 I don't really know actually, we just sort of missed the shoot and thought we'd take another and yeah it didn't pan out very well, yeah. Yeah we sort of went and we messed and we thought oh no we've got a chance, we've got a chance to get out and then no we had no chance and we're just up the top of nothing. So then you get out and you say a few things to each other and then you start pushing. Believe it or not, Craig Robinson did get further, but not much further. We did say the Rekai would be very interesting and it was of course, not only did you get the wins, but you had the braided rivers and a lot of people did get them to strike back. Of course day five here on the Waitaki River and of course someone's either rung up the dam, this is a dam controlled river and said hey guys we want it lower because normally this river's got 400 qmx, I don't think it's got 200. So it's going to be very interesting, very braided and it does take you into the trees. This is what we call a tree growing river.