 We're blowing up like an inn or two. Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one. Yeah, we gonna talk. We're gonna have fun Check it. Check it. Check it. It's Union Coast. It's your boy ECO and I'm here with the lovely amazing official Mr. Mako. What's going on? Not none. You know my dad man another day another way man. We blessed man We hear man. We hitting the building man. It's going down. I got one of my favorite favorite people here today Y'all man. Hey man here repeat. You know, we don't have many repeats cuz we only been doing this a little over a year So but this is a repeat man. My boy DJ Chose is in the house. I ain't that DJ Chose over there. Man, it look like DJ Chose I'm just over here trying to see I'm on Instagram trying to find EXO music man That's what I was saying. That intro was hard. Everybody say that man. Say that. Hey man She, man when I got it, I knew I was like man, this is old. I wouldn't even call her back. Yeah I was so excited about us. I remember when you know something that I'm like, that's the intro She thought I didn't like it or something. I'm like, I have just too nervous to call you back She's talented. She's very talented man. Yeah, and then underrated just she's so dope because it's been some things Say like the big and I'm just giving her roses because the big big Sean were at record BIG she had a record that was very similar to that when she first came out and and he ended up doing that song and it really It was like damn did the video Yeah, this is you like this is what I've seen this happen with my own eyes from her perspective It was like damn, that's crazy. She's been in the business a long time But at the end of the day, man It's a whole lot of people a lot of talent out there man Just you know it's some people out there probably better than Michael and LeBron. They just never went to the NBA Well, see my thing is I got done like that a lot Yeah, the thing is now you got to get in front of it. You got to get in front of you get in front of it When you talented you make enough for everybody, you know, you make a lot like I don't just make music no more For me, I don't need 12 songs a year. Fuck that. I'm trying to I'm gonna do a hundred 200 songs You got the right idea. Yeah, that is exactly right. Ain't that what I be saying you give them away That's the truth. And when you give it away, um, you backdoed and you market the shit out of your shit So you like I think what most musicians missing in 2022 when they drop a record They don't push it with like they harden. So like when I look at boss talk y'all pushing this like, you know What if another podcast come out with boss talk, we're gonna be able to stand on in this If you don't give it your all If somebody come and give it they all and they give it they all better than you you got to sit back and watch them I remember was somebody named DJ shows. Um, his he was from I think it was from Florida Yeah, he spelled his name a little different and when I got my first record This is like air where I go I'm a rep my shit, which is a 2015 He started getting tweets like they was tweeting me, you know between him cuz they were thinking he was me and I remember at one point everybody I guess some of his people was like, are you still in you still in my mind? I'm like but my name been chose since oh nine But if you DJ chose do it better than me, right other than that You know, we're gonna have to figure that and I ain't got no problem with him cuz we end up tweeting and Realizing like a we good, you know, fuck what they talking about. But this game is about who gonna do it better and I Hate thieves too. You feel me but my way to handle a thief It's going all out of everything I do. I love the fact that you said that because when we got into business, you know We're boss talk one-on-one, but there's some other podcasts and some other bloggers out there that are boss talk Mm-hmm, and you know, we got hit up like man, you know, your people hitting us up this this this this this So it's the same thing and we're like Well, we're boss off one-on-one, you know your thing we do our thing and just who do it better It's exactly the same way so we can relate totally to what you were saying exactly We've heard those calls it a lot of it. You weren't even interested in your brand like that until you've seen how we were pushing that thing We made a nigga want to be a part of the movement. That's how hard we have to go Like you want to be a part of this man. That's how hard everybody doing boss business gotta go Exactly, exactly and I just like the fact of how you know, you just don't get tired man You wanted them once man every time look up. It's like dang you give me energy and I see you know How you go hard man. I appreciate that. I just want to go back like and I know we talked a little bit about it before Oh, I was just about to say I was just about to say because I know That two people so it's hard to you know maneuver, but I like to go back into history a lot I know you talked about your mom a little bit and so forth, but I want to know how you were raised You know where you grew up siblings all of that detail So we didn't get to go into it as much last time I grew up in a small town called Brookshire, Texas Um Population used to be like 2,000. That's like 5,000. You know, we kind of expanded now, but Basically, I'm a little country boy. You feel me? But my country got a hood like if you go to Texas or like Louisiana You'll notice like every small town pretty much got a hole in the walls. They got street niggas They got a bass out of the tracks and it got a like not so good, but it ain't rich like nothing rich Damned up until you get to why I stayed now type shit, but um Man, that's why I was raised. I was raised in the trailer house. I used to sleep on the al mattress I'll kind of weird shit, but that's what made me sometimes I post them pictures and be the pictures that go viral But I post the real but that's appreciative Well, people like to see where you come from right know that you know It's possible to come from because people are there right now for sure You know what? I mean it's possible to escape where there are to be a better person most definitely For me is When I think about I was just talking to somebody and we was talking about I was telling him how I'm opening for Kevin Gates on tour and I was like man, I'm kind of worried. I'm kind of scared and it was like man. I Know what you talking about? He a big designer. He a design clothes and he was like I know what you talking about bro. Like I get like that sometime He was like, but you always got to tap into where you was that made you exactly get this far And he was like, I don't know what it is think about it right now. I thought about it in the day. I produced Time for that for Kevin Gates. I was in the studio and It was my first time in a learning records and I was scared I'm just like I got this I got these these white people standing over me like can you make a hit or not? And I'm just sitting there and I'm like the only thing that got me where I need to go was I thought about my air mattress I thought about how small that room was how my air mattress was from wild wild nigga You couldn't walk in that bitch been there and I knew if I don't make a hit today Then I'm gonna be right back in that bitch, right? So I did Three four songs that same day all of them songs went gold or platinum Wow time for that was one man was one of them one. Yeah. Do you remember? What was the other three? Ain't too hard. Okay, and thought I was a breadwinner. Damn. Yeah And it just came to you Um, I tell my boys the production. Yeah, it just comes to you. It's like so the way I see it is it's like a It's like a chemical that go off when you know I You you know you I was in the nicest studio in LA So it didn't work the same moment that bitch and I'm like man. I'm making records, but I'm like man these These records good and then it hit me like These records ain't gonna say I'm saying let you get back to who you is exactly so I had to visualize myself being in them four walls Right here. So I'm like fuck it. I'm in my trailer right now. And that's how I happen Wall-to-wall air mattress. Was it just you he has siblings siblings. I had a brother Well, I got a brother. Okay, so my brother if you listen to my music, um My brother is the street nigga that I always channel my brother a real street nigga. He got shot four times He's older younger. He older. So he ordered me by like three years And everything like I was the little brother that my mama wouldn't let him go out unless he tagged like I had to go with him Right. Mm-hmm. So all my life all of the hood shit I didn't seem was firsthand the first time I ever got shot at I'm in the middle riding bitch in the back seat of Mr. B. She whatever galant whatever the fuck them was. Yeah, and he was we in a mile parking lot They holding a flag that was Crips and the whole car got sprayed. I'm in the middle scared for my life It's how old I'm probably 14 at this time. So this is like when gang bang was real when it was real. So these little I I seen some shit that I really came to talk about on this podcast as a child Well, I know that child. I'm like a teenager You know, I'm saying just on Trying to hang 3 a.m. In the morning and then you wake up and a nigga standing over a nigga some shit Make you not following his footsteps. Yeah, I always tell my brother like he'll blessing like he like to him He think he not a blessing, you know, he really deal with depression a lot, of course But he really he really probably saved me cuz if it wasn't for my brother There's a lot of shit. I would have did just kind of things out. Yeah, like when I seen him get wrong by Niggas he was loyal for it made me understand like that made the kind of niggas. I want to fuck with anyway, so Where was your daddy during all this time? Oh? See my daddy was like a plug that ended up turning into He starts, you know, he starts smoking. Mm-hmm, and I Mean today he'll tell me didn't but I mean, I'm just I love This what I know, you know, I'm saying like I'm in Christmas Christmas, I know with my bike gone, you know, I've been sitting under the tree. I'll goddamn December and Christmas day you get home It's gone from Christmas dinner at your granny house. Ain't no bike ain't no PlayStation in my mama crying like what the fuck You know I'm saying so, you know the car gone That's so like I didn't seen all that shit and they can't tell me that's cuz a pack went missing now. That's cuz How did that affect you as a child growing up though? Like looking towards your dad cuz your dad supposed to be like the head of the household the leader You know the man you supposed to look up to as a kid, right? Man, I see it's crazy. I saw all of the good in my daddy like my brother saw all of the bad I saw all of the good so my daddy was a kind of nigga to be like don't put your hands on a woman But she get out of line choke that bitch and I was like damn pops But when my mama got out of line, he would just show choking shaker and she'd be scared But I ain't never seen my daddy like standing over my mama just so to me that was respect I'm like damn my mama just put hands on you and all you gonna do is shake her like But that's respectful to me and it made me understand like don't put your hands on a woman You know regardless of who he was every night every day we got out of school and he was there You know, he went to jail. He was doing three years every every other three years, you know what I'm saying, but When when he was at home He was cooking, you know, I'm saying he was cleaning My mama loved him. He was more like a nigga who he would have a job when he could he wouldn't have a job He was a fellow. He was a real street nigga, but you're the type of person that see the good in people I do but my daddy told me how to like I See the bad But I see the good like I'm gonna respect you for your good and I'm gonna remember your bad But I'm not gonna bring that shit up. Okay. I ain't throwing it nobody face. Yeah. Yeah, I Had a double a on here and he produced for NBA young boy. Yeah, I had a tablet. Yeah. Yeah, so How was it for you working with NBA young boy? Um man, I Was working with him when he was very very young. So I had his first hit like First the song that everybody know info. So at the time It's not this same young boy. Okay, I'm like the I'm the person that was early on like pretty much anybody I work with is early because I Ain't like no hype beast niggas like I ain't from the chase a nigga They think they too big to do my music or to work with me to use my beat. I'm the nigga that I'm trying to make you too big to want to use a nigga beat You feel me and I would hope that just bring us doing a lot of work So I was the nigga that was there first with no smoke. Yeah, but to be the beat to be first That was so much more likely first to be first though is something exciting because you're a trendset at that point, right? Right, that's like to this day. Um, when anybody Got something to say Like I always get comparisons about Drake and like my partners produced for Drake and my partners produced for You know beyond say and crazy shit So I'm always thrown in producer conversations when they bring me up They be like man any good shows just ain't doing big shit like us though or like it'll be girls arguing like Well chose ain't doing that for Drake or be I'm saying I be like bitch I did NBA young boy first hit Star angle just hop on Drake trying I'm in front of this shit. Yeah, y'all niggas gotta go knock on the door and please please use my beat I'm the nigga. That's like you see it. You use my beat I'm gonna show you what it's gonna do. And That's that's what I pride myself on. I don't pride myself on being a nigga who Wearing the new design I pride myself on being a nigga who put on some designer before niggas knew about it Mm-hmm, and now they selling that shit for $1,200. You feel me don't really tell NBA young boy is designer. Yeah, I mean Fredo bang is designer. Yeah Megan is stallion is designer now But do these people remember or what do people because what you're saying it almost like what we were talking about earlier That like in the beginning of the game we had you but then people be like oh y'all and interviewed DJ Chose is because it haven't done their research and really went back and look to see he was on here Right same thing with you and doing people early out People might not realize that that was you or that you know that you even did a song for them I'm not giving you the credit for it. Yeah, I don't think nobody do like I'm not one to even You got to know to know with me It's because I'm really really rich. You feel me when I say that I mean like I'm I'm fine You feel me? So yeah, it'd be like I ain't a nigga who's trying to Like I only want to take no credit away from these artists. These artists are great artists They changed my life. You feel me as much as I changed theirs correct So with me I ain't finna be the nigga everywhere. You see me um Oh, I did this and I did this and if it wouldn't be this without me I wouldn't be who I am without child, you know, I'm humble enough to tell y'all that y'all might not tell me the same thing But fuck y'all if you don't you feel me? But for me nigga, thank all you niggas for using my beats How did that whole situation even come to be you know far as you making it with him man Fredo um Fredo's just a good nigga like he DM me We got in the DM. I was a little scared to work with him I had everybody saying man. Don't work with Fredo. Why dangerous or it's very dangerous. Well at it shit To today, it's everything is dangerous So I'm not one of the niggas that's trying to be dangerous no more. I had my dangerous You know, I sacrificed my life for this shit that I'm on I'm telling y'all was I was offered to go to a studio in in California and I'm like nah I'm good like like people was trying to give me to come do an interview at the studio And it wasn't a bad thing. It's just the reputation that it holds and me being in another city It's like I gotta know that it's you know, everything I could have called in some things that made it happen But it's like I'm gonna go through that tonight. Yeah, not for him. You just got to be careful how you move Am I right like that's that's what it is. Like The thing is when I actually got to Fredo, I realized That bro heart good, you know, I'm saying it's just You know, you got certain instances of Rumors every every artist got these rumors behind them not even rumors all these niggas are staying over a nigga I ain't been around one pussy rapper. That's why my life is different. Like I be around niggas and be like Y'all niggas got it easy. I'll work with who Every nigga I'll work with then stood over a nigga been to jail You know, I'm saying and I ain't I know it because when you around them, it's a different It's a different energy. You feel me they even battling with they self so When you around a nigga and you could tell like they don't they don't want to get in no more trouble Yeah, they willing to die today if you play Yeah, don't push my butt nigga. You gonna get it. Come on man. So But as far as it being dangerous, it's shit very dangerous. You feel me, but I Don't give a like when it come to me in my like I told you when you love shit You go that extra mile, right? And I try to do it as safe as I can but some of the shit I've been done I ain't gonna lie. I ain't always been safe Let me ask you something because you you speak about the hits and the early hits and the the way that you've been able to really scale monetarily, you know How did you know how to conduct your business because I see so many young dudes come through here that really? They got in deals bad situations to where they weren't able to capitalize on the assets Right, you know, I don't know how to how the business money part correct. How did you know that? How did you how did you understand that so early on? um For me, I had a great lawyer name Leslie Cross gotta have a great. How did you find him man? Somebody turn me on to him. Okay, and I had a great, you know, this nigga probably never think I give him his flowers But I gotta give him today Me and my manager my ex manager week. We separated. Go ahead me. We separated like I'm gonna say two years ago three years ago but man when I say this nigga unselfishly taught me the game and I Feel like when you my age or when you do what I do You can't pay a nigga to be real because every nigga wants to be needed and they feel like if if you don't need them no more then then Then they they useless. So I love one of niggas selfishly Unselfishly gives me the game. He gave me the game. It ain't like I didn't need them. You feel me? We just we hit a point where we both I don't know what made us go left, but it was like a disagreement, but other than that Man the nigga gave me the game. I stood on business. He stood on business We made a lot of money every one of my managers my ex manager my current manager the manager before that all of them Got money all of them got nice houses subdivisions. You feel me? We broke bread But when it come to these young niggas, you got to find your old nigga that ain't They ain't scared to to understand that they meant to be in your life for five years It might not be a lifetime. You feel me? Like you can't take 20% from me forever. Yeah, I'm just a nigga who I Thought I hit a certain point. I realized like I if it's certain things that My older manager don't want to do that I feel like it's necessary for me because I'm also living a dangerous life. So if you get to telling me a Every beat you sell I want this I'm gonna get that to you till I realize a I didn't been to 20 sessions Well, all these niggas got sticks and I'm in that bitch by myself. I need some goddamn security Can we take that out of your bread? Because if I keep taking out of my bread, but I don't think I think most young niggas never Really understand it. So you gotta watch what you sign, but all my deals with these managers be handshakes I don't do like when it come to that I don't really do no more paperwork even with labels or now all my deals with these labels I've been if y'all niggas don't want to shake on the fucking like that's all we can do with shake because I'm done Being buying to a contract. I'm too I get it I got a question So, you know how right now in the industry is like female. I want to say females running everything, right? So, but I've had some females who've been on here and you know dealing with men in the industry whether it be producers or Labels or or just other artists right working with them and so forth A lot of them say it's hard because some of them tend to want to not just work But work in other ways trying to be with them trying to be trying to fuck them exactly, right? So That's what you trying to say A lot of a lot of women I find this very often. Yeah, we hear a lot. What do you think about that? um, I Think it's true, but I also think It's reverse for me No matter what they got to say like with me I've always tend to work with female artists that become territorial so like I Don't really want to speak much on it But anytime I'm working with a girl artist once we do one song one hit It's like if I try to go over here and work with somebody. It's like You can't work with that bitch. I'll be like He's like, you know my girl, you know I'm saying but it'll later leads to shit like I probably ain't work with a girl artist who ain't got well I'm gonna say probably ain't because it's a couple of them that stand on business But it ain't too many girl artists That if I'm really involved in a career Don't get drunk and send me some crazy shit. You feel me? Really? Yeah, so I can't really and I'm not talking, you know This ain't fire Who me I become more of a boss Um, I don't temper with I don't tell them with the goods know right you feel me like I'm trying to do business now but the younger me like I think the moment I think my The moment I serious stuff And I knew like I want to be a better Producer it was right at Megan. I would just for the ass you that it was right at me when I met Megan it was like I All this this special I'm gonna keep my dick in my pain. Oh, I'm gonna try to like you know But I ain't saying it like I how hard was it It was You know what I'm saying I ain't saying she wanted to fuck with me and I'm just saying like For any nigga working with Megan. It's gonna be hard to be a business studio with that woman and not be attracted to her Yeah, right so I Personally just took it up on myself like you know what I'm gonna stand on business in here And I'm gonna do business like because she she also used to tell me about you know people who would do her come out I like that. So I was every female been through it But I think they respect you more when you handle it in a more professional way And that's what I did But I ain't gonna cap though like not with her But anybody after that and most of the girls after that that I did that with They grew to like in me More that that's actually like a turn on the girls when you don't don't when you're a boss Like you gotta think have any girls ain't never seen this shit. I'm doing you feel me. I'm really boom 60,000 dollar pub chick. Yeah, you're not trying to get in their pants. So it makes them want you even more Yeah, that turned into you would have to eat to you at the stake when we go Oh, shit So, you know, that ain't really I I think it's flipped around. I think that's cap I think a lot of these women That sound good to you in the studio with a nigger who right now Maybe you don't want no rapper because you didn't see some some some real money now But you know, let's not act like if you was in that bitch with A different echelon of a guy you wouldn't be trying to come on to him if he was interested in your passion So it goes both ways it goes both ways because we've seen some come on here who shows us texts Of people above them who'd be like man, if you want this you need to do this if we ain't doing it I've seen that. I've seen them some strong aggressor stuff in there Up there for that ain't my style. I ain't gonna lie I let me be quiet, but that ain't my style. I'm actually in a better place like I got Shit, I got somebody I love so fuck How do you Because you said you got somebody you love how does she feel about you know, these women who say, you know Who be hitting on you should say I mean, she had a deal with it for a little while. I took up through the you know what I'm saying, but um Hey every great woman must go through a Um How do I mean, how do you how did you know she was genuine? How do you know being a person a millionaire a man with a lot of money a lot of statue a boss? How do you know how do you know when somebody's genuine they trying to hide that anyway? You know, how do you pick that out? How did you know that the one that you have right now was genuine? I'm gonna tell you this this go for any woman I've ever Thought was genuine some of them don't be but my True assessment is But I take you on five dates And every one of them we're gonna get High end steaks. You feel me top of the line seafood. I'm doing everything you want me to do By that six seven date If them two don't come out with Oh, baby. I got it. Oh, baby. I'm gonna plan it or like if it ain't no Effort in that woman I started understanding that that woman my liability. She ain't really she ain't really sliding for me. You feel me so You know them the kind of women that if I spent a long time in them relationships If I would if I was to go three years. I beat and took care of that woman. I beat and got me like I beat and told like you ain't gotta pay for nothing. You feel me but by the end of that time I realized like You know most women secretive with their finances Don't even look I already knew he looking over here I gotta tell you Let me tell you although women are secretive with their finances, let me tell you If push come to shove and you need it. We're there for you. Okay. Let me let me finish what I was gonna say Let me finish what I was gonna say Most women secretive with their finances but My problem with a secretive woman is If I give you three years if you fuck with a nigga like me for three years with no bills And on that third year you ain't say it up 75,000 We gotta break up Exactly. I like that. I like that. That's very that's very true. I can kill you I feel that you know, we stack it so just for emergency purposes Yeah, because I can't lie with mine gonna drop out when necessary if it's something we need to do Yeah, I ain't tripping. That's that's that's the way it go. Hey man It's either you my girlfriend or my broke friend I'll tell you I'll tell you right now you my girl But if you my broke friend, I'ma take you down up and through the You feel me if you my girlfriend then you you holding your way like me So You don't have any kids yet. No, no kids. So what you're shooting that bitch up? I was about to say so When When are you gonna have some kids? It's on it's on the way. I've been trying, you know, I've been really really you want kids Yeah, okay. I ain't a lot of You know, I think my past uh You know, I was out here running. I was like uh, so you might have some kids out there and don't know I ain't got no kids. They would have they would have they would have cried wolf already All these money Shit, they were they've been knocking at that dough. Tell me about norman north. It seems to be something different. You're a motherfucker, boy Tell me I mean because I listen to some of it man dope man It seemed like a serious side of you to be honest with you also some country feel, you know, I mean It's something different. Oh, it's country. Yeah, tell me tell me tell me about it Just explain to me what how did you go to that place? Is it something that you always thought about doing or just And I've been listening to country music since I was a baby listening to the Bluebell home at ice cream commercial, you know That she had me as a young attire, you know Growing up where I grew up. We always had like white boys that We were listening to a music in the locker room and they were listening to we some headbusters. That's right. That's right You know, when you hear the right country song, you get to realize I'm like, oh, this shit ain't bad You know big green check the Jason. I didn't that shit fire. Yeah. Yeah, so there there is ruck There's rucka. I'll let So what happened was when my mama died Um, I had kept listening to your mama I wish R. Kelly they just did the R. Kelly scan. I'm like, man, I don't know if I should be jamming this shit But I would break down and cry after the after our DJs. I'm on the freeways and just tears I wish I was this right when they stand nigga ban them. Yeah, I'm like nigga. That's all I got. It's two songs You came back Kelly right now. I know that's right. You feel me so Then mama got old because I'm like my mama. Yeah, you know you talking about you appreciating your mama I wish related to me So one day I'm like, man, I'm gonna play it. I wish out And I hear this one song called Five minutes five more minutes by this dude named Scotty McCree And he talking about time rolls time rolls by the clock don't stop I wish I had a few more a few more drops of the good stuff the good times But all they just keep on flying I don't I can't even quote the whole song but man the song Is that one is the one talking about heaven also? He talked about a lot of shit in the song, but he he's talking about five moments with His girl five moments with his grandpa like everybody that I think I know something to him. There you go. So When I hit his song I broke down I listened to that for a month And then some say man, just go listen to country. I go listen. I find more country music That resonate for you know it. I'm six months in you not listening to no rap So Between me and y'all the only reason y'all got thick Was because I listened to country for so long I had to get all of the hate out of my heart because before that I was writing so much street shit You know, it was street shit. I'm I'm just dishing it. I'm selling all the street shit. I'm right and I realized oh I love country once I got through a country was like Every girl's used to DM me from pv like man, we want some old torque shit and I would be like Girl that shit ain't doing that because I'm like watching everybody else make torque songs down through that Man after I got through with that country. I was like, whoo I'm happy than a bitch. Let's do some torque music So I do that And then some say man No, no, I had to I recorded a country album. It's my first ever country album when I dropped it the album um When I dropped the album The album ended up doing like half a million streams under another name The account i'm owned got a thousand followers like nobody knew who the fuck I was Nobody knew nothing about me. So personally norman north Was an experiment That I realized is the future for me. Wow That's the fucking feel like, you know, I air any guy. I want to be bang bang shoot him up I want to I want to go down as an og. I want to be boozy badass not me Not me when I get out this bitch. I'm finna be dares rucker I'm finna be dares with uh With a straight tone though because when I'm in Nashville I don't Talk like them. I just left apple I was at apple in nashville. I got like a country record that came up did amazing While i'm in there some people love me because i'm authentic. They was like man We just love that, you know, when most black people come in here They put down country Like man, we like that shoot you who you is we know You know, we like y'all They but they not saying like they not being racist. They like we we we i'm like you like we talk like you, you know We only talk country when we got to because we don't want to be So they like we in there shooting the shit you feel me a good time So I realized i'm like man Because at first I was if you notice my country I used to put on like button ups I'll put on country stuff because i'm from the country. I know how to dress you too I used to go to trail rides all that shit. So When I realized man, don't people don't give a fuck. I put on my biggest video. I got a cuba link on I'm like, man, fuck that The shine and the bitches yeah I love the fact that you did it because I remember our last interview you talk about how Positivity positivity in your music you talk about the name chose came, you know, your mom when she talked about, you know A higher purpose when you told her that, you know, you are Going to serve a higher purpose even she's talking about, you know, just the rap and so forth So I love the fact that you did that because I can see where you're going with it I mean, you know what's crazy though. What the goal was to make sure that One of one of these days the next kid that wants to be a star Doesn't have to look at somebody young dumb and reckless They'll be able to see me and say If they if they got like that kind of background they could be like Yeah, I could I can rap But if I want to Shit, I could do country too. You feel me? That's what I I won't I might not be the biggest Of of me, but I might be the first inspiration like when I look at um There's a lot of people that took that That inspiration role you feel me? um I'm trying to think of who but I would imagine for somebody like Zero Is that to somebody you feel me like zero never got that? Like zero big of course, but zero never got that I want to say ride wave moment like the Texas he he he got that big and we talking about during this area, of course but I feel like he inspired so many people along the way and he heals so many people or he resonated with so many people that A lot of them artists that came out. Maybe you know, we don't we'll never know who but I forget who stayed sampling zero or doing zero songs, but Somebody was inspired by him. You know, he definitely that's what I want to be like if I can't do nothing else T-Rail was on there and he said it was he said that he was the first one that did that singing style And my comments went crazy Yeah, my name is zero. No, no With zero zero they kept saying no, it wasn't T-Rail. It was zero It wasn't T-Rail. It was something's even got more Got more an R&B than that then It was Stanley going in like it wasn't who else did they say mate? It was a bunch of them a bunch They started naming people that I wasn't even nearby thinking about they went back and and they started saying no It wasn't him. It was this further. He did what he's supposed to do. I'm gonna do some crazy shit. Hey, I'm the first nigga to do Club music, bitch This shit niggas Shit yin yin don't make a hole in wall music. I do club music Club the club nigga not the the chicken shack nigga where they telling barbecue place and I make club music So so do you still talk to uh, uh, megan the salion and and and do y'all y'all working together again or You want the truth? Yeah, I want the truth. I don't know how this boss talk, babe uh The truth is I think I think when everything I want to say like two years ago when a lot of shit happened. Mm-hmm I feel like she just separated herself from the world and I think within that I was just one of them people who I don't even think it's like her. I think it's just like I ain't I got so many middle men to get to megan that it be like Man, I love you. I just can't do all of that like because I'm a real day one. So I just figured like when you respond to my DMs and we'll talk Pmc He didn't want to go through nobody to get to nobody. He just didn't feel like it was just a way to go because that's my suss If you see what I'm saying, though, like that's what he would talk like if you played him like that Yeah, she ain't playing. She just I just think you know No, I'm saying if he felt like it was gonna be a play like that like you saying he wasn't about even Right. I can't I just can't um, I think you know Me and her go too far back for for me to have to go through A lot of niggas or shit like that. It just be it's weird, you know, but I don't The the one thing about I always tell niggas like when you really family It don't matter how long you go without talking like family is family and when you see each other Like if we can't look each other in the eye and cry and be happy to see each other Yeah, I don't know if we family so real for me Like if I got a nigga I ain't talked to in a while like my partner and they be like nigga, you don't fuck with me Nigga fuck you you bitch. Nigga you changed. I'll be like, oh, you ain't family. You never was So for me when we get to talking about Megan, I'm always staying on my same business, which is Hey, we family We'll talk when we talk because I ain't finished change just because we talked I ain't sitting in bad I ain't going uh I ain't on other side. I ain't on no side. He fed me And with all that being said that just means shit I'm who I am and if you still fuck with me we who we are all we need to do is get a lot of communication And when that start happening It's gonna be like it never happened. Yeah, because you just dropped the project Yeah, I was just thinking about it. I think it was little kiki and somebody else was on there Oh, yeah, mr. Lee produced it with and and uh, it was a song on there that they all got on I seen as though that was a dope move for the culture And so I just didn't work with nobody No, it seemed like she had like you said kind of disconnected herself from everything I think she's working on herself too. I think everybody else in a sense, you know I mean like we all go through whatever we go through and we work on ourselves to be better people is what I would think And then you get in this game so young That you're growing in this game people forget about that part that you are actually growing up in this game You know, I mean you grew up in this game So it's a part of it, bro. I mean people gonna make some mistakes too See you're right. You're right. Um I mean, you're totally right. I I feel like she had to do what she You know I'm saying what she what she had to do Which is you go through so much of that like you got to stand her mama died with my mama died Yeah, yeah Not even to even take it to the next level like her mother was like a mother to me She used to her mama used to tell me you can't dress so I was like I'm gonna style you You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah straight up. She was like, uh Man, I'm a I'm a manager, you know making gonna be like Pimp see and you gonna be like Kanye And I used to like right before her mom passed she was about to be my manager Like we was in the middle of Working at that because I ain't had no manager at the time So with me and her we locked in I just think You know as time goes by man, it's just so many people who be around That really you know, they might oh, yeah, you know, I'm fighting for you and it'd be like man I don't like when it come to Them voices sometimes you really can't trust niggas in 2022 because you never know who got your Best interest and I'm one of the niggas who like That nigga right there that nigga right there that could say what they want to you feel me But I got my I'm really like The boss, you feel me? I'm not I don't need a yes man. I don't need to know man. All I need is niggas to understand. Hey, I got the vision followed You feel me? Yeah, and I think You know for everybody being full controller they stuff They got to get at that point where I got the vision Follow me. You feel me? How boy West has spoke on something. He said that uh He was saying that how people he pretty much alluded to people being opportunities You know, you don't know who to trust because once you own people just looking at you as an opportunity Right, you know, I'm saying when you get you you sign to a deal everybody you rockin with you Whether it be Gucci or whoever he would at the time. It's like It's kind of it's a trip to trust right pretty much not a game crazy. Um, I would definitely say I definitely can't trust nobody. I didn't see it all this year. I didn't see it all like when I say I didn't see it all I'm talking about Might not have been betrayed so many times this year So Even some people close to you Man, come on man. I'm talking about laying that bed with you You feel me ladies in that bed You feel me when something like that happened How hard is it for you to trust somebody again to let somebody else in? Um See, I think I'm crossing that battle like I'm like not Especially in the same way like if you if I got cross instance, I'd have been crossed by somebody I truly thought numerously, I hadn't been crossed by women I really thought Fuck with me, you know, and I didn't see it at all. I didn't been recorded I didn't be I'm talking about I didn't slay the bitch. You feel me? She she got it whenever she leaked it. I'm like, man, bitch drop it already You feel me get it over you try to hold over your head get it over it like I'm calm go play She wants some money or something. I don't know what you want. You feel me? I really don't know She won't control but I didn't tell her do what you got to do You know what I'm saying? Get it over with. I ain't the same the next What you gotta do Okay, because With a person with money because you know how Sean cotton came on here and say you don't really know a person until they get Money But then being a person that have money how how hard is it to Come from nothing to something and still stay humble man To me it's not because when you come from where I came from It's like You be so scared of going back. So it's hard to really just be At your mind at your body. I'm near something rich. I'm like it's hard to really carry that aura because I would be so ashamed to go back to that trailer house if I if I if I jumped all the way out there like that You feel me? So I be in my comfort zone, which is I ain't changed. I ain't stayed the same what I did is adapted my nigga But did I go all the way over here? No, am I all the way over here still? No I still it's niggas from my hood. I could I'm stealing pictures without still focused on one of y'all niggas kill me in my hood It'll be a church It'll be at a kids giveaway. It won't be shooting dice with you niggas. It won't be that way It won't be in the trap. It won't be I ain't fucked. I ain't going through the trap my best friend you got shot Three times everybody in trap house got shot. Wow You ain't gonna catch me over there. I love them niggas though. I always tell the nigga I ain't bro. I fuck with you. I ain't going over there I don't even know why you back over there, but he he wanted them niggas. He just gonna trap you feel me trap, but It's rich niggas that be like Man, go on get the lamb truck. You got it or go go go get your house in Miami. You got it No, nigga nigga, I like nigga. I like I like I like this four thousand dollar mortgage. I got nigga Don't feel it in texas man stand up I like my bills being paid and and and it don't I don't even shake me It don't do nothing feel like it happened. You know, this is living life. They could just live it So I'm I'm in my bag being very smart. I already can tell I can sense that in you Sauce Walker you you and sauce do some work together. I like sauce Because that he this is something he just did that uh had that rodney old I'm an old school nigga that rodney old joe coolie beat came in that hole And I was like damn, you know, like I pump that oh, we were going to Arkansas to go to tv You know, I'm smart though that nigga smart. I like that nigga man He been he been knocking into his own little tree him it in his bag But walk won't walk won't do no records with me. Why? uh Every time we talk he'd be like Because you know walk real into his artistry like he he gonna He don't really want me to come in and get no ideas. He like nigga I want to work with you nigga, but you gotta do it his way. Yeah, he like nigga. I can't do it like I can't You ain't finna come in here and he did it. You know what I'm saying? And to me it's like shit You don't need me You want to come do it. Yeah, well, I I want to like I'm like a nr where the people know it like I'm a producer, but I'm really Lot of niggas don't know this um I don't even know if I'm supposed to say this, but I'm one of the people that Got done in tolliver or help with done tolliver getting signed to his first little situation. You feel me and it was like when I think about what I was giving for the trend like for the for the the plug I did it was like Not even pennies like to to to to these billions and millions of dollars being made like it was it was it was terrible But you know when you're young, you don't know you just connecting dots. You're not realizing. Hey, it's That's you're supposed to have a title for that. Niggas really supposed to be No, you didn't get that. They're supposed to be salary for that shit I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah I brought a label Megan and stallion before they ever They was like, ah, that ain't it and I'm telling Megan like Megan. Don't go sign over there with the deal that you Currently can't stand right now. I'm like man. Wait. I got a deal for you But they didn't move fast enough. So I can't be mad at Megan for what she had to do. You feel me and granted I'm not in that shit like I Man, what what they did in paper? That's what they did. You feel me? But before that, I'm the nigga really really walking around calling every label. Hey, I got the hottest Female artist since whoever bitch. She here now. Yeah Nobody believe me. Nobody believe me Now look at them. Yeah, you feel me state of listen now look at them. I remember when Man this shit can go on. I'm leaving We got time today this boss talk But I'm gonna hang on let's If a nigga got a song And they don't know what's wrong with it I'm gonna come in and be like, hey, if a nigga had a freestyle Like I wish I could sit in the studio with money man because I'll be like money man, bro. That's my guy right there You need a hook you think you can make him better. No, he already Didn't say that's my one of my favorite Like it's certain niggas with me man, I just I ain't let no nigga play with these dudes man money man that guy I'm not playing with money man. He one of my favorite artists when I'm in the gym I listen to money man. I'm listening to money man. Yeah, make a nigga go My problem with money man is his music so good So good I've never heard a nigga so good That all I want to do is listen to you rap But then when I'm done I don't remember because I'm versus so long And I need a hook So I really wish I could sit with money man to be like, hey money man This part right there that you just said Nigga, let's just fly that four more times and that's a hook nigga. We got a hook people gonna remember that part I didn't think about that Everything Nigga make it a hook and money man I fuck with money man, right? Like we be texting this shit, but money man. Do not I know you rap good Throw one of them sneaky ass. This is it. You can say I need a hook. I ain't gonna ever do it My nephew played that nigga so much I had to feel him like he kept every time he come up I'm like, what the hell is nigga every time to be just the whole first album sound like the All the mixtapes sound like the the songs just coming right after another they sound like that Bar for boy, just everything had me motivated like, hey yo, you're I'll follow money man. I'm proud Okay, go ahead Hot ass new artist coming up. Who do you think that is hot as new artists coming up somebody he likes and that's Norman North Yeah, I'm gonna ask you something about this. You was on that legend. Look kiki How was that processing that with him being that you know that you remember I asked you about the old and the new And and I was happy when I seen you on that was a dope legend was a dope project, bro I just loved the way he brought everybody together on that project How did you work with him and and just kind of how did you feel about the whole project? man, look kiki like He's like that person that we talk every week. Oh, yeah, that's my boy. He called me today. He just called me right He's like, look bro. You gonna be at that Kevin Gates concert. I'm like, yeah. Oh, I'm coming. I gotta come see this shit, nigga I'm coming. Look bro. I'm coming to see you. He coming. Yeah. He's coming So I went when it Houston. It's all damn we can drive down No, I want him to come in studio because we already did in here. She won a vacation, nigga No, we got a week go everywhere. Hell. I'm tired She's gonna be up tomorrow. When is it tomorrow? I got he got one tomorrow. Listen tomorrow If I got how to get some credentials, I'm gonna fuck with y'all I don't go nowhere. Yeah I ain't you know I just got on it. So I ain't uh You feel me? I'm one of the niggas I'm with you with it. Whatever, but I'm telling you right now I'm with you regardless and I'm lazy as hell because I do a lot. No, no Can he be doing all the editing and everything? Why you tell all my business every time we got a whole thing off We got a lot of people to tell But you do got a lot of people in there do they see Well, we have a lot of people that do all this stuff. I'm not gonna say they don't we do have a lot of people We have a team. I don't trust people first of all. Yeah I feel like the sauce has to be a certain way and with me not doing it It would be something and and my people know that too. You want to know something? What's that? I'm about to fuck you up Bro right here shoot my videos, but I Know no cow. That's the truth. He can edit his ass off. Exactly. But it's like, you know exactly what you want exactly That's exactly what it is crazy I used to nobody noticed. I used to shoot all megan videos. Okay I was her when when nobody would shoot her videos and she had the money I was the nigga with the camera shooting her shit, right? Like all she got a video shot at my house her first while song is shot at my house. Damn, that's dope. So What was the name of that song? Stanley freestyle Okay, so me and her used to sit on the floor Because I edit that bitch up and she'd be like I don't like how my face look come on Charles. I'm gonna come over there So we'll just sit on the floor all day and edit videos. That's dope, boy You can't make this up real people like I would just say most bosses hand if you not hands on you really can't Say you're a boss because a motherfucker give you what they want to give you a lot of times I like it But I always feel like you have to start out that way because when you actually hire somebody and you If you show them what you want you have to Be able to know how to do it just in case they ever leave you don't want to be stuck and be like I don't know what to do now Right, you know what I mean? I gotta go back to the little kiki the legend the situation with that. How what how was it like the process Okay, so me and kiki got this thing when he finishes. Um, he always call me. It's like, let go You know, I need you And I be like, what's up, man? But now I understand it. I need that young nigga shit and I be like she Got you. He'd be and he'd be like I want that young nigga shit that make me feel a way though. Like I used to try to like The first song I ever did with kiki. It was me be king and kiki What was the name of that song? I forgot you don't forget. He did so many songs this nigga hell right here But it was some shit be king did so, you know, we did it I liked it and then I realized like Man, you know what kiki is an outlet for me to get off my pain Damn, because I got pain in me. Yeah. Yeah. It's just that I don't be want to dwell in it and I could do pain better than a lot of niggas. So I was like, you know what Maybe I can get my pain off with kiki sales right now When me and kiki get in we do pain records together. So we did this we most I think the last one car Baby mama calling my phone. She's like what I forgot the name of it, but I got a million songs but um We do pain records and we make them we do young pain records. So He loved me though. He loved when you do pain records because you know, they always say, um, you put All of the anger all of the pain in the music and therapy Do you actually feel better after? You let all that pain go? Hell, yeah It really it really to me. It's a relief. Um A lot of my pain music just be out and saw and then in my verse I get to get off on how bad the women did Like my pain be my pain ain't regular pain though. It's rich pain. You feel me a lot of these niggas talking about like Street pain. I'm talking rich pain. I'm talking about what is rich pain. He's mainly females Females money motherfuckers recording you motherfuckers. I always need some money motherfuckers need the favor Motherfuckers don't never call you nothing genuine. Nothing genuine. Every call is It's like Van like every call I get these days be like, uh I'ma really shoot the shit with you for a little bit because I need you to think we we fucking with you And then somewhere in there is gonna be Some bullshit like do you be this on the phone sitting waiting for that part? Oh, yeah I was on a hey, bro. You gonna say your car The fuck I need my car You know what I'm saying? Nick wants you to really give it to him anyway. Come on, man. I didn't I didn't hear it at all Is that your mama in your necklace? Yes, my mama It's pretty. Yeah. What um, thank you. I'll thank you man. I lost my mom I need to give me I'm going to get that picture From down in the country now I have I'll be I'll be able to do my piece Because remember I've been asking for that picture man. She died a long time ago And it's just one picture. I wanted her best friend and losing on the guy that I'm like I got to get that picture You got to get it. Yeah. She already got it for me. She's waiting on me. I'll probably go get it this weekend How long ago? Uh, my mom died 96. So Long time ago. Yeah, it's always gonna feel like yesterday. Oh, yeah, I'll never you'll never ever feel that empty spot That's what I feel like this always got to remember the good times. That's what I do with my dad I always remember because I was a tomboy So I used to hang do everything with him the boys never did And I just remember all the times we went fishing we went hunting. We did all of that stuff together. Oh lord What you got going on here? Yeah She tried to act like she hardcore And just chilling uh working in the flower bed my nigger. It's all good. Let me ask you a question What you doing? Uh, what you mean? She's still 21 Can I take care of her man? Some more niggas don't know how to take care of her. I'm a country nigger, man I'm from East Texas man. I'm a country as hell man. I don't care of you Yeah, we take care of each other and and and we made agreement. It's a covenant bond before god So that's really it. You got to put god first, bro. People play but it's really A thing where if you don't put god first, bro, you're gonna be in last place Go ahead. I'm learning it. No, it's true I'm learning it and I ain't really like right now. I'm not the church heavy guy, but I'm real heavy on God I'm real heavy on like Trying to walk I'm learning one thing I I bet like my story started but today I've been telling myself like it's reward and discipline I ain't talking about that old shit the white folks do do tools. I ain't talking about punishment but discipline it's reward and um Just moving correctly And and having a goal and actually working for it. You feel me? A lot of people they be running up Manifesting shit manifests manifestation manifests I'm one of them niggers who I believe in manifesting, but I also believe a lot of people pre-destined, right? And when you pre-destined that mean This was already put here for you. You just got to walk in it You just got to go in it and a lot of people when they they use that manifestation word To stay what they at They looking for that bitch to fall and they ain't exactly I ain't manifesting it. I'm doing that But I also know this for me. So nigga, I gotta get up and go get it I ain't gonna wait on it if that shit said I'm supposed to have it next year Then guess what everything I'm supposed to go through to get that next year. I'm gonna do it You feel me like I know right now. I'm supposed to be uh I'm supposed to be on tour. I'm supposed to be moving correctly and I know that because um Right before tour I went through so much betrayal And it showed me a when you on this tour you got to move a little better because You see how these people that you thought you loved you crossing the shit out of you. So when you outside Keep your eyes on the prize get the bag get home. You know, I'm rolling in their bag this whole tour one thing I always always we always say about um Trials and tribulations when a devil coming at you in so hard and so many different ways Something big is about to happen. Don't fall for that. Okie-dokie. Just wait and it's gonna come. Yeah No, I thank you for coming on the show man. It's always a blessing man What do you expect, you know for getting with Kevin Gates this time, you know around doing this tour You know, what do you what do you expect to get from this? Man, um Man, what's already on the other side you feel magic I get through and finish which is um, most success you feel me More hits, you know, whether that's mind whether that's with him whether that's what anybody else you feel me, um I've always knew for sure the thing. I always got to be me But I know normie nor going to be successful because I'm walking the god's path right there and and and and that's really that's you that's that's where you want to be right Right, that's where I want to be and I just got delivered. Yeah. Yeah, I just got delivered from slaying and dick That's damn boy, man. So the dick the the the dj chose uh thick uh versus normie nor It's yeah, like like what's up with that? So people you know, what's up with that? You know, hey man, I can't I can't make this of ours to people like um if you if you wake up in the morning and You know, you got some people who like ice coffee. High coffee some some people like both well dj chose is High coffee normie north is ice coffee. You feel me? I'm the same Thing it's just neither one of them got out of character One of them just if I tell you I'm in love tasting this woman Do you think I wasn't gonna eat a pussy and And slap on the ass when I see it like the country boys is doing what I'm saying. They just not putting their music That's why I don't tip. I don't play like that over here. Yeah, you feel me? This this is for who is for you feel me? I want the kids to be able to listen to this over here But this right here is who I am Um, unapologetically, you feel me both of them are unapologetically unapologetically And I ain't the same to neither one. That's why like black people See my shit all the people who listen to my rap and they like you do country I'm standing on buildings like yeah, that's me But you know country music say a whole bunch of stuff that when you listen to it Let me tell you when I came here to united states before that. I know we used to listen to country I want to start really listening to country I'm like Did they just say what I think they just said They they have a lot of stuff in there that you never heard that country Personally, you know Yeah, I've heard a lot. I don't hear a lot of country that you know, it's a lot of sorrow and pain and yeah You get drunk, you know I'm saying I've heard that I've heard that yeah, but see like To to second what she's saying like Sam. I'm body like a back row. This is a twerk song You feel me? It's just clever and that's why I like country It made me have to write on a different level like clever words over here We say though that has been over whatever like that's so direct over here Nobody over here could stand A chance with me. You feel me because I get to use my pen over here anybody over here that think they Living with me could never even walk over. It's only a few people who do hip-hop who need to play over here You feel me? That's why you got nearly you feel me. It's a it's Drake probably do a country record, but everybody on ain't on Drake level. You feel me? I feel like I'm one of the ones I want to I want to I want to ask about this. I want to sit back Let's do it. I just want to know what that was all about. You know Just explain the breakdown to me. Um It was the truth it was It was me thinking I was in this point where I finally had enough money to uh Do some different shit. I was I was just starting to have and I don't know. I was just finally getting out my body and ready to let the world know that I ain't broke so I started doing flashbacks and Everybody said they started from the bottom show me the bottom then that's a real statement. I wanted everybody to Show me where y'all came from because I'm not just saying I'm from the bottom I really came from the bottom. You feel me and I'm really up top. I'm not just saying I'm up top I can show y'all like it's some shit It's some rappers. They be compare Man, I'm niggas don't want to see my house. I ain't showed it. I can't show it if I show it It's gonna be niggas. It's like damn They're gonna be hurt. You feel me my shit ain't this bitch 2022, you know, that bitch just got built This bitch ain't no more fucking this bitch 5,000 square foot. You feel me wood float my nigga walked in my house early and said Hey, this a mansion He he being big houses. You feel me? Yeah When a nigga that I fuck would tell me that it made me be like damn I know this nigga was just in Miami this nigga didn't call it house all kind of weird shit That nigga is fucking my shit. All right. I'm doing something. It's crazy because you you basically little just in little You just in that big old house man You think you little you you be uh a lot of people you got servants you like uh king joffin jopher run this over Maybe he moved in everybody all his family he had relatives and everybody Who the hell all over there a big fine woman? Oh, okay. You and the big fine woman. I'm a big fine woman So what what what do you think about like like age town the music where it's at right now? Of compared to where it was, you know, it's a new day Right. What do you how do you feel about where it's at right now because I ask people that about Dallas all the time Then I'm gonna ask you what's what I gotta ask you this too. I gotta put you right before you get off here I gotta put a versus up against who you and somebody else in houston. I gotta do that right It has to be in houston could it be just a houston thing for me I officially um, I don't think houston music I ain't gonna you know what niggas be trying to oh how much how's it changed only thing that did change is the way people consume it If people were still consuming the sound us niggas would be running that bitch in the ground Even I would love to make That kind of music that shit's so easy even y'all gotta do slow something down put a good hook on it That shit was easy But by the time I wanted to get in the game You'll start going away, you know Curco Bang was like really the last one to slip one of them eight-time songs. Yeah, you know niggas been doing it, but I kind of feel like when the when the most popular nigga in the world touch your shit and then leave it It's pretty much done. Like when you think about uh drake Drake damn to got off on houston. Drake from houston now Like if you ask me a nigga be like what drake from houston in toronto nigga. He's from here What third four four fifth world all you need to get him where you want to put a nigga top park nigga drake from houston nigga, you know that and That's just because of the music, you know the influence I think Now houston realizing like Yo, we got to keep advancing you feel me like what you want us to do man. Um The world, you know motherfuckers ain't still making funk You feel me Who went in a versus between you and I know you about to say it saucewalk Saucewalk I was gonna say 20 songs. I know it wasn't saucewalk. No, why walk man. Why walk? I don't like 20 songs y'all are 10 or whatever however y'all do it who went in in in a versus Because you had all the bells and whistles you already said a while ago You would want to make his this way that way because you got that diddy thing going He wants to be his own artistic way. You tell me who would win 20 songs Yeah How you say dj chose in spanish But but that's You think you can take him out How would you do it, you know, that's how I do it. I asked a little kiki about him in a slim thug I asked who else did I is I got uh esg with him and uh somebody else But you and you and saucewalk You gotta you gotta ask me how would he beat me? And ain't that in an arrogant way I want to just know if you can give me three songs that you compare me to then i'ma be like I'ma tell you how but the only way I could really truly be the saucewalker because he got a lot of catalog Is I gotta use my production. Yeah, he's gonna be Yeah, you gonna dish yours Your body work against his body. That's why it ain't i'ma let me just let me get let me get a disclaimer go ahead I don't think If you matching me up with my production saucewalker It ain't gonna be fair And I don't mean that in a cocky way. It's just I got songs this That's just you you damn know like I got songs as big I got songs as bigger than America, you know what i'm saying when you can look at that shit That's seven times platinum. That's bigger than America. I got faster fears ruggers like damn it boy So but then ain't there ain't no air because i'm just saying match me With somebody who do what I do not like a straight-up rapper because walk rap and he do street rap So if you want to match me with somebody match me with kelly, you feel me like Damn that that's how I'm in houston with this. I'm not Nobody in houston that can match up to you. Damn. She took it there Ain't nobody in houston. That's what i'm asking Boy, that's a hell of a boy. I'm gonna tell you I'll be jabbing facebook be demanding me and b king That's another one, but But you don't think you can it's you got too much you you you do too much if we talk about you do too much Yeah, we're talking production production is one thing you do a lot. That's why I said sauce walk If we doing straight music, you see what i'm saying? That's that's the whole reason why i'm saying song I mean, I think if you match b king and sauce walker, that's a match You feel me like that And that I only could say that because they both do the same thing at the you know, they both Make they both real like they rap like to me. I don't pride off being a rap But you do it you can rap you would you do it? I do but if you put me in the verses and take away The real accolades I got i'm it's like a handicap. It's like making it a fight like this You can't take my plaits all the way from me. I don't want to do the verses I feel you but i'm just talking about your songs against their songs. I don't care that ain't that I don't you produced it you whatever Well, then nobody can beat me I love it But I don't want to disrespect nobody but that's what i'm saying like because I I really fuck will walk I fuck with b king. I fuck with everybody, but If you talking about like I just don't know who could even try to take That hard or a shit away from me and say oh No, I kid you we don't let it because it's like no like It depends like if we yeah, if we did it at the gallery in houston But if we took that same verses to Atlanta You know I'm saying and I get to use them songs I produced they're gonna be like Hey, them them two songs I did was cute But we know all of this shit that this nigga doing for the first 10 records, you know when I get to pulling out these gates You know like I'm gonna I got 10 I got Five gold gates records. I got two Gold mba young boy records me and freddo damn nothing to go twice golden platinum like records with dirt records with Megan like it's just not No, and that ain't no arrogance. It's just saying it ain't a competition It ain't even supposed to be on the same grade and that's not if it was straight rap Walk would beat me I would say probably I mean depending on if you like hood music or clubs taking 20 songs 20 songs You see Of neither one of them as a rapper. You feel me of nobody as a rapper. I stand on my catalog. My catalog is good I guess it just depends on Whose fans are there? So when you get to talking at houston shit The separation of this is a peer comparison of 20 songs without my production Would be me and b king because we both got the club records But me and walk it just depends on how many bitches in the crowd if that bitch full of bitches I won Now if it's full of bitches who get pimped on and some street niggas walk don't beat me every day You feel me? I gotta ask you something else. Have you Did bun be bringing any trail burgers to houston at all? I seen him in new york Eating burgers with jayda kiss or somebody like what are you damn burgers at? Hey, what a damn burgers. I ain't got no burger yet. And I don't You know, hold on hold on hold on Bun be bringing some burgers down my nigga bun. Don't follow me on instagram no more He don't follow you. I feel the way. Yeah, I seen that other that all Damn and bun bun my nigga. You feel me? But he followed jayda kiss Hey bun. Yeah, I put it out that way. Who we following? Who we following? Hey bun. We're gonna find out who we following bun. I love you. Come on my nigga But damn, bud. Hey, bud. Thank you and shake over here. You know a niggas pimpsie fan to the heart niggas Thank you and shake over here and come see me. But like I say, family always family But I'm trying to say what happened, but we used to follow each other nigga I had to unfollow you because I realized you were following me But bun now come on back. No man. That light in these streets, nigga. Come on now See how many time platinum How did you feel about the verses they did in Atlanta because you mentioned doing one in Atlanta versus Houston I felt so Type a type of way in that versus how how how did you feel about it Atlanta versus Houston? No, no, no the verses with UGK versus a ball a ball. I know you probably didn't watch it. Oh, uh, I didn't watch it Look, you keep it for that was my highlight. I didn't watch it, but I think I see some highlights Uh, what I will say is No, I didn't watch it. Why did what was the problem with it? It wasn't in Houston. It wasn't in Texas. That bothered me too Mess with me back man. All right, and then bobo come back and tell me, oh, man I know you wanted to be in Texas. Yeah, damn right. I did nigga. We love down there hard. So I didn't like They didn't get anywhere in the world. Everybody in the crowd was like this He told me they had a phone nigga. They had a phone all the time That should have been in Houston at the rocket stating Let me get this out for the state Who else would you like to work with? Because you're doing yeah, you're doing you're doing kevin gates right now. Who else would you like to work with? I'm like all the rest of the niggas. I want to work. I want to work with dragan. Beyoncé too. But It's gonna happen. Yeah, it's gonna. I really feel like Beyoncé bit me on thick, but that's neither here nor there Beyoncé got a song called thick and I'm not gonna lie to you I've never heard Beyoncé use a beat with 808s that sound like mine So, um, whoever damn whoever whoever orchestrated that I just gotta tell y'all That she was real cute. It sounded like DJ chose But I understand y'all be a I'm that nigga y'all gotta box out But everybody know about me nigga. I'm still gonna come get a layup nigga I'm sneak one of them bitches and I'm real sneaky But Beyoncé. Hey man next time you want the real thing fuck with me Can you talk about I heard new additions say the same thing when she used the love on top. They like they should she should have came out of I remember that so people say the size Man when you hit a beat everybody keep I remember when thick came out everybody was like damn that shit just now like Nigga, did you did you an art? I'm like nah, I ain't do nothing You know, but I'm like shit. I did an or somebody heard my shit and just made another version But I know how when you deal with um a lot of female artists compared to men artists when you produce for them Your beats and stuff be different for each Why? um Man, I be just trying to I can channel artists I'm not like one of the niggas who only can do what I do like I can do it I can still like make me While making what you fuck with you feel me So I ain't one of them niggas one size fit all now if I'm a go fuck with lizzo That bitch gonna sound the the music gonna sound real sassy, but it's still gonna sound like dj shows Because you have some of these females that rap hard like a dude. Yeah So that's the reason why I was asking I don't want to hear no woman Do like that kind of music because it's like I don't you know, you gotta it's still like growth there for women. You feel me just like women don't want to hear niggas Do too much of what they do you feel me if a niggas was talking about I'll make her pay all of my bills. I'll make her do like y'all gonna be like we don't like this nigga You feel me so Women got they were but when it comes to really Standing over a nigga and fighting a nigga and beating the nigga up It's like man, that can only come from a nigga who really did it I don't want to hear a girl say that because it's like you just rapping now and to me That's just real cute But it's gonna be a little girl that believe you and y'all gonna turn all the girls into niggas I always ask this question. I'm gonna let you get out of here. Um, you, um houston Native We got Dallas. I asked all the p. I asked Dallas people to ask houston people It seemed like a two separate worlds. It is you see what I'm saying. Why do you think that is and um How do you feel about Dallas music? I feel like and it's so fucked up to say I feel like most niggas when they from Dallas when they get on You could have knew them niggas, but them niggas do not fuck with you when they get up Like and that ain't like no shade and they might feel the same way about houston niggas, but I can honestly say When most niggas from Dallas up If we was fraternizing and I hit them during eight prime, I'd be like, I don't need a verse niggas always hit me back 15 15k this will you send the money? Hey, what the fuck? When you needed a beat last week nigga, I sent that bitch to you You know what I'm saying then you get around a nigga like I get around niggas that There's way bigger than them that generally fuck with me and they give me a verse for them. Hey, here you go, bro Yeah, you know, I'm saying so it just be crazy how The game worked you feel me, but houston could probably be like that, but I can honestly say anybody I really had a true relationship Hence somebody like Megan. She was all the way up I Tried to give a hundred k for that verse And she agreed to a hundred k or she didn't the middleman that was middleman. Yeah like a hundred And then I guess when he tried to bring her to hunt it So he said man, if you don't take that shit back to chose Damn Because she's because she come for you. She fuck with that why I could never like I can never play with me Like I love making with all my heart. Wow. She loved me too, man Well, you just made me in love really Man you tell Yeah, because they gonna yeah balls talk 101 Sends up much love. We know she was the first female rapper out of Texas to go. Yeah. Yeah, she that one See that one. So and she dope and it's hard to get around her Um, she got star power man. She got it. She's gonna be all right. Yeah, she's gonna be all right Hell, I wish I was in her position Top three producers of all time Dead or alive dead or alive whoever was producing every dry rule record because dry rule my favorite You said that last time Top number one You can't get around dry rule man dry rule was drake But that's an easy hit on the secondly, uh I'ma say 40 Because 40 make out a Drake shit that I love but dang that's good And there's a lot of niggas that's gonna be mad because I love all y'all niggas, but at the end of the day, man, uh I'ma say it's his nigga name. Uncle Jaime from houston. Okay. Uncle Jaime used to make all of them Uh, I used to make all of them h-time records and uncle Jaime crazy But I don't really I'ma say he top three And he number three for me is because when you walk in the club in houston, uncle Jaime ain't got on no shirt You feel me? He got like this weird ass young nigga. How could he? He'd be going in If this beat plate, he he's getting it. He's loving it. You know, I'll say a little a little older But uncle Jaime and that bitch move it. I hope he see this because he don't never get his no credit But uncle Jaime crazy no mother fucker. He taught me how to work a trident when I was like 14 Shout out uncle Jaime man. That's dope. That was a dope shout out I know that boy watching boss talk 101 what a boss is talking about show everybody watching boss talk now, man But man, thank you so much for coming on the show man We love you bro. Oh promise and you promise me when you get ready to do another run whenever three months from now Two months and now next week, nigga. You call me and say e. I'm better come back through Dallas Come back and tell you because I want you to always know that you home here, nigga. We love you, bro So I'ma tell you how my my deliverance going. I told you I ain't slanging no more dick Hey man, check it man. It's been another great segment of boss talk 101 what a boss is talking and we out