 here with Livestream here at IBC and who are you? My name's Ian McCoy, I'm a senior producer at Livestream. Livestream is a live streaming company that also makes their own hardware and software to help people stream. When did Livestream start? 2007, under a different name, Mogulis. I think we've been Livestream since 2009. And who's the founder? His name is Max Hap, he's still with the company. He's not here right now. Now he's no longer the CEO, but he's still the head of the video product group. He's in charge of making all our hardware and software. When did you start? I started in 2013. And you are the... I'm one of the senior producers, so I take the hardware and software out in the field and produce live streams for large clients. So there's this kind of hardware right here. You do all these cool switch. This is a hardware that goes into your hardware. There's all kinds of hardware. Yeah, so this is actually a proprietary software running on a custom built piece of hardware, which allows customers to create what essentially looks like a TV quality live stream. So you can cut between different cameras. You can add graphics. You can roll in media. And you can stream to a multitude of destinations from our pro systems. And right here, this little 4K logo. Is that real? Yep, so this is our newest model. It's HD 550 4K. It's the first 4K unit we had. It has five 4K capture cards on it. So how does it enter the SDI? You can do HDMI or 6G SDI for 4K recording and streaming. You can put... How many? Five. Five? The bottom one's an output. So five 4K cameras. Correct. At the same time, just with the HDMI cables. Yep. And then you have the five multi-camera set up for 4K live stream. Exactly. Or 4K recording or 4K iMac or anything like that. How much does it cost? So the 4K unit is 10,000 US. That's for the hardware, software, built-in screen, keyboard, mouse and the carry bag. Which is actually... Pretty affordable compared to the competition. Anybody competing in that kind of pricing? Not at that pricing in an all-in-one solution that's so small and portable. You go to some of our competitors. What's your name? I forgot. There's NewTek and Blackmagic. Do they have a 4K solution? They do, but it's this big and you've got... It's not that cheap. It's bigger and more expensive. For sure. And it's not as optimized for streaming. So this is $10,000, five multi-camera 4K, which is perfect for live streaming, the stand-up club. Yep. That's an awesome use right there, right? Exactly. How many people are doing this? How many stand-up clubs have this set up already? I mean, there's all different types of customers. Small venues, there's a lot of sporting leagues using it for press conferences, music, a lot of corporate use. So there's a whole bunch of different types of people using the hardware and software. How many customers do you have? I believe on the platform side, we have over 10,000 paying customers and a bunch more on various free plans of ours. And we've also sold a ton of hardware and software to people that don't even use the platform because this hardware and software can actually stream to any platform. Really? You can go to YouTube Live. Yep, you can go to live stream, Facebook, YouTube Live, Twitter, or your own custom RTMP or Zixie servers as well. You can go to YouTube. And this kind of Zixie, for example, does it go to many different things? What is Zixie? Zixie is just a different streaming protocol, right? Like RTMP is the most popular streaming protocol. Zixie is a newer one that's a little bit lower latency. Not as many people use it as RTMP, but some people still really like it. And it's easy to just choose your angles right here. You can cut with a keyboard. You see them cutting cameras. You can also cut with a mouse. Or you can cut with our control surface. You can also use this to add graphics. I just add a lower third. You can roll in pre-recorded media. There's ISO recordings, chroma key. It's literally a whole TV studio in a box. Can you use AI to automatically choose the best cameras? Not yet. No, that's a popular request and it's something that hopefully we'll work on in the future. I need to have it go a little bit automatically where it kind of goes to the main one, but then still goes to the other ones once in a while, not too often. We don't have that system in here yet. Maybe the text that there's some laugh, if people are laughing. Yeah. It shows the crowd or something. We're working on something like that, but maybe in the future. But you have something smaller over here, which is also cool. What is this? So this is a live streaming camera. It's called the Mevo. Can we grab it one? Oh yeah, well hold on. Let's do the demo first. The camera pairs with an app on your phone and the phone allows you to make it look like you have multiple cameras from one camera. So I tap on me. Now I have a shot of me. I tap on you. Now I have a shot of you. Nice, so the broadcast is just a little zoom in area. I go back to wide. So it's 4K. It's a 4K sensor that outputs an HD. And that's how it works. So even if you take full wide, it's still HD. It's HD streaming app. You can record wide in 4K, but streaming has to be HD. So that alone used to take three cameras. You know, you need a wide shot, a camera on you, a camera on me. I can do all from one camera and this streams to these four platforms, live stream, Facebook, Periscope and YouTube. And it's actually funny that you asked about AI because if I come in the settings here and I turn on face detection, I follow an autopilot and we wait a second. The camera will actually, hold on, let me start intermittently cutting between the various shots that it's found. Yeah, so if you start a little bit on the side. Yep, so you see it cut to me. Yeah, and I'm talking a little bit. And now it'll cut to you. So, yeah. And now you're talking again. So hey, hey, it's just gonna kind of bounce back and forth. So there's a little bit of AI and I don't know if I'd really call it AI. It's awesome. And it's following my face. Yep. Can you try to move a little bit? So we can try to see you. So we can make that smaller? Yep, and you know, you can see that it's moving with me. The blue box is following my face. If we turn, let me turn autopilot off so it stops cutting, but then we'll just pick my face and then you'll see if I, you know, out here, the shot follows around with me. Just by a second. Nice. Yep. Very fast, very fast face tracking. Yeah, so that's pretty much it. How do you develop something like that? You need to have good partners in the sensor, in the camera, in the everything to make hardware work. Yeah, exactly. It was actually our original CEO in current video, head of video products idea. He was watching? Yeah, he was watching the Super Bowl and he realized that it would be very boring if you just had to watch a wide shot the whole time. So you needed to be able to edit between multiple looks. And so he kind of came up with the idea. We got some hardware partners and stuff and... And is it just over wifi? So there's two ways to connect. If you just have the camera, you can compare your phone over wifi or you can connect over Bluetooth and then stream over your data connection. Or if you have our boost connection, you can actually attach over a hardwire internet connection. And how does it connect to the phone? You would have to have the phone on a wifi network that was associated with the same platform. And the quality is pretty good? Yep, you can stream in 720 or 1080 and you can record in up to 4K. And it's not expensive, right? No, the camera by itself is $400, US. And then the boost accessory is an additional 250. And it does Ethernet? Ethernet, it gives you 10 extra hours of battery and gives you a USB port for either data transmission or external audio. You can store in a USB hard drive. No, there is a microSD card for recording storage though. Cool, that's pretty awesome. Yeah, very cool. So what's the future for, this is the direction of the company right there, right? So what Live Stream likes to offer is that we're the only end-to-end streaming provider. So we have a platform and cameras and hardware and software. There are a lot of companies that do one of these things but we're the only company that does all three. So it's just continuing to improve all three facets to give a good end-to-end experience. So this is running an Intel, I'm guessing i7, some kind of Intel. Intel i7 processor. And maybe it's a Windows backend or something. Windows 10 backend. But I'm thinking it would be awesome if you kind of work a little bit further on it, find a solution to make a much smaller solution that still can do multi, four, five, different HD inputs. We have some things in the work for potentially in the future like cloud-based version of the software or something like that. But that's all in development right now, nothing official yet. I totally wonder if the latency can work with the cloud-based multi-camera. We'll find out. We'll see how it happens. We'll see soon. Otherwise I'd like to see something like this but running an ARM chip, you know? Yep. Maybe even built into that thing. You have an HDMI output and five HDMI inputs. Yeah. I'm just kidding. No, it's fine. It's not a secret. We'll see what happens. Yeah, we'll see what happens. Okay, cool. Cool.