrier type products or radiant barrier that would go on on the rafters of a roof to create a more suitable environment inside the attic space not only for the home and Heat penetration into the house, but also think about HVAC equipment that is actually sitting up there and a Not-so-great environment, right? You have an AC system trying to produce out, you know 50 degrees 60 degree air into your home. However, your ducks in the AC system is sitting in an attic That's 140 degrees right kind of kind of productive if you will so We did all that we brought in the holistic approach even through water heating solution HVAC systems We did high high efficiency systems that were not your typical 1416 seer build a grade models But we were doing 20 plus seer systems in homes where we could see a reduction just on that alone of between 25 30 percent of consumption LED lighting and all that other good stuff. So we did that and we we grew pretty pretty rapidly That's where the two entrepreneur awards came from circle was actually a top energy company in 2019 is wealthy the American business awards and In a three-year period we had a growth rate of over 2200 percent We were featured on ink magazines fastest growing companies in the US ranked 176 And with all this came some notoriety, but also some interest from from private equity firms and investment groups So we actually ended up exiting that company in July last year But throughout this process on the residential side is you know, I thought well this is scalable and not only is it Scalable and in the residential market to take it nationwide, but think about businesses, right and the CNI industry and how many businesses are actually Losing energy that could otherwise be rerouted and reused within their facility, but also think about how they're getting charged for electricity, right and From a business's perspective finances are key, right? It's a number one driver while I make a decision on on making an investment whether it's solar or a new piece of equipment That's going to make their their their facility run more efficiently. So It's like how can we transition this to the CNI sector? So we started doing that and this was prior to us exiting we started doing that about in 2018 2019 and we started to get good reception throughout the DFW market and we Actually started to get a really good reputation as well and then that kind of grew nationwide and so That's how we actually transition circular solar the CLS sustainable as a spin-off and here we are today with CLS sustainable And we're a nationwide developer EPC CLS are our initiative when we first set out was to only handle the EPC perspective which was the engineering the procurement the construction and one of the things that we were finding Doing EPC work for for other developers were a lot of developers weren't developing the project correctly Right, so they would lean on us for a lot more of the development side of the work so we actually took more that on and Now we actually grew into more of a development firm and an EPC firm kind of combined but again it kind of goes with our whole mantra of bringing that holistic approach and so it was one of those other things of how Can we better service our customers and our clients and it's the more stuff that we can bring in-house that we can eliminate You know Broker fees or third-party fees or things of that nature Well, it not only benefits us as an organization, but it also benefits the end user, right? Because now you're getting Same product that that's going to be superior in service, but you're getting it at a lesser rate So it's kind of a win-win-win situation. Yeah So cool. Yeah, so I get long-winded me. I love the trajectory. I love the history I love how when you were sharing like some of these first knocks from the investors That were approaching the oil and natural gas side of things where well, what do you guys have in renewables? Yeah, right. It's so good like because that those knocks are like the opening of the mind to new possibilities for sure And also even like your wife saying like let's have something more stable. Yeah for our kids, right? That was another like a little knock along the right and I love the when when you when you began getting involved in residential solar I Like how you also felt like a knock to a next level, which was well, how do we personalize this? Yes Tailor it to each home as it as the needs of that home ask And that's another great one and then finding all the little optimizations and efficiency So like the sales would go in and do that audit and the audit would cover the areas Where like you said, you wouldn't be trying to blow 60 50 60 degree Fahrenheit cool air in To a home where the HVAC area Would be trying to traverse a hundred and forty Fahrenheit degree zone. So All of that is a It's like the nuggets right on the trail, yeah, and and then the entrepreneurial spirit kicking in and like and and Like really wanting to explore what renewables and next-gen energy technologies were and And then even making an exit like making an exit into CNI and And just seeing like well And it's good being rewarded also with awards because and like getting more private equity Interests and things like that because those are also signs along the way that damn things are going well Yeah, and there's actually a lot of like big money interested in the transition not just making money, but also like there are ESG's and SDGs and these like initiatives that Money is now more often needing to follow For a sustainable prosperous abundant planet in future for generations to come. Yeah There are several indigenous tribes that follow like a seventh generation principle Where they don't make action unless they know seven generations down the line It's going to be beneficial. Oh, well, and so this is what clean energy technologies are about. Yeah So it's really thinking multi-generationally So I love also how you were sharing like there's so many different aspects to the Intergroup to the to the EPC of the CNI and I would like to maybe Have you explained more about what is it like having a CNI project and having CLS fulfill that demand? so Having it having a CNI project and kind of going back to what you're talking about with ESG, right? We're we're seeing that mandate a whole lot more nowadays than what we were seeing even two years ago and Having a CNI project that is looking into renewables Whether it's a mandate or not because we've dealt with some organizations some high-level organizations where They're saying that we're getting mandates from Aborder directors or from investors or from vendors that we're working with that We have to meet these certain standards by let's say 2025 or 2030, right? So we want to be proactive and start getting into it now and we understand that focus, but still at the end of the day Unfortunately, it's more financial driven than anything else, right? Because again, a lot of these organizations they're they're your fortune 100 or 500 a lot of them are publicly traded where They have a fiduciary responsibility to an investment group as well, right? That they have to make those types of wise decisions but from our perspective again taking that and giving The off-taker giving a giving a customer these solutions is we take everything from The initial concept, right where we intake a project and this means we're collecting 12 months worth of Electrical data, right usage consumption not only on their electricity, but also on the natural gas site as well So and who would be an average customer just that's an example an average customer It's really spread all across. I mean it could be school districts, right? It could be municipalities But it could also be Factory it could be a collision care center, you know a good-sized one But I would say our average is going to be one that is consuming roughly or I should for simplicity say have a spend of anywhere between 10 to $20,000 a month in utilities, right? No, don't get me wrong We also service your smaller CNI customers are only spending, you know $5,000 a month and your larger ones that are spending seven figures a month on the utility spend Cool, so all across the board cool average though right there, but we we intake the project first thing we do is an early-stage due diligence and we want to make sure that a from Design side the feasibility to fit enough panels on top is going to make a significant dent in what their consumption is We also want to make sure from a utility perspective that there's no hiccups as far as or hurdles I should say When it comes to Interconnecting the system to the utility we also want to figure out what their net net metering policy is And that plays a significant role, which a lot of developers don't really do their due diligence on As far as how they're treating any type of excess generation that's being put back into the power grid Excuse me some will give you know what we call a one-for-one credit Others give what's called an avoided cost, which is more down to a wholesale rate Which means I might be buying electricity from you at eight cents But anything I send back into the power grid is gonna you're gonna credit me back at three and a half Let's say so there's that delta that you're missing there So that goes into the whole design side and how we're designing and offsetting a system But we go through that early stage we run financials on it We figure out how the customer is looking to procure it whether it's through Any capital expenditures that they have available for it or any type of Finance mechanisms that we can put in place for whether through power purchase agreements energy services agreements things of that nature And that plays a crucial part because obviously we want it to be a win-win for everybody more importantly So for the client and we need to make sure that we're making them cash flow positive from day one, right? But after all that's put together and we package it up really nicely and we present it and go through not only all the Financial benefits, but you know from a sustainability side and more importantly from our side is what you're actually impacting and what you're contributing back To the earth. So there's a really cool couple pages on our on our Presentations that we do that show how many you know trees they're saving from being cut down, you know, how many? Miles of cars from gasoline powered vehicles that we're taking off the road Equivalent wise that the soul solar system is going to produce form. Nice so then We have a let's go through the example. So we have a school muni factory whatnot these bigger community projects that are Applying or they're like deciding to want to explore working together with CLS and Then is CLS Mainly focusing on solar Not necessarily so now wind is still CHP which which energy technologies do you so wind on site for distributed generation on the CNI side is not really that prevalent Okay, right You're gonna see when more on the on the utility set utility side We're looking at solar, but we're also looking at other types of generation systems, right? so if Like grocery chain for instance right who's has a bunch of chillers and coolers and everything throughout their facility That every time they're kicking on and off. There's big draws big amperage that's being pulled And so when they're doing that most utilities are going to charge like kind of like a time of use or Demand fee right depending upon what time of day and what that cost is so a lot of times when we're Investigating a utility bill we can find that those demand charges are sometimes 40 to 50 percent of what their overall bill is So solar is only going to positively affect more the supply side But we have some other generation types whether it's it's energy storage better energy storage or in situations like a factory or Cold storage facility or grocery chain We can integrate combined heat and power solutions Which is CHP solutions and those are natural gas fired generation that can offset and reduce that demand But it also enables Facility to come almost almost island themselves, and I'm sure you've heard the term microgrid, right? So you can kind of somewhat create a microgrid for your facility where now solar CHP energy storage is your main source of Energy so good, and you're only using the utility as a backup backup. Yeah Yeah, great. So that's the vision of working with CLS. Yeah, cool We don't want to be just one-sided and look at look at solar by itself unless we do our investigation We find out right that demand costs are too low where CHP won't make too much of a difference, right? But here in Texas, and I'm sure as people have heard about the country back in February of last year You know the the power grid went down There are a ton of people who who were without electricity for for quite some time. Unfortunately at At the time we saw it circle out, but we had one of our workers who lost electricity for him and his family and ended up putting a generator in his home and Ended up passing in the night because of all the carbon monoxide that was that was being released into his house Just to keep his family warm. So but that those types of scenarios and situations We can't because of the way the infrastructure is it's so old It's outdated that we can't be totally and solely relying upon them, right? This gives us an opportunity to kind of take those matters in our own hands. Yes produce electricity for ourselves Be able to back up Generation for ourselves almost islander ourselves be resilient. Yes, but do it at a cost That's less than what you're actually paying your current utility which is so win-win-win no-brainer for sure Love it. So then I love the conversation about the the micro grid or like the islanding Yeah, it's very interesting. So so what the so what the CNI? Existingly is paying in its monthly utilities will will decrease by 10% or something like that by this transition to solar and CHP or whatever And they're no longer going to be paying that amount correct because they're actually then That's the cost that they're paying into the The principle of or whatnot of the payment for the next gen technologies correct. Yeah So then they're gonna be the owners also of the technologies after a period of maybe 10 20 Something years like that correct. Yeah, so and an outright purchase they're an owner from day one They can sign what's called an O&M or operation of maintenance agreement to have someone like ourselves come in and just Keep up with the monitoring of the system, you know, maintain the system annually or every five years whatever the case is but if they were to opt for let's say a PPA a power purchase agreement or an ESA, which is an energy services agreement where we would Facilitate everything facilitate the financing. We could even own and operate the system We maintain it throughout that ESA period and like you're saying it could be Seven years. It could be 10. It could be 50. It could be as long as 25 years if they wanted it to be But it kind of makes it carefree from them in that perspective, but still even at the end They're still owning their own power, right? They're generating it on-site and after that ESA or PPA Period is up. They holy take over that system cool, and so then yeah, this is I just it's it's also very relaxing just hearing about it really Because I'm just feeling that there's so many industries that are looking for this and Now to have it packaged into a solution that then makes it easily accessible and frictionless as frictionless as possible And to win for them a win for you a win for the planet Is so so good though the only kind of person that's not a win for is the old infrastructures, right and that's okay because There's gonna be plenty of Opportunity for them to sort of let go of the old stuff and to get involved in the new stuff for sure so You know it just reminds me of You know the ones that were screaming for horses when cars were being invented Yeah, so it's it's cool like we can let go of the old and yeah, and usher in the new. Yeah, yeah You always have that little Uncomfortable period right where that transition is being made and I feel like that was a great analogy that you were saying with between the horses and the cars and We're seeing that now in the energy industry between fossil fuels and renewables and there does have to become a period Where you do have to let go of those old methodologies and and start to adapt the new ones and especially when they usher in independence and these micro grids these No, brainers of them not being reliant on an externality and paying more for that externality But instead paying less and owning your own Renewable tech stack. Yep. So so brilliant. This is my this is truly my favorite part of this This next-gen energy technologies movement and especially how This is all Funneling into this like home Dow mechanism. Yeah So let's let's talk about that. So so CLS Coming on board as a developer in the home Dow ecosystem So how did you guys get excited and involved about this and what excites you most about the mechanism itself? Yeah Well, Andy bit or with the GCE whom we've worked with before in the past had approaches with this along with another group that that we're all involved with and At the beginning because I don't have too much knowledge About you know blockchains and dows and things of that nature. I didn't at the time It was a really really interesting concept, right? And it was almost one of those things where it's like man, this this sounds too good to be true type-type deal but as You know Andy and some of our colleagues started explaining a little bit more and kind of just putting it down on paper like This is what it's all looking at my partner Kevin and I looked at each other like man We're we're either gonna be involved in something that's really really really groundbreaking if we decided to move forward with this and And I don't even think groundbreaking is the right word. I'm not even doing it justice, you know what this could be Or we're gonna just kind of stick to our own methodologies and and we're gonna miss out on something big So it's like do we want to jump in and take that risk and and we both had the same response And it was absolutely a hundred percent. And so we're really really excited that that we've been asked to kind of join and help and participate I think what it means from us or from me personally is Having my background in the in the financial industry and how everything is just so regulated, right? and things can get at times political or politically driven in the finance world this kind of Decentralizes all of that right and and now With like smart contracts and everything else. It's like there's these digital imprints that are already there that are proof There's no way around it. Everybody has to be transparent, right? And I think that word transparent is it is it is a great buzzword nowadays But I think people are overusing it, you know what I mean? but this is like the true spirit of transparency and And so everybody who is involved from Investors to the developers to even the end users. They all have that same level of transparency versus We know things that you don't know and we know things that you don't know, right? So that's probably one of the most exciting things about it is that is that that transparency is there for for all to see not only Which used to be the high-level investor groups knew everything, right? And you knew a little bit and they didn't know much now. Everybody's on the same playing field. Yeah, yeah and another one that That I got really excited about was when when we were designing the visual that we've had up in the Previous episode we did with Andy the first one that there's a streamlining of The funding to the developers for EPC. Yeah, and Do you talk also about like your excitement about that? Oh, yeah Yeah, that that as far as the the backend and the execution part that the funding aspect is is something I'm super excited about because now this allows Developers and EPCs that are out there who have been looking for funding or looking for the right funding partners in order to get projects done This kind of streamlines that process for them. It makes the process a lot easier for EPC to bring a client To the Dow so cool. Yeah And and so the end user who we really want to benefit from the system the most both financially and environmentally Gets to accomplish that right as to where today, you know, trying to find a debt stack or Capital stack that's going to finance one of these projects and you have to go through big banks with big fees and big interest and all that other Stuff Everything kind of gets diluted before it gets to the end. Whereas this process kind of mitigates that. Yeah Yeah so good and then How about How are the like existing how will home now How will that help the sort of the existing funnel or pipeline that is besides like the streamlining of funding and I'm just envisioning all of these Perspective clients that are very interested in what CLS Can offer to them and the home Dow sort of like Facilitating like the onboarding of this process with the streamlining funds and stuff. So you just speak to that Yeah, so and and to be quite frank without knowing having limited knowledge I guess on the process from the Dow's perspective Right now if we were to onboard a client to go through a traditional methodology of getting a Power purchase agreement or energy services agreement. There's a pretty long drawn-out process that that's in place right from Gaining any type of credentials that they have when it comes to their credit business credit sometimes personal credit of the business owner Structuring a deal Properly, but then there's also the fees and everything else that are going to be associated with that origination fees and so on and so forth so and again, it's a It's it's the back-end part of that That I think the Dow is going to eliminate Tremendously and make it so much simpler and easier for again all parties involved to go from point A to point B in a shorter period of time Get there a lot quicker, right? And I think what that means for a lot of the EPCs and developers that are out there unless you're a large developer large EPC who have either a Family office or a funding institution that that you've been working with for quite some time It's a lot more difficult for your your smaller your mid-sized ones to Cultivate and create those types of relationships to then be able to offer that to the off-taker, right? mode more importantly to Which I feel and things that we've talked about around the structure is actually giving the opportunity for the EPC and for the developer to Actually partake in the ownership aspect huge Of that facility which no financial institutions right now allow for developers or EPCs to come in and partake in that part That's cool. Yeah, cool so then there's the inclusive stakeholder of the EPC in the development process and there's the Facilitation of all those things that you're listing as variables at the very beginning to sort of Not need in a sense a lot of that into or into simplified down to smart contracts for sure in essence and then to And then to take sort of the power in a sense away from the old and bring it to the I Love how you called it the micro grid aspect which is like the ownership is local Yeah, and it's next-gen. Yeah, and this is so so exciting and We we have had a shorter like first episode we could say with deke But this is a great to even have had the first conversation about the history So crucial sort of all these little nuggets on the way that got us to CLS and Then what CLS is and then also how will be involved and honed out so it's a good solid first episode and we'll We'll be able to revisit this as we continue for sure blossoming this ecosystem We'll be able to revisit for continued episodes and continued Using this as like a magnet to like to attract people from around the world to get involved in this in this ecosystem of next-gen technologies for energy production and for Meeting the needs of people worldwide And then so much cool play is unlocked through that. Oh, absolutely. Yeah percent. Yeah, we're We're super excited about the opportunity where we're really excited that that where we've been asked to be involved in this And I just can't can't wait to see where it takes us all Yeah, and the stories are so good of like deke Devon Kevin's about to be the third episode on the homebound podcast and Like and just what you guys have built out truly like thank you for building this out for dedicating your lives to building out the transition to the next-gen tech and And for joining this mechanism were Thanks for having us. We appreciate it. Thank you for coming on. Thanks to the audience for tuning in. We usually appreciate you all We would love for you guys to check out the links in the bio below You can find the cls sustainable calm link down there. 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